I imagine Nintendo would probably have a little cradle that the joy con sits in when you’re using it as a mouse to make it feel more like a traditional mouse.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. It can absolutely be real, but I think there's plenty of reason for it to be all fake. Anyone remember the Pokémon Stars rumor that just so happened to start the day after Sun and Moon released? People seemed to think that since all reporting kept saying the same thing, it must be real. Meanwhile, all reporters were using the same exact single source, or pointing to other reports that came from that original source. It turns out that nothing was true and nothing even came out of that in October's massive Pokémon leak. All I'm saying is that just because many are repeating the same rumors or supposed leaks, that never makes it 100% true.
Same here. I thought it must be super weird to hold the joy con sideways like that. But now that I've tested it, it actually makes sense and feels fine.
But mice would be terrible for video games. Imagine playing a game like Call of Halo with a mouse. Impossible! (Sorry, I lowered my IQ to see what a console player would say.)
If this is true, it would be great and so clever - as someone who has been a computer gamer all his life and recently switched to consoles, it would make controlling things much easier for me, especially since there are genres of games that I love - such as strategy, sims, rts - which have terrible controls on consoles
They're getting damn close to it though especially if this is true with the mouse support they're going to have Xbox and PlayStation create something similar watch because that's the ultimate control the mouse
Strange that, if this does end up being true, that means nintendo created that patent for scroll wheel bumpers just to scrap it and then end up adapting mouse functionality into the joycons, a feature that would've paired perfectly with scroll wheel bumpers.
Wait so they did actually create it, or was it only a suggestion? If they did, why don't they use something that clearly does work and does separate them from other controllers?
Either that, or "center" to re-center the cursor. Perhaps there will be a mouse attachment that the sensor is programmed to recognize to activate the cursor.
I’m surprised noone has mentioned two specific letters when talking about Switch 2. VR. It’s going to be powerful enough to run Quest3 level VR games, so couldn’t these sensors connect to a Controller Grip, to enhance motion/finger tracking for VR games?
I really hope. I always thought they wasted VR on the only console that comes with "VR Ready" controllers by default and is basically a tablet. Now they're making another console with motion sensors and detatchable controllers, they better not waste the opportunity again. (And before you remind me about Labo. No. I'm talking about real VR.)
Nintendo isn't a VR type of company. They will 100% focus on AR rather than hiding players inside of face-hugging screens. And thank God for that. Let Nintendo team up with Japanese companies TDK and QD Laser to launch a retinal projection wearable that scans the game's visuals onto the player's retinas with no intermediary screen. This could be used to enhance games on the TV at home, but then it could also be used to completely replace the handheld screen. A retinal projector or virtual retinal display creates the image on the retina that then appears as if floating somewhere in front of the user. They can have the virtual screen appear affixed to the handheld like a screenless slate with a touch interface. This is just the tip of the iceberg. VRD systems also don't cause eye fatigue or headaches like screens near your face do.
@@amjiva Except they have dipped their toes into it several times. Virtual Boy, 3DS, Labo, Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey. I'm a VR developer and I'd love to finally develop for a Nintendo console.
@@amjiva OMG that would be so sick! If you're talking like this, then that implies that retinal projection is already a reality (pun not intended), right?!
Nintendo Life also gave the idea that the attachment for the wrist straps could send the light on the optical reader upwards towards the shoulder buttons, essentially making it behave like a Wii Remote that can identify where the TV is and project its cursor on it (similar to how some smart tvs have the controller act like a pointer cursor). If true, and if the Switch 2 is also capable of casting to other screens, we could have a combination of Switch, Wii, Wii U and DS gimmicks, all in one console plus the mouse!
This would make Switch 2 the ultimate Nintendo console. NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Wii, Wii U, Switch, Switch 2, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, DS, and 3DS games all on one console, alongside SNES mouse games and light gun games.
The only problem I see with this idea is that, as an alternative control scheme, it seems to be very cumbersome to set up and circumstancial compared to the other 3 main modes of the current Switch. There's a reason most keyboards and mice are placed stationary on a desk or table most of the time.
After watching this, I tried it with my Joycons and I must say that it actually was pretty smooth but a little painful with the size of them. But with the bigger size, it'll definitely be more comfortable than the current ones. Could totally see it working out that way and would be excited to see how they would take advantage of it.
