It’s A Tough Call But I Definitely Have to say that my preference is Yamaha for some of it’s History and I Like the Sound they Produce when and yes when they are in there power range and Yes Remember The Red Dragón Thank You for Showing One
@@bhaskaR1 The cub is undoubtedly the best selling vehicle in history even beating Ford's Model T. I know India has a large population. but, sales in India alone doesn't represent the sales of entire world for all time in history of modern vehicle.
I'm a cruiser rider. Most of Yamaha's cruisers are air cooled. Conversely, most of Honda's cruisers are liquid cooled. When you live in that part of the country where triple digit temps are the norm for summer, liquid cooled is the best option.
I have had the below from each: Yamaha Tenere 700 - owned for 4 years (sold after an accident) Yamaha MT-07 - owned for 5 years (sold after lot of wheelies) Yamaha XSR 900 - (still own and bought it in 2022.) Getting R1M soon Honda Rebel 1100 DCT - (still own bought in 2022) Honda CB1000R black edition (2021 model still own) Honda Monkey (still own - my favorite small bike) 2023 Honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP - will be delivered soon I have also ridden other Yamahas and Hondas. I still think Yamahas always put a smile and are exciting. Hondas are a bit more refined and bland. I would pick Yamaha always to ride but I own more Hondas right now.
As someone who spent her adolescent and teenage years as a diehard Honda fan and became a diehard Yamaha fan in her 20's, I'd say this is a super fair and realistic assessment. I'm head over heels in love with my xsr900 and yfz450r, but Honda will always hold a special place in my heart ❤️
I've owned both but I guess I always leaned toward Honda because of the availabilty of used ones in the size I was looking for and dependability. Yamaha is just as good and dependable Honda.
Yamaha for sure. I’ve had a YZ250, FZ8, and MT07. The MT line is enough to win it for me. All of their cross plane engines are fantastic. They’re the only Japanese manufacturer still making full size 2 stroke dirt bikes. Yamaha is easily ahead of Honda. With all that being said, I bought a Triumph last year and I am now an official Triumph simp
Thirty years ago I visited Japan for the first time to live and work. I’ve been back many times. Toured a few Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Toyota, Mazda and Mitsubishi factories over the years. We have six Hondas and one Toyota in the family. Enough said.
Fun for bucks, Yamaha has Honda beat. But I cannot help but fall in love with the flat plane inline 4 sound, so the Fireblade has a special place in my heart over the R1.
Absolutely Honda! I have owned 2 honda 125cc bike before and the engine conditions are absolutely good after uses it for almost 10 years. Then i took a clutch bike SYM VF3i 185. It is a Taiwan brand. Know what? Within 3 year it's engine gave problem. I hardly uses the bike for almost 2 years due to covid restrictions. When i trade in the bike, all the shop take it with a very low price. Some how i traded it and took Scooter Honda ADV 160. Man that bike is genius. No china bike, No taiwan bike, and no other brands bike. Go for Honda for it long run reliability.
It’s easily Honda for me. Cars. Bikes. Atv’s. Lawnmowers. You name it. There isn’t a single manufacturer that has done more for motor sports, as a whole, than Honda. I was never a fan of the r6 or r1. Riding position is uncomfortable for me. It was the same for the ninjas up until the 2010’s. Gixxers and cbr’s have just always fit me better. The triple r is a better bike than the r1m. I like the way my 2021 cbr1000rr looks, as compared to the r1. It’s slightly less powerful than the r1, but the majority of us will never capture the true potential of any of them, so being a couple percent more capable on a track is irrelevant. I’m eager to see how the hornet compares, and the word is that they are completely redoing the cb1000r, so it competes more with the naked bikes being produced right now. Pretty stoked to see what they come up with.
8:49 This is of course completely subjective, but I think the CB650R is a great beginner bike. I got my driver license last year at 36 years of age (which is pretty late I guess), so it was not too long ago that I had to look for a beginner bike. After first having driven the Z650, ER-6N, SV650 and a MT07, I chose the CB650R as my first motorcycle. If you stay below ~7000 rpm, it does not overwhelm a beginner and you can't really do anything wrong (unless you drive like a complete idiot). As soon as you go above ~7000 rpm though, it feels like someone swapped the bike while you are riding. The engine screams and the whole bike starts to pull, the character of the bike really changes. So: If you want to drive carefully and get to know the bike first, ride the CB650R up to like 7000 rpm. If you feel more comfortable and want to feel it pull and hear it scream, just ride it to the redline. A screaming 4-zylinder is a feeling, I don't want to miss from now on.
Sure Yamaha makes more exciting engines but their bikes often have cheaper body parts that rust or don’t have the same quality that Honda offers. Honda just has a more premium feel.
I’m a Kawasaki fan, but I’m not in denial of Hondas race history compared to other Japanese manufacturers nor their game changing bikes, CB-750, NSR500, Elsinore 250, and XR-650R, however, I due hold a spot in my garage for a Kenny Roberts edition RZ350.
I'm in Malaysia and Vietnam this week and the sheer domination of Honda motorcycles is very clear. 99% scooters, but still. I tried jumping on the Yam-train but I'm on my third Honda and it's hard to deny the quality.
In Vietnam, probably Honda has Yamaha beat. But Yamaha has Honda beaten hands down in Malaysia. Even though the Yamaha's are more expensive. Mostly due to cheapness and availability of aftermarket Yamaha spare parts and modifications. But I'm only talking about small cc mopeds and scooters. Most people here can't afford anything bigger.
