what if the F1 CHAMPION was BANNED like F2? A New History
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- I recalculated the entire history of the Formula 1 world championship with one small difference, what if you could only win it… once?
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00:00 I recalculated the entire history of F1
03:06 1950s
09:26 1960s
14:21 1970s
18:11 1980s - Авто та транспорт
now recalculate the elos with all these results 😂
Please no... I need to sleep 💀
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Ahh there's a part deux!!
@@MrVsGarage sleep is not necessary mr v
@@MrVsGarageSigmas don't sleep.
Nico Rosberg thought this was a real rule
And Mike Hawthorn. Scheckter and Hunt weren't too far off either, they mentally checked out, by their own admission.
Nigel
@@jesush.tap-dancingchrist7328 Slightly different as he didn't leave to stop racing; he asked for more money and wasn't given it, then they signed Prost so he took a year off.
He did return though in '94 & '95 so wasn't done with racing and didn't retire from F1 until sometime around 2016 (not kidding...)
I cant believe you didnt track 70 years of alternate driver transfers. Great video!
Just wait for the next video 😉
(but for real I can't barely predict the transfers for 1 year let alone 74)
What if a drivers champion was just ignored when calculating points for both championships? That feels like the simplest way to calculate constructors totals.
Well u got 1 less driver tonworry bout (alonso resigned with alonso martin)@@MrVsGarage
I would pay actual money to see what 74 years of driver transfers would look like in this universe 😂
@@belodie
Honestly the constructor’s table will look like utter madness, would love to see that
Lots of saved lives there. Senna, Peterson, Villeneuve, Rindt, de Angelis. Laffite doesn't break his legs. Lauda doesn't get burned. Regazzoni doesn't get paralyzed.
Cevert is another one, you’d imagine he woudn’t have been pushing that hard after guaranteeing the 1973 title win
To be honest, true racing drivers are built different, they don't have a slow mode
I'll cover this more in the next episode. This project brought up a lot more tragic stories than I thought it would
I'm not really sure about Ascari. Let's bear in mind he wasn't driving an F1 car on that fateful day at Monza. He borrowed a Ferrari 750 Sport from his friend and colleague Eugenio Castellotti. You'd argue that he made that attempt just to overcome the shock of his crash at Monaco few days before and that this specific crash would have never happened in this alternate universe. Still, with his system he would have been banned by F1, as he achieved his first title in 1952, but not by motor-racing as a whole. Especially for an informal session. That being said, I share with you all my hope that, at least in this parallel reality, the great Alberto Ascari did actually safely survive. He is deeply missed.
@@cirosanfilippo5627 You're right, I misremembered. It wasn't F1.
"You can no longer score points by sharing a car" *sad Williams noises*
Top tier comment 😂😂😂
@@MrVsGaragetop tier comment on a top tier video ❤
During a running race....
The only person seriously making original content in the F1 space. Love the outfits to match the decade.
Thank you, I got a costume designer on board for this one (who also happens to be my girlfriend)
So true! Love these videos, so much more effort put into them than anything else F1 related
peter brook?
RPM..
"And when I get bored, just like any normal person, I make Excel spreadsheets."
MY MAN! You know EXACTLY how I think. 🤣
I love the storylines in this, I love learning about the lesser-known non-champions of the past decades
Piquet’s struggle to win a title was especially unexpected 😂
Yeah it's crazy that you can miss out on 2 of your real titles. I was expecting a couple like Phil Hill or Keke Rosberg but not Piquet.
Glad I could shed some light on some driver who don't get talked about as much. F1 has a lot of history but obviously some names are a lot more famous than others
Obviously, Piquet voluntarily dropped back from 1st to 3rd in the final GP of 1983, because in reality that was all he needed to be champion. Presumably he wouldn't have dropped lower than 2nd in this alternative reality.
Mr. V is definitely the kinda guy I’d buy homework from
Wait you can.. sell homework? I get the whole way through school and NOW you tell me I could have been rich?!?
Oh not I wasn't counting on having to wait for part 2. This is actually nail biting stuff. And the sad stories are getting to me. Great job!
