@@stevescoville8465 Have you ever plowed your own money into a crop not knowing if it will make a profit do to circumstances that are out of your control? If not you don't have a clue.
Sad to say but yet so true. "The family farm is gone" Around hear you will get run off the road if you are on a tractor by people rushing to get to their place on the lake so they can grill their steak, bake their potato and toss their salad with cheese,bacon bits and croutons and never give a single thought that the individual whose life they carelessly endangered could be directly responsible for that meal. Trust me, I have been that man on the tractor many times. Only by the grace of God!
Agreed the government should give big farmers money or something to pay there workers more cause its the farmhands who work nearly everyday without barely any days off and sometimes less than minimum wage with no overtime and benefits its really under appreciated and people use it to their advantage should just make big farms like any other industrial setting workplace
The aggressive driving in the country is getting worse and worse. I drive truck for a living and people have been nuts on the road. I think most think I’m driving a sports car.
I thank you for being a farmer. I'm not. But I sincerely appreciate you and those who are. I live out near potato farms and have seen some if not several go to growing houses. I started life when there was 150 million people in this country and my childhood and teenage years, 200 million. Now there are well over 300 million people creating a conflict between housing, and food to put into those houses. Not good. Choose LIFE. Choose Jesus. Time is running out.
@@Rareoldtrucks As the song says, "... and 18 wheelers can't stop on a dime." And way too many cars. Took a drive to get my wife a "Sloppy Woodie" today and could not believe the cars ... it was like rush hour, at noon-thirty. Cannot wait until the Lord returns for his church, and begins the wind down to this nuts world.
What are we going to do what are we going to do without these great men and women.... Their wisdom Their dedication We don't have it anymore what's going to happen God-bless us all
As I see it corporate farms will control the majority of our food supply and you will pay what they want you to pay. And most people will have no choice because sadly the art of tilling the land is slowly being lost.
Bankrupt 3 times. Kinda gets me worked up, when farming is in your blood nothing else will do. This is a man who has started over 4 times, because of his determination amd love for the land. We are a dying breed. I hope to never see the day the farmer gets praised for the work he does by those who hate him now, for then it will be to late.
@@stevescoville8465 you ever ran a business where you buy the inputs at retail and sell the final product at wholesale and paid the freight both ways!?
@@m16ty USDA. they were on a war path for government farms during the cold War. They placed programs and interfered with global trade that force the farmer either sell out or take government assistance. It's not as bad today as it was in the 70s and 80s. But that is what farms are so large today.
@@m16ty This system is not by our choice. The Chicago board of trade is the determining factor as to what we get paid for our crop. The USDA has a huge influence on the board with their "crop reports". If the crop looks good our price goes down and vice versa. Exports also play a huge part in crop prices and I'll be damned who do you suppose is in control of that with their sanctions against our foreign customers. Good old federal government and their BS politics. Do a little research before you throw us under the bus. By the way, I don't take any government money because I don't need them telling me how to farm.
Thank people like this man who feeds the world, the lines in his face and the calouses on his hands tell a story that just can't be spoken. Thank you Sir..
This is true. I remember a friend was telling me about helping his neighbor that was having trouble paying his bills. He had his tractor and field cultivator out helping the neighbor that was in trouble when another neighbor stopped and asked him "WTF are you doing"? He said "I'm trying to help the guy". The other neighbor said "Stop it, I have a deal with the bank already that if he goes broke then I get to farm all his ground". Just as dogs eat dogs, neighbors eat neighbors now.
Man I do see you rite ... I'm a logger but got real good friend that 100%plus in farming in ky I logged on him and I was impressed and amazed in him ...1000 acres + if it touches dirt we are dirt.lowest man on pole! After the first paper is signed every one else makes the easy money 💰 but same hear once get that saw dust on you you can't stop! I like your story so true....
What he is saying is if you have the will you will find the way. Sitting on his butt was not an option. My hats off to you sir because hard work does pay off. It’s American pride.
A true MAN! A true AMERICAN! There are people today that cannot remotely come close to conceiving the strength and character it takes to persevere through hard times. Here’s a individual who feels no one owes him anything as opposed to the entitlement mentality we see in all to many people today! God bless u sir!!!
