Cold start Mini Cooper JCW R56 - HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP failing. *FIXED/SOLVED*

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024

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  • @GooIgeChrome
    @GooIgeChrome 2 роки тому +1

    This happened to my 2009 Mini Cooper s and ammco and pep boys couldn’t figure it out.Thanks !! Your video solved my problem and saved me money .

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  2 роки тому

      That is amazing news, glad it helped and you are more than welcome. :)

  • @spikepike42
    @spikepike42 6 років тому +10

    I had the same problem with my r56 cooper s. Brought another hpfp installed it (not a hard job) been perfect ever since 😄

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  6 років тому +3

      spikepike42 it is nice to hear a positive outcome for a change :)

  • @CDSmith123
    @CDSmith123 7 років тому +8

    This is exactly what is happening with my '07 r56! Thanks for sharing the video.

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  7 років тому +1

      CDSmith123 glad I could help :) sorry to hear though, hope you manage to get a decent price on it. Good luck!

    • @gavbrown6230
      @gavbrown6230 6 років тому

      Hi my r56 seems to try and stall on biteing point on cold start when setting off any ideas wot could be

    • @abdullahcetinbas2113
      @abdullahcetinbas2113 3 роки тому

      @@eddiedevilliers5580 hi bro .same problem. I have apr hpfp.starting late at the mornings. How can i fix thx

  • @danielakinart9238
    @danielakinart9238 2 роки тому +2

    I had the same issue with my R56 this past winter. As soon as more temperate weather came, the problem seems to have resolved itself.

    • @Enrico_E
      @Enrico_E Рік тому

      Keep looking on upgrading it...i had the same problem on my r56 07 like 3 months after i decided to change it... no more start problems

  • @progpuss
    @progpuss 3 роки тому +4

    Did mine on r56 Cooper s 2009 quoted 950 by garage , engine is a psa bmw collaboration so if you buy bmw part it’s 700 pounds , psa part 320 pounds they are the same part it’s a rip off I did job for 350 pounds that’s including some tools , torque wrench etc it took me 60 minutes and I’m not a mechanic.

  • @eddiedevilliers5580
    @eddiedevilliers5580  7 років тому +5

    Yes its my high pressure fuel pump! Cost of HPFP between £800 and £900. Labour 1 hour only.

    • @Cosm1c_69
      @Cosm1c_69 6 років тому

      900?! This is like thievery lol. I would not be surprised if it would be lambo or ferrari but hell 900 for fuel pump?! That is pure dumb price.

    • @KinggDucMatic
      @KinggDucMatic 4 роки тому

      You have a fuel pump on ebay to ;)

  • @nghiamedia
    @nghiamedia 4 роки тому +4

    2009 Mini Coopers (S) R56. MINI has extended the warranty of the High Pressure Injection Pump (HDP) from 4 years or 50,000 miles to 10 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, as determined by the original in-service date. This coverage expired on 11/22/2018. This is what I got from MINI Motoring Relations Representative.

  • @wensis2006
    @wensis2006 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video!
    I just leave it out here, I have the same problem.. Mine is going to be replaced tomorrow. I had starting failures eventually in cold mornings. Even driven around 1500 rpm mine begins to stutter and while using the clutch to drive from a stopsign (for example) it needs a little gas to drive off smoothly. Also my cooper s clubman R55 (N14) is not always putting out full power (stage 1 - 205hp). It does pull but it feels like it's holding back somehow and an unhealthy kind of acceleration.. One day the car stopped on the mids of a 4 way junction after idling a bit. And finally recieved an error code P3091.. well then I knew.
    For my fellow mini peeps out there buy a cheap obd2 module. It saves alot of headaches when you need to find some answers.

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  2 роки тому

      Good advice yes! Always handy to have OBD2 reader handy. Thank you for sharing your experience. Good luck with your Mini tomorrow and hope the Mini will be back on road soon again!

