Destiny 2 - IT’S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT! The Travelers Scream For Help
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- The Traveler is screaming for help, a new Speaker mask to hear it’s voice, How Cayde is alive and how the Great Ahamkara Hunt continues inside the Traveler. Today we discuss these mysteries.
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The idea of a god screaming for help is some real good horror story material
Whenever I heard Immaru say that about your God screaming for help it did put things in perspective for me. The big G needing help from inferior beings, it does give the sense of helplessness, confusion or WHAT you can possibly do. Our guardian is carrying a lot on their back in TFS😅
So hear me out, remember that in lightfall, if you had nezarecs sin helmet for warlock and nezarecs whisper on other classes, you could hear the screams in the hypernet current strike when doing it on the first time related to the campaign, what if the speaker mask has the same role, we do the strike as post campaign mission "wildcard" and during the strike we hear screams, but if you do the campaign on legendary, you can claim the mask and hear teh traveler, building up for the raid, maybe the other classes can hear the travaler with weapons such as Travelers Choosen
finally. the grey broken traveler's chosen. its your time to shine buddy
@@roobeedooo LMAFO, it would be funny and cool if it works
I imagine lumina or hawkmoon might work for it too
@@lord_performapal5663 oh yeah, good on that one
And for the weapon you could use travlers chosen or khvostov
The Titan exotic gauntlets is a play on a Mike Tyson quote _"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."_ ....is Mike Tyson a guardian in the Destiny universe?!
The actual quote is similar to that (i think its loosely based off Mike's quote) is "Every enemy has a plan until the fist comes down in blissful ignorance" (a play on words for Blissful with Wishful)
@@dreamingleviathan3354 I see...thank you
If he was the witness would've lost
I refer to my titan as "Mike Titan"
Plot twist, Tyson IS Zavala.
What if we want to join the witness
What if we want to surpass the witness
you rogue boi
I do tbh kinda tired of the good boring characters like osirs Saint mithrax ect but knowing Bungie they would force us to become a servant of the light
@@notrealatall810 really seems like it's been that way since maybe the beginning
And why would we wanna do that??....
I see the vision brother
In a weird way "Mara's" Words and confession could be Riven's genuine feelings and confessions...
And might be why Crow and Cayde's meeting ended on friendly terms
Definitely sounds like a cry for help. Like the travellers cry. Almost sounds like how a Whale sounds when it’s in distress.
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If the Light can only be given, then I assume the Witness is torturing the Gardener to make it give it the Light...
Maybe but i rather think its use the darkness to controll the Light. To command the gardener. His Mind.
@@Mephisto-xg3zrpossibly both? Mind control doesn’t have to be pretty
I feel like the Traveler is trying to send the Guardians a distress signal the same way it send that blast that last three times. But the Witness is reducing the blast radius so the Traveler can't send out a message.
@@STR0BEV considering the witness literally has the darkness (the veil) then yeah, unlike ghaul I don't think it really matters to him if the light is "corrupted"
The light doesn’t need to be given. We seen ghaul who manged to take it stupidly but he definitely took it. The witness could he trying exactly that trying to pry the light for itself without suffering ghauls fate being killed.
I love how in the ship lore Riven is actually being sincere in how she talks to Crow, apologizing for what she did to him in Forsaken
Don't worry traveler, your pillar of strength has ascended.
I had a thought in my mind. The mask of the Speaker, might mean that we take the mantle of the Speaker after Final shape.
*Good luck Guatdian*
Helmet is only for warlock
In the original concept for the beginning trailer for Destiny, there was a woman that greeted the astronauts instead of the traveler. Maybe that voice at the end is a call back to that original idea?
It would make sense for the Ahamkara to be linked to the Traveler in some way. With the Light (and Traveler), it's about Creating something out of Nothing. There's no need for precursor material to make something, if you want (or wish) to fashion your Light into a blade or shield, you can without any need for anything, it's a Gift through and through. The Ahamkara work similarly, but a Wish/Want is needed, and that Wish/Want is functionally 'nothing', ethereal, just like us forming our Supers and Abilities. My theory is that the Ahamkara are a sort of Attempt by the Traveler to create it's own Life that can easily thrive without the Traveler's assistance, but they still followed the Traveler where ever it went since it is their "Mother". The Ahamkara had only appeared in Sol AFTER the Traveler had arrived, and in the Books of Sorrow it's stated by Xivu Arath that 'The Harmony' a race now extinct due to the Hive, had "Wishful Bishops" and used "Dragon-Wishes" as the Harmony were benefited by The Traveler.
