Rare For A Reason - Ship Request #5: Gibraltar
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The focus fire wasn't because you're a Gibraltar. Any British Cruiser tends to attract that kind of fire because you tend to just eat citadels at weird angles. Gibraltar is fat compared to Goliath, and that means more arming time.
True but also it may be that he was recognized and you "MUST KILL UA-camR MUAAAA" or ppl understand that this ship just deletes DDs and they were trying to level the field for their team.
He was parked in smoke. That automatically attracts torps. Plus at this point people know who 'Not PQ' is.
Professional stabber.
@@Skerra-kk6sm ''PotatoQualityCC''
Vampire II would be cool, not covered a lot in general and would like to see your opinion on it
Yes, Aussie power!
yeah I always hear how good it is but it seems like I never see anyone play it on YT
@@Vodhka check out a small channel called Ripper DD. He’s a DD main and has just dropped 2 videos on using it in Airship Escort.
i love my Vamp 2, its great for dumping on torp boats ( especially the braindead shima) and can outgun/outplay alot of the gun boat dd's.
@@Vodhka Trenlass has played a few games in it recently (last 1 or 2 months of content).
In that second match, I don't think they were focusing your Gibraltar. I think they were focusing YOU. They probably recognized the name and decided to try and get "famous".
I'd like to see Hayate in the next one, wanna know gameplay difference between it and Kitakaze
Hayate is quite cheap when compare to the gibraltar in terms of FreeXP cost
Me too.
Hayate is pure rubbish.
stay away! get Agir + Groningen with that 2 mi free xp
@@rowinglove4ever you are talking to the guy who right after getting the game grinded for Neptune with secondary build
You have too much faith in me
To be serious, I suffer so much from grinding that I spend all my free xp on tech tree ships
The only time I spend free xp on a ship was with Nelson, and only when I got 200k headstart
Secondary Neptune wasn't a joke at all though
When I play my Goliath everyone and their brother focuses on me. I’ve always felt that people will always shoot at cruisers first over bb trying to get east cheep kill.
You lived while taking a lot of the enemy team's attention. Sometimes that in of itself is very useful.
A good look at the Mecklenburg now in 2023, OR a fresh look at the Austin. And if either gets picked, a recomendation for first steel ship. I know you will say Bourgogne, but then maybe include your second pick lol
Bourgogne is a awesome first steel pick. Mecklenburg is another great pick and while I don't have Ragnar, most people say it's great.
Stalingrad first steel boat, love it not too far away from second steel ship torn between Shikishima or Bourgogne
i bought Bourg as my first steel ship, i regret it. I would rather have Ragnar or Mecklenburg, or Austin if you play in divs and can get smoked up.
@@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 The key to the Bourg is that because it's covered in 32mm plating, to NOT play it like a brawling BB, but rather a super heavy cruiser. Use the reload booster to hammer and crush broadsides and the speed booster for flanking and throttle juking.
@@ryanbrochu3336 thats exactly how i play it, but i find the guns very underwhelming. with only 32 all over your a big gun bb's favorite target, and anything that shoots SAP also melts you. When your team is already backlining there is where for you to go, but into the fire and melt.
Lets see some Druid gameplay
Looking at that fresh 0 ship exp, I knew you wasnt lying about never trying the ship before lol.
Please showcase Omaha! It is the face of all the tier 5 light cruisers, because of how comical it is, but in my experience it is very powerful when you know how to use it. It would also be nice to have a fresh look at the Omaha, because no new Omaha content has come out recently. (I also want to see how you play it.)
I suspect in that last game there was an element of the enemy team focusing the player and not the ship, ie they were shooting at PC, regardless of the ship you're in, rather than the correct ship, ie the Ohio next to you. However I do notice that it does seem to draw a bit more fire than other cruisers, but that is probably a hope for a Dev Strike on a UK cruiser.
I quite like Gibraltar, but I do agree she's not a great ship. I play the UK CLs quite a lot so I'm comfortable with the AP-only smoke cruiser play, people who aren't used to the aiming for AP-Only cruisers will find it frustrating, but she can take absolutely enormous chunks out of anything. She'll nuke DDs (As that Halland discovered), she'll chew BBs to pieces and Cit cruisers into next week. She's something different, with it's own feel (Although Hampshire is similar) that's kind of the appeal, which is a hard sell when she costs so much RP.
If you enjoy the UK Lights Cruisers or enjoyed Hampshire then Gibraltar can be fun, but I doubt if she's useful for competitive play such as Ranked or Clan Battles, Gibraltar does not do well in a static meta game, you need a ship with HE in those.
