Why Darth Sidious NEVER made a Holocron | Star Wars Q&A
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- In todays Star Wars Q&A we tackle 5 questions. Why Darth Sidious NEVER made a holocron, If The Last Jedi will be looked at fondly in the years to come, if Ben Solo is still connected to Rey in the netherworld of the Force, as well as going through one of my least favorite scenes in the Star Wars Saga.
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@Haljordan4life pffff
Added notification. Didnt in the past because notifications have become a problem, but want you to succeed so made an exception. Also would love that channel that changed thoughts on The Last Jedi
@@keithfranklin214 let me find it!
I never understood the "the actor didn't like it so i can use it as proof it sucks" argument.
If that was the case we should all hate Star Wars because Harrison Ford isn't the biggest fan to say the least.
Yeah, its a weak position to hold in wake of a lot of films being disliked by the people who starred in them.
And I will stand by, regardless of how he felt about it, TLJ was my favorite Mark Hamil performance. Dude was amazing.
It may not be my favorite take on Luke Skywalker but Mark completely crushed it acting wise.
@Haljordan4life And que the edgy kid who wasn't even alive when Luke Skywalker came out....
Looking through your comment history on the channel it's clear to see what you are and know that you're not worth engaging.
@@SkySoFew I agree because I did really like TLJ because it pushed the boundaries of safe & comfortable.
The "about his mother" joke is only funny to me now that I know that Hux is his father's illegitimate son.
Yeah, in the context of his history it DOES work. I just wish it was a bit more menacing. Its such a nitpick tho. Haha
@@ATATChat I don't think that any of the humour is unfunny to me... its just that a lot of it didn't quite fit the tone in some places.
One of my few problems with the film, but obviously it doesn't do much to hurt my experience overall.
@@WhiteWolf496 I just loved how delayed it is.
".........................................about his mother"
For some reason gets me every time.
I remember watching a compilation of Mark Hamill showing his distaste for the movie and then later on I discovered that some of those clips was out of context.
Big time. Even funnier, right before TLJ, Mark said he didnt want to come back as some Benevolent figure again. Its ironic.
Plotting and manipulation by the saddist and evil Fandom Menace
The first question reminds me of a line from shattered empire :
"If an Empire cannot protect its Emperor then that Empire must be deemed a failure. It collapses not only because its central figure is gone, but because it must not be allowed to remain!"
Exactly. I remember when I made my Op Cinder video I quoted that line. Its so good. Palpatine is an amazing villain.
In this day and age, it's fashionable to be a hater. I personally am so repulsed by anyone who creates drama for drama's sake that whenever YT recommends one of these SW haters, I get upset. I appreciate the constructive criticism of this channel which will always keep me coming back! :)
They just made a video about John Campea being a shill because he thinks the SWT drama is silly.
@@ATATChat I will never understand it. :(
Always been impressed of how high of a quality you keep on your videos! Good mic, nice intro and top-notch editing. Keep on fighting the algorithm! sooner or later this channel WILL blossom! :)
Yeah, hopefully soon! Appreciate the kind words. Its been a long road trying to get this channel back on track.
Haha, interesting story about the Hux and Poe jokes 😂
I was like OH NO I have to talk poorly about one of my favorite films.
@@ATATChat But valid critism is fine. It's sad you can't bring up anything that is remotely negative (or positive) without a good section of "fans" coming for your head lol
I concur, valid for sure, I actually like General Hux. However, if you look closely you’ll see some humorous nonverbal comedic reactions from Ade Edmondson’s Captain Peavey. It’s subtle and in the background, but it mirrors his Vyvyan Bastards character from the Young Ones.
Do you think future generations will be far more accepting about the story choices made in the Sequel Era because they won't have the expectations of waiting for the next installment to come and will be able to watch the Sequels in there entirety from the start giving them a full understanding from the get go.
I reckon. Nostalgic expectations are the Achilles heel to objectivity
I was born back in 2003 and to me, all the story choices in the Prequels made perfect sense to me. I feel the same towards everything that occurred in the Sequels.
Thank you very much for answering my question! 👍
I’m from Cyprus 🇨🇾 so I recommend you to call me Chris and I’m grateful to be part with you and this channel not the fandom or theory himself.
You got it! Thank you so much for submitting to the Q and A.
@@ATATChat will do! 👍
next question will come out soon when you’re going to do another q and a vid.
Ayyy fellow Cypriot! I knew it as soon as I saw the name in the video hahaha
@@constantinoschristofi3110 it’s an honor to meet you ! 👍
@@chriscage669 you too! 😁
Appreciate the answer! And yeah you nailed the last name pronunciation haha nice work.