    • @wensis2006
      @wensis2006 2 роки тому +1

      @@eddiedevilliers5580 ahh yeah true, your video is a perfect example to help us figure out what is wrong! I will post an update tomorrow.. 😁

    • @danielakinart9238
      @danielakinart9238 2 роки тому

      so glad to know it's not just me ... I thought I had purchased a real lemon, but sounds like this is more of a common problem the more I read.

    • @wensis2006
      @wensis2006 2 роки тому +1

      Ahh I'm sorry I didn't put my results in the comment yet.
      Well replacing the high fuel pressure pump and fuel filter housing did alot.. But didn't solve it completely. It did make the car run a little better.. But it still was not perfect.. Also I found out I put in the wrong fuel. I did put the euro 98 in the tank but it was from a cheap gas station. They mix fuel with water I found out. And that makes the car run really bad in the end. My garage new this and told me to put in BP ultimate 98 or shell v-power. Well that made a difference as well because then I found out that it finally triggered the right error code... One of my injectors is faulty. Not by much.. Hence the reason I couldn't see what was going on. But enough to drive me crazy 😅.. Now I'm saving up to replace all the injectors. Better to do all 4 because.. Mini cooper s from 2008 is famouse for having bad fuel injectors by around 90 thousand kilometers. And mine is at 93k+ so yeah that would make sense.
      Well this is my update for now 😊

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  2 роки тому +1

      @@wensis2006 Great! Thank you for updating us! Once you replaced those injectors you'll put some new life into the Mini, enjoy every moment of it! :D

  • @alexanderthegreat2
    @alexanderthegreat2 5 років тому +2

    Just in the process of replacing the HPFP on a 2008 S. It was replaced by the previous owner but he ordered a refurbished part from China. I bought a refurbished MINI part (cost me $300 Canadian). OEM Mini part, brand new, will be close to $1000-$1500. Hope to get the part in the next week..in the meantime I removed the intake and hoses. I'll update when I receive the part. My car had the same symptoms and was firing MIL codes:
    - P3091- FUEL PUMP PRESSURE IS LOW
    - P2880- HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP
    All indications it's the HPFP.
    One thing MINI recommends is to replace the FUEL FEED LINE that connects the HPFP to the Fuel Rail if it is removed. This part will cost you in the range of $60-$100.

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  5 років тому

      Good luck and keep us posted please! :)

    • @ianchan9421
      @ianchan9421 4 роки тому

      So this sounds like mine. Got those exact codes. Replaced it with an eBay refurb one, ran mint for about 2500kms, now being problematic again however I don't have P2880 (HPFP) this time. I have P3091, P2177 (System Too Lean Off Idle - Bank 1), and P2188 (System Too Rich aat Idle - Bank 1). What do we think?

    • @han-a-kkincaid7170
      @han-a-kkincaid7170 2 роки тому

      @@ianchan9421 having that same issue, did you solve your problem?

    • @ianchan9421
      @ianchan9421 2 роки тому

      @@han-a-kkincaid7170 I ended up selling the car as is. New owner tried to buy another refurb but didnt last (again), so he ended up buying a genuine replacement. Not sure how it went after that

  • @JoseSandoval-ic5xe
    @JoseSandoval-ic5xe Рік тому

    Hi in the beginning of it failing would you have idle issues that were random??

  • @cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813
    @cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813 2 роки тому +1

    Very good master

  • @user-yo2cu2it2q
    @user-yo2cu2it2q 7 місяців тому

    Mine does this but never stalls so not sure if it’s the pump or fuel filter

  • @airgearmaster123
    @airgearmaster123 11 місяців тому

    I bought a refurb from china and it ran fine for a year an a few months. Now I have started seing symptoms again but it threw a P15FD code that suggest low pressure fuel pump which is the one in tank.

  • @andressandovalirola4159
    @andressandovalirola4159 7 років тому +1

    If in effect are the symptoms of failure in the high pressure fuel pump. I had the same problem, the solution is to replace it with a new one, because there is no way to repair it. Approximate cost $ 900-1000 + labor.