I gave Andre the following suggestion but i doubt hell read so many messages: "Why didnt you used a gyro aiming compatible switch game. Set the neutral position of the joycon in mouse mode. Then see how fast can you move the joycon on the surface to control aiming. This is more simple yet gives a good idea how practical is to drag a joycon to aim." If you have on of those gyro aiming games you can try & report back how it feels.
The trigger and bumpers are longer on the switch 2 joy con it seems, making it easier to use as mouse buttons. This seems very likely, and I'd be disappointed if this didn't happen.
This is actually a cool idea. I'm imagining a new game that's a 2D platformer-puzzle game where you use one joy-con to control a character and the other as a cursor. You must use both to solve cool and creative puzzles in each bite-sized level. It'd also be usefull for games like Mario Maker 3 or maybe even a Tomodachi Life sequel?
@@Medachod The slings, pullstars, bubles & the 2 player coop mode werent strictly aiming. But my answer hinted as various wii games of which galaxies were popular examples. Lost in Shadow fitws galxykid suggestion perfectly.
If those images are actual leaks, I hope the bumper or "trigger" buttons are touch sensitive so they can function as a mouse wheel. It would also allow more functionality in normal play like on the fly menu navigation or camera control options.
The only problem I can see with this is how tiny the Joycon is compared to an actual mouse, I can see hand cramps aplenty from extended use of this feature without some kind of extra pieces.
This makes even more sense after remembering that the SNES service on NSO was found to have support for SNES Mouse games!! I wouldn't be surprised if we saw an SNES Mouse for the Switch and Switch 2 sometime after the Switch 2 releases
The more and more I thought of this idea and how it would apply to video games, a hilarious idea had just clicked in my head. If both of the Joy-Cons have mouse controls... Dual Mice controls. It's so bizarre, I can't even tell if it's an awesome idea or an awful idea!
If I'm being honest, that feels so much like a Nintendo idea. To make a controller that can act like a computer mouse. Obviously, the dream idea is to make a new Mario Paint with that concept but I think other games that work best on PC could benefit from it, like FPS games for instance.
We know how Nintendo sits on concepts for years and years and then resurfaces them when we least expect it. Did anyone really anticipate the resurrection of the SNES Mouse as primary gimmick rofl
What an uncomfortable mouse... I hope there's an attachment to make it more functional, because using a thin, unbalanced joycon on its side as a mouse would get very uncomfortable, very fast.
Honestly mouse controls on the switch would be a game changer. It would give us access to touch controls without needing a stylus or very accurate touch screen (meaning DS games could be added to NSO). It would also make games that play better on keyboard and mouse play better on switch too (such as FPS, Moba, RTS, etc). This has a lot of potential for certain game genres
first interesting thing about the Switch 2 for me, so i'm not gonna hype myself with this yet, but if this is what it is, then please: this mouse feature + Super Mario Maker 3 with Mario Wonder psychics + 100-man reinstated into the game, would be amazing.
I'm becoming more and more hyped for the mouse sensor on joy-cons. As this video points out, it actually feels totally fine ergonomically using a joy-con like a mouse, and it's such a perfect fit for the joy-con controllers one-handed form-factor. For the first time, PC RTS games would be fully playable on console without feeling "off" with too slow controls. You could use the control stick as a scrolling wheel too. Mouse aiming will probably become the new "gyro-aiming" among Switch gamers. :)
This would be amazing, the potential of a mouse can play so many third party games, games like Genshin Impact would make much more sense, Zenless Zone Zero and the rest like minded games, Marvel Rivals, Roblox (As because of the console versions aren't as fun than on PC) but Switch 2 having a mouse feature would be perfect, or even Sim 4 and many other games! So much potential, and like the Wii U (and probably switch, I never tried) can connect a usb keyboard to it, I used to do that with the Wii U, the Switch can practically play like a PC (obviously not as powerful as high end pc's) with a connected keyboard and having the Joy-con as a mouse, I really hope the mouse feature is true, but I mean it's okay if it's not, just can't wait till the actual reveal of the Switch 2, whenever it is.
Wow! I can't believe I didn't notice this before... a few months ago there was a leak where someone saw the Switch 2 and said that one of the buttons was also used as a scroll wheel like a mouse, and that really ties in with the current leak!!!
Imagine a Luigi’s Mansion game with point & click adventure elements or Animal Crossing with elements of 3D modeling software, video editing, or drawing software, the mouse could be a game changer.
I really need to see it in practice. I'm not typically around a desk when I play games, nor do I want to carry around a soft mouse pad. For me I think it'll all depend on how practical it will be just to use the side of your leg or sofa.