I remember you touched on my question topic in your review of the last episode, that's why I thought it'd be cool to get your thoughts isolated here. I think you do a great job of contextualizing the 2 scenes, and Luke's character, for those who still feel disgruntled about his story in The Last Jedi.
I agree that his Mandalorian appearance only enhances his TLJ arc and it looks like some others in the comments are feeling the same way - that's amazing.
Getting more of 'prime' Luke really makes you feel the disillusionment he had toward his past hubris in TLJ. Who wouldn't feel infallible when they can tear through Dark Troopers like butter?
Then having the weight of the entire Jedi Order legacy on his shoulders, trying to rebuild that Order, and failing. Failing his nephew, making Ben believe Luke feared him, solidifying Ben's turn.
It's completely in Luke's character to feel guilt and shame for that, and those feelings don't take away from his past heroics. Plus, he redeems himself in the most badass, powerful, passive, Jedi way possible and sacrifices himself to save the Resistance. It's a tragic and wonderful arc fit for such a legendary character.
Cheers to seeing more 'prime' Luke storytelling, though! I'd love to see him take the responsibility of finding the Grogu/Yoda/Yaddle species with Grogu (after a bit of training, of course). I think reuniting Grogu with his kind could be an interesting way to not have him at the temple during Ben's fall. It'd also make Grogu's journey mirror Din's - discovering and reuniting with their people.
If it was Ben’s voice and not “I’ve been every voice you’ve ever heard inside your head “ Palpatine’s having successfully made the transfer after all, if only in a very weakened state.
Honestly learning the Poe and Hux joke is a reference to Ad campaigns makes it funnier for me.
Also Mark Hamill wouldn't want people to weaponize his words and use them to attack a movie, let alone a movie he worked on.
haha, i was just like WTF having lived through it
Regarding the question with the Sequels getting more liked over time, I don’t think the hate will be majorly decreased unless something else gets more hate (which seems really unlikely). The Prequel hate stopped around when the Sequel trilogy came out, and even all of the hate for Star Wars Rebels got really low when Resistance came out, even though the hate for the shows weren’t as much as the movies.
Well I think the demographic will shift. Yeah people got a new thing to rag on but you have to remember that the kids who grew up with the prequels and the clone wars didn’t start getting a major voice in the fandom until 2015 and afterwards. I was fifteen when TFA came out and a lot of the vocal prequel fans are people my age who grew up with the Clone Wars
I’m not a huge fan of the sequels to be honest, but I’m not also a higa fan of the prequels either. I’ve come to accept and see the cool things of both, the prequels and sequels. I think my main grudge about them is the execution of the story on the screen more than the story plot itself. Said that, I think TLJ isn’t horrible but is the movie plot that is less cohesive in all the 9 movies; however, it does put on the table interesting plot lines that would’ve made a great Star Wars story if executed correctly. The idea that a nobody would be part of a Dyad with the heir of the Skywalker line was amazing. Luke Skywalker’s arc of how he changed from the powerful Jedi we saw on the original trilogy to the hermit we met was something I would’ve loved to know to put his present attitude on context. I think the problem for me on the sequels was the fact that they didn’t have a start and end point when they began pre production of The Force Awakens and that the style of both JJ and Rian clashed on a story that needed cohesion as is a SW trilogy. Anyway, I don’t see the point to trash them because at the end, they are canon and we still have other SW movies to pick as favorites. Just my thoughts on the topic.
Loving these Q&As!
I think the joke in TLJ was funny even if I'm the only one that did. The scene I disliked the most is in ROTS, where Palpatine is locked on the throne and Anakin starts getting the better of Dooku and Palpatine shakes his head and says " yeah". He should have just sat there watching, which they did in the Anti- cheese edit.
Hahaha! Yea that part is so funny to me in the wrong way
With the most recent Darth Vader comics pretty much confirming that Vader knew Palpatine was at least up to something on Exogol, do you think it was in fact Anakin reaching out through the Force asking Ben to “finish what he started” by ending Palpatine once and for all? I know Palpatine said he was the one speaking...but given how he routinely lies to his prospective apprentices, he may have been stretching the truth.
I love this suggestion. And I hope it gets confirmed. I think its VERY reasonable to suggest.
Great QnA!
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Ben is alive within Rey. When he impregnated her through saving her life with the force.
"It's pretty explicit that he's dead" just like Boba Fett, Darth Maul, Palpatine, etc.