After so many years of riding motorcycles, I believe that Yamaha is the most European, Japanese company out of the big 4 (Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki), with the reliability of Japan. Honda makes good bikes that are human-centric, Suzuki unbreakable engines and Yamaha bikes that excite the real rider with the way it handles and performs. I hope that in the future the European manufacturers will produce even more reliable motorcycles and the Japanese more European ones... Sorry for my bad English
Last month I went 2000 miles solo touring with my Yamaha MT 07. And I saw more Yamaha dealer in small town than other brand. I even went to the dealer in that small small town to fix the mirror and ask some lube chain and it was free. I love it. MT is not a touring bike but I'm not worry if something broke down
You almost did the classic moto-journalist cop out "...well, they're both good, it's just up to each rider to choose the best bike for themselves" but in the end you did a good job on the breakdown and the choice. Great video!
Honda sold that many two-wheelers partly due to them being extremely successful in India and other South Asian and South East Asian countries. Honda sells a shit ton on Activa scooters and small capacity motorcycles like the Unicorn, the SP Shine, and the CD110 here in India. Their CB160R was one of the best selling bikes here in India and their original 150cc Unicorn, which brought the concept of a rear monoshock in Indian motorcycles way back in 2003, is considered a legendary bike with many of the original models (with spoke wheels, a front disc brake, and a rear drum brake) still running around in either beaten up or in pristine conditions. They are so big, that they come very close to the volume that Hero Motocorp sells. Almost every India motorcyclist has sat on an Activa or Unicorn or Shine or CD110 at one point in their lives. When it comes to two-wheelers for the everyman, Honda is too big to fail.
This is true, my mom bought 2 Honda Activas, but think about the new r15 it is undisputed champ of that division right now, name another bike with quick shifter in India, r15 does all of that and gives insane milage. In the end i love both the brands and i own fzs but i will buy that mt15 in the future when they add quick shifter to that!!
I think Yamaha wins for exhaust sound, makes sense since they also make musical instruments. Especially for their 3 cylinder engines they borrowed from old Triumphs, the Rocket 3 is more about huge torque from huge pistons for a motorcycle to quickly wear out the back tire, with the engine looking like an old 4 cylinder Indian from the 40s.
I just got the '22 Honda NC750X DCT. Very solid bike and I'm happy with it. Yamaha may be more exciting - but Honda is flat out reliable and multipurpose. Also, Yamaha pricing lost me.
Honda for me. I love Yamaha and my old R6. But Honda makes smooth motorcycles that have a more “solid” and “premium” feel. They just have this “do everything right” feel that is the reason most people find them boring. They make models for every category of bike, and Honda has one of the most complete and diverse portfolio of any automaker in existence. Like they build everything from lawn mowers to a private Jet (HondaJet). Also, Honda really puts money into tech that matters (and is reliable), and the Goldwings are one hell of an achievement, along with the CBR1000RR-R
In my circle everyone who bought an Yamaha had some serious accidents, so it became a taboo brand in our group. So it's Honda all they way! Though Yamahas' are pretty neat machine
They're both world leaders in whatever they do, so who cares, just be grateful that they knock out fantastic, bikes, generators, musical instruments and cars etc at affordable prices for the populace.
Yamaha for me. Almost all the bikes I’ve owed have been Yam’s except one Suzuki 500 GT triple (this thing screamed). Can’t wait for the Tracer 9 GT+ to come to the US so I can resume riding again. Unless Yamaha will make a full liter Tracer.
I think you did a fine job explaining if someone was cross shopping these brands for motorcycles. There ain't no bad bikes, else they wouldn't be sold. It's true some manufacturers motorcycles do require more maintenance or more frequent maintenance. And the Japanese will always have high reliability since they built them like that and they sold heaps throughout the years. As for newer naked bikes of just these 2 manufacturers, I agree that Yamaha has more to offer in way or torque and more daring looks with the MT line. However due to being really common in Europe as well, I choose not to go that route. They sound awesome, ride better then ever as I heard then the earlier ones. Hence I agree with Yam with the popularity of the MT line for a decent price as well. I took all my lessons on a CB650R from 2020. And the 4 cylinder was such a joy to learn on and a fun peppy motorcycle as well. Aesthetic wise also hit the nail on the head for me. Easy to adept to as well. Rode a Z650 a several times as well, and it was definitely more vibraty compared to the Honda's, but a little more pep down in rpms, as it is a P-Twin. Pricewise MT's are still quite high in price compared to other mid sized bikes here in The Netherlands (all brands used market) But I will definitely ride an MT to try out and more brands as well. Looking back to all years I think they both did a fair share of nakeds which are still a common sight. E.g. Hornets/ Fazers and FZ's for just these 2 brands. Include other brands and there's a shit ton to choose from. So much fun! Can't wait to see other comparison vids. See if I can guess correct whichever "wins" since there ain't no bad bikes.
The R6 was the first motorcycle I knew by name, & I'd probably still class it as a dream bike (though, maybe I'll end up getting an R7 instead, now). I would also really like to try out a Honda Shadow, though.
My boy rides a 2008 r6 and I ride a 2012 hornet, the r6 is a fucking beauty man. My hornet leaves mt07s in the dust but the r6 has serious legs and when we get above 100mph I can't keep up with him 😂😂😂
Remember, rearsets and clip ons can be changed, you can't fit an inline 4 into a frame made for a parallel twin. In other words, you can make a CBR 650RR as racy as the R7, you can't make the R7 as fast as the CBR 650RR.
I've had the least problems and must fun on my Suzuki products. But to be fair, the most miles I racked up on a bike was a Yamaha YZF600r Thundercat at 106k miles on the clock before it dropped an intake valve.
Honda for looks, Yamaha for performance. Either or is good. The closest to a minimoto from Yamaha is the Tdubs, so Honda still edges them out for me, but the TW200 is still fantastic.
