Knowing the droprates clearly makes it nice, I know this video was posted 3 months ago, I just got to late game and was looking for this info so, @TheGameClub, I was checking the spreadsheet and added the estimated time for a guaranteed drop based on the time entered for each difficulty on the formula/data sheets, I'd gladly share the changes if you'd like them.
These videos are way too high quality for the amount of attention they get. Hope granblue blows up with updates and collabs so you guys blow up aswell‼️
You can definitely get War Elemental and Supp V! The rates for those isn't that bad. War Ele especially is something you should try your best to get, as it's a 20%~ damage increase not affected by damage cap! 1 Supp V is only 8%!
You should add a disclaimer to the calc not to use the ingame clear time but to use the time from start to start. In the end, Nazarbonju is always going to be the best.
Spreading the joy my friends there's an anime series called "Granblue Fantasy: The Animation" there's 2 seasons which give some back story to this wonderful game....enjoy!!!!
That's challenging because when me my friends and I were farming for Terminus weapons the other day, we got War Elemental that way versus target farming other stages that were recommended before. Something tells me that Cygames might've done a small stealth patch before the major one.
I worked on a japanese company before and deal with this kind of probability or chances in our game or let say in our gacha If your computation is correct, opening 11,111 is a "Chance" of getting Supp dmg V+, but it is for the whole players For example, this game only have 3 players, the player who opened the curio on 11,111 will have a "chance" to get the Supp dmg V+ Note that i use the word "Chance" as you still not sure if you will get what you want on that open. This is also the reason why some others doesn't need to open that much and then they will get that item that they want or worst case even you open 11,111 you still haven't get that item. Im not sure if they implemented that way, but in our case, this is how we compute/set our simple gachas. (I don't work there anymore, that was 10+ years ago 😅)
man stories like this are crazy to me I've been lucky and have gotten 4 war elementals and have 15 supp dmg sigils mix of 4 and 5 with two of them being 5+ and I would say I'm still under 1k curios
when I got a majority of my war elementals I was farming extreme and very hard missions for fortitude crystals and before I even got to the proud difficulty I had three war elementals. I was just doing horde missions or defense missions@@PejorativeDaedal e t
Yeah check out the second tab in the document and find out what difficulty you're getting most efficiency from and you'll have it in the fastest time possible!! Good luck!!
I feel soo bad for people not getting lucky😭 156 hours in , i have 5 war elementals , 5 sup dmg. got 3 war elementals before i found out why it was important
I got a SuppV+ while timing myself with all the difficulty missions.... ...is what everyone is wishing for. Kinda astounded that within the .00x drop rate I've rolled SuppV+ and Roll of the Die+ both with Autorevive. Either love or hate the RNGods.
Blazing Trail seems to be the best (read: fastest) Proud mission to farm curios if you ask me. A good team can clear it in 90 seconds or less. I think I had a team that was running it in less than a minute the other day. Impossible without CC though. Lancelot or or anyone with paralyze is really good to break the dragon before it goes into overdrive (or break it before it gets to do anything).
Assuming you do your Maniac quest in 30 seconds all included (don't think it's possible in proud, but you can oneshot some maniac bosses easily), that's an average of 116 hours of efficient grinding per suppV+ but then since there are actually very few good substats that you can pull you can probably count yourself lucky if you get one decent out of 10. Wouldn't be surprised if with 3000 hours of efficient farming you still don't have 3 SuppV+ with perfect substats.
When we looked at the Supp V+ rates, it was more than a little soul crushing... honestly we're banking on lucilius or event quests to give better rates on some of to give better rates on some of these rare sigils
@@TheGameClub To be fair it has been common knowledge for a while to the point where SuppV+ were used as a way to spot cheaters. I think most content creators don't even advise to grind for those now
@@thomasb5307 I think it’s so dumb to put something like this in the game and make it that hard to get without a pity/fail safe system. Like 100 items of x to purchase one. It’s like in Monster Hunter trying to get the perfect charm for your BiS build. This is why people use charm / similar editor. Simply not fair to ask a player to grind thousands of hours for their BiS.
