With Honda's first generation of their electronic RealTime AWD (as opposed to their previous hydraulic setup), they only sent a max of 25% to the rear wheels (I'm going by various websites and forums I've scoured). By the time my HR-V came out in 2016 they improved the system to handle up to 40% to the rear. This is why the only way they could get off the rollers in the beginning is to shut off of the traction control and floor it.
The CRV required more throttle input than most CRV drivers have ever used in their entire lives 😂 pretty disappointed considering how good Honda AWD is on the ridgeline
Отличное видео! Как всегда! Спасибо за внимание к Субару. Надеюсь,что попадется Tribeca для съёмок. Поздравляю с прошедшими праздниками ! Желаю мира и добра!
This generation of CR-V, despite the so-called evolution of the 4wd Realtime system (which is only a commercial name since the system has nothing to do with it), managed by electronics is, it seems, really limited in terms of torque transfer to the rear. And this, despite a so-called fix. Worse, it seems to be even less efficient than the old Dual Pump system, even more so when coupled with a correctly calibrated traction control. Just look at your previous videos to see this.
Interesting thing is that apart the control method, the clutch-pack itself is exactly the same as in previous gen. But rear diff is much smaller and that's where the limitation comes...
@@kourloulinos It wouldn't cause there's no problem with engine torque. The problem is in rear diff which cannot transfer the torque. Here are other versions: ua-cam.com/video/QtNqREPTGpg/v-deo.html
The Real Time (dual pump?) system is a complete failure. Should've replaced it with at least VTM-4 long time ago...... The ACT-4 meanwhile is already very mature and will continue to be amended with improvements and enhancements over time (except for the CVT)......
This is exactly why I chose a Honda with a part-time system over Subaru and the full-time system they have. Had a Subaru years ago and eventually it would bind abruptly in sharp corners. Had to replace the whole transmission to fix it because it was mechanical and there was so way to turn off the AWD. Whereas with Honda's system, since it's electronically controlled, it can fall back on FWD if there's an issue with the AWD.
@@scott8919 Majority of current Subaru cars have electronically controlled S-AWD which can be set to FWD. In the past they even had additional fuse socket to make it FWD (ACT-4).
With Honda's first generation of their electronic RealTime AWD (as opposed to their previous hydraulic setup), they only sent a max of 25% to the rear wheels (I'm going by various websites and forums I've scoured). By the time my HR-V came out in 2016 they improved the system to handle up to 40% to the rear. This is why the only way they could get off the rollers in the beginning is to shut off of the traction control and floor it.
Tested CR-V is also from 2016.
And again Subaru proves to have a very good AWD system.
Glad to that bought one a year ago
Tbh, with all the low expectations I had for Honda, I was surprised to see that it managed the free front wheel relatively painless.
The Subaru barely knew it was on rollers. "Must have been a puddle or something."
Subaru rules! Honda is 4x4 only on paper.
Emotional damage to honda owner and awd system :D
Honda seems to have used the same software engineers that Toyota has used 🤣
Thanks for the test. Niva and Subaru rules. I think, Jimny vs. Subaru or Niva would be interesting
Here's Niva & Jimny: ua-cam.com/video/sItZnYZlYHw/v-deo.html
od razu widac, ktory producent potrafi w 4x4 a ktory nie
Subaru 💪💪💪
Godo test!! Thanks!
Glad I got a Sub.
The CRV required more throttle input than most CRV drivers have ever used in their entire lives 😂 pretty disappointed considering how good Honda AWD is on the ridgeline
Two different systems. The lightweight system in CR-Vs is RealTime AWD. The system in the Ridgeline is much more complex and it's called i-VTM4.
Отличное видео! Как всегда! Спасибо за внимание к Субару. Надеюсь,что попадется Tribeca для съёмок.
Поздравляю с прошедшими праздниками ! Желаю мира и добра!
Thank you!
Slava Ukraini!!
Hi, thank u for interesting content. Could you test honda 2 vs same years subaru forester in future?
Hi, thanks. There is a test of older HR-V vs Forester on our channel, check it out 🙂
This generation of CR-V, despite the so-called evolution of the 4wd Realtime system (which is only a commercial name since the system has nothing to do with it), managed by electronics is, it seems, really limited in terms of torque transfer to the rear.
And this, despite a so-called fix.
Worse, it seems to be even less efficient than the old Dual Pump system, even more so when coupled with a correctly calibrated traction control.
Just look at your previous videos to see this.
Interesting thing is that apart the control method, the clutch-pack itself is exactly the same as in previous gen. But rear diff is much smaller and that's where the limitation comes...
Have you ever tested the 2016 1.6 idtec 160 (diesel)?
Nope, we didn't test any CR-V diesel.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I was wondering if the 60Nm extra torque on the diesels would make any difference
@@kourloulinos It wouldn't cause there's no problem with engine torque. The problem is in rear diff which cannot transfer the torque. Here are other versions: ua-cam.com/video/QtNqREPTGpg/v-deo.html
The Real Time (dual pump?) system is a complete failure. Should've replaced it with at least VTM-4 long time ago......
The ACT-4 meanwhile is already very mature and will continue to be amended with improvements and enhancements over time (except for the CVT)......
It's not dual pump but newer system. Dual pump is here: ua-cam.com/video/d1qq-jdq6qg/v-deo.html
CRV rulzz with its almost useless AWD for a SUV
Is this HONDA's own 4WD system or other Tier1's production?
I have no information.
I guess what Honda lacks in awd capability it more than makes up for in reliability.
This is exactly why I chose a Honda with a part-time system over Subaru and the full-time system they have. Had a Subaru years ago and eventually it would bind abruptly in sharp corners. Had to replace the whole transmission to fix it because it was mechanical and there was so way to turn off the AWD. Whereas with Honda's system, since it's electronically controlled, it can fall back on FWD if there's an issue with the AWD.
@@scott8919 Majority of current Subaru cars have electronically controlled S-AWD which can be set to FWD. In the past they even had additional fuse socket to make it FWD (ACT-4).
SUBARU👋
If you could find a rav4 hybrid 22 or 23 thatd be great :)
Soon 🙂
2022 models please
Soon.
What a lag in crv 😱