After a Honda 50cc moped in southern Italy, my first real motorcycle was a used 84 Honda CM-450 6-speed in Las Vegas. The day I got my learner permit I took off for San Diego at dusk (in 88). Put 10,000 miles a year on that bike for 4 years riding around the mountains and desert! Saw its twin in the back of a powesports garage up against a wall, same colour, 30 years later! Felt like a toy after 6 months, but what a great toy! Rode that champ from 300 feet below sea level to 8,400 feet elevation. 👍 Now riding a 2013 Honda shadow spirit 750 and a 2022 Yamaha BWs 125 Zuma.
Can't really argue with the Goldwing in any way shape or form but I'd still rather be blasting down the twisties on my FJR1300. Owner of 3 Yamahas so.... There you have it. And I can see a blue and gold XSR900 in my future! 💙 For the record, I have a whole family full of Honda cars!
My first motorcycle was a 2020 Honda shadow 750 that I absolutely adored. It was such a good low speed town cruiser, I just wish it had the highway in mind. Which is why I upgraded to a Suzuki m109r (go big or go home right?) But my next bike is definitely gonna be a cbr650r
Bought a used 2013 Honda Shadow Spirit 750, losded it up with saddle bags, rear seatbag and tank bag and barreled out from SW Ohio 720 miles to Omaha Nebrasca in a day then back a few days later. Need the upgrade the seat to make riding more than 90 miles bearable after the first 120. Tank could have more range; but It’s farther than my butt can endure for now. Riding solo against western winds at 75-80 all day, it does the job comfortably.
I started on a R3 but Honda just offers more variety that interests me. I currently have a SV650S, but I see my next bike after that probably being a Honda. Maybe even the CB500 because I have quite the soft spot for small bikes and I sometimes miss my R3
Can't recommend the CB500 series in general IMO. Excepr the rebel 500 They are very heavy for 48hp and rather expensive Go for the ninja 400, R3 or if you are feeling diffrent, the rc390
@@someguy9520 money isnt the issue ride it love it then buy it . u don t know the taste until u try it buy the bikes that fits u rather than listening to others recommendation that is the better way
I grew up with a lot of motorcycles, especially cafe racers (because they were great tricycles, which is a public transportation for us.) so any cafe racer for me is just... always winning lol
I grew up riding UJMs, it was always Honda & "Everyone Else" apart from the odd outlier like the Krazy Kawasaki 2 strokes & the superb Yamaha RD350LC....but somewhere along the way Honda became boring & now I only have eyes for Yamaha. Honda are now reduced to either utterly drab "I have lost my soul" Honda Rebel's or "I've worn out the R key on my keyboard" Honda RRRR-CBr-RRRR1000R-RRRRRRs that are torture for your spine but great business for your chiropractor. My Yamaha just felt right as soon as I rode it, even though the looks can be something that causes a wince every now & then.
In Africa Honda is more expensive to buy and to service. For me Honda 90 Trail Bike, CB200, XR200, XR 500, Africa Twin. Yamaha DT127=, DT175, YZF 600, YZF250, Tenere 700, , R3, R6, R1 SR250....Super Tenere. 1200........YB250 T07.....
Always been Suzuki fan, and hated Yamaha, well till 2 years ago one FZ6 came on deal and got one as to try it out.. what a bike! Still dreaming of that Fireblade and H2R however 😏 so yes I like them all 😅
Currently, I believe Yamaha takes it because they have been making really competitive bikes such as the r7, r1m and a couple more. However old Honda> Old Yamaha because god damn did Honda know what was good in the 90s, the 900rr was amazing, and the blackbird was a beast as well. So I would say that the two are tied as overall brands.
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Yamaha definitely wins the cruiser category with the V-Max hands down. Middleweight class goes to Honda only because Yamaha stopped making the R6. Liter bike category is kind of a toss up between the Fireblade and the R1, ultimately I think Yamaha wins though because the Fireblade is so expensive. Naked category goes to Yamaha with the MT-10 and it’s beautiful cross plane engine. I man who doesn’t want a naked version of the R1? If Honda would just get its performance up just a little bit on some of their models they would dominate in every category hands down. Not sure why they choose not to
Looks wise and street presence the CB650 definitely wins over the MT-07. I found the MT’s always look too small and average sized Caucasian male rider (I’m in Australia) generally looks awkwardly large on one
The Yamaha vs Honda battle in the motorcycle world is very similar to the Honda vs Toyota battle in the car world. Where the smaller brands (Yamaha and Honda) have far less options, a lesser reputation of reliability, but a few far more sporty and fun to drive models.
I started riding on a Honda VLX 600 then got myself a Yamaha Bolt. Not sure what I would upgrade to since there's a lot that sound great. I really like the Honda Hornet, the Honda Fury, and the Yamaha XSR700 along with a few other things. My dad had a Yamaha Road Star 1700 and he loved it until he got a HD Road King (for some reason).
T7 is a game changing bike based on cost vs utility. Generally agree as owner of 2022 Tracer 9GT (no mention? more than one nod for bike of the year in 2021) and a T7. Yamaha kicks ass. Thanks.
Honda's engines to me have always been very special. They deliver such incredible performance, reliability and transparent charecter without needing much displacement. Honda is just the king for me, in cars, motorcycles and even jets.
Order of service thus far: Honda Reflex Yamaha Majesty Honda Reflex, again Yamaha T-Max Honda ST 1100 Kawasaki Concourse 14 Honda Grom Yamaha FZ-07 and presently, Yamaha XT 250 Honda Goldwing Both Honda and Yamaha are aces! (Connie wasn't so bad neither!)
We need these companies to offer the same bikes (motorcycle and maxi scooters) available in the EUROPE to the USA !! The ONLY maxi scooter (350cc) that I could buy was a Yamaha XMAX.