You could go through the effort yourself… Ive completely gone through 1990 and 1991 and half-heartedly done 1992 and 1993. It is a bit tedious, reclassifying every race and then adding up the points afterwards, so I can definitely appreciate the effort
What a great concept for a video. It makes you think about all the drivers who never had their moment of glory while competing alongside the all-time greats, and then, of course, the sad reality of fatal accidents when looking at these alternate timelines.
Thank you. There's so many amazing drivers in F1 history who often get overlooked, it's nice to talk about them for once
This video is amazing. I would never have the patience to do something like this. Mr.V is one of the few remaining F1 content creators still to have unique and original content.
thank you. And yeah I can confirm it takes way longer than is reasonable 😅 I lost my sanity a long time ago though so it doesn't really matter
Your green-screen work has improved a ton since the early videos (which I watched thanks to Tommo's Mystery F1 Creator link in one of his videos). Kudos Mr. V
Thank you. I've been able to spend a lot more time on them recently! And yeah Tommo is forever the GOAT the way he helps out smaller channels
Didn’t think Tommo could get any more based but apparently not
Would one only want to win Formula One one time, Juan?
Great video! I like that you put in the effort to tell the story of the season and races instead of just showing the end result. Excited for what the 90s will bring!
Thank you. Didn't make sense to just show some numbers on the screen, I thought it was only right to tell the story of a few people who don't always get a mention in F1 history
Pausing at the very beginning to suggest that, as someone who makes Excel Spreadsheets when bored, you missed your calling as a Williams engineer now that Vowles is moving to modernize.
Throwing an edit in here to add that I'm new to your channel and don't know your history, so if you are in fact a Williams engineer, congrats on a great career and I'm sorry that your favorite part about the job has been taken away from you.
Haha I was a vehicle engineer but not for Williams. Don't worry, despite the news stories, every company is still using A LOT of Excel so the opportunity is still there 😉
This is one of the best concepts/ videos I’ve seen on f1 in a while, throughly enjoyed it. Thanks for making it, can’t wait for part 2
Well, I had expected this to be interesting, and it was! I hadn't expected to feel a little emotional with the posthumous winners, and the winners who avoid future accidents. Excellent video, 10/10, would watch again.
well there's a part 2 coming soon if you fancy it... 👀
I love these recalculation videos
I'm glad! They take absolutely ages 😅
@MrVsGarage no one else does anything like this from what I've seen. You could make this YOUR niche and build a strong fan base and following off of it if they perform to your liking, in my eyes :). It's rare to find someone doing something entirely original online these days.
Lmaoooo The fact that all g.hill had to do was survive the races and not crash the car, Ik there was obviously a lot of skill back then to do that since the cars were gripless but still, just amazing to think, Once again the mad man brings a Banger ! Keep it up big guy, you're doing awesome !
I suppose Graham Hill was kinda quick as well... but yeah I had to do a double take that it took 10 years for someone to actually drive a whole season
@@MrVsGarage Same reaction on my end too
You always ask the questions that i can never think of and watching you figure out the answer is truly a joyful part of my life
Haha glad I can bring some joy. I sacrifice my own sanity so you guys don't have to
When you mentioned Boutsen being in the running for the title, I genuinely said out loud "F*ck off!"
Which resulted in a slightly embarrasing conversation with my wife! 😂
Haha you're welcome 😉
And maybe he won’t just compete as in 1990 it will be either him or mansell who would be crowned champion in this experiment
You're a madman. And I love it. 👏👏👏
Thank you Mr Tommo 🫶
This is bloody amazing! Kudos to you for yet another great video.
The dedication is amazing man, genuinely love these videos!
Love these crazy videos dude. I like how you address the flaws/nuances in the data. Nice little touches.
