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  • @devindykstra
    @devindykstra 3 роки тому +3105

    It's been a while since I've heard Linus compliment a webcam

    • @nite9218
      @nite9218 3 роки тому +4

      yea

    • @maxpoweroverdrive
      @maxpoweroverdrive 3 роки тому +12

      When was the last time?

    • @jimitSoni
      @jimitSoni 3 роки тому +30

      It was so bad before, anything could be betterr

    • @nite9218
      @nite9218 3 роки тому +2

      @@maxpoweroverdrive can't remember, 2019?

    • @nite9218
      @nite9218 3 роки тому +1

      @@jimitSoni yup

  • @jimitSoni
    @jimitSoni 3 роки тому +1155

    " Costs an ARM and a leg"
    Never been so accurate

    • @doxydoxdelamanca9902
      @doxydoxdelamanca9902 3 роки тому +5

      Intel Xeon powered iMac: hold my pins.

    • @fred-youtube
      @fred-youtube 3 роки тому

      The Raspberry Pi has an ARM but it doesnt cost an ARM and a leg

    • @isaacbenson1631
      @isaacbenson1631 3 роки тому +6

      TheLightSilent apparently the arm iMacs are going to be quite powerful it’s not your average arm cpu like that in a raspberry pi it’s a completely different format the developer kit using the cpu from the iPad Pro is supposedly more powerful then most current intel macs

    • @blaynestaleypro
      @blaynestaleypro 3 роки тому +8

      @@thelightsilent you think Apple is going to use what they've been using? They're going to create the world's first desktop class ARM processor. First yet again. And to be as powerful as an x86 you need basically half the clock speed more or less. x86 are inefficient trash that should have been thrown out to the curb years ago.

    • @Sup_D
      @Sup_D 3 роки тому +3

      @@fred-youtube Raspberry Pi and Apple are two different Companies. You can't compare there business policies.
      So, its sure that Apple's ARM based system would cost more than what an Intel based system would have costed.

  • @gentoouser4361
    @gentoouser4361 3 роки тому +1431

    My school: "I'll take your entire stock"

    • @rubiconnn
      @rubiconnn 3 роки тому +215

      School: Cuts funding for every activity except sports, cuts teacher salaries, serves shitty cheap Aramark food.
      Also schoo: Buys a ton of new overpriced iMacs.

    • @realazee
      @realazee 3 роки тому +53

      Rubiconnn schools purchase iMacs at a HUGE discount, usually around ~400-600 per machine

    • @DeeSnow97
      @DeeSnow97 3 роки тому +67

      @@realazee that still prices it higher than a reasonable PC at equivalent specs (but on a mainstream CPU instead of a Xeon for no reason), plus non-apple PCs tend to not expire in two years

    • @aronseptianto8142
      @aronseptianto8142 3 роки тому +44

      i seriously question the working of the school executive
      what will they get buying overpriced computer?
      they're schools, what do you expect your student to do on school PC
      is this a marketing point for them? that their school is too snobbish to buy entry level PC with an SSD and an APU in it?
      and just for the americans out there, why do y'all seems to have a problem with wages, y'all sounded like a third world country runned by oligarch at this point

    • @gam3rmom3nt3
      @gam3rmom3nt3 3 роки тому

      @@aronseptianto8142 the only point would be cad

  • @xHadesStamps
    @xHadesStamps 3 роки тому +74

    "How much better does this look and sound?" Uh...You were using a professional camera and microphone preceding and succeeding that clip, so...a lot worse.

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi 3 роки тому +3

      Lol yeah. But the webcam upgrade is still pretty decent. It has an improved 1080p webcam over the last 720p one and it uses Apple’s image processing for the front camera for the iPhone 7.

  • @henrywaters
    @henrywaters 3 роки тому +1845

    “Dead on arrival, just like I think of our sponsor, Ridge wallet.”

    • @ramathiam6592
      @ramathiam6592 3 роки тому +30

      Lmao

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 3 роки тому +9

      Ray Zhao
      The Fresh books app, you have clients?
      why you need linus?