I hope that means that we can also connect every regular mouse to the switch, becaue well.. it's a nice idea but it's a mouse for baby hands lol. They could also give us some attachments for the jocons that allow better ergonomics and buttons that are bigger and easier to press
What a stupid gimmick, 1. You need a table to use it, you lose access to most of the buttons, it looks even more uncomfortable to use than the joy cons. Feels over the top for a couple of niche games that would use it. Why not just release a separate Nintendo mouse for games that might need it
Wow not gonna lie this is actually a genius feature. It bridges the gap between controller and mouse & keyboard A bunch of controller unfriendly games could be ported nicely too
If PC players want to use a mouse like that on the Switch and the succesor so badly, then just connect your Bluetooth mouse to the Switch? What's the big deal?
a mouse is cool but what about the other controller? a keyboard works because there's so many keys your left hand can hit (wasd, shift for run, ctrl for crouch, Q, E, and like the first 5 numbers) it would be basically impossible to use the mouse to aim, left control stick to move, and other other buttons other than the L and ZL ones.
I've been told that the concept of using a mouse in one hand and a controller in the other is apparently not new, somehow. As long as the mouse lets you left and right click, it should technically be able to work.
So the setup is left joycon in hand normal orientation & right joycon in mouse mode. Left joycon has: 4 face buttons, left thumbstick click, l, zl, - & gyro/accelerometer. Right joycon has: optical sensor (basically right thumbstick), r, zr & 4 face buttons. Also you can basically lift the mouse & shake it to reload. It can work.
02:06 @Andre: Do you remember one of the first switch 2 leaks which was some factory shells of the joycon & switch 2 tablet? Well those shells showed both joycons (left & right). Both had the same exact top layout with the hole for the supposed optical sensor in both parts. What you should have done in this video was to see how it feels to hold both joycon in the right hand. Since majority of population is right and multiplayer on !ouse mode will need a right handed user to hold a left joycon.
If the feature is an integral part of the switch 2, then it means we won't see a switch 2 lite... Unless the switch 2 also support regular usb / Bluetooth mice. But in this case, why add the laser sensor to the joycon, increasing its production cost... The other detail I noticed is the lack of rubber feet in the leaked image of the joycon. Even if you buy the cheapest mouse at the dollar store, it will have some kind of feet underneath it to help it slide better. Why wouldn't the joycon have some ? Don't get me wrong: I like the idea, but I don't think Nintendo will go this route.
Because then where's the point of selling joy cons for a succesor console when you can just buy them to use with your PC? Whilist, it's pointless and renders them as your tradition PC mouse.
is it possible that the sensor could be there to somehow help keep the gyro from drifting by detecting your hand? don't get me wrong i'm loving the mouse idea (even though i can't think of many uses for it outside of FPS or RTS games) but now i can't help but wonder what else it could be intended for
Possibly! I actually speculated something like that in my more raw update about the sensor a couple of days ago, that it could be used to automatically recalibrate the pointer controls. Or perhaps used to read hand signals. We'll just have to wait and see at this point to know for sure
I really don’t know how well it would work, like i just feel like there would be something off about it. I would love to see a 3rd party joycon that’s basically a mouse without a scroll wheel with switch controls on the side. Also I tried feeling how it would feel with my joycon, but it’s too small, so I wonder how it would feel with bigger joycons, but that’s if this is even happening.
Pretty sure legion go has a mouse feature so it would be a completely new concept. Id be happy to have it as an option but probably would use it very much. If I'm going to sit down and use it as a mouse i might as well play on my pc.
Honestly the main issue with this is that it's only useful if there's a table nearby when you're playing. It should be completely optional. But I can see this taking away some market share from PC.
Something that people commenting on this news fail to mention is that this would make a joycon a rather unconventional mouse. 1) Theres haptick feedback. 2) The gyro/accelerometer inside will make this both an air mouse & a traditional one. More over if Nintendo includes a magnetometer, when using mouse mode the switch 2 would be able to reliably track the joycon orientation while you slide it on the surface. A quick example case would be controlling a pointer freely on screen by moving the joycon, but twisting the joycon slightly to the left or right could pan the camera like a virtual joystick. Imagine Snake Pass. The player has to slide the joycon while zig zaging left right to make the character move.
The story so far Nintendo: "Let's make the Wii U into a fully portable console." Valve: "Very nice. We see your console, and raise you the Steam back catalogue." Nintendo: "Nice move, but you dropped this! 🐁"
I don't see this being a mouse feature, but more some Ir sensor that will correspond to the system to further confirm that the Joy-Cons are attached and locked into place along the sides of the system.