I wouldn't say this if he was a force ghost with Luke and Leia at the end, but as of now it's the new Schrodinger's Fett until canon confirms if he died or was just teleported by either Leia, future Rey, or the force.
Fett always has had the legends history of survival, same for palpatine and maul.
Ben doesn't. The book and movie confirm his death by virtue of us literally seeing him die.
It's understandable to not want that. But there's no alternative beyond head canon.
@@ATATChat As I said, if he was a ghost with Luke and Leia or had a similar type of clear confirmation I would agree he's 100% dead.
As is, TROS just really reminded me of the ambiguous death trope, like (Spoilers) from Persona 5 who "died" in a way that felt easy to retcon if he became too popular of a merch seller.
The thing is, even if Ben was saved somehow, does he REALLY deserve to live? He did one good thing and saved Rey but that doesn't really erase anything.
@@matti.8465 I find characters who do bad things having to live with their past actions and the conflict it creates while still actively trying to do good to be more interesting than killing them off to avoid said conflict.
That's why Star Wars: Lost Stars' ending handled a similar situation in a way I find far more interesting. Granted that book is also just a masterpiece in general, not just its ending.
That said, Revan's past actions were just as horrible if not worse than Kylo Ren's, and people are generally fine with him having a decent life in the light side ending.
Thanks for letting us know about the youtube/notifications thing. I'm still figuring out how all this works. I only really started watching UA-cam during the "quarantine" portion of the pandemic, and really enjoy it without knowing all the workings.
I understand that a lot of people dislike that Hux/Dameron exchange at the beginning of TLJ. It always amuses me because of Poe’s backstory. Unfortunately though, that wouldn’t mean anything to the average movie goer. What amuses me is the momma joke knowing that Hux is ashamed by being a bastard, whose mother was a lowly kitchen worker in the eyes of his general father. Then add to that the insult that Poe says the message is from Leia. Since we know how much Hux hates Kylo Ren. And I’m sure the fact that Kylo’s mother is a princess in comparison to his mother would only add to Hux’s feelings that Kylo is an entitled, overly emotional brat.
That makes a lot of sense now.
I was one of the person that hated the last jedi and the sequels, but i recently started to like it more with each rewatching, i always watch the complete saga, and i adore each movie on its own, every single one is a single story with many gaps to fill for future content, witch is genious, but also they all speak of the technology and ideal of the era they were released, it's art. It reveals and evolve with time, like the prequel did, so i recently discovered i loved ep 7 , then i liked ep 8, and i understand what they mean, and they will build for future ep 10 and im exited for it. At the end we can always see how our beloved character evolve and what they're impact is in the galaxy. Still i hope the main movies do continue the skywalker story, i really think they should not walk away from that, for the rest we have the other movies and shows.
If you could make a show that took place in the ST era, in which time period would you like it to take place?
(Before TFA, between TLJ and TROS or after TROS?)
Before TFA so we can see kylo ren, the enforcer more often. Its a story I need to see. I want those 6 years on TV haha.
As someone who likes all the sequel films, TLJ has definitely come around for me. It was the one I least liked out of the 3 and still is but it’s so underrated. I think it has the best dialogue out of the 3 films. The casino part and the side casting of Finn are my big criticisms. I think saying JJ didn’t give a shit is a bit harsh 😂 like I’ve said before TROS is my favorite sequel, and I think JJ had a hard job having to wrap up an entire saga which is why he played it a little more safe but I still think the movie has its own good qualities and connections to 7 and 8 that people don’t really see. I think the sequels as a whole are more of a “show not tell” when it comes to the underlying themes. But anyways TLJ gets better with every watch! Great video!
True, I'm still floored by how little Tros felt connected to anything but it's undoubtedly a fun movie.
@@ATATChat I believe you said “at least Rian actually gave a shit” and you were referring to others talking to you about the movie so my bad didn’t mean for it to seem like I was putting words in your mouth or anything like that
Q/A: What are your thoughts so far on The High Republic?
Q/A: Who had the better hallway fight sequence- Darth Vader in Rogue One, Darth Maul in S7E11 of Clone Wars, or Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian?
I keep missing your calls for QA questions >.> I wanted to ask you what your favorite single shot is from each trilogy! These films are known for great cinematography, so I was wondering which shot from each trilogy really stands out to you as being iconic, while capturing the grandeur and beauty of the SW universe.
Ill make sure this is on next Mondays!
@@ATATChat I appreciate that brother, thank you
Thanks for answering my question.
I probably should have phrased a bit differently, but I wanted to hear your thoughts on it because yeah, I know UA-cam isn't the most reliable, but even on other places, it's so divisive.