In Sep. of 2022 I got my motorcycle endorsement on my drivers license. Have been waiting for the 2023 models to come out, I really like the CB650R and put my order on Jan. 11 at 6:30AM about 5 hours after the Powersport web page was updated. I took the Idaho Star Motorcycle class and will take it again when scooter is delivered. I need lots of refreshers, in I 1965 bought a new Honda CB100, had it for 3 years. Hope it is delivered before the end of February that is when I turn 80, wish me luck.
The Niken is far more complex than my old ATC Honda, sort of mirror imagines, insofar as 3-wheels. Also the big or Super Tenere, with the shaft drive = baby-beemer-but-better, the triumph-style triples etc. the bolt, really good eye for know what is quintessential and worth copying, no sense in cheating off second best. Yamaha preserves gold, the old triple, the old Sportster, Yamaha does the those 'second run brew pub theaters', rather well...
For sure honda ,they never let me down ,Just flat tires Driving now already 40 years ,build quality is far better and the best is when you drive a new honda 5 miles , its like you own that bike six montessorischool Driving now vfr 800 v tec and cbr 1000 no issues at all
I tend to view Yamaha/Honda much in the way I view Toyota/Mazda for cars. Toyota is more practical and utilitarian, but Mazda makes a more fun car for drivers. I've owned products from both brands and haven't ever regretted it. I tend to favor Honda for cruisers and smaller displacement bikes while I prefer Yamaha for more performance oriented bikes... the one exception being the Goldwing which is in a class of its own.
The New Honda CBR 1000RR is coming with the most Hp 117 Hp from the all 4 brands....but I'm not in favor of Honda I'm most Yamaha and Suzuki.... Great 👍 info son...
My first bike that wasn't a Briggs and Stratton was a 68 Honda Mini Trail, followed by a 79 CM180 with knobby tires, followed by riding my dad's 74 XT500 around the streets at 15 years old. I would have trouble picking one over the other. Yamaha really needs to make another XT with a decent amount of displacement though.
My only problem with Yamaha is im on the "hate it" side of the Mt looks argument. And I've never found an Xsr for sale at a dealer. If I didn't know better I'd be willing to bet they don't actually exist lol. Cb650r looks cool but expensive for what you get and also was hard to find when I bought last year. Went a different route and got a triumph trident and love it. Styling is perfect for me and it's unique. Turns alot of heads. Triumph reliability is TBD. Some say it's great, we'll see
Honda in terms of reliability. Own a street triple rs and a CB650R. My brother has been a fan of Yamaha he owns an R6 and an MT-09, They're reliable yes at certain point but the exhaust sounds on that one even in stock are pretty darn good.
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It’s A Tough Call But I Definitely Have to say that my preference is Yamaha for some of it’s History and I Like the Sound they Produce when and yes when they are in there power range and Yes Remember The Red Dragón Thank You for Showing One
And I Absolutely Love The R6 and yes it’s not about comfort
All yeah All Honda’s 125’s are probably in India
Yamaha All Day
Just a note: Honda's Super Cub isn't just one of the best-selling motorcycles of all time, it's THE best-selling vehicle of all time. Ever.
Come here in India and you'll get to know about hero splendor. Check the sales volumes and compare yourself
@@bhaskaR1 The cub is undoubtedly the best selling vehicle in history even beating Ford's Model T.
I know India has a large population. but, sales in India alone doesn't represent the sales of entire world for all time in history of modern vehicle.
@@Arzack711 as an indian i agree with your opinion sadly not everyone in our country understands that
@@bhaskaR1 man why 🤦
@@chandansoren8002 😂😂 we have habit of putting anything anywhere
I'm a cruiser rider. Most of Yamaha's cruisers are air cooled. Conversely, most of Honda's cruisers are liquid cooled. When you live in that part of the country where triple digit temps are the norm for summer, liquid cooled is the best option.
I ride my VTX1300 in Houston year round. Great bike!
It’s the best where it’s cold too. It’s just better to have a liquid cooled engine unless you’re trying to go retro
rural zones You are fucked if the system don't work @@monkmoto1887
I have had the below from each:
Yamaha Tenere 700 - owned for 4 years (sold after an accident)
Yamaha MT-07 - owned for 5 years (sold after lot of wheelies)
Yamaha XSR 900 - (still own and bought it in 2022.)
Getting R1M soon
Honda Rebel 1100 DCT - (still own bought in 2022)
Honda CB1000R black edition (2021 model still own)
Honda Monkey (still own - my favorite small bike)
2023 Honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP - will be delivered soon
I have also ridden other Yamahas and Hondas. I still think Yamahas always put a smile and are exciting. Hondas are a bit more refined and bland.
I would pick Yamaha always to ride but I own more Hondas right now.
As someone who spent her adolescent and teenage years as a diehard Honda fan and became a diehard Yamaha fan in her 20's, I'd say this is a super fair and realistic assessment. I'm head over heels in love with my xsr900 and yfz450r, but Honda will always hold a special place in my heart ❤️
I've owned both but I guess I always leaned toward Honda because of the availabilty of used ones in the size I was looking for and dependability. Yamaha is just as good and dependable Honda.
Yamaha for sure. I’ve had a YZ250, FZ8, and MT07. The MT line is enough to win it for me. All of their cross plane engines are fantastic. They’re the only Japanese manufacturer still making full size 2 stroke dirt bikes. Yamaha is easily ahead of Honda. With all that being said, I bought a Triumph last year and I am now an official Triumph simp
I've ridden Yamaha's and nothing but. I do respect Honda though, its a very fine company. I'm on my 8th Yamaha, and second R1.
