@@Gunslinger8912 There's another settlement that needs our help. I hope you can get to them quickly. We need to show people that the Minutemen are back
The Crow is one of the most tragic after effects of Destiny’s story telling. His story starts really with Forsaken and Uldren’s Death which is gone, and then all of his storylines are in seasons which have / will be vaulted. He’s one of the most well-developed characters story-wise but it’s just totally missing to most players
@Sypitz Have you seen Elric in any media other than books and comic books. It's a nice reference and if people pay attention, an accessible introduction to the Elric saga.
I hate crow with a passion, exceptni dont think about him much. Such a weak character. Unlikeable. He talks to me in the tower and I'm like "fckoff crow"
Remember, though ahamkara feed on the difference in what was wished and what was granted, it does not have to be negative. Riven learned this from her mate and I think she may actually return Cayde-6 out of kindness.
I kind of love the writing of that if it is influenced by Riven granting Crow's wish, particularly if she did so benevolently. Cayde was killed as the result of Riven manipulating Uldren. Now Cayde is revived by the same thing.
Wouldn't surprise me if the first thing Cayde does on sight of Crow is to shoot him. But we know that Crow is around, so I guess he got his chance to say sorry.
@@mafu290 Why? Crow has a ghost so even when Cayde shoots him Glint will bring him back. And that would have even more potential, like Cayde sees his murderer and shoots him, sees a Ghost bringing him back, which in turn shows Cayde that Crow is not Uldren since Guardians loose their memories and then Cayde helps Crow on his feet after Glint pulled him back.
Watch Cayde upon meeting him be like :”Oh, you’re a Hunter now? Guess that makes you Hunter Vanguard then. Can’t decline, it’s written clearly in the will. Have fun!”
I can't understand WHY they even killed cayde off IN THE FIRST PLACE,,,?????? 😕😕😕😕😕😕😕 EVERY ONE LOVED CAYDE. ,,,👍♥👍😊♥👍😊♥👍😊👍♥👍😊♥👍 i know i sure did,,, 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Amazing! I haven't played since Forsaken but always wondered how Cayde-6 made a return. To find out it was an Ahamkara wish is a brilliant bit of lore/writing. Thankyou for sharing ❤
Let's be honest, they are bringing Cade back because he's the most popular Destiny character and they're in The dumpster when it comes to their fanbase.
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Riven impersonating Mara and Crow to not notice it is a huge plot hole in my opinion. Isn't that great Brother-Sister-Connection the sole reason why Crow is the one who was send through the portal? If this connection is this strong to be felt through that portal and all how did he not notice that it was not Mara he spoke to?
I guess that old quote is true no body stays dead in modern media and its true for destiny making cayde death meaningless if your going to bring him back
Appreciate the breakdown on this. As someone who is genuinely not excited about Cayde-6 return i think this context is helpful. I still feel like bringing back Cayde (even if this is the end of this saga in the game) feels gimmicky/nostalgia bait. At the end of the day we will have to play TFS to see how Bungie handles the storyline but definitely super low on my priority list in terms of what im looking for from TFS.
And I appreciate this comment. When I first saw the reveal for cayde coming back I was like yeah I suppose that's cool. Bit of nostalgia. But I definitely wasnt hyped as so many people are. Hopefully he's not back for good finish whatever story is to tell in the final shape and just leave it at that
My guess is that since Riven was already dead and could not be restored, and Ahamkara feed on granting wishes, that powerful wish spoken from the deepest emotion of a regretful guardian, could have been used to feed one of, if not all of, her found Ahamkara eggs and helped to hatch at least one of them, (again, if not all of them).
Hey Myelin, would rather have Cayde back as the Hunter Vanguard or do think Uldren should remain? Also, I do miss Cayde and the voice of Nathan Fillion since the passing of Lance Reddick as Commander Zavala, just for nostalgia reason I do miss the trio.
Fully expecting Crow to sacrifice everything in a way to bring Cayde back. Either by somehow giving his ghost to Cayde OR by changing places with Cayde. Or fully sacrifice his life in some deux ex machina situation that gives Cayde a new chance.
I love Crow’s story arc. I wish some of the beginning stuff was more front facing but it’s such a unique and sad situation he’s in. Really hope they have a good face to face talk in FS. Lot of build up there.