Banks dont give a damn i try to fund all my stuff for my small farm myself and not rely on no bank because i know if i have a bad year theyll bury me and not think twice. It aint easy, if it was everyone would do it. And i dont know why but enjoy just watching everything grow makes it all worthwhile.
This is very true. I've been buried in debt, dug my way out and said never again. Now, the only way they can take this small farm is if I fail to pay the property taxes. I don't have as much as a lot of people, but everything I have is mine.
My heart dropped when he said the family farm is a thing of the past- gone… I was so fortunate & blessed to grow up on a family dairy farm- it’s now all corporate farms. Tragically the family farmer is basically no more & the world will never be the same nor close as a result.
When things get rough and you have a blow hard banker. You drive to every bank until you find a banker willing to do the work. When that banker gets transferred and they stick a coward in their place. You start driving around again to every bank until you find another banker willing to do the work. Many farmers have gone under because of blow hards. Try across the street first. My friend got lent out of trouble by going to a different branch. Found somebody that did not like his manager. She helped.
When I take over I’ll be 5th generation farmer. I pray to god that I’ll be able to keep the tradition going. But every year it seems like it keeps getting harder and harder for us small guys. I don’t ask much of anyone but I do ask that y’all support your local farmers.
(long post bear with me) He ain't kidding about the family farms being a thing of the past. It's sad and unfortunate. My grandparents(mom's side) were dairy farmers and had a pretty good dairy farm near a river. I love listening to my grandmother's stories of those days. That's how they provided food and a roof for my mom, aunt, and two uncle's. There were multiple farms nearby pretty much all gone now. They all helped eachother out. Someone's tractor went down everyone went and helped. Someone finally could afford a vacation for their family everyone came by to look after the place. She told me you woke up early every morning and went to work till the sun went down. The Kids were always either helping or outside playing and knew when it was time to get home for dinner. Unfortunetly my grandpa in the mid 80s got the cancer and passed soon after. Never got to meet him. My gram told me his parents came from Holland during the great depression and we're farmers there. He was born and raised to farm but was also a very smart man. He got accepted to west point but before he went he nearly lost his arm in a haybaler accident. It left it disfigured and bent but he could still use it and work with it. From all accounts he was a good man My gram fell on hard times after his passing, lost my aunt, and had to sell the farm. But the land was polluted because a big company dumped chemicals in the river nearby and she sued them and she settled outside of court got some good money. Through it all though she never lost faith in God and almost never skips church. She is still with us at 89 and still mows and rakes her own lawn, grows her own garden, still sharp and reads books like crazy, and goes for a walk almost everyday. My parents built our child hood house on one of the fields that wasn't contaminated. It was a great place to grow up with nature all around. When I was a kid My gram would take me to some of the bigger farms still in operation to see the cows, tractors and so forth. Sad my parents had to sell it due to divorce but they both remarried and I have great step parents. Sorry to make this so long but that line this great man said about family farms being gone had me reminiscing about my grandmother's stories of her days as a farmer. I wish I could give farming a try but I doubt I could ever get by.
I can feel your pain looks like I’m going to have to give my farm up after doing it my hole life with my wife and two daughters, the toughest thing I’ve been through in my 55 years on earth 🙏👍
That kind of farming is hard. Herbal farming like medicinal herbs is the thang. But industrialization of agriculture has changed a lot, where organic, heirloom varieties are the thing. Which I'd like to buy Jersey milk from local farmers but it isn't readily available. Where it's good milk. Then homegrown chickens has better tasting eggs. Then the meat is meatier. We grilled legs from store bought chicken where they shrunk big time. Homegrown right beside them, hardly shrunk at all. But, .......
Computer desk jockeys don't feed us. Though they think they do. Like all our jobs now. This Guy and those like him are the real deal and they do feed us. Yup working mans hands! I got them too. Shut down the computer and E mil, the jockey's are lost, but the working guy/gal keeps working.
Family farms ? Interesting you say that as I seen a post awhile back that was saying working in a family business is away to make you lazy and working for someone else makes you stronger .. I can't believe people really don't get it and this is the 21st century yet human progress is at a standstill it seems .
The family farm doesn't have a chance in this so-called Global Economy. When the corporations are always seeking out the lowest bidder for greater profit, the local economy cannot compete.