I'm here for the stories, those are what make F1 great
this was brilliant. can't wait for part 2
You put soo much effort into these videos... Appreciated 👍🏻
yeah man this one took a while, glad you like it 😀
Glad I found this channel early, great video bud!
earned a sub with this video can’t wait for part two 😄
the amount of work you have done for this video is just amazing. To recalculate some 10x races every year for few years is incredible when also the number of races go up almost every year. Big Salute for this kinda content, I thought it would be boring because you started in the 1950s( bc for me I honestly don't really know any drivers before 2000) but it was super interesting to watch. Keep it going man
Fantastic as always. Can’t wait until you finally get super big on here, it’s only a matter of time.
thank you. That would be cool, let's see what the fututre brings...
This is amazing! I loved it. When part 2? 😮
You really did us dirty with the part 2 here. Cant wait for the next video!
Treat 'em mean keep 'em keen 😉
why would you do this to yourself?
my therapist asks the same question
Fantastic stuff, thanks.
And an idea for a future video: multiple champions per year. Plenty of times when a season ends, there is always talk of someone "deserving" a title more than the actual champ. Well, what if you could have two or three champions for some seasons? Like 2014 both Hamilton and Rosberg, 2006 both Alonso and Schumacher (as Schumacher arguably lost the title with the engine failure). Purely subjective and not at all controversial topic, but should make for fun speculation and seeing someone like Prost grab 10 titles would be interesting.
Another amazing video, I love it!
Thank you 🫶🫶
I am so jazzed for this.
So happy to have discovered your videos.
I like the way to present it. Focusing on the stories and the quirks. It's very engaging.
This is awesome! Dude your vids have the spirit of Jon Bois behind them.
Thank you, that's high praise.
I was tempted to make this one HUGE 1hour+ chart party style thing but then I remembered I have no idea how to go those graphics
This is some next level story telling.. can’t wait for part 2
this is amazing!!
New to the channel, but this... Is is delightfully mad. Looking forward to how this wraps up
Great video Mr V :)
Thank you 😄
Awesome video again! As someone who has watched the sport since 1970 it is good that people learn the history people ,cars and the drama!
Wow… the amount of effort u put in this video is astonishing.. uve gained a sub
Thank you!! :)
This idea is utterly fantastic
Thank you. I'm not the first person to think about this question but I like to think I put by far the most effort into answering it haha
we're waiiting for part 2!
You get very thoughty when you experiment. Loving it, ta.
I feel pretty thoughty all the time, just nice to find some people who are willing to listen to my ramble
@@MrVsGarage If you build it, they will come. Or get mildly aroused, but still worth it!
Your storytelling part is great! I guess now I will spend my next week reading through Wikipedia about drivers like Beltoise. Can't wait for part two
There are many Jean-Pierre's in the sport's history and they all have an interesting story, would recommend
Part 2!!!! But I want it now! Incredible vid
I'm editing as fast as I can!!! 😬
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Amazing work and thank you to your determination with the Excel spreadsheets.
haha you're welcome, I secretly love Excel so I don't mind at all (I guess it's not that secret)
Great vid!
now you need to recalculate the constructors championships! btw i love your content man keep it up
Cannot wait for part 2!
coming as fast as I can edit!
2 min in and im subbed. Amazing concept!
thank you 😀
I'm baffled to see how many seasons Piquet had to wait to become champion. Mansell too, I can't wait to watch part 2. Great stuff, very original and entertaining!
I literally have no idea how you can motivate yourself through all that data :) excel heros
Haven’t even left the 60’s and I liked and subbed… this amount of research is honestly a bit scary!!
Only seen this today after part 2 coming up as a suggestion and watching that. Very enjoyable amd interesting.
I once worked out if the old numbering system was still in use what the numbers would be like. Like you i did it cos i got bored one night and also prefereed the old numbering system.
Man I love this channel
thank you 😀
I got this video recommended and thought, is this the madman that had made the elos and all of that? You were!
If you see an F1 video that sounded like it took 3 weeks to make, yes it was me
11:50 - I did NOT expect to be hyped up by synth intro music for Sir Jackie Stewart like this was a WWE match man, that shit was great.
I'm also ashamed to admit that I didn't fully notice the constant outfit changes until the 70s. This video was great man, I appreciate you putting effort in and having fun with it :)
that's 4 outfits in 😂
also I strongly believe that every driver should have a WWE style intro at every race
@@MrVsGarage I am not a smart man...