IMHO, the catch will not so much about Riven being benevolent or malicious... I think even Ahamkara do not posess the power that is required to overwhelm the Traveller or the rules inside of it. As many others have said, I imagine the catch is that Cayde will only exist inside there and will not be able to leave.
I'm thinking that the Vanguard Dare may come into play if Crow gets to have that conversation with Cayde. It feels like Bungie has been building Crow up to be the new Hunter Vanguard over time.
Looking at the crow and savathun cutscene again… below savathuns frozen body is the final shape triangle in the exact same color. Coincidence? Probably but curious if there’s any specific rime or reason to that.
There's evidence of ahamkara in the pale heart, seen in trailers and the name of an enemy in a prismatic trailer showcase. Crow has definitely wished for cayde to come back but theres no way of knowing if Riven has any influence over the Pale Heart itself. That being said she can wish someone into it. The only thing that makes me think wishing him back to life won't be how he returns is that its from a single Lore card in a seasonal story. Sure the seasonal lore has implications in the playable story (Torobatl mainly) but returning to 'key events happening only in Lore' seems like a step back
I've always been a believer that the inside of the traveller is where dead guardians go to (kinda like a Valhalla). I believe that this is how cayde-6 (and maybe others, such as Joxer) will be brought back into the game. I don't think that they will be able to leave the traveller when we do though, as technically the ones already inside the traveller are dead (if my theory is correct)
I think final shape my have a twist where crow will be given to choice by the travler to swap places with cayde at the end of the story giving crow the redemption he been seeking since his memorys came bk not sure how it will go down as i know crow has become a fan favourite for a lot of players cause he is just so beefy (his words not mine) lmao
I think there is a -1000% chance cause will be able to leave the pale heart. I think the wish brought him back to life completely, but the catch is that he only exists inside the traveler
Crow wished for cayde back and the consequence for the wish is he will have to be the hunter vanguard. Kind of how cayde lost a bet. He loses his ability to scout and be a free hunter.
crow/uldren is honestly one of the best written characters we have ever gotten its mad to think pepole are still blinded by the death of cayde to see it
Ah man I'm so on board with this comment. It's ridiculous the hate crow gets because he killed cayde when it wasn't even him. And tbh I like uldrin as a character before and killing cayde was a good storyline for destiny to go dark. It's sad people can't let go even tho it was like six years ago 🤦
I think when Crow made that wish as unintended as it was. Riven made it so he got that chance, Cayde was already in the pale heart, but Riven open a way and made it so only Crow could go, which would fullfill the wish. Not really sure what twist Riven put on it though.
I hope cyade comes back to the tower and isn’t just stuck in the traveler I hope they make him a vendor again and our hunter vanguard again why would you kill off the best character in destiny I hope we get to see cyade 6 back in the tower for good and not just in the campaign because that would be stupid he needs to come back and find a way to bring him back to life with a new ghost and have him live in the tower happily ever after like everyone else I want my hunter vanguard back
Yeah not gonna happen buddy. Would make his death pointless in forsaken. Feel like his just a memory like myelin is saying and he'll act like a guide for us. Hope he don't come back. Cuz it'll be the cayde show all over again. For me him dying gave other characters to develop and then room to introduce new characters like mithrax and caital.
@@John-nj6xl that would be stupid he was the best character in destiny ikora ray is a useless character so is Osiris everyone loved cyade people were so pissed when that happened he made destiny the hunters don’t even have a vanguard all the other characters arnt as funny or cool and interesting as cyade
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I've also returned to remind you that another settlement needs your help, I'll mark it on your map
That settlement seems awfully close to a Dunwich building.
@aceundead4750 that's why we are ready at a minutes notice
Cayde-6
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@@Gunslinger8912 There's another settlement that needs our help. I hope you can get to them quickly. We need to show people that the Minutemen are back
9:23 I still think that Cayde being a mad lad and slapping all the buttons might be the best non-interactive moment in D2.
The Crow is one of the most tragic after effects of Destiny’s story telling. His story starts really with Forsaken and Uldren’s Death which is gone, and then all of his storylines are in seasons which have / will be vaulted. He’s one of the most well-developed characters story-wise but it’s just totally missing to most players
Bungo cant fathom letting people keep the content they paid for, sorry, gotta go to youtube to get your in game lore
Why care about Crow’s lore when he’s just a copy/paste of Elric?
@Sypitz Have you seen Elric in any media other than books and comic books. It's a nice reference and if people pay attention, an accessible introduction to the Elric saga.