If not for a government enabled system that enables bankruptcy reorganization, he would never have been able to get back into farming and he would have been done for the rest of his life. I have no doubt that he's a hard worker. And he deserves everything he got. But he got a hand up and so should others
Yes pretty tough because the government keeps rooting her Farmers out it's like the old saying goes screw the farmer I think it me neither farmers in America not take them out of America
This man right here is the reason his daughter became a first generation farmer her and her husband bought their own farm this mans daughter stepped up and wanted to do the same and try to create another family farm because their hard to come by these days he raised his daughter right
It sounds like he does not adapt to the market. Profit and lose are the way we all determine demand and supply. You have to react to that reality and move into niche markets.
Hard work is great but. Our government and big business is going to crush the hardest worker if the hard workers don't unite. United we stand divided we fall. 🤔🤔🤔🇺🇸
Problem one is not growing the company naturally and taking loans when you weren't ready with cash in hand. I think a big problem here is that some of these good ol boys don't have fanancial training from family
So much misinformation in these comments and this video. Family farming is not dead. But you have to operate as a business not a way of life. Sharpen your pencil. Have a plan. Spend some time in the office. Otherwise your just working expecting others to feel sorry for you when it doesn’t work out.
The Sinner's Prayer Heavenly Father I come to you in prayer asking for the forgiveness of my Sins. I confess with my mouth and believe with my heart that Jesus is your Son, And that he died on the Cross at Calvary that I might be forgiven and have Eternal Life in the Kingdom of Heaven. Father, I believe that Jesus rose from the dead and I ask you right now to come in to my life and be my personal Lord and Savior. I repent of my Sins and will Worship you all the day's of my Life!. Because your word is truth, I confess with my mouth that I am Born Again and Cleansed by the Blood of Jesus! In Jesus Name, Amen.
A banker is the biggest theif upon the earth.It is illegal for a bank to loan you money.Therefore a bank can not loan you money or credit.When yiu sign the prommisory note,that note becomes a negotiable instrument.So for what ever the amount is,you just wrote the bank a check.
This is a real man. If he didn't say a word his hands would tell you his story.
Damn straight.
@@deedeloach7492 you can tell a lot by a man's hands !
Yes you definitely know how to read between the lines as they say
Real man how? Please be prepared for a real debate.
@@stevescoville8465 Have you ever plowed your own money into a crop not knowing if it will make a profit do to circumstances that are out of your control? If not you don't have a clue.
God forbid a video like this would go viral! Hard work is a thing of the past for most.
But watch your health as you work hard. It will crash in no time ...
This man is an example of What Makes American Great,
God Bless all the farmers cause they are the providers of the world. I thank each and everyone of you.
What a man. I appreciate his toughness and tenacity. Keep grinding Brother.
Success is great but failure is wisdom!! Especially if you don't give up!!!
God Bless You Sir !!!👍👍 🇺🇸
God Bless the American FARMERS.
Sad to say but yet so true. "The family farm is gone" Around hear you will get run off the road if you are on a tractor by people rushing to get to their place on the lake so they can grill their steak, bake their potato and toss their salad with cheese,bacon bits and croutons and never give a single thought that the individual whose life they carelessly endangered could be directly responsible for that meal. Trust me, I have been that man on the tractor many times. Only by the grace of God!
Agreed the government should give big farmers money or something to pay there workers more cause its the farmhands who work nearly everyday without barely any days off and sometimes less than minimum wage with no overtime and benefits its really under appreciated and people use it to their advantage should just make big farms like any other industrial setting workplace
And a big Thank you..
The aggressive driving in the country is getting worse and worse. I drive truck for a living and people have been nuts on the road. I think most think I’m driving a sports car.
I thank you for being a farmer. I'm not. But I sincerely appreciate you and those who are. I live out near potato farms and have seen some if not several go to growing houses. I started life when there was 150 million people in this country and my childhood and teenage years, 200 million. Now there are well over 300 million people creating a conflict between housing, and food to put into those houses. Not good. Choose LIFE. Choose Jesus. Time is running out.
@@Rareoldtrucks As the song says, "... and 18 wheelers can't stop on a dime." And way too many cars. Took a drive to get my wife a "Sloppy Woodie" today and could not believe the cars ... it was like rush hour, at noon-thirty. Cannot wait until the Lord returns for his church, and begins the wind down to this nuts world.
They don’t make hum that way anymore! Thank you!
They don't make hum? What is "hum"?
