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Who Is The Smartest Person In The Elder Scrolls?
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- Who is the smartest NPC in the Elder Scrolls Universe? In this video I debate that very question, comparing various figures from Elder Scrolls lore who appear to be highly intelligent.
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That courier that always manages to find the dragonborn.
Even in modded dimensions
@@mystic0146
He found me in Alduin's belly
Before saying something
Thats a overhaul for the final battle
Wow
All couriers in Cyrodill are trained to make good use of the clairvoyance spell.
I was in the soul carin and he delivered a letter to me about my wife dying....
The soul carin...
I WAS AMONGST THE DEAD...
WHOSE ONLY WAY TO GET IN WHILE ALIVE, IS UNDER A CASTLE INFESTED BY BUFFED UP VAMPIRES!!
WAYYYYY UP FUCKING NORTH!!!
*WHOSE ONLY WAY TO GET THERE IS BY BOAT!!!!!!!*
he's not intelligent... he's just a God who wanted a part time job which he takes waaaaaay to seriously..
Probably the dragonborn for figuring out the alchemy-enchanting exploit to become a god
My favorite Glitch cause I no longer have to care what Armor I wear, and what weapon I use.
I use Fur Armor the exposed torso Variant.
Scaled Gauntlets.
And Forsworn Boots.
To top it off an Alik'r Hood with an Alchemy Enchantment.
@@fenrisvermundr2516 dress for the job you want, not the job you have
Nerevarine did it better. He could fly at mach 10 with his potions
Pretty sure talos did this
@@Mae_Dastardly Nerevarine could make spells to make him immortal. Run and jump so fast you'd hit 30 minutes of load screens
Probably the giants. They got the first man into space, after all.
Ha-ha...
OMG LMAO
lmao
Sorry but Skooma was created long before Giants even existed.
Lol
Nazeem, you have to be pretty smart to get to the cloud district as often as he does
Stop ejaculating in your profile my kids are scared the dog has stopped coming outside and my wife is strangely interested GET AWAY FROM MY WIFE.
DkXboxer he’s not ejaculating you pervert. He stubbed his big toe
Nice profile, its from the animals of farthing wood, right?
And yet we never find him there.
Parrotmaster yes, I love that show!
The smartest people in Tamriel are the goddamn guards. They can know you even if they haven't seen you before, see fur coming out of your ears through your helmet, and know the rightful owner of any item they haven't seen. Godlike intelligence.
There’s...no real argument against this.
They even know who you are... Hail Sithis
not to mention they know every crime ever committed the instant its committed. even if they weren't in the same city the crime was committed in.
@@longleaf1217 Word in Skyrim travels fast. I slept just for an hour after I killed Gelog and everybody knew about her death all over Skyrim within an hour lol.
A smart person wouldn't make sweet roll jokes to anger sheogorath.
Surely M'aiq. The man throws truth bombs all the time.
He is both the greatest idiot AND genius at the same time
@@Bigslam1993 hows he an idiot
My head canon is that he achieved CHIM (or is actually the personification of Lorkhan (there is a cool theory about that one)), but is just chill about it instead of getting on an ego trip like Vivec.
@@coolboiztoyzxl7261 telling others about the truth they could not handle marking himself for thousands of his eternal life as the only being with the title "liar"
He used to. But in Skyrim he doesn´t drop anything worth the time spent with him.
Concept
A Skyrim prequel where you play as a young redguard who leaves his home in hammerfell in search of a beautiful place he once read about. He travels with caravans and makes his way to Skyrim all the while facing off with bandits giants and the occasional cult. And finally right before the credits roll he sees it
The cloud district
J wall Nazeem, an Elder Scrolls story?
PLUS CREATION CLUB PLUS ASSET FLIPS PLUS REPAIR KITS EVERY 100 HITS FOR YOUR SWORDS!
No, if you play a young redguard, it has to be an aspiring warrior in search of adventure.
He goes and beats all challenges Hammerfell has to offer, before heading on to Cyrodiil. Then he fights his way through all provinces, and while he is face to face with death many times, he manages to overcome all of his enemies. With the money he makes, he lets the greatest blacksmith in Tamriel forge himself a custom armour, so he is clad from head to toe in plate.
This makes him almost invincible, and after he has faced even the greatest champions of the daedric princes, he realises he made the game to easy. And, on that disappointment...
He heads towards Skyrim. There he hopes to find a final challenge, a worthy opponent. Dragons have returned, he learns, even Alduin himself. Miraak, the first Dragonborn is causing terror, a Civil War ravages the province and a mighty Vampire Lord threatens all inhabitants.
But when he arrives, he realizes that everything is over already. Alduin was beaten, Miraak has perished, peace has been restored and the Vampiric threat is no more. There was one Hero who beat them all. And at that moment, the warrior from Hammerfell decides to put on his full set of enchanted Ebony armour, ready his curved, life-draining ebony sword and his icy Ebony bow.
