Saxdor 270 - TEST DRIVE & WALKTHROUGH | Dan Jones
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2022
- I believe this Saxdor 270 GTO will be the next Boat Of The Year it's that good. This boat is sexy from every angle, she goes great through the water, she sips the fuel and is packed with useful and clever features making this a boat for many occasions.
00:27 Test Drive Begins
08:09 Detailed Walkthrough Begins
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With the new Saxdor factory coming online in Nov 2022 they will finally be able to start meeting the the huge demand for this popular brand, and from what I discovered today the future of Saxdor is very bright because this 270 is absolutely awesome!!
So happy to have this opportunity to bring it to you and I hope you find this informative and hopefully useful for your next boat purchase.
Enjoy,
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wow - looks like i have a new (and second) boat channel to follow - your enthusiasm is infectious. Great job on this - I'll have to add the Saxdor to my list of impressive boats. 😁
Oh well welcome then! It’s hard not to enjoy myself when I’m driving amazing boats every day! My goal is to show you guys that you can be having this much fun too, so hope you get some value from the videos 👍😎
Very nice video. Direct and to the point 👍😎
This is really great Dan. Thank you very much.
No worries Bryan, I saw you were keen on this boat. It’s better than I expected. In fact it’s an outstanding boat 🚤
@@BoatLife_DansBoatLife I have to have it! 😁
great reviews, thanks
Great boat… thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Saxdor really refined their products. 🤙🏽 Can’t wait for the 320 gto. 🙏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
So from what I saw this week they have had two main goals. 1. Quality Improvements 2. Increasing Production
Seems like everyone at the factory is working 15hr days and super focused on making the boats better and better. I was giving feedback and they were super interested to listen. I toured their new factory which is massive and they will be controlling the entire production process themselves from it so no outsourcing. I left Poland with the feeling that these guys are going to be very successful in 2023. When I actually get time I’ll film an update on the 320GTO because it’s so much better now with the new roof and other improvements 👏
I’m just struggling for time at the moment with a lot of people asking me to visit them so I can’t give a date yet
I’ve seen a couple of 2022 320 GTC and GTO up close and the finish is dreadful. Sealant snotty, poor fibreglass finish, rub rail not straight/ symmetrical, leaky cabin door on a GTC, rust on the bow name plate and the beat goes on.
Following all the fantastic reviews on performance and equipment I was so disappointed when I saw one up close.
I hope they have their act together now is it seems like a great boat.
Great review, and I like where the throttle is located since it reduces someone hitting it by mistake!
Very impressive, Dan. And a lot more of a 'tour' than I was expecting, since there's a lot more boat than is initially apparent. You mentioned fuel economy twice but offered no specifics. For those 'slow cruise 27' and 'fast cruise 33' speeds, can you share fuel figures? Once again, nice job!
No worries Jack. Yes I forgot to read the fuel flow put in the video as I was having so much fun. I’m getting the factory to send me the exact numbers as I don’t want to try remember and get it wrong because lots of people will read this. I’ll post them to the channel when I have them. Sorry I was really enjoying the drive I just forgot to read it out 😬 I don’t script anything as I just want to have a conversation with you guys and share what I’m experiencing so sometimes I forget when I get distracted 🥴
Thanks for the tour and test drive, Dan! I'm glad to see a boat in this size category from Saxdor! While this boat looks fantastic and checks a lot of boxes, it would be nice to see a two engine option for safety and redundancy. Perhaps you could give the guys at Saxdor a ring! 😃
It really is a great boat Jesse. Sure I can mention it to them but I didn't see enough beam on the transom with the swim platforms either side so i'd question if they would actually fit? I'll ask.
@@BoatLife_DansBoatLife Thanks Dan! Idk how others would feel but I would be happy to sacrifice some swim platform area for the added security of 2 engines. Maybe a couple of 125s or 150s!
Thanks Dan for this great video. I am looking for a commuter, 60 Nautical Miles in the Med one way. I am looking for a day boat with a room for two for emergency overnighting ( bad weather mainly) . Being 6'2", I have a real problem with the height of the TTop on the Saxdor 270 GTO ( 2X200 Merc). Room in the Axopar 290 is not a good option to shelter kids or even anyone from bad weather ( access through front door not at all practical / claustrophobic with closed door). There is one boat which checks almost all the boxes, i.e. the Nimbus T9X in its 2X 225 Merc configuration . The general feeling reading different sea tests , including yours, is that the Nimbus might be a bit sluggish, less sporty / fun, precise than the Saxdor /Axopar I named. Would you or anyone comment on the following question, is the Nimbus not too much of a reasonable choice compared to those fancy looking/ fun to drive, new generation boats coming from Poland?
G'day Michel, the Nimbus is the highest quality build out of the 3 choices but with a 300Hp felt sluggish yes. If you can get one with a V10 400Hp this would resolve that in my opinion. 2 x 225 also an option but I feel power to weight ratio on a V10 may serve you better.