    • @benfoley6472
      @benfoley6472 3 роки тому +4

      thats what i thought too lmfao

    • @nics129
      @nics129 3 роки тому +15

      I scrolled down to the comment as soon as I heard that haha

    • @pspcow
      @pspcow 3 роки тому +22

      A cheap generic leather wallet is better than a metal clip

  • @AbhirupTapadar
    @AbhirupTapadar 3 роки тому +1415

    "The experience of buying a brand new machine that's dead on arrival. And I think that's really special. Just like I think our sponsor, Ridge, is special!" Yeah Linus, I don't think Ridge is going to be too happy about that segue... 😅

    • @maxpoweroverdrive
      @maxpoweroverdrive 3 роки тому +27

      Ya, I don't like Ridge wallets!

    • @iyousef46
      @iyousef46 3 роки тому +17

      It's technically the truth 😂

    • @mynxeram
      @mynxeram 3 роки тому +105

      $110 for a wallet is as special as apples pricing model

    • @Mart-E12
      @Mart-E12 3 роки тому +1

      Can wallets be dead

    • @maxpoweroverdrive
      @maxpoweroverdrive 3 роки тому +16

      @@idot2963 I'm not saying the price is to high, but the experience and "wellbeing of the cards" after using it for 2years, taught me, my old leather wallet is much better, cheaper.

  • @MaddieFrankX
    @MaddieFrankX 3 роки тому +417

    "Finally the webcam and microphone have been upraged!"
    How bad was it to call this an upgrade?!

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 3 роки тому +61

      Especially on a premium priced product.

    • @ridwan9610
      @ridwan9610 3 роки тому +23

      @@robertp457 yeah, we can buy a custom equivalant pc and also get a dslr for webcam with the same price

    • @TheRealBOBlibob
      @TheRealBOBlibob 3 роки тому +6

      It was really bad. You can see a huge difference in the comparison Jonathan Morrison made on his channel

    • @svpracer98
      @svpracer98 3 роки тому +1

      720p...

    • @FlyboyHelosim
      @FlyboyHelosim 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah it still looked, and certainly sounded, shit.

  • @GavinAnderegg
    @GavinAnderegg 3 роки тому +101

    I guess I get where Linus is going here... but basically his theme is: upgrade to the new platform immediately, or you'll be left behind. My issue with this is that there's a lot of software that isn't going to be ARM native for a while. Getting an x86 machine now means compatibility with *existing* software for a while. This is important for some folks. I bought a PowerMac G5 at the beginning of the Intel transition, and I was happy with it for 5 years. I think it'll be similar this time around as well.

    • @DerDudelino
      @DerDudelino 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah just look at Microsoft. They failed to run ARM Windows for years. I am sure Apples own apps will run beautifully but Adobe and the others will have a tough time adapting. Plus: No more Bootcamp Windows on iMac.

    • @LyricsFred
      @LyricsFred 3 роки тому +4

      The world is very very different now, like linus said, the new mac's will be able to run ipad and iphone apps, for developers that means that they only have to make one app that will run in 3 different OS's what's the incentive to keep x86 apps for too long.

    • @DerDudelino
      @DerDudelino 3 роки тому +10

      @@LyricsFred They are just iOS apps, so dumbed down versions. Photoshop for iOS is far away from the professional product.

    • @acehindiephoto
      @acehindiephoto 3 роки тому +7

      @@LyricsFred what's important about x86 ? All full versions of professional apps for the moment only works on x86 that's why Microsoft surface pro x failed.

    • @jwillis35
      @jwillis35 3 роки тому +3

      The new iMac is a seriously good machine and is a good buy for those who want one. It will be supported for at least 3 to 4 years, and who cares if you use it longer. If it works, it works.

  • @ryana391
    @ryana391 3 роки тому +586

    I like how his hairstyle randomly changed once the intro ended lol

  • @3Black.1Red
    @3Black.1Red 3 роки тому +401

    Old video title: "The best iMac yet is the worst Mac to buy
    "
    Seems fine to me. why the change?

    • @oldman0
      @oldman0 3 роки тому +14

      they always change the title

    • @oorjitmishra8521
      @oorjitmishra8521 3 роки тому +122

      They create good video titles for subscribers then change them to clickbait for YT trending and stuff.

    • @xirma377
      @xirma377 3 роки тому +3

      @@oorjitmishra8521 Interesting.

    • @jlu
      @jlu 3 роки тому +9

      Ikr seems like passive gaslighting

    • @glasscube
      @glasscube 3 роки тому +54

      @@jlu Don't blame the players blame the game, this is the kind of stuff you have to do to beat the google algos

  • @usptact
    @usptact 3 роки тому +4

    Upgrading from iMac 27” 2017 to 2020 iMac 27” was a great speed up in code builds and running all those hefty Docker containers.