Post up some bike videos man, your original content is all video games? I agree about the MT line!
@@JOEBOWERY yeah I just upload clips so my friends and I can laugh about them later haha. Might do some bike stuff once riding season starts.
Honda everyday of the week
Yup lifelong Honda fanboy here currently on a ‘22 XSR 900 . A few years ago my FZ-07 brought me over to the blue side. I doubt I’ll ever go back
Thirty years ago I visited Japan for the first time to live and work. I’ve been back many times. Toured a few Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Toyota, Mazda and Mitsubishi factories over the years. We have six Hondas and one Toyota in the family. Enough said.
You definitely enjoying world's best reliable machines with better build quality .
Fun for bucks, Yamaha has Honda beat. But I cannot help but fall in love with the flat plane inline 4 sound, so the Fireblade has a special place in my heart over the R1.
I also like the sharp sound of the fireblade 👌🏻 when you rev it up it screams like nothing else
is the fireblade motor different than the 1000rr
Absolutely Honda! I have owned 2 honda 125cc bike before and the engine conditions are absolutely good after uses it for almost 10 years. Then i took a clutch bike SYM VF3i 185. It is a Taiwan brand. Know what? Within 3 year it's engine gave problem. I hardly uses the bike for almost 2 years due to covid restrictions. When i trade in the bike, all the shop take it with a very low price. Some how i traded it and took Scooter Honda ADV 160. Man that bike is genius. No china bike, No taiwan bike, and no other brands bike. Go for Honda for it long run reliability.
It’s easily Honda for me. Cars. Bikes. Atv’s. Lawnmowers. You name it. There isn’t a single manufacturer that has done more for motor sports, as a whole, than Honda. I was never a fan of the r6 or r1. Riding position is uncomfortable for me. It was the same for the ninjas up until the 2010’s. Gixxers and cbr’s have just always fit me better. The triple r is a better bike than the r1m. I like the way my 2021 cbr1000rr looks, as compared to the r1. It’s slightly less powerful than the r1, but the majority of us will never capture the true potential of any of them, so being a couple percent more capable on a track is irrelevant. I’m eager to see how the hornet compares, and the word is that they are completely redoing the cb1000r, so it competes more with the naked bikes being produced right now. Pretty stoked to see what they come up with.
Comparing my CBR to the R6, I felt more comfortable on my CBR.
r6 and cbr600 are equal. best 600 is the 636
R6 win the races!!
8:49 This is of course completely subjective, but I think the CB650R is a great beginner bike. I got my driver license last year at 36 years of age (which is pretty late I guess), so it was not too long ago that I had to look for a beginner bike. After first having driven the Z650, ER-6N, SV650 and a MT07, I chose the CB650R as my first motorcycle.
If you stay below ~7000 rpm, it does not overwhelm a beginner and you can't really do anything wrong (unless you drive like a complete idiot). As soon as you go above ~7000 rpm though, it feels like someone swapped the bike while you are riding. The engine screams and the whole bike starts to pull, the character of the bike really changes.
So: If you want to drive carefully and get to know the bike first, ride the CB650R up to like 7000 rpm. If you feel more comfortable and want to feel it pull and hear it scream, just ride it to the redline. A screaming 4-zylinder is a feeling, I don't want to miss from now on.
Sure Yamaha makes more exciting engines but their bikes often have cheaper body parts that rust or don’t have the same quality that Honda offers. Honda just has a more premium feel.
I’m a Kawasaki fan, but I’m not in denial of Hondas race history compared to other Japanese manufacturers nor their game changing bikes, CB-750, NSR500, Elsinore 250, and XR-650R, however, I due hold a spot in my garage for a Kenny Roberts edition RZ350.
I'm in Malaysia and Vietnam this week and the sheer domination of Honda motorcycles is very clear. 99% scooters, but still. I tried jumping on the Yam-train but I'm on my third Honda and it's hard to deny the quality.
In Vietnam, probably Honda has Yamaha beat. But Yamaha has Honda beaten hands down in Malaysia. Even though the Yamaha's are more expensive. Mostly due to cheapness and availability of aftermarket Yamaha spare parts and modifications. But I'm only talking about small cc mopeds and scooters. Most people here can't afford anything bigger.
After so many years of riding motorcycles, I believe that Yamaha is the most European, Japanese company out of the big 4 (Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki), with the reliability of Japan. Honda makes good bikes that are human-centric, Suzuki unbreakable engines and Yamaha bikes that excite the real rider with the way it handles and performs. I hope that in the future the European manufacturers will produce even more reliable motorcycles and the Japanese more European ones... Sorry for my bad English
I'll go for Honda for reliability. I have my bike since 2006 alive and still kickin
Last month I went 2000 miles solo touring with my Yamaha MT 07. And I saw more Yamaha dealer in small town than other brand. I even went to the dealer in that small small town to fix the mirror and ask some lube chain and it was free. I love it. MT is not a touring bike but I'm not worry if something broke down
Just bought my Honda Rebel 1100, my first bike ever and I absolutely love this thing
I seriously love the end of these videos... I promise to keep watching!
I have owned both and those have been fantastic. Taste/style/use determine "best" in many cases.
You almost did the classic moto-journalist cop out "...well, they're both good, it's just up to each rider to choose the best bike for themselves" but in the end you did a good job on the breakdown and the choice. Great video!