Her lack of torps and the atrocious turret angles are the biggest flaws for me.
Those games when PQ is just another mere mortal :-) thanks for this
I think with the focus fire you were by far the most forward and a big threat to their DD.. also Cruisers go boom so they may have been hoping for a dev-strike to just take you out quick.
Obligatory request for a one take featuring Okhotnik, the war canoe.
They're focusing you because of your name more than because of your ship I think
I'd really love to see the Incomparable.
Something I have learned over time is that people aren't shooting all that frequently anymore. I've been in clusters of five or six ships and bean completely focused because everyone is still dark.
People are literally afraid to shoot nowadays
Being spotted these days is just a death sentence what with all the CVs and subs that can just focus you without taking any damage in return and melt your ship down
@@PunzL I've literally been in situations where Ive been shot at by a Montana and he held fire for 2 full mins until I was spotted again to shoot at me.
Been in enough situations like that to the point I've started timing them. He still managed 7th place
Gib. really only does one thing and that’s clap destroyers.
Really enjoy the channel. Thanks.
I think they are just focusing Potato quality CC and not Gibraltar. I almost got this ship a week ago but opted for Vamp 2. It does look like it has potential. 59k RB points is just so much for a situational ship. It needs the brit heal or torps or something...
I'd love to see some videos on lower tier ships. Personally tiers 9-10 get old really fast with super ships and the horribly passive meta in randoms. I've been grinding French cruisers, currently at Algerie, and really enjoying it since things feel more balanced and people actually push in.
I would agree. Tiers IX-XI seems to have become progressively less enjoyable because of the multitude of plagues. Sky cancer, subs, radar.
@@Darren4352 Exactly. There are more and more planes with every patch it seems like. Funny thing is it's more common to get double CV games at lower tiers, but they feel a lot less OP and able to ruin your game than the tier 10/super CV's. Subs are their own category of cancer, but at least most of them I've come across don't seem to know what they're doing, especially at mid tiers.
Can we see a Henri IV maybe in the next one of this series?
when i am in gibraltar i get focused very hard. i susually just try to support the dd in the beginning because i won't live long anyway. i sometimes got hunted to the edge of the map
I would love to see what you would be able to achieve doing open water Colbert with the legendary commander!
I know its not everyone's fav ship but I love mine. Also if wargaming ever gave it goliaths armor/torp protection she would be so tough. Great vid.
You should focus on shooting DD’s and light cruisers. You did 10k damage on halland and that normal for Gibraltar. It’s made for stabbing DD’s and light cruisers😊
Please consider Pensacola:
- Slow turret traverse, showcasing more "how important is turret pre-turning".
- Lowest tier with US heavy AP shell and magic bounce angle, 10 guns, heavy salvo showcase, turret sector angle is also good to use all guns (30°).
- Tankiest T6 cruiser without heal, 25mm bounces 356mm BB and shatters most DD HE.
If you find perfect match to showcase, tanking BB can be fun, against higher caliber though... though (less overpen and citadel through 25mm citadel deck).
- And most importantly... secondary build memes! It only has 4 lobbing guns each side, but she got the most accurate cruiser secondary.
Perhaps luckily finds scene where suprer low HP DD pops up from hydro and shortly after CQE achievement. Secondary build is not necessary.
Try a hybrid/secondary Shikishima with close quarters expert, AR and main battery reload mod, in airship escort. You get a sub 20 second reload on Shikishima guns!
due to the specialized fuse time and fuse threhold this ship will mostly do full pen on dd which makes it a dd deleter（ if u can hit tho）😢
Siegfried with spamming change lock on target button
I got this ship last month, and found it ridiculously fun and consistent. You have to know where to aim and it's not gameplay for the faint-hearted, but these days every cruiser attracts the same amount of attention. Don't use range mod and trade Concealment module for Steering Gears 2; pick an island, use it to juke your enemies around, and try and draw them in close.
I dropped this game a while ago, but if u have HSF Harekaze I think that would make an interesting video. I have never seen someone use hull 3 effectively and I would love to see you try.
The end of the first game bro💀
Can you do one for the München (tier 7 german premium cruiser)? I love that ship and think it is very underrated. Like a USN light cruiser with a bit less dpm but more comfortable to play (more range, amazing conceal, yolo torps, german HE pen, german hydro)
I would like to see you cover the Sovetsky Soyuz and/or maybe the Leander.
