Sanding and the proper primer are an absolute must, especially with laminate, stained/poly and pre-finished plywood. I scuff sand with 150 grit and use two coats of Zinsser BIN always (red can, alcohol based shellack), it has never failed me. Not cheap at ~$75 a gallon and stinks like crazy until dried., but it dries fast and you can top coat within an hour or two at most.
I just lightly sanded and primed the lower laminate kitchen cabinets before painting. I am going to try your method of just sanding with 220 on the uppers. Priming and sanding with 2000 left the lowers rougher than I would like it to be. Thanks.
You have a few options to research. You could paint over the existing paint. I would use a deglosser to remove any sheen from the current paint before applying the new paint. You could also try to remove the old paint by stripping it but depending on how much paint there is that could be a huge project. If I were going the deglosser route I would test it on one of the painted cabinets doors first to make sure it will hold. Here are some videos covering those topics: No Sanding Before Painting - How to Paint Over Old Paint with Liquid Sandpaper ua-cam.com/video/frvi_K-CdQ8/v-deo.html How to Strip Paint or Varnish Off Wood Using Citristrip Gel ua-cam.com/video/NKpTNVRC3_4/v-deo.html
How much do you sand? I have some laminate pieces that I feel like i'm sanding more than I should have to, but when i'm sanding it, it doesn't really seem like its sanded enough that paint would stick to it. it's still pretty smooth. but ive heard laminate is really thin and to be really careful to not sand through it, making the board basically unusable (its ikea so its basically cardboard underneath)
Hi, thank you for the video. Question, in a previous video you used the liquid sandpaper and on this video you used 220 grit, which one do you prefer? My old cabinets about 20 years ago it was painted and the painter used laquer, I’m wondering if liquid sandpaper is better? Thanks so much. Great videos. Have a great day
So, if sanding it makes the paint hold, it will probably work just as well with clear polyurethane, making it possible to come close to restoring (or improving on) the original appearance of the floor. Under a few coats of polyurethane, even if it's got a few imperfections, a laminate floor is likely to look a lot less plasticky than it did when new.
I have a bookcase that my dad built with his own hands to hold our Worldbook Encyclopedia set in the 70s. He used pressed wood covered in formica. The bookcase is dear to me but the color of the formica laminate is so dark. I have been looking for just the right tutorial to paint over it. Any other suggestions besides what you show on this video?
Sounds like a good project! I don’t have any other tips than what I’ve shared on my channel. I guess just take your time and let it cure completely before putting any books or items on the paint. Happy painting!! Thanks for watching.
I have a laminate wooden rail on my staircase. I was hoping to keep the wood look but want to darken its orangey hue. What would you recommend? Or is my only option to paint it white?😊
None of these Betty homemaker chicks making videos never do a monthly or yearly review of how well their paint job held up and now I see why. This was a very detailed, informative video. Thank you. This is why I've been hesitant to paint mine.
I'm glad it was helpful! I updated the description of this video and added links to some of my other videos of painting laminate. Also I made a playlist of my laminate painting videos here: ua-cam.com/play/PLNbUtUlcS3goipgYyuXqaYcfsrrbMG-UY.html
Liquid sandpaper didn't work on an ikea laminated bed I painted black. Although I did not prime at at all. But just the Liquid sandpaper and the paint does not work. It has been chipping with every tiny hit.
Yeah it's tough to say. I think to be fair I need to do the scratch test on a piece of unpainted wood as well. I think that would give a better idea of how paint holds up compared to unpainted surfaces. However I understand your point! haha.
I have seen a lot of tutorials and there are some great products out there. I think a lot depends on how much use you are going to give the piece. If it's a decor piece in a little old lady's house that no one will touch and will get dusted with ostrich feathers, then chances are you can get away with painting it. But if it's a coffee table and you have cats and toddlers...well, good luck with that. 😂😂😂
No I think that’s a good idea. Primer is typically cheaper. If I was doin it again I would sand, add a primer coat and then a finish coat with the more expensive cabinet/furniture paint.
@@MyProjectWeekend thank you for this info. if i were to try to paint my laminate floors would you say: 220 grit sand paper, primer, finish coat of a furniture paint~ or maybe floor paint exists?