Nintendo can at least claim to have dual wielding mice as their new "innovative controls" selling point. Having functionally 4 directional inputs has to be useful for some unimaginable kind of game. And then you can add independent gyro controls. You could imagine grabbing 2 items on a "desktop", rotating them by rotating the controllers, and then plugging them together. That's on par with VR, just on a flat surface.
As long as it’s a completely optional feature in games, I’d 100% be down for this, the concept is great
Exactly. Having more options is never a bad idea, as long as its not forced to everyone. I hope this is true!
I imagine Nintendo would probably have a little cradle that the joy con sits in when you’re using it as a mouse to make it feel more like a traditional mouse.
Solid idea, easy accessory that could make or officiate. Folks with 3D printers would be first to make something functional I bet.
Yeah, it would be very uncomfortable & unintuitive to use a joycon on its side like a mouse without an attachment.
@@corey2232 ...an adaptor made out of cardboard?
@@bradharrah3339 Or just a magnetic mouse "grip" that comes with the system.
The Lenovo Leigon Go does in such an amazing way.
Imagine all the leaks were fake and not even close to what Nintendo reveals...oh the egg on everyone's face.
I could see that happening.
I've kinda kept away from speculation for this very reason. Admittedly this is the most unique rumor I've heard so far
the rumors are true rhe only egg on anyones face will be an egg on yours
@@TehSymbiote What if there is a new Switch but only to keep the Switch brand alive while the "successor" is more like a playstation.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. It can absolutely be real, but I think there's plenty of reason for it to be all fake.
Anyone remember the Pokémon Stars rumor that just so happened to start the day after Sun and Moon released? People seemed to think that since all reporting kept saying the same thing, it must be real. Meanwhile, all reporters were using the same exact single source, or pointing to other reports that came from that original source. It turns out that nothing was true and nothing even came out of that in October's massive Pokémon leak.
All I'm saying is that just because many are repeating the same rumors or supposed leaks, that never makes it 100% true.
I thought at first that it was useless until I thought about it for a little bit, this has a lot of potential
It's a feature that many others might copy. Mouse input remains supreme in many genres today.
Same here. I thought it must be super weird to hold the joy con sideways like that. But now that I've tested it, it actually makes sense and feels fine.
But mice would be terrible for video games. Imagine playing a game like Call of Halo with a mouse. Impossible!
(Sorry, I lowered my IQ to see what a console player would say.)
@@ninjaguyYTlol
I feel like this has to be it.
New major nintendo consoles just have this sort of... "Oh!" to them.
Exactly! Something that makes so much sense instantly, but you’d never think of on your own. I really hope this happens!
@@ZiggyPalffyLA I was actually thinking of this before this leak... and I'm so excited for it to come true.
If this is true, it would be great and so clever - as someone who has been a computer gamer all his life and recently switched to consoles, it would make controlling things much easier for me, especially since there are genres of games that I love - such as strategy, sims, rts - which have terrible controls on consoles
Idk if Pikmin counts as a typical RTS but I always felt that it controlled well
Nintendo said we are a PC now.
Thanks to the many frustrated PC players, it could happen. Maybe as an option for certain modes of play.
They're getting damn close to it though especially if this is true with the mouse support they're going to have Xbox and PlayStation create something similar watch because that's the ultimate control the mouse
Strange that, if this does end up being true, that means nintendo created that patent for scroll wheel bumpers just to scrap it and then end up adapting mouse functionality into the joycons, a feature that would've paired perfectly with scroll wheel bumpers.
Wait so they did actually create it, or was it only a suggestion?
If they did, why don't they use something that clearly does work and does separate them from other controllers?
@vittosphonecollection57289 if I remember correctly they patented it.
@@ScrimmyBunglets Then they should use it someday it is a pretty good idea IMO
@vittosphonecollection57289 yeah I agree
OMG it makes so much sense now the C button means cursor
Either that, or "center" to re-center the cursor. Perhaps there will be a mouse attachment that the sensor is programmed to recognize to activate the cursor.
no, the left joycon has an optical sensor and no c button
It sounds ridiculous, and Nintendo would do something like that
fr, i feel like people will be uncomfortable with this
Whoever thought of that idea needs a raise
Definitely!!!
Just wait till you hear about the Legion Go having had the feature for over a year
Why is nobody talking about the possibility of Flipnote coming back if this is real?