How do you get your crosshair to look like that? I just returned to the game and have been watching your videos and thought wow that is clear.
2:38 Narrator: He would, in fact, not be surprised.
Vermont. I want to see the spacebar trick on it along with Slava.
Vampire vs Daring would be an interesting comparison, especially with the recent buff to Daring's legmod.
Neustrashimy, as usual.
And to people requesting ships that have already been covered by PQ, please, I feel these "ship request" vids are meant to feature ships that PQ doesn't usually play. Or at least a very different build from what he uses. So the people asking Stalingrad or Vermont or whatever... PQ has already lots of vids on them.
i wonder why spend 59k research point on this thing. It likely to explode since it has 9.5km firing penalty and not thing on the back. Sometimes I saw it in my team and exploded because it was citadel from the weirdest angle as possible. Italian cruiser can do the same but better looking and armor
ochakov t8 cruiser would be nice
Next request:
Minotaur with legmod❤
👍🏻
Did you change your camera angle settings? There is a lot of ship and water in front of the ship in your default view.
Surely that was not like that in your recent videos.
I ll love to see you play Druid destroyer.
Lets give us Gascogne another try pls
Does the targeting bug not affect cruisers?
Hey, PQ. Would love to see you play the Gremmy. I've 400+ ships, but I'm never able to obtain the Gremmy. It would be great to see you drive her...
You asked about getting focused in Gibraltar. I don't remember being focused like that in my Gibraltar, but I also don't have a youtube channel with 41k subs.
I would like too see Sherman for this type of video :)
Play the Seattle with stock hull. It is suprisingly tanky
Mecklenburg would be great. Think with its on par with Bourgogne as its AP likes broadsides
I'd like to see Somers being played. Just american Shima and how to build it
I played the wukong 3 times before I realized it's a cruiser and not a bb. It worked fine till I figured it out.
please do the Iwami, I know you gave it a first impressions about 7 months ago but I would like to see it again with diff builds.
Can you play the Yudachi? It is by far the best ship in the game.
how about doing a video on Nurnberg? hahaha
Right now I'm wondering what happens to Gibraltar once Monmouth comes out. While the two definitely don't overlap in terms of gimmick (Monmouth is more conventionally Goliath than Gibraltar) it raises a question of how distribution will work (especially since we haven't had a ship be pulled from the RB yet).
Another thing is that TGG isn't that good on Gibraltar because the angles are so bad, so being close in is uh, not a good idea. Reload mod is still gonna be the better bet in that regard.
I would like to see an Atlantico video. It's a ship I see all the time but I don't know any of it's qualities.
Please showcase any T3 cruiser. I just want to see you go up against the career T3 players that hang out down there constantly. Tried to get a couple low tier win rates up a bit and totally paid the price. Was pretty crazy looking at their stats post game.
The citadel is absolutely gigantic, no spaced armor like Goliath has and the smoke firing penalty is massive. Combined with the short range, makes it VERY hard to position properly where you have targets in range and not spotting you through your smoke.
And like you noticed, absolutely terrible firing angles due to the quad barrel turrets. She is a bunch of gimmicks piled together which just don't work that well. She can be made to be effective, and her AP will absolutely destroy DDs. But I think for the amount of effort she takes to play, I would rather play Minotaur or Plymouth.
Honestly, I would like to see you try to do something with any of the tier V cruisers. I recently started playing the game and, oh my god, they are miserable. Especially the Omaha, you can't even hide behind most islands in that thing because of the terrible firing arcs of the guns on it. That and the whole thing is a giant citadel that can be penned from seemingly every angle.
My good sir, I must respectfully disagree with you. The Omaha specifically, in my opinion is a very powerful cruiser. I have carried so many Ranked battles in this ship. The first item I want to talk about is the firing arcs. I do not understand how you have so much trouble using islands. Again, I say this, not with any negativity whatsoever, but for the sake of discussion and learning. I have done tens of thousands of damage in the first few minutes of the match using islands. In your case, try open water if islands don't work. I have also done so much damage in open water because the Omaha works so well at range, because the shell flight time is so good. Not only that, but it handles like a pro figure skater on ice. I have juked so many BBs at range, that while they were focusing me, (and missing) my teammates won the match.
All in all, I find the Omaha to be the most powerful out of all the T5 cruisers. (I forgot to mention, it even has torpedoes!can you believe how many people actually let you get close enough to use them? Its amazing the number!)