TL;DR, Traveler made the Ahamkara, and they followed it around to all the civilizations it uplifted and consequently let fall.
Hot take: the "entity" within the Traveler IS an ahamkara 🤔
With Cayde inside the Traveler, there is no need for his Ghost, unless a Ghost CHOOSES Cayde, but it will NOT be Sundance, she was obliterated completely by that shot.
If Cayde is resurrected through a wish and it would seem sundance could be resurrected. We don’t know enough about ghosts. There sentient they feel I’m sure they could be resurrected like us. And the hive
I don’t think he has a ghost it’s possible if the traveler is begging for help it’s able to bring back guardians ghostless inside of it like an army of the fallen. Cayde was a notable guardian in his time alive.
While this is wish magic, that doesn't totally explain Cayde's appearance. Cayde could've easily been within the Traveler all this time, and Riven, or whatever Ahamkara granted this wish, could've just placed him there for that confrontation. Wish magic isn't Light or Dark, so creating a Lightbearer would be extremely difficult, unless said Lightbearer was just an illusion created by said wish magic. It's possible that ALL Lightbearers exist within the Traveler as soft of a Heaven or Valhalla situation, and the only reason we don't see more is because the amount of Lightbearers who've suffered a final death is relatively low compared to the vast space within this Heaven/Valhalla area. They could be wondering around, we just don't see them because the place is too big we'd never meet, or the space is being manipulated by the Witness in some fashion that we can't see them.
The sound of the waves of light that the monolith is doing sounds similar to the light buff we get at Root of Nightmares. But it's kinda jagged at the ending, like the light is bring suffocated
Thank you bro! Best lore out there
It's been an honor watching ur video for the final week before Final Shape until we meet again Guardian
We must stop the the witness! Guardians it’s time to show how far we have come! 💪🏼
Nerd
cringe
@@Sosuave95 fr makes me wanna not play the game
OR just turn another raid boss into a weapon. Cuz guardians love juicy guns.
Relax
The burst of light/scream is from the Traveler’s Pale Heart that the Witness mentioned in the bonus cutscene at the end of Witch Queen’s campaign.
It makes way more sense now.
Idk why, but i figured resurrection was beyond what Wish magic could do. Cuz if the Ahamkara could bring people back to life, i figure it would have happened more often. Like Mara would have brought Sjur back. Im thinking Cayde isnt back back, or he still existed in some form already and was just brought to where Crow would appear.
Isn’t the light blast similar in look and sound to the blasts in Root of Nightmares? What was the lore behind those blasts and could it relate to what the traveler is doing?
Also someone commented here that “cayde is not alive”. Makes me wonder if bungie is playing with the rumor about Cayde being Rasputin, but here Cayde is actually the traveler. ( like that BTAS epsiode with the little girl who is actually clayface).
The ones in Ron are nezarec trying to wield both light and dark at the same time aka prismatic. He wasn’t able to control it and this is what makes him damagable and vulnerable to us.
A mix of the traveler will and a wish dragons wish.
A powerful mix.
An obsidian monolith, how familiar
We need to END the Great Ahamkara Hunt!! Our rescue of Riven's Clutch gives us reason to preserve the Ahamkara where we can.
Ahamkara will be split into "good" and "evil" so we have some to defend and some to fight
Not gonna lie this gives horror vibes with the whole hands pulling zavala down from the final shape trailer then the possible ahamakara/god screaming out for help as witness does its plans for its final shape I love that that will be so cool if this dlc takes a horror ish aspect
The light blast coming from the monolith almost looks and sounds like the nodes of splendor from the root of nightmares raid
Bungie says their taking the avengers infinity war and endgame route for destiny meaning we’re gonna lose to the witness then come back
kind of the similar sound when you shoot the light things in root of nightmares
To help the Traveler, I will become the ultimate God-Killer!!
The way I see it maybe the witness has or had an egg and needed the light to revived it or give it life. The scream can be the scream of a dragon when they hatch or a scream of a dragon being tortured.
See also, Riven said “see you soon” even though she was an apparition soon to disappear for the last time. Curious why shed say that then. It wasnt for Crow to hear obviously so there was no need for her to keep up the Mara charade, which is supported by her saying her classic “O ___ mine” phrase
Theres just one problem... that blast is the same blast from the root of nightmares raid where you have to get the dark and light buff to ignore it... its the same sound too.