@@slorbonmyknorb777 Fun fact: You don't own a single game in your Steam library.
I hate crow with a passion, exceptni dont think about him much. Such a weak character. Unlikeable. He talks to me in the tower and I'm like "fckoff crow"
I think Crow wishing for Cayde to come back DID bring him back, but the ahamkara consequence is that he can't leave the pale heart
I wonder if it’s possible that it was the player guardians wish
Remember, though ahamkara feed on the difference in what was wished and what was granted, it does not have to be negative. Riven learned this from her mate and I think she may actually return Cayde-6 out of kindness.
So happy that you are stil making Destiny 2 videos myelin!
MYELIN LORE VIDEO ALERT. THROW THIS MAN SOME SUPPORT AND LOVE!
Crow wished for Clyde's return in the last season. Question answered
i bileve Cayde gouing pass the hunter leader role to Crow but before that happen they will have they guns aim at each other
@@Wolverine1992-z5mAs of yesterday, you nailed it.
@@CoxDiesel21 an werid is thing is i did not know if i was right an as you just say i was right
He’s returned, because Bungie needs money lol. The end lol.
Well that totally makes sense 🙄 you know, paying Nathan Fillion and all.
I kind of love the writing of that if it is influenced by Riven granting Crow's wish, particularly if she did so benevolently.
Cayde was killed as the result of Riven manipulating Uldren. Now Cayde is revived by the same thing.
Riven’s intervention seems the most likely given the recurring theme of old enemies turning into allies.
“I just *WISH* I could tell him I shouldn’t have done it.”
Wouldn't surprise me if the first thing Cayde does on sight of Crow is to shoot him. But we know that Crow is around, so I guess he got his chance to say sorry.
Waste of storytelling potential tbh. Cayde and Crow would be an interesting character dynamic.
@@mafu290 Why? Crow has a ghost so even when Cayde shoots him Glint will bring him back. And that would have even more potential, like Cayde sees his murderer and shoots him, sees a Ghost bringing him back, which in turn shows Cayde that Crow is not Uldren since Guardians loose their memories and then Cayde helps Crow on his feet after Glint pulled him back.
Nice, I hadn't thought of Cayde-6 being Crow's memory but it makes sense. See, this is why I watch your channel. Nice work.
Best in the biz. Miss your D2 content bro. Hope to have you back on the regular for TFS!
Im still waiting for crow to fulfill the dare !!
Watch Cayde upon meeting him be like :”Oh, you’re a Hunter now? Guess that makes you Hunter Vanguard then. Can’t decline, it’s written clearly in the will. Have fun!”
He already did. He was the only guardian rallying the hunters lazy asses
I can't understand WHY they even killed cayde off IN THE FIRST PLACE,,,?????? 😕😕😕😕😕😕😕 EVERY ONE LOVED CAYDE. ,,,👍♥👍😊♥👍😊♥👍😊👍♥👍😊♥👍 i know i sure did,,, 👍👍👍👍👍👍
he's back because they want to sell the shitty expansion
Holy moly! This is a spicy reveal in regards to that ship lore. Thank you m'lord
...why is super activation bound to W? 2:46
Amazing! I haven't played since Forsaken but always wondered how Cayde-6 made a return. To find out it was an Ahamkara wish is a brilliant bit of lore/writing. Thankyou for sharing ❤
Let's be honest, they are bringing Cade back because he's the most popular Destiny character and they're in The dumpster when it comes to their fanbase.
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS. WE ALL NEEEEEEEEEEED. OUR OL BUDDY. BACK 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😊👍😊👍😊👍😊👍😊👍😊👍😊👍😊👍😊😐👍😊👍
Riven impersonating Mara and Crow to not notice it is a huge plot hole in my opinion.
Isn't that great Brother-Sister-Connection the sole reason why Crow is the one who was send through the portal? If this connection is this strong to be felt through that portal and all how did he not notice that it was not Mara he spoke to?
I guess that old quote is true no body stays dead in modern media and its true for destiny making cayde death meaningless if your going to bring him back
Appreciate the breakdown on this. As someone who is genuinely not excited about Cayde-6 return i think this context is helpful. I still feel like bringing back Cayde (even if this is the end of this saga in the game) feels gimmicky/nostalgia bait. At the end of the day we will have to play TFS to see how Bungie handles the storyline but definitely super low on my priority list in terms of what im looking for from TFS.