For he has done all that can be done. There is nothing left. No quests to be undertaken. No villains to be slain. No challenges to face. Except for the Dragonborn.
@@otwk Only True Witch-King and then he enters whiterun to find the dragonborn and then he hears it a voice. "Do you get to the cloud district often" he turns and see him standing there his perfect mirror his long lost brother Nazeem. But before the warrior can utter a word he's cut cut off "what am I saying of course you don't" his brother looked at him with a sneer of derision the warrior was stunned unable to utter a word and as his beloveded long lost brother walked away the warrior crumbled for It was true. He could kill an entire legion of imperial soldiers with his hands bound and his eyes blindfolded, yet he would never be worthy enough to climb the steps to dragonsreach and see the cloud district not like his most noble brother Nazeem. Knowing this the warrior sat and waited for the dragonborn to come it was the only way to become worthy enough to enter the cloud district. He would either slay the dova or die trying all he knew is that life was not worth living till he was as worthy as the mighty Nazeem.
@@killerbadger6668 im in tears
You can’t measure how smart someone in Skyrim is. Intelligence is no longer a stat.
stats are no longer a stat
That's probably why like 90% of them are so dumb.
Skyrim = Australia confirmed (100% LEGIT)
@@hetoverseo3887 Giant Spiders, Snow and Summer at the same time, Giant Lizards, Giant rats... lol
Unfortunatelly...
The Augur of Dunlain was able to become pure magicka (essentially becoming a part of Aetherius) without having to unite any empires, fiddle with any god bits or hack the game. He did it purely with his knowledge of the arcane.
Joe Z Very True!!
If I were going to create the CoW questline, a major part of that would be about studying the AUgur of Dunlain for a long time, a long time.
I'm actually very curious to know what the Augur of Dunlain's birth race was before he fused with Aetherius.
@@dancingcarapace Camelworks did a lengthy video about him. He came to the conclusion he was a Breton and the son of a Hagraven.
@@Uriseph nice to know
Lokir from Rorikstead. He died in Helgen, but he avoided getting his head cut off, and having to witness Alduin.
also, he was the only one to make an escape attempt, even though they were being executed, and thus there is no reason not to go for it. i mean, what are they gonna do, kill you?
VeryPeeved Ironically if he hadn’t made the attempt, he would’ve lived when Alduin came. Granted, no way he would’ve known that.
@@JB-xl2jc Wait how do you know he would of lived, instead of probably dying during Alduin's attack
Shady Sam Well, he might’ve died in the attack, sure. But ulfric, the player, Hadvar/Ralof, and at least some others (to spread the rumors of the attack that start out before you even leave) must’ve lived. Not a guarantee but a lot better chances!
Or he called Alduin in his prayer to Akatosh. Knowing that the Dragonborn was in the carriage with him and if not for Lokir, Alduin would've ended Skyrims current era.
Maiq.
Maiq goes a step beyond knowing that he's in a dream, he knows that he is in a game!
About on a par with Vivec, then.
@@ModdingNewbie definitely more woke than Vivec
@@Papa-Squat perhaps M'aiq has achieved CHIM that's how he knows he is in a game
Isn't M'aiq literally the developers talking to you? Because he's aware of things only a player would know.
Mannimarco: *immensely powerful, becomes essentially a god*
Also Mannimarco: *dies in three hits in Oblivion*
that dude was def not mannimarco lol if u had played ESO u would see a MASSIVE power spike between the real one and the one we kill in oblivion I mean the real one in ESO has the ability to use the power of molag bal and pull forth molag bal's daedric world so.... imagine if u met that one in oblivion lol
@@vandakaii2893 I would be inclined to say yes if it weren't for the fact that Bethesda has a record of making the ES boss fights way easier than they really should be.
I'd certainly be much happier if it were the fake Mannimarco, it's just that I think they genuinely buggered up and made it too easy, as they've done plenty of times.
Anyone who has organs and can bleed and does not wear armour should not survive from (at that point in the story an arguably experienced and geared up) Hero of Kvatch swinging an enchanted sword while Manimarco sits on a throne wearing nothing but a robe and an amulet to protect himself the Hit and run nature of this quest is what makes it exciting.
Oblivion one is decoy.
@@dz1933 That would be realistic, but to be fair you can stab certain unarmoured people for several minutes in elder scrolls games and they still won't die.
Game logic I guess.
I appreciate the honorable mention of Sybille Stentor, but you can't compliment her abilities to spend decades in a political society as a vampire without acknowledging Janus Hassildor, the vampire Count of Skingrad. He's been a vampire for 50 years and a Count for (probably) most of it. He was tight with the Mages Guild - enough that they often used his knowledge to their own pursuits; And he enlisted the help of the Hero of Kvatch to find a cure for vampirism so he could cure his wife, because he was smart enough not to pursue the cure himself to avoid drawing attention to his vampirism. Who knows, maybe he's _still_ Count of Skingrad.