Yet another great video Dan!Thanks for awesome content.
Always wanted to know can you tow a 27ft behind 4x4 or is it to big ??
In Australia it would be too wide as we are 2.5m beam restricted but in other countries yes you could. This 270 ticks a LOT of boxes for many people.
great review, thanks dan. Been comparing alle those scandinavian brands of the recent years and I agree it lloks like boat of the year 23. Maybe 350hp version woild be interesting on top.
Can the backrail be switched for a ski pole? And watersports option to tow?
Yep I believe this will be one of the top selling boats of 2023 from what I saw today. Possibly re a 350hp but i reckon I could get 46... maybe 47kts in salt water and I do love the power to weight ratio of those Merc's so for me personally i'd probably still sway on the 300 Merc's side. Yes it comes with a ski pole as an option. If i get any drawing's i'll post them to the channel. Thanks for the feedback!
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Hi Dan, your best vid to date for me, well done! I love this boat - when will you be able to review one properly in Sydney outside the heads? (I’m really keen to see what the compromises are in handling in moderate seas vs an Axopar 28, given it looks like a more substantial boat). Also on Facebook and in non-English videos on UA-cam I can see another hard-top version of the T-top as well as a ‘dual lounge’ option (no wet bar), roof rack option mentioned, clears shown etc (all things I’d prefer) but the Saxdor website has nothing about any of these, cheers, Martin
If a 270 arrives in Sydney before April i'll be able to get it done for you guys. After April i'll be bouncing between Sydney and the Northern Hemisphere testing boats so it might be somewhere else. But I do plan to get one out in the ocean as I know this is important to a lot of you guys.
I sold Axopar's for 5yrs before starting this channel and have 100's of hrs driving them including the 28 (MK I & II). The Axopar will be a hard hull to beat offshore but they are getting up there in price now which opens the door to competitors. I think from what I felt on the flat water the 270 feels like she could be the closest competitor to the Axopar in terms of rough water performance, however I really need to test it before I can confirm that.
Regarding the other designs I can't confirm or deny as a lot of the factories are sharing their designs with me so do not want to break the trust. I will ask and post to my community page when I get an answer.
Excellent thanks Dan, will watch the community page.
Hi Dan, great review. Can you confirm what the transom, floors and stringer made off? Composite construction or marine wood?
Yes! I've not seen the build process on these yet but I understand the hull and strongers to be GRP and foam core in areas above the waterline. Transom is solid GRP. When I get invoited to see the new factory I'll make a detailed video on this because i'. also interested to see exactly what's happenning with the production process.
Dan great video mate. Would you go with the individual seat or sofa option where you loose the wet bar?
Personally the sofa option as i value more lounging and visit waterfront cafe's for food but it really depends on how you will use the boat and where you chose to eat your lunch..?
I love that you combine test drive and walk through together
She's pretty how does it compare to the Ryck 28?
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Oh good I was wondering if anyone would like that. I’ve literally done this out of necessity because I’ve been filming so much this month I didn’t have time to edit more. Maybe I’ll start doing it this way permanently?
And re performance the Saxdor 270 is currently the best cutting bow design I’ve driven. The Ryck has more volume inside so if you are looking for accommodation it’s a better boat for that.
A dream
I know right!
Hey Dan, which camera (not the drone) and lens and stabilization do you use to record your amazing boat video?
G’day just a canon M50 on a DJi gimble which is too big and heavy to carry around the world all the time and a GoPro. Actually many GoPros and then the Mavic 2 and Mavic Mini 3.
@@BoatLife_DansBoatLife OH I see and which Canon lenses do you use and what DJI gimball model?
Great review, do you have any fuel consumption figures? thanks!
I will do this when I get a chance to test in the ocean.
This is a very impressive boat. As you mentioned it really ticks a lot of boxes especially for the money. It also looks very nice.
One question I would like to ask you Dan, is can it be lifted with a davit crane onto a yacht boat deck?
Seriously impressive. It's the best driving boat of this style I've tested so far (in this size range). Re the davit crane i did not see any lift points and I'm 99% sure the answer would be that you'd need slings. I'll ask the factory guys however and leave a comment here if I'm wrong. I spent probably 6hrs crawling all over it today which is why I'm saying i don't think so.
@@BoatLife_DansBoatLife I appreciate the reply Dan. I have been looking for a boat in the length and weight range as a tender and it would be perfect if it has lifting points. Using lift straps is a real hassle as it takes a lot of training and just more dangerous each time a crane operation is performed.