And I appreciate this comment. When I first saw the reveal for cayde coming back I was like yeah I suppose that's cool. Bit of nostalgia. But I definitely wasnt hyped as so many people are. Hopefully he's not back for good finish whatever story is to tell in the final shape and just leave it at that
Returning because the game is in trouble and they are hoping a loved character can save them some blushes
DCP sucks since you left.
Bose QC ultra headphones are far better had the raycons there ok
You got the urge to start playing Destiny again yet.. ?
He's coming back everyone. It's official!!!
... Oh, and Cayde's back (there was half-hearted rejoicing).
Hopefully we will be seeing more content coming leading up to Final Shape. Missed your videos so much.
My guess is that since Riven was already dead and could not be restored, and Ahamkara feed on granting wishes, that powerful wish spoken from the deepest emotion of a regretful guardian, could have been used to feed one of, if not all of, her found Ahamkara eggs and helped to hatch at least one of them, (again, if not all of them).
Why is cayde returning? ..... money. Bungie wants money.... plz buy their game. Plz?
Our Myelin with another lore video
Thought my man quit destiny
Hey Myelin, would rather have Cayde back as the Hunter Vanguard or do think Uldren should remain? Also, I do miss Cayde and the voice of Nathan Fillion since the passing of Lance Reddick as Commander Zavala, just for nostalgia reason I do miss the trio.
Fully expecting Crow to sacrifice everything in a way to bring Cayde back.
Either by somehow giving his ghost to Cayde OR by changing places with Cayde.
Or fully sacrifice his life in some deux ex machina situation that gives Cayde a new chance.
Impressive theory and presentation of evidence. Coming back since finishing TFS Campain. You f-ing nailed it!
I love Crow’s story arc. I wish some of the beginning stuff was more front facing but it’s such a unique and sad situation he’s in. Really hope they have a good face to face talk in FS. Lot of build up there.
Yayyyy Myelins Lore, I miss these every 2-3 days
IMHO, the catch will not so much about Riven being benevolent or malicious... I think even Ahamkara do not posess the power that is required to overwhelm the Traveller or the rules inside of it.
As many others have said, I imagine the catch is that Cayde will only exist inside there and will not be able to leave.
Hmmm Crow - “ Traveler chose him to remake something dead and gone (the dead traveler itself) into something new and beautiful (prismatic) ?
I'm thinking that the Vanguard Dare may come into play if Crow gets to have that conversation with Cayde. It feels like Bungie has been building Crow up to be the new Hunter Vanguard over time.
Looking at the crow and savathun cutscene again… below savathuns frozen body is the final shape triangle in the exact same color. Coincidence? Probably but curious if there’s any specific rime or reason to that.
There's evidence of ahamkara in the pale heart, seen in trailers and the name of an enemy in a prismatic trailer showcase.
Crow has definitely wished for cayde to come back but theres no way of knowing if Riven has any influence over the Pale Heart itself. That being said she can wish someone into it.
The only thing that makes me think wishing him back to life won't be how he returns is that its from a single Lore card in a seasonal story. Sure the seasonal lore has implications in the playable story (Torobatl mainly) but returning to 'key events happening only in Lore' seems like a step back
I've always been a believer that the inside of the traveller is where dead guardians go to (kinda like a Valhalla). I believe that this is how cayde-6 (and maybe others, such as Joxer) will be brought back into the game. I don't think that they will be able to leave the traveller when we do though, as technically the ones already inside the traveller are dead (if my theory is correct)
Cayde-6 ❤ I haven't given it much thought of how they may explain why Cadye is there. I wonder if other guardians will show that also passed away.
Because Bungie will do literally anything they can to bring back players, except for making the game playable.
If they bring Cayde back only to have us experience him going away all over again… somebody will not get my money anymore! 😢😂
Your title for this straight up being a spoiler, is absolutely trash of you. Why on earth would you put spoilers where people can't avoid them?
I hope that they bring back Cayde’s weekly stashes! I really liked getting the emblems from them.
I think final shape my have a twist where crow will be given to choice by the travler to swap places with cayde at the end of the story giving crow the redemption he been seeking since his memorys came bk not sure how it will go down as i know crow has become a fan favourite for a lot of players cause he is just so beefy (his words not mine) lmao
Why does Cayde come back? Cause hes a fan favourite and maybe helps selling numbers.