Oh and one more thing. I find that no armor is best armor. Because, while you can get completely blapped, in my experience, people don't know how to aim and they tend to just overpen. Thus allowing me to get close enough to use my torpedoes.
@@blazinbenji5571 My experience has been a bit different from yours evidently, I've thought of a few things I could probably change in my playstyle from the points you've brought up, though I don't agree fully with all of them. Having said that, I got so fed up with the Omaha that I ended up dumping most of my free exp to bypass it a couple of days ago.
Try sticking it in open water, full speed, full rudder and just have a ball. You’ll last longer than you think and do some damage. The Omaha is as good as the captain. It’s either insta-killed or gangster. It has great range, armed to the teeth, fast, agile and plenty of torps if BBs get too close. I heard going bow in is it’s flaw.
Gibraltar is better looking than Goliath
Faster fire rate
Much more agile
Basically dev strikes any DD
Is pretty good at killing most cruisers (esp Soviet ones)
Is fairly stealthy
Has a smoke which is somewhat helpful (sometimes just to disengage - secondaries are decentish)
It can be a good torpedo Vs BBs if push comes to shove (i.e ramming)
I quite like her in ranked, less so in randoms.
not sure if possible but division up and try to get Nikolai (if you have it) into a tier 6 game
I want to change that to Toulon and the Strasboug, play them both one after the other and give impressions!
I’d love to see a Roon video
What does CC stands for in your nickname?
From experience, EVERYONE will focus you as a Gibraltar to the exclusion of everyone else... honestly you can sometimes use that to your advantage in a lot of situations...
But even so, it's a pretty miserable ship to play.
He spent the second match by the trusty whinging island 🤣🙃
Great XP pinata
Maybe you were focused because it was PotatoQuality CC playing. Might have been the player, not the ship that worried them.
Giuseppe Verdi on Airship!
Lol, this ship's name sounds pharmaceutical.
USS Sims. That closed beta ship needs a buff...
Gunboat shimikaze. It can only be fantastic
That would be very very fun
@@NoName-wi8xz I figure that hyete(sic) exists for a reason
@@Skerra-kk6sm Yep but u have to go full lightbouse, otherwise it suckz
@@NoName-wi8xz I don't know if the t4 brawl skill would fit honestly but I'm definitely curious.
Honestly from what I saw of the video, I don't think the Gibraltar does anything special better than a Venezia or Hindenburg, I'm comparing with these two because it seems to be focused on those big alpha salvoes and slow reload. The smoke is imo kinda useless since you have heavy cruiser guns so the smoke firing penalty is really bad, making using the smoke situational at best. No armor and no super heal makes it inherently inferior to both Hindy and Venezia too, so I dunno, for a research ship it seems extremely underwhelming!
I definately feel focused ridiculously in randoms. In cv games i feel like public enemy #1. Focus me until im dead.
Ournumbered is not when you have bad position... it is there because your team leave the flank and you must hold it by yourself
Strasbourg please.
Stalingrad
can you showcase the makarav
What about Slava next? :-)
Make my Massa a secondary beast again! Massachusetts, please :)
Wish I had never wasted the resources and time for this ship.
Would be nice to see flandre again
Nice to watch another game from you, thank you. Im sorry but the Gibraltar just isn't worth the RP. If it had HE it would be a better ship but still not great. It kind of lacks in almost every category but really isn't outstanding at anything. I think I would rather have a Tier IX Drake and have the HE along with Hydro, Torps, better Heal and a Spotting Plane. The smoke is good but not good enough to actually benefit from.
Outnumbered is real nice on ships like Napoli, Petro, Carnot, where you are strong enough to hold an outnumbered flank, and need a touch more accuracy to really punish ships. The speed boost helps you dodge, and when you're up against BBs with long reloads, you can really do a number on them.
Wants more battle impact:
switches to range mod
Gibraltar is like a Yodo without torps. You are only good to clap destroyers
Funny you should mention that... I got the Ohio first then the Gibraltar.
Ah yes, the colonizer Venezia
Salem in Airship Escort!
Valejo?
People don't do that to a Gibraltar in island shade normally. This is definitely just your name aggro.
SHIRATSUYU THE POI BOAT
Play Ragnar. I think that will be an alien for you.
Not as ugly as most ships WG design themselves. Is that worth the research points? Everybody gets to decide for themselves.
British AP-only cruisers do OK when not uptiered, mostly. This seems to be an exception.
Benham Torp Boat!
he always talks about how good or bad the pen angles are. where do the players find that out about their ship?
Tiger 59, its a real challenge
Louisiana