Honda sold that many two-wheelers partly due to them being extremely successful in India and other South Asian and South East Asian countries. Honda sells a shit ton on Activa scooters and small capacity motorcycles like the Unicorn, the SP Shine, and the CD110 here in India. Their CB160R was one of the best selling bikes here in India and their original 150cc Unicorn, which brought the concept of a rear monoshock in Indian motorcycles way back in 2003, is considered a legendary bike with many of the original models (with spoke wheels, a front disc brake, and a rear drum brake) still running around in either beaten up or in pristine conditions. They are so big, that they come very close to the volume that Hero Motocorp sells. Almost every India motorcyclist has sat on an Activa or Unicorn or Shine or CD110 at one point in their lives. When it comes to two-wheelers for the everyman, Honda is too big to fail.
This is true, my mom bought 2 Honda Activas, but think about the new r15 it is undisputed champ of that division right now, name another bike with quick shifter in India, r15 does all of that and gives insane milage. In the end i love both the brands and i own fzs but i will buy that mt15 in the future when they add quick shifter to that!!
I think Yamaha wins for exhaust sound, makes sense since they also make musical instruments. Especially for their 3 cylinder engines they borrowed from old Triumphs, the Rocket 3 is more about huge torque from huge pistons for a motorcycle to quickly wear out the back tire, with the engine looking like an old 4 cylinder Indian from the 40s.
I prefer Yamaha - GIGA PETE
I've owned a r6 and currently ride a 954rr, both are fantastic. Never had problems with either of them
I just got the '22 Honda NC750X DCT. Very solid bike and I'm happy with it. Yamaha may be more exciting - but Honda is flat out reliable and multipurpose. Also, Yamaha pricing lost me.
Honda for me. I love Yamaha and my old R6. But Honda makes smooth motorcycles that have a more “solid” and “premium” feel. They just have this “do everything right” feel that is the reason most people find them boring. They make models for every category of bike, and Honda has one of the most complete and diverse portfolio of any automaker in existence. Like they build everything from lawn mowers to a private Jet (HondaJet). Also, Honda really puts money into tech that matters (and is reliable), and the Goldwings are one hell of an achievement, along with the CBR1000RR-R
I've Yamaha FZS V1.. Very satisfied with this..
Hamaya & Yomda! Love em both lol. Never had issues with either 🤷 💯
had a FZ8 and now FZ10 loved them ❤️😃👍❤️ Yamaha #1❤️
Kenny Rogers was a country singer, Kenny Roberts rode bikes fast
Yep he said Kenny Rogers....sad to think one of best U.S. racers ever has his last name mispronounced.
In my circle everyone who bought an Yamaha had some serious accidents, so it became a taboo brand in our group. So it's Honda all they way! Though Yamahas' are pretty neat machine
I prefer both
Both r good
Both r smart
Both r excellent
Over all
I have both
They're both world leaders in whatever they do, so who cares, just be grateful that they knock out fantastic, bikes, generators, musical instruments and cars etc at affordable prices for the populace.
Yamaha for me. Almost all the bikes I’ve owed have been Yam’s except one Suzuki 500 GT triple (this thing screamed). Can’t wait for the Tracer 9 GT+ to come to the US so I can resume riding again. Unless Yamaha will make a full liter Tracer.
I think you did a fine job explaining if someone was cross shopping these brands for motorcycles.
There ain't no bad bikes, else they wouldn't be sold. It's true some manufacturers motorcycles do require more maintenance or more frequent maintenance.
And the Japanese will always have high reliability since they built them like that and they sold heaps throughout the years.
As for newer naked bikes of just these 2 manufacturers, I agree that Yamaha has more to offer in way or torque and more daring looks with the MT line.
However due to being really common in Europe as well, I choose not to go that route. They sound awesome, ride better then ever as I heard then the earlier ones.
Hence I agree with Yam with the popularity of the MT line for a decent price as well.
I took all my lessons on a CB650R from 2020. And the 4 cylinder was such a joy to learn on and a fun peppy motorcycle as well. Aesthetic wise also hit the nail on the head for me. Easy to adept to as well.
Rode a Z650 a several times as well, and it was definitely more vibraty compared to the Honda's, but a little more pep down in rpms, as it is a P-Twin.
Pricewise MT's are still quite high in price compared to other mid sized bikes here in The Netherlands (all brands used market)
But I will definitely ride an MT to try out and more brands as well.
Looking back to all years I think they both did a fair share of nakeds which are still a common sight. E.g. Hornets/ Fazers and FZ's for just these 2 brands.
Include other brands and there's a shit ton to choose from. So much fun! Can't wait to see other comparison vids. See if I can guess correct whichever "wins" since there ain't no bad bikes.
The R6 was the first motorcycle I knew by name, & I'd probably still class it as a dream bike (though, maybe I'll end up getting an R7 instead, now). I would also really like to try out a Honda Shadow, though.
My boy rides a 2008 r6 and I ride a 2012 hornet, the r6 is a fucking beauty man. My hornet leaves mt07s in the dust but the r6 has serious legs and when we get above 100mph I can't keep up with him 😂😂😂
Remember, rearsets and clip ons can be changed, you can't fit an inline 4 into a frame made for a parallel twin.
In other words, you can make a CBR 650RR as racy as the R7, you can't make the R7 as fast as the CBR 650RR.
I've had the least problems and must fun on my Suzuki products. But to be fair, the most miles I racked up on a bike was a Yamaha YZF600r Thundercat at 106k miles on the clock before it dropped an intake valve.
i prefer yamaha specially yaaha r6 and yamaha bolt r
Yammie noob, not surprised. HONDA! Honda:78 XL 185, 80 CM 400T, 83 V45 Sabre, 86 Rebel 250, 2020 CB 500x, 80 1.2 L Civic, 88 1.5 L CRX, 96 2 L Accord - all great Yamaha:. 81 750 Virago - starter issues, 88 XT-350 - good but kick start only.
Honda for looks, Yamaha for performance. Either or is good.