“Everyone has a plan until…
… they get punched in the face.”
Lol
I remember that if you had one of 2 nezerac items you could hear him in the neomuna. What if the speaker helmet did something like that. Imagine going through traveler not knowing where to go and then you hear traveler's voice pointing you in the right direction or giving a tip for a puzzle.
@3:38we hear the same sound effect in the Root of Nightmares raid during the jumping puzzle after the second encounter.
I like to think of the explosion of light not the witness stealing the light but the traveler having a physical form and fighting the witness and each explosion is them colliding
I wonder if we get our old planets back after we defeat the witness? Io, Mercury, Titan, and Mars completely....that would be crazy
Do not forget Venus
I still think this is a result of us messing with the Sundail. They kept saying over and over there will be consequences.
That light burst… don’t that sound like the same thing from the root of nightmares raid? When u shoot the node
In the dialog with Mara/Riven she says that she regrets manipulating him. I think that is genuine. I think granting his wish was a gift that won't come with a price this time. Considering she was in mourning of what her mate had done, sacrifice his life basically because of her, I think this was her redemption moment. She knows she did him dirty.
I think it would be awesome if the voice is a precursor guardian. Maybe from the faction that was loyal to the Light, before the traveler abandoned them and the Witness was created.
Sounds like a leviathan. Like Ahsa.
3:31 sounds like its in pain
actually thats a good point! I remember hearing that and thinking it was Ikora but its not... curious.
I hope the hunter boots massively boost the poison traits coming to snare bomb in TFS. they look like they could as well as looking like something green goblin could've worn in the Sam Ramey Spider-Man movies XD
The witness out here boofing the travellers light
I couldn't understand why Sundance had to help? Cayde wasn't dead!!! He just needed to hide out like we've gotta do
You don't need to die in the lore to get healed by your ghost, it can heal you even still alive... or on a more comical reason, he tried to press tab to warp to orbit 😂
@pandora8835 in cut scenes you've never see a Guardian pull out the ghost for transmat except us. They've always turned and transmat out.
What I think is that cayde came back with the ace of spades as a replacement for his ghost
Great job man :) thanks for finding more lore parallels and helping keep everyone updated with the story.
Y’all remember when they toyed with picking sides, they should bring that back for separate campaigns/ titles, gear, etc.
waiting for the reveal that the traveler is basically an Akira like entity that was experimented on and left to rot.
I still like to think that Cayde has been living on in the traveler for this purpose but we don’t know exactly when Riven came to Crow. At least that it’s probably during the last season. One thing that makes sense to me though is that perhaps Ahamkara are either a result of light elevation or simply a light species which would explain their arrival in Sol. Their nature is chaotic and full of potential after all.
Has anyone ever thought the Speakers Mask could be carved from Ahamkara bones?
The Traveller is the Mother Ahamkara
I miss all the past DLC’s I don’t understand why we can’t choose what to download like in CoD
Last time I checked this isn't call of duty? There are no resemblances from call of duty to destiny in the way that they structure their seasonal content, yearly expansions, etc.
Thank God Warlocks get something cool for once, but no... the exotic won't make us able to hear voices...
if they let us join the witness having a good ending for the expansion and bad ending where we join the witness if they let us choose if we want to join so that players who have evil thought's can make it happend
What if we are a different type of the witness. we are the guardian thousands of different ppl as one entity 🤔
Im having a hard time believing that riven actually granted that wish, she specifically said that she could only grant one final wish, and that was savathun's wish. Besides she can reject granting wishes, she's not forced to make them real, so she could've chosen to just not grant it. I firmly believe that cayde is alive for a different reason.
I mean yeah, Immaru told us last season the traveler’s screaming
I kinda feel like the new speaker helmet will give warlocks self res while using the new super
They’ll never add self rez
@scxm8825 I get that. But if they were to it would make perfect sense to Make it an exotic.
@@alexball7024 Self rez wasn't op just because you didn't need an exotic slot, it was OP because it literally broke raid encounters and was unfun to play against. Same thing with the reason why Icebreaker isn't coming back.
The helmet will probably do something with the new aspect if I were to guess
@zeroghost115 wish ice breaker returned
Look at time as a mesh and layered on each other...think of it kinda in the quantum state y'all love to express. Superimposed.