    • @devian1907
      @devian1907 5 років тому

      Nope you can repair it... They are saying "no repair" to sell products... In my country our mini services repair it with warranty.

    • @oliverheringhaus7933
      @oliverheringhaus7933 5 років тому

      Devian hey in what country are you located and how much do they charge for it?

    • @devian1907
      @devian1907 5 років тому

      @@oliverheringhaus7933 Turkiye.. new one about 500 dollars , repair cost 250-300 dollars

    • @denzelcrocker4956
      @denzelcrocker4956 3 роки тому

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    • @danielakinart9238
      @danielakinart9238 2 роки тому

      Jesus H Christ, not what I want to hear.

  • @DSdriver
    @DSdriver 4 роки тому +6

    These pumps are available new and in OEM quality at carparts shops and engine rebuild companies for less than 300 Euro's. So, no need to buy a refurbished one. I replaced mine myself in less than 1 hour about 1.5 years ago.
    (OEM means the part was produced by the same company that made the part for BMW/ PSA. Only the box and the prices are different...)

    • @sloanienz
      @sloanienz 4 роки тому

      Could you flick me a link? I have a refurbed one at the moment but I'm thinking it's cooked and I'll have to redo it.

    • @DSdriver
      @DSdriver 4 роки тому

      @@sloanienz Which country?

    • @DSdriver
      @DSdriver 4 роки тому

      @@sloanienz with what oe number did you buy the refurbished one? Or do you have an engine code? (some engines have a different high fuel pump. It looks the same...)

    • @sloanienz
      @sloanienz 4 роки тому

      ​@@DSdriver I have an N14. I'm in New Zealand so I have to ship stuff in no matter where I get it from. My car hasn't thrown a code yet but I've just got an OBD2 reader and need to do a cold start tomorrow morning to check the initial primed pump pressure. I've already replaced it once - with one I bought off Ali Express :P

    • @DSdriver
      @DSdriver 4 роки тому

      @@sloanienz New Zealand is a long way from Europe...;-)
      Here a link to a new pump I found on eBay.
      www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fits-for-06-16-PEUGEOT-MINI-High-Pressure-Metal-Electric-Fuel-Pump-13517588879/173937181978?hash=item287f76c51a:g:bsoAAOSwrQRdCLeQ

  • @scotty87able
    @scotty87able 2 роки тому +2

    once its warm its fine all day no doubt

  • @oliversworld6
    @oliversworld6 7 років тому

    so did you have to pay or was it covered under warranty

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  7 років тому

      Mike Clarke I had to pay for it all myself :( I tried to get it under warranty here in the UK but they did not have a care in the world to be honest. I went to my main dealer, also called customer service UK and they just said no it's not covered. When I showed them it's covered in the USA they just said well this is UK not USA.

    • @oliversworld6
      @oliversworld6 7 років тому

      amazing its not under warranty, just bought a brand new one myself

  • @RepLicanT00100
    @RepLicanT00100 5 років тому

    50 bar your saying ??
    I think mines going out as well, I love these cars but it has nearly broken me and has spent more times on stands than on the damn road ha. I’m not hoping anymore , I know once I replace this myself that will be it.

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  5 років тому

      Best of luck mate. I think some of us are luckier than others, but I had a pretty bad experience with my Mini I have to admit :P

  • @Theateist
    @Theateist 7 років тому

    will it make more damage if I'll drive like this to a dealership?

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  7 років тому

      Theateist I did. I guess it's not ideal , but I drove like a granny to dealer. Get it fixed asap though..!

    • @ambianknight6816
      @ambianknight6816 5 років тому +1

      No. Its not a mechanical failure. No metal on metal. Just fuel starvation. It's not ideal but you ain't going to break anything.

  • @evilsquirrel56231
    @evilsquirrel56231 4 роки тому

    What codes were you getting?

  • @FernandoGarcia-qu7zt
    @FernandoGarcia-qu7zt 5 років тому

    Was your engine misfiring?