Mat Leiras Xavier “I serve Count Janus, as did my father, grandfather, great grandfather, great great grandfather.... wait a second...”
I'm so glad someone mentioned Janus Hassildor. He's definitely a overlooked character by most and he's a very interesting and clever individual. Definitely one of my favorite Elder Scrolls characters.
I doubt it. Skingrad was rode like a mule in the Great War.
@@InsaneMarcus I liked him. He was highly intelligent.
His still count of Skingrad
My character in morrowind. After drinking a few potions.
Also strongest and most agile, and everything else
@@heinzgrigori4628
Geralt of Rivia who?
I'm sure that honour goes to Sigurd. After all, he works for Belethor, at the General Goods store.
What about Jagar Tharn? He actually imprisoned Uriel Septim and impersonated him for a loooong time. Seems like a smart dude.
Didn't he impersonate Uriel for at least two Elder Scrolls games before being found out?
@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 Depends what you consider "being found out" by the public, or by anyone. I think it was 10 years total. Sure, he was discovered eventually but it's pretty impressive to impersonate the emperor for that long!
@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 for two? I only know about the first main game TES Arena. In Daggerfall it's already the real emperor
He Impersonated the emporer for 10 years the plot of arena is that 10 year period where the player character travels all across tamriel to stop him.
@@dagothur8866 Oh. I thought he managed to remain in power into Daggerfall, where he would then be ousted by the end of Daggerall.
Well, of course i know him, he's me.
Take my pointing upward thumb
@@hoguemusic9706 Thanks, i will give you mine.
hello there !
Lol!
@@T.H.0601 General Kenobi!
Who is the dumbest person in the Elder Scrolls?
Answer: Nazeem for mocking me for not being at the cloud district. Now he's 10 feet under.
I don't get why everyone hates Nazeem. He really isn't that bad just arrogant. Maven black briar is far worse. Hell even Balgruuf's kids are worse than Nazeem.
@@azraelravenstar6616 Nazeem is more often encountered than the others. He has both a combination of annoyance and frequency of encounters
6 feet under not 10.
Maven is sadly an issue there is no answer to. An undefeatable villain we can do nothing to harm
Nazeem’s not dumb he’s just an asshole
Maiq the Liar is the smartest character. After all he is all-knowing and immortal. :P
SnowHive only reason why he looks different is because he regenerates the same way Time Lord’s do. by now he’s on his third regeneration.
I thought he was like the phantom passed the title down so it seems like he's immortal
@@SexyPug You have to believe. :P
Isn't there evidence that it's just 3 generations of fathers naming their sons the same name each time.
@@SSad-hy7we well one bit of evidence is they look completely different from each other
Obviously is M'aiq. He knows that he is in a game, breaks the 4th wall (mentioning the mechanincs and easter eggs) and he is inmortal (the timespam between the games is huge). Skooma gives you power
Actually, each M'aiq is the child of the previous one.
M'aiq the son of M'aiq from a long line of M'aiq gets me every time
Moon sugar is a hell of a drug.
People still making quality skyrim content after 8 years, the elder scrolls is truly something special
@Zelda Henson more like the top brass is too busy trying to sell zenimax
I feel like Uriel Septim VII deserves a mention, if only for sending 3 player characters in a row where they needed to be. He sent a friend to Daggerfall to figure out a haunting, (haven't finished it yet, don't spoil it) sent a prisoner to Morrowind who became the Nerevarine, and let a prisoner out, when the blades wanted to leave them, and they kinda stopped the Oblivon Crisis. Whether he was guided by the stars or not, those are still some impressively good decisions
The smartest person is definitely Sotha Sil, his inventions are legendary
That boy made a world
I Used the heart to Create the heart
You could argue that Vivec is smarter, because he achieved CHIM, while the other two members of the Tribunal didn't.
You have to be pretty intelligent to realize... well... you know.
@@LabTech41 while yes, you need to have strong sanity in order to not get zero summed, but i don't think it was very smart of vivec stopping a giant rock and telling everyone that if people stop worshiping him, he'd let the said rock destroy the whole city, also the said city is named after him which can be confusing if someone is talking about the city or the god-like elf
You also could argue that tiber septim/talos is also the smartest since he also achieved CHIM
@@Cappuccino_Rabbit Understand that for those who achieve CHIM, their perspective on the world fundamentally changes, and as such their behavior would change accordingly.
It's no accident that those who get there are no longer present in the affairs of Tamriel: the confines of a single world bore them, and so they move on to higher planes.
I'd say falion is pretty high up there,
He's the only known mortal to cure vampirism by the time of skyrim (from the information given to the player)
He also is clearly very knowledgeable with the daedra and aedra claiming he's met some.