@@TheGameClub if you think Supp V+ drop mechanic as the same as gacha game it's actually not that bad you know Let's look it this way. In Granblue Fantasy Original, the chance of doing gacha to get SSR is 3% Exactly the same as Curio Drop Rate And within that SSR, you need to beat the odds of 0,07% chance to get specific SSR you want unless there's a rate up which double that to 0,14% chance Pretty low chance right? Yet people still get them anyway But yeah, without certain way (some mechanic to boost specific item drop for example if there's any) it's still pretty hard to get it. So far, I got 2 Flight Over Fight+, 1 Berserker V+, And 1 Untouchable+ They are belong to same T4, and same chance to drop as Supp V+ And yes, I also got 1 Supp V+
I gotta figure out what im doing I am only 200hrs in the game and I have 4 war elementals and 15 supp damage sigils with two of them being 5+ and one has resistance but the other has tyranny on it
My experience I have gotten lucky I guess with war elemental in curios I gotten about 5 of them. What I do is I just rack up the curios until I get to 50 and then I turn them in and for the most part I get it. Supplementary V+ is allusive to me. I only gotten supplementary V a few times
Awesome tool! Nice work, fellas. Just to confirm, the tool does take into account the drop in (any) Curio drop rate when in any difficulty besides Proud, right?
I got my war elemental from bahamut before a Terminal weapon. I still need a lot of tiaju heads. It's annoying to farm. Guess it's time to farm a stupid robot in maniac to farm 2 items at once
I have 4 Stronghold, 3 power hungry, 2 untouchable, 7 less is more, 1 headstart, 7 berserker, 4 roll of the die, 5 glass cannon and 2 flight over flight but 0 war elemental and only 1 supp damage. rng be rng
I assume that the time you put in the spreadsheet should be the time from intro screen to the next intro screen, which includes the performance and reward screens at the end? So for afk farming, you'll need to account for the minute+ where you wait for the looting and summary timers to finish before it auto repeats?
Yeah it's very difficult to give Quest recommendations because everyone has a different situation of how strong their team is, how quickly they can complete quests, if they play in open or closed matchmaking, what their AI team setup is and how built they are, etc etc etc. This method is not only more universal but it's going to be more comprehensive.
Well there’s the video I didn’t see, yeah much more accurate since we got more info. I afk farm trade barriers tbh it could be more efficient but I only have to check it once per hour so I can do other things without constantly going to my ps5 and seeing where I’m at but the calculator seems really good and very helpful. Btw talking of low odds what is the % chance of getting a wrightstone with stun 10 dmg cap 7 and dmg cap 5? I got one a week or so ago and I’m assuming it’s rarer or as rare as a sup V+ sigil?
I swear this game love its low drop rates like I get its suppose to encourage replaying quests, But that's ridiculous I got lucky to get a supplementary damage v and 2 war elementals and not to mention the abysmal drop rate that is the proto bahamut, if you ask me given the process of that quest and how you could get screwed over at the very end of the quest, I think to be fair is that you can keep the drop rate low and random but if you manage to score a S++ it should be a guaranteed weapon drop. Monster Hunter isn't even this bad with rare materials, I'm looking for a Rathalos ruby that I have a chance of getting after defeating it, but I could get lucky and find 2 laying on the ground just for breaking it horns
It's a pretty good method, but it's entirely possible there's another difficulty that could be more efficient, if you're going to grind in the long term it's best to check the tool
Me laughing in no supp dmg 5 plus and still doing perfectly fine. It is NOT a requirement to do great dmg but it certainly helps. Build the way you feel most comfortable and don't worry about having supp dmg 5, you can melt stuff without it as long as you're hitting the dmg cap and accounting for various possibilities with your other sigils ( don't sleep on stun, overdrive assassin, linked together, and stout heart + drain )
Everyone's team is different in composition, power and setup so it's not possible for us to recommend a specific mission that will be the most efficient for you. What you need to do is find missions you can complete really quickly in a given difficulty and plug the seconds into the calculator and it will tell you what you should be doing.