I think there is a -1000% chance cause will be able to leave the pale heart. I think the wish brought him back to life completely, but the catch is that he only exists inside the traveler
Crow wished for cayde back and the consequence for the wish is he will have to be the hunter vanguard. Kind of how cayde lost a bet. He loses his ability to scout and be a free hunter.
The catch will be that Cayde will only be ‘alive’ in the Pale Heart
In other words a lore reason for him being the destination vendor
There be dragons
Honestly the game started going downhill the same day Cayde 6 died
Thanks Matt!!
The Return Of The King
(not talking about Cayde)
Cayde also would have been in the traveller a long time before the witness shaping the pale heart too
crow/uldren is honestly one of the best written characters we have ever gotten its mad to think pepole are still blinded by the death of cayde to see it
Ah man I'm so on board with this comment. It's ridiculous the hate crow gets because he killed cayde when it wasn't even him. And tbh I like uldrin as a character before and killing cayde was a good storyline for destiny to go dark. It's sad people can't let go even tho it was like six years ago 🤦
nostalgia bait to purchase final shape after the absolute trash we got with lightfall!?
Very ready to see the conclusion to light vs dark!
i think crow will have to give his life for cayde return, a life for a life
the legend
Raycon arn't going to work with my dodgy brazilian jiu jitsu cauliflower ears! :D
lol
Cayde-6, what a guy! Glad to have him back.
Love your content Matt, got a lot of Destiny stuff to catch up to I see!
hes returning cause bungie needs this dlc to be good thats why
Why did glint wait until Crow died to heal him from the hammer wounds? Does glint like seeing crow in pain, doesnt really make sense.
Ghosts don’t heal they just revive. I think
The voice of your ghost is the most annoying
Babe wake up, new myelin vid!!!
Been busy lately, but I’ll always make time for a Myelin video. Appreciate your hard work!
So they killed him to milk the game now he’s back
Return of the Myelin
dont dare talk about cayde like is he be a vilain !
Why did glint let him suffer for hours?
I think when Crow made that wish as unintended as it was. Riven made it so he got that chance, Cayde was already in the pale heart, but Riven open a way and made it so only Crow could go, which would fullfill the wish. Not really sure what twist Riven put on it though.
Cayde is the gojo of destiny
Which hand Cannon are you using in this video
Pretty sure its all but confirmed that cayde was wished back unintentionally when he thought he was talking to Mara but was actally riven
I’m still curious what my guardians life a Corsair was like and who she was her personality . That would be a cool thing to learn
Is the OG voice actor returning?
Don't put spoilers as your thumbnail.... thanks
Brother... Cayde's return was announced by Bungie in every single Final Shape trailer... for literal month now... probs even last year. Thanks!
Myelin starting to look like post Malone
I hope cyade comes back to the tower and isn’t just stuck in the traveler I hope they make him a vendor again and our hunter vanguard again why would you kill off the best character in destiny I hope we get to see cyade 6 back in the tower for good and not just in the campaign because that would be stupid he needs to come back and find a way to bring him back to life with a new ghost and have him live in the tower happily ever after like everyone else I want my hunter vanguard back
Yeah not gonna happen buddy. Would make his death pointless in forsaken. Feel like his just a memory like myelin is saying and he'll act like a guide for us. Hope he don't come back. Cuz it'll be the cayde show all over again. For me him dying gave other characters to develop and then room to introduce new characters like mithrax and caital.
@@John-nj6xl that would be stupid he was the best character in destiny ikora ray is a useless character so is Osiris everyone loved cyade people were so pissed when that happened he made destiny the hunters don’t even have a vanguard all the other characters arnt as funny or cool and interesting as cyade
Punctuation, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?!
The worm didn't digest him enough
0:30 no one buy these. They are not good.
*Cayde-6 was the Final Wish*
Is his name now Cayde-7?
They killed him to make the game popular again now he’s back…
It was one of the worst decisions ever so how could it make the game more popular
@@brandonperrott9861 because it made the game popular again? Killing their favorite character to play story again
Theory, not explanation.
I bet cade is the witness in disguise
We mustn’t blame someone for who they were, we must welcome that someone for how far they’ve come
Cayde is the raid boss!!??
Myelin!!!!
Cayde-6 RETURNS!!! so hyped for this
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