Not to mention he's clearly traversed the plains of oblivion considering he's the only human alive to have met a dwemer at the time of skyrim.
I think it really comes down to three possibilities: Sotha Sil, Divayth Fyr, or Kagrenac.
Talos didn't need to be intelligent to mantle Lorkhan or achieve CHIM. He needed a truly massive ego.
Sotha Sil was also a god and managed to create truly unparalleled (even by the Dwemer) technological marvels.
Divayth Fyr was covered in your video.
Kagrenac was a genius who nearly managed to create an artificial god in Numidium, thwarted in the end by the First Council. But not for a lack of intelligence!
Hermaeus Mora is the Daedric Prince of knowledge and memory, i think he wins
Hermaeus Mora is the most wrong answer you can give, for one simple reason. Hermaeus Mora himself stated that he cannot create knowledge only steal it.
@@Ice-xl6gy If you were to "steal" all the knowledge in the universe, would you not be intelligent? Wouldn't you then be all-knowing?
What's the difference between stealing knowledge and just learning?
Ice What does that even mean lmao. No one creates knowledge, you learn it. Like anyone else.
@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 You don't have to know the knowledge when you steal it. You just have to know what to look for. Mora essentially has Wikipedia access. He can know everything, but he has to look it up online first. That's how I understood it.
Imagine it like you keep buying books that interest you yet you never read them. But because they are great books you still keep them.
@@johnbishop9621 That's a reasonable explanation I guess. Although likening it to Wikipedia means that he's still all-knowing, but he thinks a bit slower; and likening it to having a bunch of books that you don't read would imply that he simply doesn't recall the knowledge in those books.
I wouldn't call it stealing knowledge, but this is probably the best explanation I've heard about old Hermaeus yet.
Very few of these are "intelligent", more so successful in their field. None of these come close to the likes of someone like *Kagrenac* .
I disagree, history has merely recorded that he was gifted with tonal arts, He is the primary suspect for the disappearance of all but one of the Dwarves after all. An intelligent person wouldn't have tried to mess with an item capable of damaging time itself.
@Robinson Papo If you mean zerosumming,
the dwemer didnt as zero summing means complete erasure of everything you were, are and will be and everything you ever did will be reversed.
Noone wouldve remembered the dwemer and there obviously wouldnt be dwemer ruins.
@@lucienlachance8500 Not exactly. If it was complete erasure then people in-game wouldn't know what zero-summing is, and as the book "et'Ada, Eight Aedra, Eat the Dreamer" says that the moth priest that reached zero-sum left his knowledge in a spore-dream. Meaning that zero-sum is more of the erasure of the person but the actions still happened.
Truth is, no one knows what happened to the dwemer, they may have become the skin of numidium as per word of MK ( en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Made_Up_Word_Round_Up ), they may have zero-summed or something else, though if Falion's dialogue is to be believed they may be in some plain of oblivion.
How could you forget my guy Shalidor :'(
I'd say Divayth Fyr considering he's over 4000 years old he's probably picked up a tonne of knowledge
Hands down smartest. If he actually wrote books and shared his knowledge, then tamriel would be drastically changed. By now he pretty much should know about everything.
As Savos Aren says regarding learning magic:
“What you learn here will serve you well for a lifetime. Several, if you’re talented.”
He also temporarily defeated nocturnal in her own oblivion realm. Fyr is the most powerful mortal in tamriel, magic users will always be at the top of the list.
I'd urge everyone to read "The Doors of Oblivion" as I believe it tells the story of one of the smartest and most accomplished person in history: Morian Zenas. Should definitely make the list here. He has reached the planes of every Daedric Prince and finally settled in Hermaeus' plane. I wonder what became of him.
Not all daedric planes, he went to the Ashpit, Coldharbour, Moonshadow, Quagmire and Apocrypha
He succumbed to the curse of apochrypha and became a seeker like all who lingered there too long too hungry for knowledge
One of my favorite books in the Elder Scrolls games is the light armor skill book “The Rearguard.”
My man in the book may be one of the smartest characters in the series. He not only managed to troll an entire army single-handedly with nothing but a shipment of netch leather, he spent his free time between attacks reading the whole damn castle library-including the law books.
Fast forward a LONG time, and the invading army is brought to a truce when the castle lord finally returns with reinforcements. Keep in mind that a single virtually unarmed bosmer has been holding the keep on his own while venturing out at night to harass the invaders and steal supplies. The invaders are convinced he’s some kind of ghost or something because they can’t seem to hurt him on the rare occasions they even find him.
When the castle lord tries to screw him over and deny the badass his pay for holding out single handed for like a year (because he snuck into the orchard and ate some apples), our boy claps back with a clause from the law books about abandoned castles and residency laws-basically, abandoned castles become the property of the occupant if the lord is gone for more than a set amount of time.