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  5 років тому

      Yes. And also according to fault code there was misfire cylinder 1 and 2, but even after the fuel pump was replaced the error still occured. No misfires, however the fault code still remained.

  • @belovedLion80
    @belovedLion80 6 років тому

    You need dual OCC asap

  • @Pr0n3zz
    @Pr0n3zz 7 років тому

    when you drive, does it also feel like it doesnt want to go anywhere?

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  7 років тому

      Pr0n3zz yes at the time I sometimes would put my foot down, and a bit of a delay but randomly .
      I have fixed this by replacing the HPFP and so far no issues.

    • @Pr0n3zz
      @Pr0n3zz 7 років тому

      Thanks for the super fast response! I am experiencing similar symptoms. First we'll check air filters, spark plugs etc. If all that doesnt work I'll try the HPFP :)
      thanks again!

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  7 років тому +1

      Pr0n3zz Also check the actual connector Of air filter MASS sensor that clicks in. Previously I had lack of power and noticed one of the wires inside the connector came loose. So could be something small like that too.

    • @Pr0n3zz
      @Pr0n3zz 7 років тому

      Eddie de Villiers , will keep that in mind too! I checked the connector if it was plugged in, but not in the actual connector. Thanks again for all the help :)

    • @Pr0n3zz
      @Pr0n3zz 7 років тому +1

      Hi Eddie, Just to come back to the topic. It was indeed the HPFP. Unfortunately I did not have the time, tools or knowledge to fix it myself. It will cost us around ~€1500 at the BMW dealership (however they will replace more parts), might comment in a couple of days when I receive the full details. Feels bad after owning it for just 3 months :(

  • @eddiedevilliers5580
    @eddiedevilliers5580  6 років тому

    I have sold my Mini last year. In the end needed a new engine...! :(

    • @MegaOtirb
      @MegaOtirb 6 років тому +1

      I, mine has got the same problem, it has now 83.711km, i´m going to change the hpfp. Can you tell me what problems should i expect. When i read that in the end your car needed a new engine.......

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  6 років тому +1

      Miguel Miguel I have to admit that I ALWAYS had a Superkock Code come up since I purchased the car. I tried carbon cleaning, new water pump, new HPFP, new thermostat housing, need to have a think what else I replaced lol so many things but that code never dissapeared. So might just have been my Mini you might be lucky.

    • @MegaOtirb
      @MegaOtirb 6 років тому +1

      My car is from 2007, and as i wrote, only now the pump is damaged, besides that the car drinks up almost 1 liter of oil for 1000km, but mini say it´s normal, i forgot the water pump was replace under warranty.
      i like the car but if it is going to have multiple problems i sell the damn thing.

    • @eddiedevilliers5580
      @eddiedevilliers5580  6 років тому

      Miguel Miguel If you have NO fault codes, then you should be ok. HPFP can be fixed under warranty in USA. But not UK. I tried here in the UK but Mini did not want anything to do with it after me seeing them in person and emailing and calling.

    • @MegaOtirb
      @MegaOtirb 6 років тому +1

      You are correct, not only in the U.K but here in Portugal is the same Sh.t, i had a bmw with a common problem with the timing chain, is a well documented problem but what did bmw portugal said to me? in other words, go F.ck youself, thats right, is was almost what i just wrote. I sold the car, and now with the mini is the same, problems with the hpfp??? dont know nothing about it, they said, stupid assholes, if it was in the u.s they would have changed it in the 12 years warranty but in europe they do what they want.....

  • @zulfiahmad9733
    @zulfiahmad9733 7 років тому

    I have same problem, taking to dealer in a couple days. Guy said the pump is covered in extended warranty until 2019 or 200k. So fingers crossed its the pump issue otherwise labour and diagnosis is going to be bitch!

    • @Pr0n3zz
      @Pr0n3zz 7 років тому

      Hi Zulfi. Where do you live? and how did you find out about the extended warranty?