Well I guess if it does come back, they’d be taking a *gamble*
I’m surprised noone has mentioned two specific letters when talking about Switch 2. VR. It’s going to be powerful enough to run Quest3 level VR games, so couldn’t these sensors connect to a Controller Grip, to enhance motion/finger tracking for VR games?
I really hope. I always thought they wasted VR on the only console that comes with "VR Ready" controllers by default and is basically a tablet.
Now they're making another console with motion sensors and detatchable controllers, they better not waste the opportunity again.
(And before you remind me about Labo. No. I'm talking about real VR.)
Nintendo isn't a VR type of company. They will 100% focus on AR rather than hiding players inside of face-hugging screens. And thank God for that.
Let Nintendo team up with Japanese companies TDK and QD Laser to launch a retinal projection wearable that scans the game's visuals onto the player's retinas with no intermediary screen. This could be used to enhance games on the TV at home, but then it could also be used to completely replace the handheld screen. A retinal projector or virtual retinal display creates the image on the retina that then appears as if floating somewhere in front of the user. They can have the virtual screen appear affixed to the handheld like a screenless slate with a touch interface. This is just the tip of the iceberg. VRD systems also don't cause eye fatigue or headaches like screens near your face do.
@@amjiva Except they have dipped their toes into it several times. Virtual Boy, 3DS, Labo, Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey. I'm a VR developer and I'd love to finally develop for a Nintendo console.
VR failed, thats why
@@amjiva OMG that would be so sick!
If you're talking like this, then that implies that retinal projection is already a reality (pun not intended), right?!
Nintendo Life also gave the idea that the attachment for the wrist straps could send the light on the optical reader upwards towards the shoulder buttons, essentially making it behave like a Wii Remote that can identify where the TV is and project its cursor on it (similar to how some smart tvs have the controller act like a pointer cursor).
If true, and if the Switch 2 is also capable of casting to other screens, we could have a combination of Switch, Wii, Wii U and DS gimmicks, all in one console plus the mouse!
This would make Switch 2 the ultimate Nintendo console. NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Wii, Wii U, Switch, Switch 2, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, DS, and 3DS games all on one console, alongside SNES mouse games and light gun games.
@@whyrwehere Imagine if you can plug a second screen on the top USB-C port, and that screen is glasses-free 3D!
OHH that would be the most amazing thing ever omg!!
It would be the Ultimate Nintendo Console!
The Wii U was pretty close and so was the Switch, now we finally have the technology to have the true definitive Nintendo.
Finally, just what we needed for Etrian Odyssey VI and a Kid Icarus Uprising port to come to life...
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS...
Oh my gosh you're right. This would be PERFECT for Kid Icarus Uprising to finally get a console port or sequel.
Imagine playing Metroid Prime 4 this way
The only problem I see with this idea is that, as an alternative control scheme, it seems to be very cumbersome to set up and circumstancial compared to the other 3 main modes of the current Switch. There's a reason most keyboards and mice are placed stationary on a desk or table most of the time.
Still not convinced this is the case but would be interesting to see
After watching this, I tried it with my Joycons and I must say that it actually was pretty smooth but a little painful with the size of them. But with the bigger size, it'll definitely be more comfortable than the current ones. Could totally see it working out that way and would be excited to see how they would take advantage of it.
How do you go about setting this up exactly? Does the gyroscope act as the mouse input?
I gave Andre the following suggestion but i doubt hell read so many messages:
"Why didnt you used a gyro aiming compatible switch game. Set the neutral position of the joycon in mouse mode. Then see how fast can you move the joycon on the surface to control aiming.
This is more simple yet gives a good idea how practical is to drag a joycon to aim."
If you have on of those gyro aiming games you can try & report back how it feels.
The trigger and bumpers are longer on the switch 2 joy con it seems, making it easier to use as mouse buttons. This seems very likely, and I'd be disappointed if this didn't happen.
I was neutral on the idea of a mouse but this video showed me some of the possibilities!
I had my doubts, but the more I heard the explanation the more I agreed
I actually like this idea. Especially as the shoulder buttons would become the left/right mouse buttons.
This is actually a cool idea. I'm imagining a new game that's a 2D platformer-puzzle game where you use one joy-con to control a character and the other as a cursor. You must use both to solve cool and creative puzzles in each bite-sized level. It'd also be usefull for games like Mario Maker 3 or maybe even a Tomodachi Life sequel?