Wow! This video is just what I needed! Very informative! Thanks a million ❤
It would be interesting to see sanded and primed versus sanded and not primed.
did he say if he primed the sanded samples?
I was wondering the same thing. If he said he Primed the sanded samples then I must have missed it.
Sanding and the proper primer are an absolute must, especially with laminate, stained/poly and pre-finished plywood. I scuff sand with 150 grit and use two coats of Zinsser BIN always (red can, alcohol based shellack), it has never failed me. Not cheap at ~$75 a gallon and stinks like crazy until dried., but it dries fast and you can top coat within an hour or two at most.
Thank you so much for showing the difference. I’m definitely going to sand first.
Yes I would definitely recommend it! Thanks and good luck!
Thanks!! Needed this info before I start my next diy project
You’re welcome! What’s your next project?
I just lightly sanded and primed the lower laminate kitchen cabinets before painting. I am going to try your method of just sanding with 220 on the uppers. Priming and sanding with 2000 left the lowers rougher than I would like it to be. Thanks.
Excellent. My daughter wants to paint old aquarium stand black. Glad I watched this video, thanks.
Awesome, glad it was helpful!!
Thank you for this! Clear and straight to the point!
You’re welcome, hopefully it helps! Thank you.
@@MyProjectWeekendIf we sanded the laminate cabinets, do we also put primer?
thanks very helpful just about to do my kitchen
Awesome, good luck! I’m glad you found this helpful.
thank you so much for this! super helpful.
Awesome, glad it was helpful!
There’s a lot of video showing how to paint cabinets , but I have not seen any video showing how to remove proper old paint and apply new paint.
You have a few options to research. You could paint over the existing paint. I would use a deglosser to remove any sheen from the current paint before applying the new paint. You could also try to remove the old paint by stripping it but depending on how much paint there is that could be a huge project.
If I were going the deglosser route I would test it on one of the painted cabinets doors first to make sure it will hold.
Here are some videos covering those topics:
No Sanding Before Painting - How to Paint Over Old Paint with Liquid Sandpaper
ua-cam.com/video/frvi_K-CdQ8/v-deo.html
How to Strip Paint or Varnish Off Wood Using Citristrip Gel
ua-cam.com/video/NKpTNVRC3_4/v-deo.html
😂😂😂that's because laminate...is a plastic cover, its not paint, that's why painting don't stick to it very well.
Prime with Coverstain bonding primer. Its oil base and needs ventilation, but works great.
great video bruv. thanks for this test
Thanks so much for doing the science on this. Guess I am sanding.
You're welcome and I hope it was helpful! I've painted a lot of laminate recently and sanding does make a huge difference!
On the sanded test... There was no mention of primer. So i'm assuming you got these positive results with only the paint coats?
How much do you sand? I have some laminate pieces that I feel like i'm sanding more than I should have to, but when i'm sanding it, it doesn't really seem like its sanded enough that paint would stick to it. it's still pretty smooth. but ive heard laminate is really thin and to be really careful to not sand through it, making the board basically unusable (its ikea so its basically cardboard underneath)
Hi, thank you for the video. Question, in a previous video you used the liquid sandpaper and on this video you used 220 grit, which one do you prefer? My old cabinets about 20 years ago it was painted and the painter used laquer, I’m wondering if liquid sandpaper is better? Thanks so much. Great videos. Have a great day
So, if sanding it makes the paint hold, it will probably work just as well with clear polyurethane, making it possible to come close to restoring (or improving on) the original appearance of the floor. Under a few coats of polyurethane, even if it's got a few imperfections, a laminate floor is likely to look a lot less plasticky than it did when new.
I have a bookcase that my dad built with his own hands to hold our Worldbook Encyclopedia set in the 70s.
He used pressed wood covered in formica.
The bookcase is dear to me but the color of the formica laminate is so dark.
I have been looking for just the right tutorial to paint over it.
Any other suggestions besides what you show on this video?
Sounds like a good project! I don’t have any other tips than what I’ve shared on my channel. I guess just take your time and let it cure completely before putting any books or items on the paint. Happy painting!! Thanks for watching.