You saw a moment in a mesh, that moment exists superimposed upon the consciousness of the universe...it's design and story being told.
Crow kinda had it right...
Don't worry, traveler, we are gearing up for the final battle.. Destiny 2 needs to add doom theme armor, lol
7:56 until… they get punched in the mouth. That’s a reference to a Mike Tyson quote.
Instead of the Traveler's/Gardener's voice... perhaps its Sundance!
F the Traveler
I hope cayde is alive for good
What if the voice is Sundance they just didn’t want to reveal that yet.
3:54 almost the same audio (if im not tripin) CAN be heard when shooting the nodes of light in the ron raid i belive
I wish Bungie could do a mission at the end of the final shape that let the player base choose on joining the witness or saving the light, and based on majority percentage of the choices made would decide how Destiny 3 begins. Like if we chose the witness our gaurdian in D2 can become the new Witness and we would have to create a new gaurdian in D3 to deal with the choice.
All I know is I might be a titan main, but I was always a Cayde loyalist. I want to get in there already and take a chunk out of the witness with Cayde.
At the 8:15 mark I wonder why no mentions that's a play on the Mike Tyson line. "Everyone has a plan, until... they get punched in the face!"
Makes sense since it's on a Titan gauntlet with protruding knuckles.
I don’t think the wish brought Cayde back to life. More like it guaranteed Cayde would be there when Crow entered the portal. That’s my take for now
I agree, and I think it's also why Cayde won't leave The Traveller because technically, he can't
I really hope there is an option to become a disciple and have a special cutscene play showing the consequences of our choice then load us back to the last checkpoint
Does anyone else think that these three exotics might have a similar effect on our guardians like the Nezarek themed ones, that made us understand the whispers?
WE GET THE SPEAKERS EXOTIC OMFG!!!!!!!
no way, the traveler is in danger with the witness inside, super plot
So, my curiosity is piqued. Why does Cayde have an Exo body instead of a human fleshy one.
That's how crow remembered cayde to be
What if, The Witness witnesses something being witnessed?
Then you have to call for witness protection
The witness also witnesses us witnessing ourselves witnessing the witness witnessing us planning to see the witness's plans getting foiled by us.
one of my favorite lines from destiny is immaru's "imagine your god spoke to you, and all it did was scream for help"
up there with "indeed" "how's your sister?" "guardians make their own fate" and the legendary "feel free to kill yourself"
Yeah, i cannot imagine something more fear inducing than the godly entity your worship and that protects you actually screaming for YOUR help.. like what possibly can make a god scared/agonize to beg for the help of those it protects
Maybe we find Sundance for cayde in the pale heart? That would be cool
Wooo
Ghosts are -created- from the Traveler.
Guardians are -empowered- by the Traveler.
If your ghost has been exorcized, -uncreated-, we would -remain- empowered by the Traveler. Empowered, but mortal again. A Tiger with a cropped tail.
Bungee should have killed off more characters, and introduced more new Epic Guardians (not AS cool as us, but Bad Af). #Mithrax
If we get Cayde in Final Shape, will the Speaker return as well? If so, then we'll have the 2 most badass characters in video game history making a return.
The speaker wasn’t a guardian so I doubt it. But it could still happen
@C-Real I thought he was a Warlock?
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Anyone else sick and tired of the Darkness' shht? I'm a Titan. I'm just going to punch and smash my way through the coming fight. I hope my Guardian family of Hunters and Warlocks unite with us "crayon eaters" to put an end to this garbage.
honestly I never really have considered teh traveller a god in part because I don't worship it obviously, but also it always felt cowardly and weak the whole screaming for help sorta shows how it is kinda weak lmao
They said we could decipher what the dread are saying, who’s to say we won’t be able to decipher what the traveler is saying? Easter egg? Larger exotic quest? Who knows.
9:51 I know this is a long shot but this sounds like Taeko-3 the guardian who sacrificed herself to help kill Savathuns Song from year 1
It would be very ironic if it turns out the traveller was created by a wish and the wish dragons is inside
To be fair, the witness has been in the traveler for over a year
The sound of the Traveler screaming/roaring/weezing reminds me a lot of Necrozma’s roar from Pokémon. Specifically it’s ultra form.
Eyes up, Guardian
The Pale Heart of the Traveler awaits
what is happen in the traveler is bad an withness will pay for it
Cayde is not alive