The closest to a minimoto from Yamaha is the Tdubs, so Honda still edges them out for me, but the TW200 is still fantastic.
You gotta a make a “Do you prefer” playlist mate 👍
Both are appealing, as you've said.....depends on what you're interested in.....
Tks. much.
Not a huge Yamaha fan, but really love older Suzuki! For that reason I only ride Honda!
Just bought a 2007 cbr600rr recently and it is all i could ask for
Never knew Kenny ROGERS raced motorcycles. 😀
After a Honda 50cc moped in southern Italy, my first real motorcycle was a used 84 Honda CM-450 6-speed in Las Vegas. The day I got my learner permit I took off for San Diego at dusk (in 88). Put 10,000 miles a year on that bike for 4 years riding around the mountains and desert! Saw its twin in the back of a powesports garage up against a wall, same colour, 30 years later! Felt like a toy after 6 months, but what a great toy! Rode that champ from 300 feet below sea level to 8,400 feet elevation. 👍 Now riding a 2013 Honda shadow spirit 750 and a 2022 Yamaha BWs 125 Zuma.
Can't really argue with the Goldwing in any way shape or form but I'd still rather be blasting down the twisties on my FJR1300. Owner of 3 Yamahas so.... There you have it.
And I can see a blue and gold XSR900 in my future! 💙
For the record, I have a whole family full of Honda cars!
My first motorcycle was a 2020 Honda shadow 750 that I absolutely adored. It was such a good low speed town cruiser, I just wish it had the highway in mind. Which is why I upgraded to a Suzuki m109r (go big or go home right?) But my next bike is definitely gonna be a cbr650r
Bought a used 2013 Honda Shadow Spirit 750, losded it up with saddle bags, rear seatbag and tank bag and barreled out from SW Ohio 720 miles to Omaha Nebrasca in a day then back a few days later. Need the upgrade the seat to make riding more than 90 miles bearable after the first 120. Tank could have more range; but It’s farther than my butt can endure for now. Riding solo against western winds at 75-80 all day, it does the job comfortably.
I started on a R3 but Honda just offers more variety that interests me. I currently have a SV650S, but I see my next bike after that probably being a Honda. Maybe even the CB500 because I have quite the soft spot for small bikes and I sometimes miss my R3
Can't recommend the CB500 series in general IMO. Excepr the rebel 500
They are very heavy for 48hp and rather expensive
Go for the ninja 400, R3 or if you are feeling diffrent, the rc390
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My R1 was far more smooth than my CBR600RR. As a result, my CBR became my commuter and my R1 was my weekend ride in the mountains.
I’d take any Japanese brand for reliability, but as much as I respect Honda, there’s just nothing that excites me when I look at their bikes.
I grew up with a lot of motorcycles, especially cafe racers (because they were great tricycles, which is a public transportation for us.) so any cafe racer for me is just... always winning lol
I grew up riding UJMs, it was always Honda & "Everyone Else" apart from the odd outlier like the Krazy Kawasaki 2 strokes & the superb Yamaha RD350LC....but somewhere along the way Honda became boring & now I only have eyes for Yamaha. Honda are now reduced to either utterly drab "I have lost my soul" Honda Rebel's or "I've worn out the R key on my keyboard" Honda RRRR-CBr-RRRR1000R-RRRRRRs that are torture for your spine but great business for your chiropractor. My Yamaha just felt right as soon as I rode it, even though the looks can be something that causes a wince every now & then.
I’d happily own either. Unfortunately for Honda, my favorite color is blue.
One or the other, depends on what model suits my needs.
In Africa Honda is more expensive to buy and to service. For me Honda 90 Trail Bike, CB200, XR200, XR 500, Africa Twin. Yamaha DT127=, DT175, YZF 600, YZF250, Tenere 700, , R3, R6, R1 SR250....Super Tenere. 1200........YB250 T07.....
Always been Suzuki fan, and hated Yamaha, well till 2 years ago one FZ6 came on deal and got one as to try it out.. what a bike! Still dreaming of that Fireblade and H2R however 😏 so yes I like them all 😅
Currently, I believe Yamaha takes it because they have been making really competitive bikes such as the r7, r1m and a couple more. However old Honda> Old Yamaha because god damn did Honda know what was good in the 90s, the 900rr was amazing, and the blackbird was a beast as well. So I would say that the two are tied as overall brands.
Depends on the bike. Cbr600rr>r6, cb650r> mt07, mt09/mt10> cb1000r, r1> cbr1000rr. Both brands make great bikes. It's all up to ones opinion.
Who would've known. After years of watching yammienoob, and dreaming to get a Honda. I now drive a yamaha. I guess I'm also now a yammienoob
I didn’t know Kenny Rogers was such an accomplished rider. 😂
Seriously though, good vids. 👊
Re gloves: Bill Stampfle landed his (legal) BASE jump once-face-first, to protect his hands, he said 'a bloody face is nothing, tou need you hands to survive' . Save your hands was his philosophy
Yamaha definitely wins the cruiser category with the V-Max hands down. Middleweight class goes to Honda only because Yamaha stopped making the R6. Liter bike category is kind of a toss up between the Fireblade and the R1, ultimately I think Yamaha wins though because the Fireblade is so expensive. Naked category goes to Yamaha with the MT-10 and it’s beautiful cross plane engine. I man who doesn’t want a naked version of the R1? If Honda would just get its performance up just a little bit on some of their models they would dominate in every category hands down. Not sure why they choose not to
I'm in an odd place. Marc is my favorite rider, but I've been a Yamaha fanboy since I knew what a motorcycle was.
I prefer Yamaha since i started watching your content.
Looks wise and street presence the CB650 definitely wins over the MT-07.