The king finds in favor of the bosmer merc, who is then made lord of the castle. It stays in his family.
There's also Immortal Blood where a vampire hunter called Movarth sought to learn all he could about the different vampire clans from a knowledgeable priest.
He'd ask about a clan, go a'hunting and report back any inaccuracies that would've surprised a less prepared person. Because vampire hunters cannot afford to be surprised.
Both parties learned from each other about the capabilities of the different clans and how to counter them. Eventually, he wanted to know about the vampires of Cyrodiil, who were said to be indistinguishable from mortals when fed and thus impossible to locate. After a month of searching, he returned tired with nothing to show for it.
That was when the priest took him by surprise and turned him into the Movarth we see in Morthal.
@@Xenobears That's awesome wish I had read that book
What about Mai’q the Liar, a true being of wisdom!
There has to be a relation between Tiber Septim’s relationships with two Shezzarines, Wulfharth and Zurin, and his manteling of Lorkan. He used their hearts/life energy to power the Numidium, which had the ability to alter reality and could’ve made the 3 of them the new Lorkan aka Talos. For him to just “achieve Chim” and mantel himself seems far too simplistic of an explanation.
I can't remember the specifics but it absolutely was the 3 of them that became talos
Zaric Zhakaron explains it well in one of his lore videos
Obviously Nazeem, he's clearly smart enough to know you don't get to the cloud district very often.
Talos became a God by means of an Enantiomorph, through which he mantled Lorkhan. He didn't just "use" CHIM to make himself Lorkhan. That would be too profound a change and would cause the Dreamer to expel him from the dream. We don't know much about CHIM, but if the user of it tries to change too much then they cease to exist, as if they zero-summed.
dreamer isn´t canon.
@@ichbinjasokreativ2452 your dick isnt canon
I really dislike the godhead theory, if its all the dream, none of it matters.
@@rjjacob101 welcome to nihilism
Haven't seen the video yet, but I'm going to guess Hermaeus Mora, the daedric prince of knowledge, just kinda makes sense.
Thing about Hermaeus Mora, is it's hard to tell if he's really that smart for a daedric prince, or if he just collects books.
Not a person
@@publiusdraco2557 it would be hilarious if Herma Mora was stupid as hell, but just loved collecting books and using words he doesn't understand to sound smart.
@@publiusdraco2557 He's the hipster Daedric Prince. I once saw him sitting at one of the Cafés in Solitude Harbor that was next to a Library, that didn't exist there before that moment.
@@Moshthun I've heard people point this out before, he may be able to recite volumes of data, but not actually able to comprehend it in any meaningful way. It's similar to how he apparently has no interest in Elder Scrolls is an interesting wrinkle.
What about Kagrenac, Sotha Sil or Shalidor?
we dont know enough of what happened to sotha to make that arguement. All we know is he was researching dwarven tech when he "died"
@@JayVon_Ro We encounter Sotha Sil several times in ESO. He is portrayed as something akin to Doctor Manhattan - obsessed with knowledge, but at the same time trapped by time, as he can see the entirety of his existence from beginning to his own end.
Ivan he was mentioned in the video tho...
also shalidor is just another name for Lorkhan. We know what happened to him. *edit had wrong name
@@JayVon_Ro wait... Kargranec is Lorkhan? Isn't he the Drawven King? Who took Keening and Sunder and stabbed the Heart of Lorkhan? Won't that mean he basically stabbed himself
Or is this some other Kargranec
It’s Neloth.
Finally somebody noticed
I thought of Neloth too. He should definitely be on this list above Sybille Stentor.
Sotha Sil tho
I would say that Neloth is also a very intelligent person. He seems a bit clumsy to be fair but nonetheless he has some serious magical experiences
You mentioned that Sybil Stentor was working with the high king and the current jarl for 2 decades. It was much longer than that, she mentioned that she was appointed to her position by the last high king as soon as he was appointed to that position and even helped raise him from birth. So her manipulation goes well beyond what you stated in the video, she could have been involved for 60 years depending on the age of the last two high kings.
Septimus signus,he literally became so smart he knew he was in a game,so the game deleted him and he god incinirated.
Hermaeus mora ? Is literally the daedric prince of knowledge
@@malachaicarter4338 Herma Mora lowkey is the smartest Daedric Prince in my opinion ( I personally think he tricked the Dwemer and caused their disappearance) After him would be Meridia, Azura and Mehrunes Dagon
@@elmulato7038 Sheogorath is lowkey the smartest Daedric Prince imo
What about Miraak, Master Neloth, Septimus Sigmus, and the Dragonborn?
what ABOUT them?
Master Arngeir
@@bucky90269 him too
@@bucky90269 Definitely not Arngeir. What sticks out to you that makes him seem intelligent? All he does is live by Jurgen Windcaller's teachings of the Way of the Voice and lead the Greybeards.