Had to go back to check them out, lmao.
People dunk on Miami for all the cheesy "American culture!!!" Displays, but that's just because it's pretty obviously forced.
If they had max rev his way out of the garage and do a burnout while his meme song played, that shit would be hype as hell.
Let em choose their own little intro, get AC/DC thunderstruck going while like... Yuki walks onto the grid.
Hey, love your videos, great content! I had an idea couple of years ago: what if we calculated the champion of the year by the total distance covered? Alternatively would the outcome change if we add up race results? Eg. Senna won by 30s in Suzuka, but Prost won by 31 in Brazil? Would the outcome be different if you consider the finishing time for all drivers in all races?
I love theae types of videos my fav in the F1 community keep up the great work. Hopefully Leclerc Webber and Ricciardo all get a title
I take off my hat to you sir! Excellent work. Now, if you still feel bored after part two: do the same for Premier League and Eredivisie football 😀. In my country, only three clubs have won the cup (with only two exceptions) since the introduction of professional football in the Fifties. One over 30 times to date.
Haha that sounds like it's on a whole different level. How does it even work in football? You kick a team out but then what happens to the people who played against them?
Impressive Production Value Mr. V
great outfits do make for a great video 💪
I'll tell my Costume Designer she did a good job 🙌
I’m sorry Mr V. but you’re not the first one to do this. Someone on Reddit keeps track of this weekly with all data leading back to the start of championship. It’s called the elimination championship and has all spreadsheets available for free, including some fun stats such as new amount of wins, races before championship, etc.
Still I’m glad to get your take on it as your look at all stories is very fun and a lot more interesting than a load of spreadsheets.
I found that out yesterday tbh. It's a cool concept which honestly makes more sense written down so I imagine theirs is better, but as you say I was more interested in the story side of it
Oof. What a discovery Mr V. Imagine doing all of this legwork, then discovering someone else did it the day before you release the video.
@@Damann23 You're vastly underestimating the satisfaction of making Excel spreadsheets.
Fun fact: If you want to see the full title, go to Formula Points and go to simulator and go to team/driver selector, and ban the already champions on the year you want to simulate, and you have a full-detail version of this
If Gilles Villeneuve had won a championship in 1979 then retired, it would have prevented his tragic death during qualifying at the 1982 Belgian Grand Prix, and he would probably still be alive today in 2024, perhaps an F1 team owner at Villeneuve Autosports (a team which he sadly did not live to found).
So despite not being banned, Phil Hill does not win a title in this universe. Crazy!
I can't wait for part 2 now. 😅
This video is pure gold
what a good video, can’t wait to see the current grid
Great concept and looking forward to the next part.
Imagine what would have happened in situations where drivers collided with someone who would now be banned and how that could’ve shaken up the results. Similar to Ocon’s win in Hungary where Bottas (who I’m assuming wins a championship) is no longer around to take out a quarter of the grid.
You're bonkers. And very clever, and we loves it.
Don't know about clever...
really cool video, commenting to feed the algorithm gods.
Those gods in mysterious ways, thank you for your offering 🙏
It wasn't actually specified that a car needed to have four wheels until the 80s! Though only one six wheeler raced, as we all know
Basically the rules said "at least 4" up until that point, just to stop people turning up with motorbikes
this is so me... when I get bored... I make excel spreadsheets :-D
0:09 Ahhh, watching this after the Japanese GP and recalculating "Wait, does Japanese GP really happened 😮?"
Good vid you know how to spend your free time.
You saying the Swedish GP made me sad as a Swede. The dream would be that they built a new track and that we would get a Swedish GP again but thats probably not gonna happend
Tbh it can happen if someone in the country is willing to pay a lot of money. Without that though I don't see it for a long time
This is GOOD content.
@MrVsGarage I have an other idea for a long time:
Drivers are not connected to teams. Instead, they do the first 12 races in each teams. Then, the pilots with the most points will do the rest 12 races in the top 3 teams.
This way, no pilot will dominate for 5 years just because a team got one technical rule better than the rest. And we get to find out who is the best pilot. And the best team still wins.