Honestly, I'm letdown that kind of game hasn't been made on the computer yet. Lol. Sounds great as a PC game in general for mouse and keyboard.
You basically described a ton of wii games, the 2 mario galaxies included.
@@Refreshment01 Those use it for aiming.
So like, the wiimote and nunchuk?
@@Medachod The slings, pullstars, bubles & the 2 player coop mode werent strictly aiming. But my answer hinted as various wii games of which galaxies were popular examples. Lost in Shadow fitws galxykid suggestion perfectly.
It really could be a killer feature. I imagine we would get an accessory to make it more ergonomic too
Actually genius. So basic, yet such a wonderful option for control. We could have good RTS on console!
lenovo did this for their legion go
This could actually herald in a never before seen era of strategy games on console. 🤔
I love when Andre is hyped like this. His hype is so infectious
It definitely needs to have that
If those images are actual leaks, I hope the bumper or "trigger" buttons are touch sensitive so they can function as a mouse wheel. It would also allow more functionality in normal play like on the fly menu navigation or camera control options.
The only problem I can see with this is how tiny the Joycon is compared to an actual mouse, I can see hand cramps aplenty from extended use of this feature without some kind of extra pieces.
Yeah, there would likely be an accessory that you can attach to the joycon to widen the base
thats where prob the console and joy-cons being bigger helps
With the streaming of games being more popular and for some of the reasons you suggest, this sounds super plausible.
Imagine playing Splatoon with that feature.
The Lenovo Legion Go already has that feature on it's right joy con and it work really well
This makes even more sense after remembering that the SNES service on NSO was found to have support for SNES Mouse games!! I wouldn't be surprised if we saw an SNES Mouse for the Switch and Switch 2 sometime after the Switch 2 releases
The more and more I thought of this idea and how it would apply to video games, a hilarious idea had just clicked in my head. If both of the Joy-Cons have mouse controls...
Dual Mice controls. It's so bizarre, I can't even tell if it's an awesome idea or an awful idea!
If I'm being honest, that feels so much like a Nintendo idea. To make a controller that can act like a computer mouse.
Obviously, the dream idea is to make a new Mario Paint with that concept but I think other games that work best on PC could benefit from it, like FPS games for instance.
We know how Nintendo sits on concepts for years and years and then resurfaces them when we least expect it. Did anyone really anticipate the resurrection of the SNES Mouse as primary gimmick rofl
What an uncomfortable mouse... I hope there's an attachment to make it more functional, because using a thin, unbalanced joycon on its side as a mouse would get very uncomfortable, very fast.
There are going to be accesories for it. It's not going to not have any, it's a brand new generation.
There'll be a Joy Mouse grip
This would be a game changer for so many pc ports, especially simulations.
The Switch 2's killer feature will be its killer games. JoyCon mouse is pretty clever though.
Honestly mouse controls on the switch would be a game changer. It would give us access to touch controls without needing a stylus or very accurate touch screen (meaning DS games could be added to NSO). It would also make games that play better on keyboard and mouse play better on switch too (such as FPS, Moba, RTS, etc).
This has a lot of potential for certain game genres
Wasn’t there a patent for a shoulder button that functions as a mouse wheel? This is pretty plausible.
first interesting thing about the Switch 2 for me, so i'm not gonna hype myself with this yet, but if this is what it is, then please: this mouse feature + Super Mario Maker 3 with Mario Wonder psychics + 100-man reinstated into the game, would be amazing.
The idea is good. But will they even release a Mario Maker 3 with how the sales of MM2 was disappointing to Nintendo?
They can release a patch for the switch game. It can even be an os feature that lets the optical sensor emulste a thumbstick.
Hey, I bought the game, and it was still fun to play as the previous Mario Maker game(s). They will.
I'm becoming more and more hyped for the mouse sensor on joy-cons. As this video points out, it actually feels totally fine ergonomically using a joy-con like a mouse, and it's such a perfect fit for the joy-con controllers one-handed form-factor. For the first time, PC RTS games would be fully playable on console without feeling "off" with too slow controls. You could use the control stick as a scrolling wheel too. Mouse aiming will probably become the new "gyro-aiming" among Switch gamers. :)
This would be amazing, the potential of a mouse can play so many third party games, games like Genshin Impact would make much more sense, Zenless Zone Zero and the rest like minded games, Marvel Rivals, Roblox (As because of the console versions aren't as fun than on PC) but Switch 2 having a mouse feature would be perfect, or even Sim 4 and many other games! So much potential, and like the Wii U (and probably switch, I never tried) can connect a usb keyboard to it, I used to do that with the Wii U, the Switch can practically play like a PC (obviously not as powerful as high end pc's) with a connected keyboard and having the Joy-con as a mouse, I really hope the mouse feature is true, but I mean it's okay if it's not, just can't wait till the actual reveal of the Switch 2, whenever it is.