@@French408 Really? Pretty sure he is one of the wisest characters in the game. He warns the DB about the Blades and knows that they are blind pawns who only live to serve the empire.
He also chooses to stay out of the civil war conflict because he knows that it is petty and that nothing good is going to come from taking a side.
He also warns the DB that learning to speak in the dragon tongue is a huge responsibility and tries guiding him so he doesn't turn bad like Miraak.
And ya I'd say that anyone who devoted their entire life to learning and living like a monk has a vast knowledge of the world...
A better question. Why do you think he is unintelligent?
Thank you for making these videos! I find them highly inspiring. They analyze the good writing Bethesda does, and the bad. Hopefully someone from Bethesda Games Studios are watching these videos and learning from them. Thumbs up!
Divayth fyr, Sotha sil or maybe a member of the psjiics
Sheogorath, despite his madness, is pretty smart. He may not be a huge academic, but he is incredibly clever and at times unpredictable.
Cheese for everyone🧀👍
at times unpredictable?
Who could have ever predicted him to successfully plan around and put an end to the Greymarch, or take a vacation inside a dead madman's subconscious? There seems to be no limit to what he can do if he wants to.
@@Crow_Rising So true
Dyvaith fyr is the oldest morthal in tamriel.
Knight paladin gelebor: hold my initiate ewer
its nowhere said that gelebor lived when the nord invaded. remember, the vale was overrun by falmer as they are now, meaning that it happened thousands of years after the atmorans conquered skyrim and gelebor and his brother could have just been born in the vale.
Wot
@@ichbinjasokreativ2452 I mean, Gelebor's brother created the prophecy of Auriel's Bow. Written in an elder scroll...
@@ichbinjasokreativ2452 but he said he remembers, that the Snow Elves took the deal of the Dwemer, which wasn't too long after the nords conquered skyrim, so he was alive back then
@@tintinlchevreau1135 he doesn't say that he remembers it as in "I was there when it happened", he could've just been told as much by his parents/teacher.
Obviously Hermaeus Mora, he's the Daedric Prince of _KNOWLEDGE_ after all.
8:22 Should be noted, however, that it was actually the Greybeards who instructed him to unite Tamriel and forge an empire.
Maiq da lair my man. Smarter then any daedra or divine. He even drinks skooma for optimal division powers.
Video idea: Mehrunes Dagon won in Oblivion
How did he win
I'm excited for the next video ;)
It's insane how far down you have to scroll to find a serious answer.
I love it
after you stop potema from being resurrected, sybille will start to just sleep all the time, people have said this could be because she was somehow involved with Potema and all her energy ended up drained afterwards. Also considering she's the first to tell Elisif that her scrying has found nothing in the area and discourages her from investigating fully
Speaking of Talos, it would be good to see a full video on your interpretation of what exactly Talos is, as well as an analysis of The Arcturian Heresy. Most people don't realise that Talos is a lot more complex than Tiber Septim simply mantling Lorkhan, Taos is an enantiomorph of several heroes- Hjalti Earlybeard, Ysmir Wulfharth, Zurin Arctus the Battlemage and Underking, as well as Tiber Septim the lad himself. Perhaps the best depiction I've ever seen of what Talos may be is this Venn diagram i.imgur.com/Sx0Gkfw.png
This is quite helpful. I knew he was 3 guys but the visual representation helps in understanding it.
What about Sotha Sil, he was once a mortal chimer who turned himself in a God and now studied for centuries he should be quite smart
I think lydia because she has discovered a way to keep even the dragonborn inside a room better than all of the prison cells in tamriel
Lorkhan is considered the god of mortals right? As in, the god of men?
Shor is the nordic version of Lorkhan IIRC
Talos is called "the true god of man" (aka. the true god of mortals)
Taking this into account, could it be that Tiber Septim mantled Lorkhan/Shor by becoming the first one to unite Tamriel being a man (instead of a Mer), essentially elevating men as the true rulers of Tamriel, so if he not only achieved CHIM, but was also considered the Emperor of Tamriel, and also the ruler of mankind, could it be that he basically filled the role of Shor?
It's just a hipothesis and I think it may have several holes, but hey, just a thought that came to mind
he ruled all mankind, he had godlike power through CHIM, the mortal tiberseptim/talos/hjalti was a shezarrine, the god talos was an oversoul of three shezarrines, potentially all three were betrayed and had their heart(soul) ripped out to serve as a powerful artifact and power the numidium in alternate timelines. (the activation of the numidium caused a dragonbreak in daggerfall, the creation of the mantella and activation of numidium back in tiber's day certainly did so as well}.
talos isn't just so much like lorkhan that he mantled lorkhan, for all intents of fate reincarnations history power position and more he simply IS lorkhan.
Given that the dragonborn is probably a Shezarrine and that the ghost of old hroldan sees you as Tiber Septim you're certainly on the right path.