As a spreadsheet fanatic, long time F1 lover and a fan of great videos I have to like this. We also need to know how many times Hulkenberg has been on the podium! This alternative time line might have a driver that never got the title and because of that participate in the most races end up being the stats leader on a lot of metrics. Will you release all the data?
I need the second part already
I NEED PART 2 AAA
Great video! Just spotted 1 little error. According to your own commentary Jackie Stewart and Clay Regazzoni would both have been the "first ever" rookie champion. I think you forgot your earlier mention of Jackie Stewart haha :P
Fascinating exercise! Here's my prediction for part 2:
1990: Mansell
1991: Alesi
1992: M. Schumacher (Sort of rookie)
1993: Hill
1994: Hakkinen
1995: Coulthard
1996: Villeneuve (Rookie)
1997: Frentzen
1998: Irvine
1999: R. Schumacher
2000: Barrichello
2001: Montoya (Rookie)
2002: Raikkonen
2003: Alonso
2004: Button
2005: Fisichella
2006: Massa
2007: Hamilton (Rookie)
2008: Kubica
2009: Vettel
2010: Webber
2011: Rosberg
2012: Grosjean (sort of Rookie)
2013: Perez
2014: Ricciardo
2015: Bottas
2016: Verstappen
2017: Ocon (sort of Rookie)
2018: Hulkenberg
2019: Leclerc
2020: Sainz
2021: Norris
2022: Russell
2023: Piastri (Rookie)
2024: Stroll
Very close, but a couple of these names are swapped out for some surprising ones...
i love how stroll just gets it due to the lack of competition :,d
@@MrVsGarage can't wait to see it! :)
Hey, love your work! Can you calculate a worldranking list like in tennis? So different races offer different amount of points and they get "deleted" the following year
Lessgo my fav creator!
Hell yeah 🫶
Loved this vid man, the story telling was great and even though i was tired and in bed watching this, it kept me up and invested. When it came to an end , I was so dissapointed that we have to wait for a part 2, but so excited! Earned yourself a sub from me, keep it up
Maurice Trintignant casually driving to a solo win then hopping in the other car to finish P2.
My headcanon is that's you're Bill Bailey's F1 obsessed progeny.
Sub'd.
I've never heard of this channel until now, but I am hooked for part 2
Welcome! Check back very soon 😉
Same here, this a quality
can't wait for part 2! im just eyeballing this, but hulkenberg might actually be champion in 2018
1954 GP winners:
Jose Froilan Gonzalez (Buenos Aires, Silverstone, Nordschleife, Bremgarten, Monza)
Bill Vukovich (Indy 500)
Maurice Tritignant (Spa)
Karl Kling (Reims)
Umberto Maglioli (Monza - shared with Gonzalez
Luigi Musso (Barcelona)
Point standings:
1. Gonzalez - 37,25 (41,25)
2. Tritignant - 28
3. Kling - 18
4. Mieres - 13
5. Herrmann - 12
6. Mantovani - 9
7. Bira - 9
8. Vukovich - 8
9. Moss - 6,25
10. Marimon - 6,25
11. Manzon - 6
12. Bryan - 6
13. McGrath - 5
14. Maglioli - 4
15. Bayol - 4
16. Schell - 3
17. Pilette - 3
18. Villoresi - 3
19. Wacker - 3
20. Godia-Sales - 3
21. Behra - 2,25
22. Wharton - 2
23. Rosier - 2
24. Collins - 2
25. Nazaruk - 2
26. Carter - 1,5
27. Ruttmann - 1,5
Just came across the video, awesome job!
Just wanted to point out you put a picture of the 1989 MP4/5 (notice the airbox) instead of the 1988 MP4/4.
Crap!! Never would have known if you hadn't pointed that out, the picture was tagged as 1988.
Well, at that wasn't driven either as Prost Senna were still banned so the point is still half correct.
Great video, but the image at 21:50 is not of MP4/4, it's MP4/5 that's shown there.
I know, shhhhhh, I couldn't find one of the MP4/4 with both the drivers
damn i need to see your excel sheets