It's certainly a marathon and not a race. As we've said in a few of our previous guides, Supp V+ is not required to make a perfectly decent build. Just take your time and enjoy the process, and it's totally OK to take a break and enjoy something else for a while. As much as we want to help everyone get the best stuff through our guides, we will also strive to encourage everyone to remember that at the end of the day, this is a game and you're supposed to have fun with it! 🙂
The game should've REALLY tossed us a free Supplementary Damage V for an endgame quest or something. 80 hours and about 400 curious in, I've only rolled 1, no war elemental. Halflway through my terminus weapon collection.
@@Tekshipie Interesting. Maybe dont rely too much on it since its clearly not working too well. Might have to change it up and farm abit in maniac or proud.
I don't know if you can make a copy of the document from an iphone, but if you can, you can then make the edits if you can do sheet edits on an iphone. I use android, so you'll have to google or have other commenters help.
I just got supp III+ after spaming vulkan bola at maniac , and get Supp V+ but forgot from where because i dont chase it at all but i got it 😅 , and recently i got War elemental i think i get the curio between light dragon , dark dragon , the white lizard and proto because i just spam that 4 quest.
A very special thank you to the TGC community coming together to help with this video. It wouldn't be the same without everyone's help!
Knowing the droprates clearly makes it nice, I know this video was posted 3 months ago, I just got to late game and was looking for this info so, @TheGameClub, I was checking the spreadsheet and added the estimated time for a guaranteed drop based on the time entered for each difficulty on the formula/data sheets, I'd gladly share the changes if you'd like them.
These videos are way too high quality for the amount of attention they get. Hope granblue blows up with updates and collabs so you guys blow up aswell‼️
Short and with the right amounts of information. I hope this channel will get bigger attention cause they deserve it.
2nd that
yes video on datamined drop rates!
At this point, i just treat Supp and War Elemental as just a bonus rather than a must have. My sanity felt better that way 😅
You can definitely get War Elemental and Supp V! The rates for those isn't that bad. War Ele especially is something you should try your best to get, as it's a 20%~ damage increase not affected by damage cap! 1 Supp V is only 8%!
@@TheGameClubFarmed for days and it never dropped so i just ended up buying it for $3
You should add a disclaimer to the calc not to use the ingame clear time but to use the time from start to start. In the end, Nazarbonju is always going to be the best.
Maniac scarmiliogne and gerasene is what i farm. Can afk it with ease, and have drops that can be used to make silver centrums
You can count only the clear time if you know what are you doing. If you only do quests that you clear so fast the ai can't use sba, then it's fine
Spreading the joy my friends there's an anime series called "Granblue Fantasy: The Animation" there's 2 seasons which give some back story to this wonderful game....enjoy!!!!
All this is pretty spot on. Great video. Honestly the simplest thing to do is to just afk farm gallanza in extreme difficulty lol. At least for me
Check the clear time in seconds, it's possible that there's a better stage for you to afk on!
U guys keep it up , u r a solid no nonsense informative gaming channel!
That's challenging because when me my friends and I were farming for Terminus weapons the other day, we got War Elemental that way versus target farming other stages that were recommended before. Something tells me that Cygames might've done a small stealth patch before the major one.
All Proud missions have the same curio tiers and drop rates.
So on average, that's 11,111 curios to open before you get 1 (one) Supp damage V+.
Yes... 😬
imagine farming 11111 of anything. nah thats a job at that point
I worked on a japanese company before and deal with this kind of probability or chances in our game or let say in our gacha
If your computation is correct, opening 11,111 is a "Chance" of getting Supp dmg V+, but it is for the whole players
For example, this game only have 3 players, the player who opened the curio on 11,111 will have a "chance" to get the Supp dmg V+
Note that i use the word "Chance" as you still not sure if you will get what you want on that open.
This is also the reason why some others doesn't need to open that much and then they will get that item that they want or worst case even you open 11,111 you still haven't get that item.