What are we going to do what are we going to do without these great men and women.... Their wisdom Their dedication We don't have it anymore what's going to happen God-bless us all
The pencil pusher is on it , they will get robots and such to do the work now that the hard working men and women got things set up .
As I see it corporate farms will control the majority of our food supply and you will pay what they want you to pay. And most people will have no choice because sadly the art of tilling the land is slowly being lost.
Bankrupt 3 times. Kinda gets me worked up, when farming is in your blood nothing else will do. This is a man who has started over 4 times, because of his determination amd love for the land. We are a dying breed. I hope to never see the day the farmer gets praised for the work he does by those who hate him now, for then it will be to late.
Doesn’t say much for his business acumen does it? You guys kill me. WTF. Always got your hands out.
@@stevescoville8465 you ever ran a business where you buy the inputs at retail and sell the final product at wholesale and paid the freight both ways!?
@@timwestendorf8303 And who's fault is that?
@@m16ty USDA. they were on a war path for government farms during the cold War. They placed programs and interfered with global trade that force the farmer either sell out or take government assistance. It's not as bad today as it was in the 70s and 80s. But that is what farms are so large today.
@@m16ty This system is not by our choice. The Chicago board of trade is the determining factor as to what we get paid for our crop. The USDA has a huge influence on the board with their "crop reports". If the crop looks good our price goes down and vice versa. Exports also play a huge part in crop prices and I'll be damned who do you suppose is in control of that with their sanctions against our foreign customers. Good old federal government and their BS politics. Do a little research before you throw us under the bus. By the way, I don't take any government money because I don't need them telling me how to farm.
Thank people like this man who feeds the world, the lines in his face and the calouses on his hands tell a story that just can't be spoken. Thank you Sir..
The aroma of freshly tilled ground
Satisfies the soul🙂
He’s exactly right about people wanting you to fail and see what they can take from you.
This is true. I remember a friend was telling me about helping his neighbor that was having trouble paying his bills. He had his tractor and field cultivator out helping the neighbor that was in trouble when another neighbor stopped and asked him "WTF are you doing"? He said "I'm trying to help the guy". The other neighbor said "Stop it, I have a deal with the bank already that if he goes broke then I get to farm all his ground". Just as dogs eat dogs, neighbors eat neighbors now.
Man I do see you rite ... I'm a logger but got real good friend that 100%plus in farming in ky I logged on him and I was impressed and amazed in him ...1000 acres + if it touches dirt we are dirt.lowest man on pole! After the first paper is signed every one else makes the easy money 💰 but same hear once get that saw dust on you you can't stop! I like your story so true....
Thank you sir ...for your ethics, service, produce and sacrifice for fellow countrymen.
True legendary working man...much respect.
We got our family farm still and . Love these videos
He is one tough man morals and conviction
God bless the American farmers! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Amen brother been down that road!!
What he is saying is if you have the will you will find the way. Sitting on his butt was not an option. My hats off to you sir because hard work does pay off. It’s American pride.
I love him and his work. I really appreciate all of them's hard work 🤘🤘🤘🤘
A true MAN! A true AMERICAN! There are people today that cannot remotely come close to conceiving the strength and character it takes to persevere through hard times. Here’s a individual who feels no one owes him anything as opposed to the entitlement mentality we see in all to many people today! God bless u sir!!!
Respect, sir.
"It's what I know, and you don't know " . 👌
If only our youth would lift their heads from their devices and listen to MEN like this... It would be a beautiful nation!! God bless you sir 🙏❤️
It's capitalism that is wrecking the livelihood of farmers, not 'youth' checking their phones.
God bless you and your family!!!!!!
Wellput my friend!! im teaching my son oldschool,1566 and an 8 row cyclo planter
This makes me sad dude. God Bless🇺🇸
great video!!! this is a hard working man!!
May God bless you Sir !
We need people like him running this country
Banks dont give a damn i try to fund all my stuff for my small farm myself and not rely on no bank because i know if i have a bad year theyll bury me and not think twice. It aint easy, if it was everyone would do it. And i dont know why but enjoy just watching everything grow makes it all worthwhile.
This is very true. I've been buried in debt, dug my way out and said never again. Now, the only way they can take this small farm is if I fail to pay the property taxes. I don't have as much as a lot of people, but everything I have is mine.
