Been trying to decide between a 3rd or 4th gen for my next daily. AWD is a big factor with the winters here - this video was a great resource for comparison.
Primary reason is for fuel efficiency, at the no x-mode reducing the torque sending to rear axle increases the gas mileage, and second reason is less aggressive mode allows higher speed range than full x-mode....
Super interesting, from test the SJ gives best results. However i would like to know if difference tire types and pressure. Also i think the age / km lifetime of gearbox etc. But from design i prefer the SH with intercooler air-intake on top.
i think the xmode on the newer subaru dirt mode turns off after going a certain amount of speed. Its supposed to not allow as much wheel spin as the mud mode
Blue one nailed the test! Looks like they reserved that ability to only deep snow mud on the new model. I assıme this would be done to reduce fuel consumption or for better handling?
I wonder how Sh forester passed the side roller & diagonal & 3roller tests even though VDC was turned off. As far as i know, this model comes with 4 eat Mpt system with VDC. Maybe there is an electronic differential lock without any relay and switch off button.
The white can do what the Blue can do on the right setting "Deep Snow and Mud". The white which is the 2020 model is more realiable compared to the 2019 model.
@@nagval7592 These three has ACT-4 S-AWD. Forester SG XT that we tested had VTD. If we wanted to compare SG here - we would have to find version with ACT-4.
I´ve been an owner fo a SH Forester and currently own a SJ Forester which I love. However this test was not equilibrated, because I can see that the blue (SJ gen) has some kind of mild off road tires, allowing it to have more grip than the other too. Also, the driver of that same model was way more agressive from the beginning, which is not ideal for this kind of test. He should be accelerating gradually and let the system do its job like the others did.
Tyres do not influence this test, cars are not missing the grip.. When it comes to being aggressive - way more is way more said. Driver of blue one could have been pressing the accelerator slightly faster but not harder, system takes control anyway.
SJ Forester (blue) got the rest beat, but to be fair I believe it's the XT model which means it has a turbo engine so it has more torque and power, The front bumper gave it away (I own one)
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Unless models are different in Europe from North America, the XT is the 2.0. The standard non-turbo has a 2.5 L engine. However, having said that, I'm not sure how much difference more torque would make for this test - it seems it's more about where the available torque is directed.
@@bwhammm Blue one is 2.0i, naturally aspirated. XT is 2.0T so turbocharged, we also tested such version. No big difference as there is not much torque needed in this test.
Been trying to decide between a 3rd or 4th gen for my next daily. AWD is a big factor with the winters here - this video was a great resource for comparison.
Excellent. Thank you for doing this with X-Mode and traction control both on and off.
I love your tests! Please test a Forester SH/SJ with manual transmission!
Thanks! If we find manuals, we'll test it for sure.
Proud owner of sj since 2014...
Im so glad I own a 2015 forester xt. Great comparison video.
Thank you!
Blue one had the least drama. I wonder why Subaru made the next gen less aggressive by default.
Primary reason is for fuel efficiency, at the no x-mode reducing the torque sending to rear axle increases the gas mileage, and second reason is less aggressive mode allows higher speed range than full x-mode....
So are the lower trims of the 2020 forester without the multiple x modes just shit out of luck? that seems crazy to me
Super interesting, from test the SJ gives best results. However i would like to know if difference tire types and pressure. Also i think the age / km lifetime of gearbox etc. But from design i prefer the SH with intercooler air-intake on top.
Tyres do not influence the test, pressure correct for each car.
i think the xmode on the newer subaru dirt mode turns off after going a certain amount of speed. Its supposed to not allow as much wheel spin as the mud mode
Soo the SJ has the most aggressive programming.
it looks like it, but it shouldn´t be that way. It´s the reason why i commented on the tires of the SJ.
@@AlbuermeduardoTires do not influence the test, there are no problems with grip.
SJ with one-level X-mode is the best tuned. SK is less aggresive to point out the new 2 level X-mode.
@@spongebobsquarepants2656 I disagree. The x-mode was revised and updated for the SK model.