Im not sure if they implemented that way, but in our case, this is how we compute/set our simple gachas.
(I don't work there anymore, that was 10+ years ago 😅)
😂 is not joke I opened more than 1000 and I have 3 supp V+
@heromedley Farming actually IS a job lol
2k + curio
no war elemental
no IV/V supp dmg
thanks for your works hope this will help me
man stories like this are crazy to me I've been lucky and have gotten 4 war elementals and have 15 supp dmg sigils mix of 4 and 5 with two of them being 5+ and I would say I'm still under 1k curios
@@megelegend9968 give me some of your luck lol
hopefuly they will do something about the drop rate...still no luck for me lol
May i know on what difficulty did you farm your curios?
when I got a majority of my war elementals I was farming extreme and very hard missions for fortitude crystals and before I even got to the proud difficulty I had three war elementals. I was just doing horde missions or defense missions@@PejorativeDaedal e t
@@megelegend9968 Give me some of your luck,still nothing for me.... i must be curse lol
Thanks for the info! Unfortunately I’m one of those people who STILL doesn’t have war elemental so hopefully now I will get it 😭
Yeah check out the second tab in the document and find out what difficulty you're getting most efficiency from and you'll have it in the fastest time possible!! Good luck!!
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@@scrps13 🥲 good luck to us
Wish u luck ❤
I feel soo bad for people not getting lucky😭 156 hours in , i have 5 war elementals , 5 sup dmg. got 3 war elementals before i found out why it was important
I got a SuppV+ while timing myself with all the difficulty missions....
...is what everyone is wishing for.
Kinda astounded that within the .00x drop rate I've rolled SuppV+ and Roll of the Die+ both with Autorevive. Either love or hate the RNGods.
Blazing Trail seems to be the best (read: fastest) Proud mission to farm curios if you ask me. A good team can clear it in 90 seconds or less. I think I had a team that was running it in less than a minute the other day. Impossible without CC though. Lancelot or or anyone with paralyze is really good to break the dragon before it goes into overdrive (or break it before it gets to do anything).
That portuguese was surprisingly well spoken, wow
Amazing guide! TY for the infos!!
Assuming you do your Maniac quest in 30 seconds all included (don't think it's possible in proud, but you can oneshot some maniac bosses easily), that's an average of 116 hours of efficient grinding per suppV+ but then since there are actually very few good substats that you can pull you can probably count yourself lucky if you get one decent out of 10.
Wouldn't be surprised if with 3000 hours of efficient farming you still don't have 3 SuppV+ with perfect substats.
When we looked at the Supp V+ rates, it was more than a little soul crushing... honestly we're banking on lucilius or event quests to give better rates on some of to give better rates on some of these rare sigils
@@TheGameClub To be fair it has been common knowledge for a while to the point where SuppV+ were used as a way to spot cheaters.
I think most content creators don't even advise to grind for those now
@@thomasb5307 I think it’s so dumb to put something like this in the game and make it that hard to get without a pity/fail safe system. Like 100 items of x to purchase one. It’s like in Monster Hunter trying to get the perfect charm for your BiS build. This is why people use charm / similar editor. Simply not fair to ask a player to grind thousands of hours for their BiS.
@@TheGameClub if you think Supp V+ drop mechanic as the same as gacha game
it's actually not that bad you know
Let's look it this way.
In Granblue Fantasy Original, the chance of doing gacha to get SSR is 3%
Exactly the same as Curio Drop Rate
And within that SSR, you need to beat the odds of 0,07% chance to get specific SSR you want unless there's a rate up which double that to 0,14% chance
Pretty low chance right?
Yet people still get them anyway
But yeah, without certain way (some mechanic to boost specific item drop for example if there's any) it's still pretty hard to get it.
So far, I got 2 Flight Over Fight+, 1 Berserker V+, And 1 Untouchable+
They are belong to same T4, and same chance to drop as Supp V+
And yes, I also got 1 Supp V+
I gotta figure out what im doing I am only 200hrs in the game and I have 4 war elementals and 15 supp damage sigils with two of them being 5+ and one has resistance but the other has tyranny on it
I can beat the quakadile on hard in 7-8 seconds so.. i guess i'll stick to that for now :D
Amazing video, thank you so much.