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Huh... interesting connection you found there, this is actually starting to make sense.
You are also Ysmir and Dragonborn, canonically a nord.
All that plus the fact that you have saved the world, of, you know... MORTALS might mean that the LDB really is a shezzarine, which considering that someone who KNEW Tiber Septim think that you (the LDB) are him, it actually makes sense
Edit: It makes sense that Talos might be Shor making these connections
@@orthranus3352 dragonborn is an aspect of akatosh, not of lorkhan.
Nice hipothesis
Couldn’t it be Yagrum the only known living Dwemer in the elder scrolls?
i think paarthinax should be up here. He was able to overcome his evil nature and practically save all mankind by teaching them the ways of the voice. He is also has a very objective personality, something a lot of npcs lack.
Avarti: Who is the smartest person in the Elder Scrolls?
Also Avarti: This is a trick question. The answer is no one since they are all idiots and also you should never side with any of them because I will explain why.
The way you say calecemo is making me feel like you’re trying to sell me calcium. It’s pronounced cal-cell-mo
the way you write "calcelmo" is giving me headache
Markus P. I know it’s just to help pronunciation
“Mannimarco is undeniably highly intelligent, becoming the first ever lich”
Dragon priests: Am I a joke to you?
They are fodder
Jesus, I knew at this rate of upload, you would come up with this kind of video.
Any good videos on explaining the true nature of the Aedra? I was kind of surprised to hear that they aren't what they seem.
I think M’aiq is actually the second coming of Alkosh The First Cat.
The smartest person gotta be rhe bandit that knows im a merciful man, and keeps on screaming "i give, i give, you've won!"
Isn't that a fake-out, though?
@@ModdingNewbie Yeah, they always get back up. I really wish they were sincere sometimes.
Sothal sil created a massive city using shrinking magic, mastered dwarven tech even more so than the dwarves themselves, headed multiple massive magic organizations including the pyjic order, along with his cyborg mages in the clockwork city and built unbelievably powerful enemies and robots, not to mention constantly outsmarting dadric princesses.
speaking of falmers in the beginning, if we dissect a dead falmer and slit the eyes, are we going to see eyeballs? or just empty eye sockets?
I have created a theory: the snow elves made up the term “dwemer” and created all this themselves
They aren’t blind or dumb those are just the hybrid falmer x frost troll children used as guards and all of the actual falmer/snow elves just hide whenever somebody enters their cities
But i think you can actually see a dwemer in morrowind
Yes, as ghosts and there's Yagrum Bagarn of course.
Huh, that's a weird way to pronounce Mahiq.
Magnus, Lorkhan, the Godhead, Hermaeus Mora, Sheogorath, Sithis, and Vivec all have a good chance of taking that title if we are talking about any thing mentioned in the lore, but if we are talking about "mortals" Tiber Septim, Divayth Fyr ,and Dagoth Ur have a good running.
What about neloth of house telvanni? Tracking and making copies of black books, and he still seems to not piss off Hermaeus, one of few who know how to enchant new staffs, and actively resisted Mirrak's influence without even registering the mental attack because of his superior mind...
Could a mortal become a god by gaining the Heart Of Lorkan then use that power to absorb the power of even more magical, aedric & daedric artifacts and be powerful enough to challenge the Nine Divines and absorb their power and gain even greater power?
Not really but also kinda.
You see he was incorrect about Chim. The process of taking on the aspect of a divine is actually called mantling while chim is becoming a true god.
You see the entire TES universe takes place within the sleeping godhead. When you mantle you basically act so much like a devine you trick the godhead into thinking you are and then you become them. This is how the Hero of Kavatch from TES IV becomes Sheagorath. Talos did do this but he also acheived chim which is acheived through, from what we can tell, massive ego but also something else we don't know. When you acheive it you gain knowledge of the godhead and can now reshape reality, but if you fail to acheive it you cease to have ever existed.
Also Talos never had the heart himself making his Nimidium weaker and he did ascends higher than the divines with chim anyways so the items don't seem to be that important.
Notifihkiin...
Notification squad-born
8:18 I would argue that him uniting the continent with help from advisers shows MORE intelligence than doing so without. This is because not only does it show a knowledge that he understood his weaknesses but also understood that it would be less likely that mistakes would be made.
Uriel septim is undoubtedly one of the most brilliant minds in Tamriel, he did so many maneuvers to help the world and the empire in his 60 years of ruling
which 1 thoo
Mankar was perhaps intelligent, but undeniably insane.
He needs to do some fact checking though.
The warp in the west is the event where every daggerfall ending is canon. So mannimarco is a god and a mortal. There is twi mannimarcos in the universe until you kill the lich version in oblivion. The god manninarco yet lives however, as his power is the only thing that can create black soulgems.