But yeah, I do hope Last Jedi is more accepted or loved as time moves on as I do genuinely see something good in it. And I love many scenes and such.
It's so odd on the response it got. Just odd.
I think primarily I mean anywhere online is probably the worst place to discuss it. But yea, people over reacted to it. Not liking it is one thing. Trying to make a career out of why its bad is asinine.
AT-AT Chat I can sympathize to a degree on certain things because there are some things I truly despise, but with Last Jedi, aside from a few genuine issues, I honestly don’t get the hate, and I believe there are far worse things than this.
And I never thought I would say it, but to me, Last Jedi is one of my favorite movies of all time now! I love it along with Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope, Return of the Jedi, and Rogue One.
There’s something about it that is so fascinating about Last Jedi, in a good way.
Yeah...not a fan of that jokey part of TLJ. Just don’t land and misplaced to me.
Honestly, its just TOO LONG too. Thats my thing. Maybe it would have landed if it wasnt dragged out.
@@ATATChat This is the main thing I disliked. We don't need Star Wars to be like the MCU
👌🏻 sick
Glad you enjoy these!
That "your mom" joke in TLJ was really not needed. In fact, the beginning of TLJ with Poe and Hux was just childish and cringe.
9:40-9:55 thank you for describing me and my life in 15 seconds or less 😂
(and yes i know that bit was a dig at superfans, but it is true lol)
To be fair I'm making fun of my self too hahaa
Question: so how do you see Snoke? Like do you see him as just a meat puppet or more like a dooku figure. I personally see him as a kind of dooku but what about you?
I always (since TFA) called him Dooku 2.0 because I never thought he was the true big bad whatsoever. To me he almost seems like a sentient creation somehow strong in the force (grogus blood allowed for such a thing to happen). He was palpatines means to an end with Kylo. My only beef with it all is how wonky it all fits together.
I think Sidious like in legends keep the Talos holocron that was passed down from Ancient Sith via tradition. He also wrote Book of Sith and Book of Anger.
The book of the sith is so cool to pop open every now and then. I wish they would make something analogous to the Silmarillion, but for Star Wars.
That would be cool as then we could see if the Father, Son & Daughter were the ones who setup the Tho Yor in having the Jed'aai order established.
What is your favorite lightsaber design (legends or canon) and why?
what's your favorite episode of the mandalorian?
In legends, old republic, there's talk of the Sith 'ari. Who (or what) is the Sith 'ari? Is it similar to the prophecy of the jedi in the coming of the chosen one mentioned in TPM or completely different?
Do you think that we will Get Cad Bane in the Bad Batch or Boba Fett Shows? As the episode where he would have died in the Clone Wars was never made.
What is your favorite clone wars arc and why?
this HAS to be its own video. Ill write this down tho.
@@ATATChat awesome! Thank you so much!
Star Wars ranters will go on UA-cam in a Boba Fett shirt and moan about how Captain Phasma didn't get a character arc and just stood around looking cool before dying without realising the irony
Yeah, these are people who dont possess one critical bone in their body. But, they pretend to.
What direction do you think Lucasfilm should take after the events of TROS? Like it's clear they want to continue the story of some of these characters, but actors such as Oscar Isaac and John Boyega have made their disinterest pretty clear. Should they make a clone wars style show with those characters so they don't have to get the actors back, or should they focus on characters who's actors haven't shown their anger towards Star Wars?
I'm also curious if you think the events of Lando will be after TROS, and tie into this post sequel storytelling.
its gonna be fun to see how they fill the 30 year void， take care buddy
Yea it's a lot of possibilities
@@ATATChat Well, here's an idea for something more overarching to occur in those thirty years. While Operation Cinder was designed to burn away the weakness within the Empire and basically attempt to both fake the Empire's death and to hurt the New Republic. I believed that the next step in the Contingency after the Galactic Civil War would be Operation: Shadow's Hands (I always felt like this operation's name felt more in line with secrecy, than a grand offensive). Operation: Shadow's Hands primary goal was to undermine the New Republic from terrorism to simply criticizing the government. Palpatine main goal was not only to see the New Republic fall to ruins, but disillusion its citizen from supporting it. Palpatine preferred to fight a galaxy that more divided than united against him, making easier to once more conquer. During this time, the First Order would rebuild itself and begin to prepare for war against the whole galaxy, while the Final Order was slowly constructed on Exegol for it be the final nail in the galaxy's coffin. The final phase of the Contingency was known as Operation: Spearhead, which would become the First Order's War against the Resistance. What do you think?