My heart dropped when he said the family farm is a thing of the past- gone… I was so fortunate & blessed to grow up on a family dairy farm- it’s now all corporate farms. Tragically the family farmer is basically no more & the world will never be the same nor close as a result.
When things get rough and you have a blow hard banker. You drive to every bank until you find a banker willing to do the work. When that banker gets transferred and they stick a coward in their place. You start driving around again to every bank until you find another banker willing to do the work. Many farmers have gone under because of blow hards. Try across the street first. My friend got lent out of trouble by going to a different branch. Found somebody that did not like his manager. She helped.
When I take over I’ll be 5th generation farmer. I pray to god that I’ll be able to keep the tradition going. But every year it seems like it keeps getting harder and harder for us small guys. I don’t ask much of anyone but I do ask that y’all support your local farmers.
(long post bear with me) He ain't kidding about the family farms being a thing of the past. It's sad and unfortunate. My grandparents(mom's side) were dairy farmers and had a pretty good dairy farm near a river. I love listening to my grandmother's stories of those days. That's how they provided food and a roof for my mom, aunt, and two uncle's. There were multiple farms nearby pretty much all gone now. They all helped eachother out. Someone's tractor went down everyone went and helped. Someone finally could afford a vacation for their family everyone came by to look after the place. She told me you woke up early every morning and went to work till the sun went down. The Kids were always either helping or outside playing and knew when it was time to get home for dinner. Unfortunetly my grandpa in the mid 80s got the cancer and passed soon after. Never got to meet him. My gram told me his parents came from Holland during the great depression and we're farmers there. He was born and raised to farm but was also a very smart man. He got accepted to west point but before he went he nearly lost his arm in a haybaler accident. It left it disfigured and bent but he could still use it and work with it. From all accounts he was a good man
My gram fell on hard times after his passing, lost my aunt, and had to sell the farm. But the land was polluted because a big company dumped chemicals in the river nearby and she sued them and she settled outside of court got some good money. Through it all though she never lost faith in God and almost never skips church. She is still with us at 89 and still mows and rakes her own lawn, grows her own garden, still sharp and reads books like crazy, and goes for a walk almost everyday.
My parents built our child hood house on one of the fields that wasn't contaminated. It was a great place to grow up with nature all around. When I was a kid My gram would take me to some of the bigger farms still in operation to see the cows, tractors and so forth.
Sad my parents had to sell it due to divorce but they both remarried and I have great step parents.
Sorry to make this so long but that line this great man said about family farms being gone had me reminiscing about my grandmother's stories of her days as a farmer. I wish I could give farming a try but I doubt I could ever get by.
I can feel your pain looks like I’m going to have to give my farm up after doing it my hole life with my wife and two daughters, the toughest thing I’ve been through in my 55 years on earth 🙏👍
Why Jimmy if I may ask? Thank you for everything.
@@samlopez4791 two years of bad crops because of weather and the bank wants me to come up with 150,000$
Sorry to hear that Jimmy, I’ll be praying for you and your family during this time.
@@samlopez4791 not enough help to keep the crops in a good rotation
If it wasn't for farmers like you america wouldn't have anything, so thank you
God bless the American farmers
"Ain't no backin up, either you go make it or you aint". That's my kinda people.
A real American! The type of man that keeps the country rolling.
These are the best stories
Beautiful American Man, god bless him
God bless our AMERICAN farmers and our american way of life!!!
Times might be troubling in the end we the people will succeed 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸
People are now being paid NOT to work. What the hell has happened to this country?
he is in Washington
@@johngnipper8768 "HE"
I believe I know who "he" is.
🥸
God Bless you sir
The world won’t be the same when these men are gone.
❗ NO FARM, NO FOOD ‼️
Farmers are Hero's
That kind of farming is hard. Herbal farming like medicinal herbs is the thang.
But industrialization of agriculture has changed a lot, where organic, heirloom varieties are the thing.
Which I'd like to buy Jersey milk from local farmers but it isn't readily available. Where it's good milk.
Then homegrown chickens has better tasting eggs. Then the meat is meatier.
We grilled legs from store bought chicken where they shrunk big time. Homegrown right beside them, hardly shrunk at all.
But, .......