Also a correction on chim and mantling. Chim is the realization that the universe and oneself is just a dream, and in the face of this reality, say that one is real as well. These contradictory ideas properly balanced allows one to bend the dream, thus the universe to their will.
Mantling on the otherhand is the act of becoming so much like a particular god, the universe will transform you into that god. And this can happen without the persons knowledge or intent as well. To mantle a deity, you must take on their aspects and have circumstances and behaviors that mirror it and lastly you must complete a prerequisite task or state of being to complete your apotheosis, like losing your heart, betraying your allies and contain the soul of the doom driven hero to mantle lorkhan, this is how wulfhart, tiber and arctus became a single entity when they became talos.
So chim is lucid dreaming, mantling is the universe mistaking you for a god and thus bending reality to make you into that god.
What about The Arch-Mage Shalidor?!? His feats during and after the 1st Era are INSANELY epic!!!
I think that one dude in the mages college that was really close to finding out what happened to the dwemer he in my opinion was the closest but he disappeared like the dwemer
Why was Vivec not in this list sotha sil they were intelligent
Cause this guy is bais as fuck and nows very little of what smart-/-intelligent means
The tribunal is some bitches
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Vivec was not that smart, I'd probably go with Sotha-Sil as one of the smartest in tamriel
@@xdarckstrack45 vivec achieved Chim lol. He was smart.
Wait manimarco became a freaking PLANET??
Whoaaaaah hold up when did this dead space bullshit start popping up all the sudden?
that part of TES lore is a bit weird:
when the gods created the mortal realm, their essence became part of it and they gave it form. Nirn is part of all divines, the other planets are embodiments of the gods themselves.
Masser and Secundas, the moons of Nirn, are both Lorkhan, them being separate resembles Lorkhan´s "death". Arkay is also responsible for a planet, which has it´s own moon, which supposedly resembles mannimarco, sometimes blinding arkay´s view of nirn and thus allowing better necromancy.
They´re not literally planets, the planets just embody their influence over the mortal realm.
contrary to popular belief, mannimarco also wasn´t the first lich, that title goes to the dragon priests we find in skyrim. they just didn´t achieve it by themselves.
Sotha Sil as presented in ESO - he is written in such a way that makes you feel as if talking to a higher being. His deterministic approach and intellect to actually see the causality between things... he also built the clockwork city
Sybille Stentor has been with the court for more than 20 years though. She was around when high king Torryg was a child. She helped raise him.
Torryg himself was stated to be quite young himself and only High King for a very brief reign before being killed by Ulfric. He was likely around the same age as his wife Elisif.
Me
Nazeem is the most smartest.
I'm going to name my son M'aiq. Anything he'll say, I can at any moment reply with, "you're lying."
Epiiiic!
The Smartest Person in all of the ESU is Avarti. The Lore Master of all!
Bruh
What about Neloth? :)
I think Master Neloth is a candidate just on the fact of how old he is. But if we where to say include gods they I believe hermaus mora would take the cake.
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There are no actual alternate timelines in The Elder Scrolls, only the one we play through, though there are many possible timelines that we can never learn about because they never become real. The reason that Mannimarco can be both the necromancer moon and an antagonist in oblivion is because the dragon-break made every possible timeline stemming from the events of Daggerfall real at the same time. Normally, Akatosh prevents this from happening, but certain events, namely the activation of the Anumidium, breaks the standard flow of time, allowing a dragon-break to occur
This is why each of the powers in high rock vying for control of Anumidium were able to acquire it, despite their only being one Totem of Tiber Septim and one Anumidium. The fracturing of time meant that each of those possible timelines becomes real simultaneously, creating the confusing situation where each of the major powers completely conquered high rock, and also for some reason swore fealty to the emperor.
The reason, then, why Mannimarco appears in oblivion despite his apparent apotheosis, is because both the timeline where he failed to ascend and succeeded at ascending became real, allowing both Mannimarco and the Necromancer Moon to exist concurrently.
M'aiq the liar is the smartest person in the elder scrolls, without any doubt.
Todd Howard. He figured out how to release a broken game and have people fix it for free
... without fixing it. Ever.
I was hopping to see Miraak in this video.
Divayth Fyr also helped save Sotha Sil in ESO: The Colckworck City.
You should do a video on why the tribunal are idiots if you haven't already!
i have a theory that every elder scrolls game has its own timelines, regarding most of the history happened on all of them
Only 30 seconds into the video, but I would have to say someone like Divayth Fyr. That dude is a true Master Wizard, surviving for many thousands of years, travels easily between Nirn and Oblivion planes, amasses hoards of priceless and powerful artifacts, clones himself and grows his tower wherever the hell he wants. He basically turned the Neravarine immortal by “curing” corpus, and even cares for the last surviving Dwemer!
My favorite smart character in TES? The bosmer merc from the light armor skill book “The Rearguard”