Why doesn’t Palpatine use a Lightsaber like any other sith?
You have failed me for the last time youtube notifications!!!!
You didnt get one!!! damnnit. WHY YT.
@@ATATChat I know right!!
@@emilysanchez4584 It is wild how many people have told me they never get notified. Were on like 50 people so far.
Despite how you feel about the sequels, I just think it’s redundant storytelling; they just reset the status quo by killing off the new Jedi and the New Republic in a quick swoop, and essentially made the trilogy about the new rebels fighting off another tyrannical empire, as if that wasn’t the point of the OT? I think it would have been interesting to see how the characters learned from the past and used that wisdom to make a better Republic and Jedi, rather than also failing and now relying on the new generation to fix their mess. Hope my reasoning comes out making sense.
In a lot of ways, TFA was too safe. But I won't deny how excited I was. It's also why TLJ was welcomed by me because it tossed out the OT retread. With that all said, Tros was pretty bad and it cheapens everything.
Here's to hopefully a solid serious of new films
@@ATATChat Haha true, even though the sequels are kinda sour to me in hindsight, I can’t forget the hype back in 2015. It made my freshman high school year start in a big way, and I started collecting the Legos again cause of it.
@@shadowsentry2112 we were all feeling pumped. Plus, if I'm honest, rogue one was an amazing theater experience too
Holocron sounds like Horocrux
Its kinda similar. If you make one, I think a part of your ghost becomes the gate keeper?
@@ATATChat I don't think you need to murder anyone to make it though
Can u hear me now? Good
Cries in porg
For everyone that's making some kind of fuss about what Mark Hamill said the other can I just bluntly state that if Adam Driver said something similar I think there would be a party going on in fact the other side of the internet would start a parade and make a statue.
Star Wars is known for having some cringe but tlj scene was a little to much for me personally,
Hux felt off character in that scene because of how he was in The force awakens
That’s why to me pride as much as he is cool felt like Hux 2.0 by J.J.
There is one of Tros book lines were Hux thinks about kylo and has this conversation with himself about his hair I died when I read it.
That would have never worked in the movie but I find it hilarious.
The book was so much better haha
You are so on the money about fandoms and their obsession with content being black or white (good or bad).
I mean... my biggest problem with the last jedi is it's structure. Rian Johnson's deep love of plot twists ruins the film for me. They just come out of nowhere.
I guess I could see things as twists but it never hit me that way. Snoke dying etc to me wasn't a twist but just part of the story. I feel like the "twists" of the Sequels are Ben Solo is Kylo, Palpatine is alive, Rey was actually a Palpatine.
But with all that said, if it didn't work for you it didn't work.
@@ATATChat It's less about the twists (if you want to call them that) and more about how they are implemented. Like with Luke. At the end of the first movie, there's this huge build up with dramatic music. Then in TOJ he's just like "lol nah" and throws it over his shoulder. It just feels so jarring.
Honestly though, my problems with TOJ relate less to the movie itself (though it has issues there too) and more with how the creative direction of the trilogy was handled (or not handled) overall.
Sith jedi Gary jedi jedi turned sith sith turned jedi watch one would u be!?!?
Weird rant on jj ngl
Hes not that good at finishing anything. Great action director, terrible story teller.
@@ATATChat Hard disagree but okay
@The Knight Watcher I don't really care mate, think what you want
I didn't like or care for a lot of the humor in the opening scene of The Last Jedi. It seemed that Rian Johnson was trying to make it to much like a Marvel movie. It didn't work. Marvel and Star Wars are to different movies, different franchises.
Yea I can see that
Force awakens wasn't a good movie, it was simply a good copy with worse logic. Looking at you Kylo losing to rey.
TLJ is a great movie. 9/10. Not perfect, I also don't love the beginning with Po and don't like how Leah used the force that much to save herself.
The reason I dont mind Kylo losing to Rey is due to him using the Force to not die. Its not perfect and not made super clear in the movie but it is in the novel. Its too bad they didnt make him look more wounded after the bowcaster hit. Technically, he was "holding in his guts".
TROS is just a trainwreck. Plot makes no sense, the only points it gets is its a cool turn off your brain completely for boom boom toys go yay movie outing.
Kylo was... trying not to die. That hit from Chewie isn't exactly light by any means.
@@ATATChat The movie doesn't show that well. Besides even if Kylo was hanging on, it would be like a MMA fighter with a broken hand vs a janitor. Doesn't make any sense.
The Last Jedi is a pretty decent movie. But it’s a horrible Star Wars installment with very poor creativity