I sanded it down and applied laminate. It still scratches away when you apply regular force. I wonder if adding a sealant or top coat would help?
I have a laminate wooden rail on my staircase. I was hoping to keep the wood look but want to darken its orangey hue. What would you recommend? Or is my only option to paint it white?😊
Did you just scuff it up and paint it or did you sand the laminate off?
I’d say I just scuffed it up. I never got through the laminate down to the wood but definitely sanded it very good.
So you sanded and used 220 grit then the Valspar Cabinet Paint?
None of these Betty homemaker chicks making videos never do a monthly or yearly review of how well their paint job held up and now I see why. This was a very detailed, informative video. Thank you. This is why I've been hesitant to paint mine.
I wish you would have shown the cabinet after sanding it prior to paint.
Thank you for this video very helpful. You mentioned that you would have a video showing you painting your laminate cabinets but didn’t find it?
I'm glad it was helpful! I updated the description of this video and added links to some of my other videos of painting laminate. Also I made a playlist of my laminate painting videos here: ua-cam.com/play/PLNbUtUlcS3goipgYyuXqaYcfsrrbMG-UY.html
OK, don’t skip the sanding stage! Thank you
Yes I highly recommend sanding it first if you can.
There goes my bookcase painting, I’m not paying $47 for 500ml of laminate primer to find it’s crap….thanks for the heads up 👍
It sounds like this video was helpful! Did you ever paint your bookcase? If so, how did it turn out?
You have to let the paint and primer cure in your first test. I’d love to know
Nice, Thanks.
You’re Welcome!
Was that paint oil-based?
It is an oil enriched enamel so it’s still water based but the finish is smooth and durable.
Can’t you just use latex paint?
How many coats of paint did you use?
I used 3 coats.
So which grit is better? 120 or 220?
I think they both worked just fine. I’ll use 220 on my next project!
How about using liquid sandpaper on laminate? Would that work? 😀
I’ve never tried it but I will test it out soon! I think that’s a great idea. Thanks!
Liquid sandpaper didn't work on an ikea laminated bed I painted black. Although I did not prime at at all. But just the Liquid sandpaper and the paint does not work. It has been chipping with every tiny hit.
Right, don't be lazy@@EleniKouvelou
What kind of roller did you use?
I used a foam mini paint roller.
YES!! Thank you!!! Saved me from extra work.
Awesome, glad to hear it! What kind of project are you working on?
always sand and prime cant go wrong.
Agreed! That’s what works best for me.
Moral of the story, painting laminate cabinets is a waste of time lol
Yeah it's tough to say. I think to be fair I need to do the scratch test on a piece of unpainted wood as well. I think that would give a better idea of how paint holds up compared to unpainted surfaces. However I understand your point! haha.
@@MyProjectWeekendcan you use a topcoat?
Well it certainly appears that painting without sanding first is a waste of paint. Everyone values their time differently.
I have seen a lot of tutorials and there are some great products out there.
I think a lot depends on how much use you are going to give the piece.
If it's a decor piece in a little old lady's house that no one will touch and will get dusted with ostrich feathers, then chances are you can get away with painting it. But if it's a coffee table and you have cats and toddlers...well, good luck with that. 😂😂😂
Really? Because you stab your cabinets with a screwdriver to open them?
Chalk paint? Then seal? What I am about to do :) we will see. Haha
What about sanding then primer? Overkill?
No I think that’s a good idea. Primer is typically cheaper. If I was doin it again I would sand, add a primer coat and then a finish coat with the more expensive cabinet/furniture paint.
@@MyProjectWeekend thank you for this info. if i were to try to paint my laminate floors would you say: 220 grit sand paper, primer, finish coat of a furniture paint~ or maybe floor paint exists?
The Problem with The Test who has 4 weeks to let floor dry, Unless you are not living in the home, Most want it done in 1 day.
Why are you painting a laminate floor? This is more for cabinets and countertops I would guess
@@prestigehomebuildingllc I"M Not Painting no Floor I was talking about the Video
I couldn’t complete it can you get to the point too much talking for nothing