My experience I have gotten lucky I guess with war elemental in curios I gotten about 5 of them. What I do is I just rack up the curios until I get to 50 and then I turn them in and for the most part I get it. Supplementary V+ is allusive to me. I only gotten supplementary V a few times
Amazing as always, keep it up !
Great work fellas!
Another great vid. Keep up the good work! 👍
another fab bit of info chaps :)
LMAO HATASHIMO TASKETEKURE!!!!
Awesome tool! Nice work, fellas.
Just to confirm, the tool does take into account the drop in (any) Curio drop rate when in any difficulty besides Proud, right?
Yep, correct! The drop rate of every difficulty is included in the calculation
I got roll of the die+ with rupie tycoon, I went insane it was funny though
thank you
Lucky enough i got 2 war elemental. But only 2 lvl 7 supp cigils.
Easiest way is afk on the second mission of last difficulty mod ( firewyvern). Even only one good IA can win it
I got my war elemental from bahamut before a Terminal weapon.
I still need a lot of tiaju heads. It's annoying to farm.
Guess it's time to farm a stupid robot in maniac to farm 2 items at once
Yeah doubling up on items that you already need is a great way to enhance efficiency
my curio farming method is terminus farming.... 💀
I have 4 Stronghold, 3 power hungry, 2 untouchable, 7 less is more, 1 headstart, 7 berserker, 4 roll of the die, 5 glass cannon and 2 flight over flight but 0 war elemental and only 1 supp damage. rng be rng
I've gotten probably 7 supp dmg sigils, including a V+, but 0 war eles
I assume that the time you put in the spreadsheet should be the time from intro screen to the next intro screen, which includes the performance and reward screens at the end? So for afk farming, you'll need to account for the minute+ where you wait for the looting and summary timers to finish before it auto repeats?
The Japanese comment was sublime. XD
AHh ngl kinda came in thinking there would be quest recommendations but guess its just whatever you clear fastest or whatever you need to farm anyway?
Yeah it's very difficult to give Quest recommendations because everyone has a different situation of how strong their team is, how quickly they can complete quests, if they play in open or closed matchmaking, what their AI team setup is and how built they are, etc etc etc. This method is not only more universal but it's going to be more comprehensive.
Potent Greens+ has an item ID. I'm insanely curious what it could possibly have as a secondary stat, since it's already a support sigil.
So 273 hours in and 2 war elemental sigils and 1 sup damage tier 7 bro the grind is real
Well there’s the video I didn’t see, yeah much more accurate since we got more info. I afk farm trade barriers tbh it could be more efficient but I only have to check it once per hour so I can do other things without constantly going to my ps5 and seeing where I’m at but the calculator seems really good and very helpful.
Btw talking of low odds what is the % chance of getting a wrightstone with stun 10 dmg cap 7 and dmg cap 5? I got one a week or so ago and I’m assuming it’s rarer or as rare as a sup V+ sigil?
Not sure as we've not checked into those %, but just assume it's also insanely low lol.
@@TheGameClub yeah that’s fair enough haha looking forward to new raid though hopefully we get some good non weapon drops
I swear this game love its low drop rates like I get its suppose to encourage replaying quests, But that's ridiculous I got lucky to get a supplementary damage v and 2 war elementals and not to mention the abysmal drop rate that is the proto bahamut, if you ask me given the process of that quest and how you could get screwed over at the very end of the quest, I think to be fair is that you can keep the drop rate low and random but if you manage to score a S++ it should be a guaranteed weapon drop.
Monster Hunter isn't even this bad with rare materials, I'm looking for a Rathalos ruby that I have a chance of getting after defeating it, but I could get lucky and find 2 laying on the ground just for breaking it horns
Proto bahamut is a 20% drop chance for a weapon, and you can't get dupes. It's hoenstly the most generous end game grind in the game.