Without the T top and full quick clip covers it would make it a very easy tow behind tender, but what a blast handling wise, I'd like to see how it performs with a CXO300 on the back just to make refuelling easier from your yacht
Nice boat! but it has no anchor? you can only use a grappling anchor? Thats kind of weird for that size of boat…
That’s exactly what I said! And so now there will be an anchor like on the 320 so it’s beautiful and fits with the design. It’s now being added to the options
Dan do you prefer the Quarken 27 T Top or the Saxdor 270 GTO?
Thanks Paul
Both are top boats. In general - if it’s looks, performance and resale I’d favour the Saxdor. For longevity, and family boating id favour the Quarken.
I'm curious as to how it performs with the 225 hp engine.
I've only tried with 250 and 300hp which were both in the high performance category.
Do they do the 270 with a hard top
No you need to move to the 320 for that.
How does it compare against the Axopar 28?
From what I experienced on the flat water this boat is more enjoyable to drive. When I get an opportunity to test in the ocean i'll do an update.
@@BoatLife_DansBoatLife Thanks for your reply. How about perceived quality of materials, ergonomics, build quality etc?
Watched all of the reviews here on this boat. They need to put a 400 or 450 engine for the American market. 300 won’t due for our lake culture.
Maybe I’ve not been to US lakes yet? I don’t believe it actually needs this much HP but I also love and appreciate ridiculous ideas like too much HP so sounds fun haha 😆
The concept of “it doesn’t need” is frustrating for those of us who are coming from much, much faster boats and want to be able to take advantage when the conditions allow. These hull designs, Saxdor and Axopar are perfectly capable of operating in the 55knot range and I would consider this Saxdor over the comparable Axopar it it could be spec’d with a Merc 400R like the Axopar 28 can be. Just because a boat can do 50knots+ doesn’t mean it can’t operated very efficiently in the 30 - 40 knot range all day long or in rough seas. Just CE/USCG spec the max HP to 400 and let the owner decide. Unless, of course, the construction is compromised to save money and can’t support that level of performance. BTW “really fast” is not 40 Knots, it’s more like 80 knots. 50 knots would be best described as “brisk” 😎
In the US pontoon boats are fitted with 300s. That should give you an idea.
@@JoshRichmanDesignin Europe, petrol costs twice as much as in US. This should give you an idea why we approach HP more reasonable.
@@dotmalec hey I’m not saying it’s reasonable or even my personal preference. I’m just sharing some insight into what US consumers are buying and doing. This is the behavior & market.
Is it possible to have a hard top????
So yes news is coming on this. I’m asking all the factories if I can just publish their new designs here and so when I get permission I’ll just start posting new models when the designs are finalised. Everyone is sending me their ideas but its confidential so I need to work out a system with the factories before I go sharing information as they are putting a lot of trust in me sharing their designs when I’m off to meet their competitors the next day quite often
Available in US?
Yes, through Marine Max
Where was this filmed?
On a lake in Poland very close to the Saxdor factory in a place called Elk. This is where they test all their boats. Very beautiful area and quite a big boating culture actually
I don’t see any listed under 130k euro
Yes that sounds correct. All these European factories seem to advertise the base price before VAT, options and delivery etc so when you get the final price it adds up to a lot more driveaway.
@@BoatLife_DansBoatLife any idea when these will make their way to the US?
To be honest, speed seems to appeal to the immature. Like a car that could go 150mph, but where?
Sounds like you haven't had a fun day going fast on a boat laughing like you're a teenage boy before?
@@BoatLife_DansBoatLife i think you’re right. But i have gone fast before, i nearly maxed out a kawi zx14r on a fairly open upstate ny highway. After that ride, speed at the level taught me the theory of relativity: passing cars that are traveling 75mph look like they’re parked. And seeing the cars in front of me, felt like i was driving to a parking lot. Every car around me looked like they was stopped along the highway as i passed them traveling much more than twice their speed. There was no thrill of a teenage boy, it was all focus and stay tucked below the small fairing. When i slowed down and pulled into a rest stop, i could finally process what happened. That was when no speed could ever match the open vulnerability and the flight on the edge of death. It was stupid, i know but I never felt a need for speed since.
Sharp turns at 40 knots.... because that's how you drive boats everyday! Also, cruising around at 5000rpm+ is going to have those Mercury salespeople rubbing their hands as you prematurely destroy the motor.
Actually 6050 Revs was the top ;) .... test boat mate - the engine's been run in. Thanks for your concern though.
They are selling these from $235000 AUD in AUSTRALIA
Yeah that sounds right when you add options, taxes, duty and shipping. Probably up around 300k for highly spec ones too. As a general rule for Australia if you see a base Euro or USD price add 25% for options and then double it and you get your AUD price.
How much in the US, west coast?
Testing a boat on flat water what a joke
I put the location in the video as we were in the middle of Poland on a lake. There is no ocean anywhere nearby so that's all we had to test on. I'll do another video in the ocean when I get an opportunity
Yes i can understand that, but this i can't, why didn't you share the data of fuel consuption/speed!?