Wow! I can't believe I didn't notice this before... a few months ago there was a leak where someone saw the Switch 2 and said that one of the buttons was also used as a scroll wheel like a mouse, and that really ties in with the current leak!!!
i do wonder about pro controllers, which presumably it would be basically impossible to do these controls with one of those
I was whistling the Mario paint theme whilst watching this
Imagine a Luigi’s Mansion game with point & click adventure elements or Animal Crossing with elements of 3D modeling software, video editing, or drawing software, the mouse could be a game changer.
I really need to see it in practice. I'm not typically around a desk when I play games, nor do I want to carry around a soft mouse pad. For me I think it'll all depend on how practical it will be just to use the side of your leg or sofa.
Why would anyone use the Nintendo Switch Joy-Con as a computer mouse?! That's just completely absurd!
The succesor is the definitive edition of Nintendo Switch, so it makes so much sense.
@@BroShip-e2j That's easy for you to say.😒
@ Lol, I think you're probably right!
It lines up with what nexthandheld said.. new orientation and surprise feature
I hope that means that we can also connect every regular mouse to the switch, becaue well.. it's a nice idea but it's a mouse for baby hands lol. They could also give us some attachments for the jocons that allow better ergonomics and buttons that are bigger and easier to press
What a stupid gimmick, 1. You need a table to use it, you lose access to most of the buttons, it looks even more uncomfortable to use than the joy cons. Feels over the top for a couple of niche games that would use it. Why not just release a separate Nintendo mouse for games that might need it
It’s the vitality sensor. It will track your heart rate and oxygen saturation
Honestly a SUPER neat idea! I hope it's real
I wouldn’t want games to require the use but as an alternate input method.
Finally, Mario Paint 3
Even better! Mario Paint: All-Stars collection!
This would come close to myiamoto and iwatas vision for having less buttons on a controller.
I can't see it being used much but could be an optional extra. IR pointing had gotta be the main reason for it, it's far more feasible.
Wow not gonna lie this is actually a genius feature. It bridges the gap between controller and mouse & keyboard
A bunch of controller unfriendly games could be ported nicely too
Do we think both Joycon will get this feature? The con shown is a left joycon, and many to most people (myself NOT included) use right handed mice
This is stupid. There's nothing stopping Nintendo from allowing any Bluetooth mouse from pairing with the Switch now.
If PC players want to use a mouse like that on the Switch and the succesor so badly, then just connect your Bluetooth mouse to the Switch?
What's the big deal?
Somebody was holding a Joycon in their hand and rest it on a table
Nintendo: WRITE THAT DOWN!!
😂
Super Mario Maker 3
Warioware: Let it Click!
Fnaf......Just FNAF
they'll need an accessory for that so it won't scratch the main joy con
Mouse pad accessory
Launch title: Super mario paint remake
a mouse is cool but what about the other controller? a keyboard works because there's so many keys your left hand can hit (wasd, shift for run, ctrl for crouch, Q, E, and like the first 5 numbers)
it would be basically impossible to use the mouse to aim, left control stick to move, and other other buttons other than the L and ZL ones.
I've been told that the concept of using a mouse in one hand and a controller in the other is apparently not new, somehow. As long as the mouse lets you left and right click, it should technically be able to work.
You could also use stick buttons and four directions on stick of the "mouse joycon", for something at least.
So the setup is left joycon in hand normal orientation & right joycon in mouse mode. Left joycon has: 4 face buttons, left thumbstick click, l, zl, - & gyro/accelerometer. Right joycon has: optical sensor (basically right thumbstick), r, zr & 4 face buttons. Also you can basically lift the mouse & shake it to reload.
It can work.
02:06 @Andre: Do you remember one of the first switch 2 leaks which was some factory shells of the joycon & switch 2 tablet? Well those shells showed both joycons (left & right). Both had the same exact top layout with the hole for the supposed optical sensor in both parts.
What you should have done in this video was to see how it feels to hold both joycon in the right hand. Since majority of population is right and multiplayer on !ouse mode will need a right handed user to hold a left joycon.
A game using the left and right joycons simultaneously as “switch-mice,” could be interesting.