@@bumibomber Is that a 100% confirmation? if so where's the source of that percentage rate being 20?
Your portuguese is preety good btw, unless you're already portuguese or brazilian XD
Hahaha that one was George, he speaks Portuguese and Spanish!
@@TheGameClubDamn he speaks like a champ ngl
i just farm the red dragon on proud difficulty everyday with my katalina and lancelot 👀
It's a pretty good method, but it's entirely possible there's another difficulty that could be more efficient, if you're going to grind in the long term it's best to check the tool
No,,,, i got all my sup damage V+ on curious box of seedholow castle :)
i've farmed 1500+ curios already.. i guess its 8500 more to go xD
I don't play GBFR but good vid!
Bro forget supplemeantry damage. I need damage cap, i just beat the quest. I dont know how to unlock the proud fire wyvern quest and proto bahamut
Just sell your bad sigils for siero tickets and roll the sierokarte gacha for them
@@bumibomber bro i got luckly pulled supplemeantry damage 4 from curio and like 3 damage cap 5 and 2 damage cap.3
what's weakpoint in this game? How do I know if I hit the weakpoint?🧐
Me laughing in no supp dmg 5 plus and still doing perfectly fine. It is NOT a requirement to do great dmg but it certainly helps. Build the way you feel most comfortable and don't worry about having supp dmg 5, you can melt stuff without it as long as you're hitting the dmg cap and accounting for various possibilities with your other sigils ( don't sleep on stun, overdrive assassin, linked together, and stout heart + drain )
Absolutely, supplementary damage is merely a nice icing on an already great cake
Hi brother 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Still no war elemental, no terminus weapon at all. Great droprate, very fun to do auto for hours AFK when u dont have the time to do this stupid farm
which mission you recommenda to farm?
Everyone's team is different in composition, power and setup so it's not possible for us to recommend a specific mission that will be the most efficient for you. What you need to do is find missions you can complete really quickly in a given difficulty and plug the seconds into the calculator and it will tell you what you should be doing.
It's tedious to farm for hours so nothing decent drops...it's already tiring
It's certainly a marathon and not a race. As we've said in a few of our previous guides, Supp V+ is not required to make a perfectly decent build. Just take your time and enjoy the process, and it's totally OK to take a break and enjoy something else for a while. As much as we want to help everyone get the best stuff through our guides, we will also strive to encourage everyone to remember that at the end of the day, this is a game and you're supposed to have fun with it! 🙂
The game should've REALLY tossed us a free Supplementary Damage V for an endgame quest or something.
80 hours and about 400 curious in, I've only rolled 1, no war elemental. Halflway through my terminus weapon collection.
What difficulty have you been farming these curios? Me and my friends have numerous war elementals and supp Vs from just around 500~ curios in total.
@@PejorativeDaedal golemology 102 on very hard. And slimepede
The calculator also recommended I spam that mission as well btw
@@Tekshipie Interesting. Maybe dont rely too much on it since its clearly not working too well. Might have to change it up and farm abit in maniac or proud.
@@PejorativeDaedal I have a sinking suspicion my glass cannon v. Life on the line v and 2 roll of the die ate my supp damage v rolls
WOO LETS GO
Notable to add my times from iPhone. Please help, thanks
I don't know if you can make a copy of the document from an iphone, but if you can, you can then make the edits if you can do sheet edits on an iphone. I use android, so you'll have to google or have other commenters help.
There is no "d" in "Granblue Fantasy"
Suppress the Mandela effect.
omg I can't believe we didn't notice this until just now 😂
I just got supp III+ after spaming vulkan bola at maniac , and get Supp V+ but forgot from where because i dont chase it at all but i got it 😅 , and recently i got War elemental i think i get the curio between light dragon , dark dragon , the white lizard and proto because i just spam that 4 quest.
must be nice knowing how docs work
so more of the same info
no actual new info from these other vids, just farm and pray.
I see you didn't watch the video 😂
@@TheGameClub I did