I found the MT’s always look too small and average sized Caucasian male rider (I’m in Australia) generally looks awkwardly large on one
Cand beat a good HONDA!!!
Also the R1 cnad hold a candle to the CBR!
I have both, finally choose for both, Yamaha MT-09 gen1, Honda CB650F, Honda Africa twin, Yamaha Tracer 9GT+
The Yamaha vs Honda battle in the motorcycle world is very similar to the Honda vs Toyota battle in the car world. Where the smaller brands (Yamaha and Honda) have far less options, a lesser reputation of reliability, but a few far more sporty and fun to drive models.
Yamaha make engine for Toyota
What's the bike at 4:51
I started riding on a Honda VLX 600 then got myself a Yamaha Bolt. Not sure what I would upgrade to since there's a lot that sound great. I really like the Honda Hornet, the Honda Fury, and the Yamaha XSR700 along with a few other things. My dad had a Yamaha Road Star 1700 and he loved it until he got a HD Road King (for some reason).
1)Suzuki 2) Yamaha 3)Honda 4)Kawasaki I've owned them all and LOVED every one of them.
T7 is a game changing bike based on cost vs utility. Generally agree as owner of 2022 Tracer 9GT (no mention? more than one nod for bike of the year in 2021) and a T7. Yamaha kicks ass. Thanks.
Honda's engines to me have always been very special. They deliver such incredible performance, reliability and transparent charecter without needing much displacement. Honda is just the king for me, in cars, motorcycles and even jets.
For me it's Yamaha 2 stroke in the dirt and Honda 4 stroke on the road.
I had a Yamaha sz150...it was excellent, reliable. Now i have a honda cb350 very comfortable and smooth...i heard it's reliable..i love both ..
Order of service thus far:
Honda Reflex
Yamaha Majesty
Honda Reflex, again
Yamaha T-Max
Honda ST 1100
Kawasaki Concourse 14
Honda Grom
Yamaha FZ-07
and presently,
Yamaha XT 250
Honda Goldwing
Both Honda and Yamaha are aces! (Connie wasn't so bad neither!)
We need these companies to offer the same bikes (motorcycle and maxi scooters) available in the EUROPE to the USA !! The ONLY maxi scooter (350cc) that I could buy was a Yamaha XMAX.
I love the end KEEP WATCHING YAMMIE NOOB
In Sep. of 2022 I got my motorcycle endorsement on my drivers license. Have been waiting for the 2023 models to come out, I really like the CB650R and put my order on Jan. 11 at 6:30AM about 5 hours after the Powersport web page was updated. I took the Idaho Star Motorcycle class and will take it again when scooter is delivered. I need lots of refreshers, in I 1965 bought a new Honda CB100, had it for 3 years. Hope it is delivered before the end of February that is when I turn 80, wish me luck.
My opinion is the CBR 1000r for the streets . Due to a better low-end power . On the track, of course, the R1where you can use the higher RPM range .
Bro said Kenny “Rogers”😂. Give Kenny Roberts some respect. He’s a legend
The Niken is far more complex than my old ATC Honda, sort of mirror imagines, insofar as 3-wheels. Also the big or Super Tenere, with the shaft drive = baby-beemer-but-better, the triumph-style triples etc. the bolt, really good eye for know what is quintessential and worth copying, no sense in cheating off second best. Yamaha preserves gold, the old triple, the old Sportster, Yamaha does the those 'second run brew pub theaters', rather well...
FZ1 😍
For sure honda ,they never let me down ,Just flat tires
Driving now already 40 years ,build quality is far better and the best is when you drive a new honda 5 miles , its like you own that bike six montessorischool
Driving now vfr 800 v tec and cbr 1000 no issues at all
from my experience is that, yamaha always delivered the power, but honda is just good on your eyes
I tend to view Yamaha/Honda much in the way I view Toyota/Mazda for cars.
Toyota is more practical and utilitarian, but Mazda makes a more fun car for drivers. I've owned products from both brands and haven't ever regretted it.
I tend to favor Honda for cruisers and smaller displacement bikes while I prefer Yamaha for more performance oriented bikes... the one exception being the Goldwing which is in a class of its own.
All Japanese motorcycles are awesome some better then others but overall they take all the cake !!!!
The New Honda CBR 1000RR is coming with the most Hp 117 Hp from the all 4 brands....but I'm not in favor of Honda I'm most Yamaha and Suzuki.... Great 👍 info son...
My first bike that wasn't a Briggs and Stratton was a 68 Honda Mini Trail, followed by a 79 CM180 with knobby tires, followed by riding my dad's 74 XT500 around the streets at 15 years old. I would have trouble picking one over the other. Yamaha really needs to make another XT with a decent amount of displacement though.
My only problem with Yamaha is im on the "hate it" side of the Mt looks argument. And I've never found an Xsr for sale at a dealer. If I didn't know better I'd be willing to bet they don't actually exist lol. Cb650r looks cool but expensive for what you get and also was hard to find when I bought last year. Went a different route and got a triumph trident and love it. Styling is perfect for me and it's unique. Turns alot of heads. Triumph reliability is TBD. Some say it's great, we'll see
I have a daily communter for 7 years. Its is yamaha sz rr(150cc)...
It is the best motercycle i have ever rode.
Very dependable
the papa Yam picture got me rolling
Yamster! It's Kenny ROBERTS. Kenny Rogers was a bearded guy with a guitar...
Honda in terms of reliability. Own a street triple rs and a CB650R. My brother has been a fan of Yamaha he owns an R6 and an MT-09, They're reliable yes at certain point but the exhaust sounds on that one even in stock are pretty darn good.
I enjoyed this brand shootout! Can you do one for Italian sport bikes?!
My choice is still the Royal Enfield