Though I have no idea how that would work.
Wait thats huge. And the joycons are bigger too so theyd probably be comfortable
Others like luxury though. Some people won't like them without some kind of hand friendly grip to go with it.
You forgot one game and genres. Metroid Prime 4 and FPS games.
If the feature is an integral part of the switch 2, then it means we won't see a switch 2 lite... Unless the switch 2 also support regular usb / Bluetooth mice. But in this case, why add the laser sensor to the joycon, increasing its production cost...
The other detail I noticed is the lack of rubber feet in the leaked image of the joycon. Even if you buy the cheapest mouse at the dollar store, it will have some kind of feet underneath it to help it slide better. Why wouldn't the joycon have some ?
Don't get me wrong: I like the idea, but I don't think Nintendo will go this route.
If it works on my couchs surface I am in 😊
But why? It seems uncomfortable
this is probably something nintendo would do. they feel they need gimmicks for every new console gen.
The best use is for shooters obv. I'm down for this to be real. You could also use it in TV mode or handheld mode
I’m not against it, but why not just let us plug in an actual computer mouse, and, for that matter, a keyboard?
Because then where's the point of selling joy cons for a succesor console when you can just buy them to use with your PC? Whilist, it's pointless and renders them as your tradition PC mouse.
is it possible that the sensor could be there to somehow help keep the gyro from drifting by detecting your hand? don't get me wrong i'm loving the mouse idea (even though i can't think of many uses for it outside of FPS or RTS games) but now i can't help but wonder what else it could be intended for
Possibly! I actually speculated something like that in my more raw update about the sensor a couple of days ago, that it could be used to automatically recalibrate the pointer controls. Or perhaps used to read hand signals. We'll just have to wait and see at this point to know for sure
Please port classic RTS to Switch 2!
I really don’t know how well it would work, like i just feel like there would be something off about it. I would love to see a 3rd party joycon that’s basically a mouse without a scroll wheel with switch controls on the side. Also I tried feeling how it would feel with my joycon, but it’s too small, so I wonder how it would feel with bigger joycons, but that’s if this is even happening.
Joy Con Mouse feature could be good for Metroid Prime 4
Only issue, I only play handheld
Same, I very rarely play docked.
I'm so hyped for this feature. Then I'm going to be very sad if it's not real
This would be a great upsell for Metroid Prime 4 on the new system
Metriod Prime on Pc was a game changer, so i hope this will be the case for the Remasters and Prime 4
Pretty sure legion go has a mouse feature so it would be a completely new concept. Id be happy to have it as an option but probably would use it very much. If I'm going to sit down and use it as a mouse i might as well play on my pc.
Honestly the main issue with this is that it's only useful if there's a table nearby when you're playing. It should be completely optional. But I can see this taking away some market share from PC.
Something that people commenting on this news fail to mention is that this would make a joycon a rather unconventional mouse. 1) Theres haptick feedback. 2) The gyro/accelerometer inside will make this both an air mouse & a traditional one.
More over if Nintendo includes a magnetometer, when using mouse mode the switch 2 would be able to reliably track the joycon orientation while you slide it on the surface. A quick example case would be controlling a pointer freely on screen by moving the joycon, but twisting the joycon slightly to the left or right could pan the camera like a virtual joystick.
Imagine Snake Pass. The player has to slide the joycon while zig zaging left right to make the character move.
We'll finally get a new Trauma Center 🙏
The story so far
Nintendo: "Let's make the Wii U into a fully portable console."
Valve: "Very nice. We see your console, and raise you the Steam back catalogue."
Nintendo: "Nice move, but you dropped this! 🐁"
I don’t really see a use in this feature
PC mode. Aiming games are, Mario Paint, SMM mouse support, etc.
Imagine using two joycon-mice as levers to control a mech.
Nintendo vr needs to be a thing.
Great video ❤ lots of effort in this video
Just think about it: Mario Paint on Nintendo Switch Online SNES app.
If that were to happen. It would make a lot of PC gamers very happy.
I don't see this being a mouse feature, but more some Ir sensor that will correspond to the system to further confirm that the Joy-Cons are attached and locked into place along the sides of the system.
Nintendo can at least claim to have dual wielding mice as their new "innovative controls" selling point. Having functionally 4 directional inputs has to be useful for some unimaginable kind of game. And then you can add independent gyro controls. You could imagine grabbing 2 items on a "desktop", rotating them by rotating the controllers, and then plugging them together. That's on par with VR, just on a flat surface.