@@Albuermeduardo Sure it was. And ? I can't see any advantage in traction over SJ. Even considering the e-boxer support.
Blue one nailed the test! Looks like they reserved that ability to only deep snow mud on the new model. I assıme this would be done to reduce fuel consumption or for better handling?
I think that both.
You have to watch till the end. X-mode made a difference
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I wonder how Sh forester passed the side roller & diagonal & 3roller tests even though VDC was turned off. As far as i know, this model comes with 4 eat Mpt system with VDC. Maybe there is an electronic differential lock without any relay and switch off button.
VDC includes traction control and stability control. Traction control is always active.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thank you.
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Ciekawy test. Mam niebieskiego, tylko że brązowego. ;-)
...and I love it.
The SJ is more aggressive AWD program and stiffer suspension. Just wonder why the SK is less in many way?
More aggressive doesn't mean better, that depends on conditions 🙂
El modelo SK tiene una barra estabilizadora mucho mas rigida. Y una suspension para carretera.
The white can do what the Blue can do on the right setting "Deep Snow and Mud". The white which is the 2020 model is more realiable compared to the 2019 model.
Надо было ещё вставить сюда SG XT который очень хорошо прошел тест.
SG XT had different awd system.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers так и у этих трёх она вся разная))
@@nagval7592 These three has ACT-4 S-AWD. Forester SG XT that we tested had VTD. If we wanted to compare SG here - we would have to find version with ACT-4.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ну мне кажется важна эффективность в целом.
I think it would be right to turn on manual mode and test at first gear
We're planning to that with SH.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollersAFAIK it makes a difference on SJ too
@@spongebobsquarepants2656 We tried with SJ, no difference.
I wonder how many folk know the brake and accelerator pedal trick. You can hack a roller test even with a 2WD
Quite a lot. Some of them tried that during the test, it didn't help.
Yes, it doesn't help even in my Legacy III 00' which gets stuck on two rollers.
Hi. Could you please explain about that trick with both pedals?
It is a myth. This only works with limited slip differentials.
worked back in the day but with modern ECUs, if you brake then it cuts the throttle.
Какое поколение из них самое лучшее в этом тесте на ваш взгляд?
IV and V. They are basically the same.
Did you Notice difference on SH forester with ABS on / off ?
ABS is not in use here.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers sorry I mean ESP , I drive SH 2012 with diesel manual gearbox. What is beter esp on or off on mud or snow?
@@brattikx777Usually it's better to have it on. However, when are driving through deep snow or when you are stuck - then turn it off.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks, have a nice evening.
The SH may have had a slightly worn center diff.
It's AT, there's no center diff but a clutch-pack.
I´ve been an owner fo a SH Forester and currently own a SJ Forester which I love. However this test was not equilibrated, because I can see that the blue (SJ gen) has some kind of mild off road tires, allowing it to have more grip than the other too. Also, the driver of that same model was way more agressive from the beginning, which is not ideal for this kind of test. He should be accelerating gradually and let the system do its job like the others did.
Tyres do not influence this test, cars are not missing the grip.. When it comes to being aggressive - way more is way more said. Driver of blue one could have been pressing the accelerator slightly faster but not harder, system takes control anyway.
seems like the car is sliding into the housing of the roller and getting grip there. i could be wrong
There is no contact between the housing and tyre: ua-cam.com/video/r3sXIfynGls/v-deo.htmlsi=cFWe-02rZnP_Th4A
SJ Forester (blue) got the rest beat, but to be fair I believe it's the XT model which means it has a turbo engine so it has more torque and power, The front bumper gave it away (I own one)
Nope, blue one is not XT, it's standard 2.0
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Unless models are different in Europe from North America, the XT is the 2.0. The standard non-turbo has a 2.5 L engine. However, having said that, I'm not sure how much difference more torque would make for this test - it seems it's more about where the available torque is directed.
@@bwhammm Blue one is 2.0i, naturally aspirated. XT is 2.0T so turbocharged, we also tested such version. No big difference as there is not much torque needed in this test.