Computer desk jockeys don't feed us. Though they think they do. Like all our jobs now. This Guy and those like him are the real deal and they do feed us. Yup working mans hands! I got them too. Shut down the computer and E mil, the jockey's are lost, but the working guy/gal keeps working.
It’s that 1000yard stare you get it when you grow weary of paying bills
God bless him
Excellent
Farmers should get more assistance from our government then a lot of other programs Like they say don’t bite the hand that feed you
@David Erickson that’s Not right they ALL should have!!
@David Erickson absolutely! They don’t see a lot of things the way they should
My kind of man, I mean real MAN.
I'd say you're on the mark 👍
Family farms ? Interesting you say that as I seen a post awhile back that was saying working in a family business is away to make you lazy and working for someone else makes you stronger .. I can't believe people really don't get it and this is the 21st century yet human progress is at a standstill it seems .
There may be a few slackers in family businesses but someone is carrying the freight, I can assure you of that.
The family farm doesn't have a chance in this so-called Global Economy. When the corporations are always seeking out the lowest bidder for greater profit, the local economy cannot compete.
People just need to be willing to pay more for quality food.
If not for a government enabled system that enables bankruptcy reorganization, he would never have been able to get back into farming and he would have been done for the rest of his life.
I have no doubt that he's a hard worker. And he deserves everything he got. But he got a hand up and so should others
Yes brother..
South Alabama and South Georgia accent. No doubt in my mind at all.
Amen God's mighty earth. The smell of dirt.
Yes pretty tough because the government keeps rooting her Farmers out it's like the old saying goes screw the farmer I think it me neither farmers in America not take them out of America
This man right here is the reason his daughter became a first generation farmer her and her husband bought their own farm this mans daughter stepped up and wanted to do the same and try to create another family farm because their hard to come by these days he raised his daughter right
Government backing banks is a big part of the problem. The bank never falls, so they keep handing out money and flooding the market.
Evil people.. are utterly destroying good people.. using the financial system..
Good ol American! We don't have those anymore.
It sounds like he does not adapt to the market. Profit and lose are the way we all determine demand and supply. You have to react to that reality and move into niche markets.
Nice
Hard work is great but. Our government and big business is going to crush the hardest worker if the hard workers don't unite. United we stand divided we fall. 🤔🤔🤔🇺🇸
Here they're two and from
Its up to the current political gain!
Not about what your made of or can do.
Im sorry bud, same
Problem one is not growing the company naturally and taking loans when you weren't ready with cash in hand. I think a big problem here is that some of these good ol boys don't have fanancial training from family
So much misinformation in these comments and this video. Family farming is not dead. But you have to operate as a business not a way of life. Sharpen your pencil. Have a plan. Spend some time in the office. Otherwise your just working expecting others to feel sorry for you when it doesn’t work out.
Every farmer I know is passed down. Family farms are not a thing of the past
This man is a progressive.
I love farmers and farming, but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
The Sinner's Prayer
Heavenly Father I come to you in prayer asking for the forgiveness of my Sins. I confess with my mouth and believe with my heart that Jesus is your Son, And that he died on the Cross at Calvary that I might be forgiven and have Eternal Life in the Kingdom of Heaven. Father, I believe that Jesus rose from the dead and I ask you right now to come in to my life and be my personal Lord and Savior. I repent of my Sins and will Worship you all the day's of my Life!. Because your word is truth, I confess with my mouth that I am Born Again and Cleansed by the Blood of Jesus! In Jesus Name, Amen.
If you use your own money it's a business. If you use the tax payers money it's just a hobby funded by big brother.
A banker is the biggest theif upon the earth.It is illegal for a bank to loan you money.Therefore a bank can not loan you money or credit.When yiu sign the prommisory note,that note becomes a negotiable instrument.So for what ever the amount is,you just wrote the bank a check.
i want the cites to stop taking over farm land
Keeping handing that free money out and let the blame of individual laziness be put on other reasons and watch the American culture rot away.......
If you’ve gone bankrupt 3 times you’re not good at running a Business and others have had to cover your debt 3 times.
A wealthy man, is a man in debt...
If he hasn’t figured out how to succeed at his craft since 1977 ? Really??? C’mon...
Looks bitter n mad
Wa Wa Wa Wa...
Started farming in 77’? Jesus F Christ, the interest rates were going through the roof
Timing is everything in life
Couldn't even get along with is own DAD!!!