  • @user-gb4iv7yd5i
    @user-gb4iv7yd5i 3 роки тому

    0:39 I watched the full thing in one sitting. Very informative, straight to the point, conversational. Thank you.

  • @adili9427
    @adili9427 3 роки тому +48

    Whenever you show a webcam's prowess, show an alternative so we can see a comparison. We're just looking at it straight after your 8K Reds.

  • @aditjindal
    @aditjindal 3 роки тому +105

    "Costs an ARM and leg."
    LMAO

    • @CricketEngland
      @CricketEngland 3 роки тому +1

      Yea well Apple have been ripping off its customers since the late 70’s 😀😅

  • @stalman
    @stalman 3 роки тому +414

    I can see you guys have been stepping up the lighting and camera work lately, looks great! If your DP sees this comment I'd love to know which diffusion you're using there 😅

    • @harizone
      @harizone 3 роки тому +6

      Eyy, didn't expect you to see here! 😁

    • @Ben.N
      @Ben.N 3 роки тому +31

      Double penetration?!

    • @stalman
      @stalman 3 роки тому +42

      @@Ben.N expand your horizons

    • @stalman
      @stalman 3 роки тому +10

      @@harizone 👋🏼

    • @legendaryblaze817
      @legendaryblaze817 3 роки тому +1

      @@Ben.N Exactly.

  • @jozh7138
    @jozh7138 3 роки тому +6

    I really like the level of quality linus's videos have become lately

  • @abelbrites9592
    @abelbrites9592 3 роки тому +364

    Linus: rat nest hair and socks with sandals
    Every girl's dream: . . .

    • @theshadowman1398
      @theshadowman1398 3 роки тому +70

      His bank account is every girl’s dream.

    • @NetMan_PL
      @NetMan_PL 3 роки тому +2

      me meanwhile: ua-cam.com/video/PayvWj2piKg/v-deo.html

    • @wilduu
      @wilduu 3 роки тому +2

      @Johnnys Tech Tips you're lying that's a legit link. everyone should click on it.

    • @ThirstysURL
      @ThirstysURL 3 роки тому +3

      He isn't allowed anything anyway His wife would scowl at him forever and make his life not worth living.
      The best part about being a man is freedom.

    • @anarchyantz1564
      @anarchyantz1564 3 роки тому +2

      You forgot to mention bulging wallet with a net worth so far about 25 Million Canadian shekels and about 3.8 million a year just from YT advertising. Its enough to make anyone, male or female wet......

  • @KeeperOfKale222
    @KeeperOfKale222 3 роки тому +345

    LTT: “The worst Mac to buy”
    Me: *Cries in 2010 iMac*

    • @Prodzick
      @Prodzick 3 роки тому +11

      Your patience will be rewarded.

    • @BenchClips
      @BenchClips 3 роки тому +6

      Me cries with “broken” pc with only i3 7100 no gpu

    • @BenchClips
      @BenchClips 3 роки тому +2

      Which I bought for £600 2-3 years ago

    • @PackardKotch
      @PackardKotch 3 роки тому +3

      2010 macbook white over here

    • @Ravenousjoe
      @Ravenousjoe 3 роки тому +7

      You got 10 years out of it, clearly a pretty god little machine. I just sold a 2008 MBP with just a ram and ssd upgrade, and using it (never owned a Mac before) was actually kinda nice. I liked the little system, but I have no need for a dual core laptop in my home, so it found itself an apple fan to take care of it.

  • @septic_eye_revolution7603
    @septic_eye_revolution7603 3 роки тому +9

    iMac 27' with the Retina 5K-display is truly the great workstation for the professional Python/Swift/Java developers or even for editing the 4K or the 8K-resolution videos, the Photoshop, The 3D Graphics, the VR experience and all the other apps! Thanks for the great video, Linus! Apple will give a great example to the other Tech companies if they actually decide to support their Intel-based Macs for year to come just like the announced M1-processor computers on the Special Event!

  • @himher9073
    @himher9073 3 роки тому +1

    A thought worth considering is to use a card board, yes cardboard mod to solve the heating issues.
    Back in the old old old days of the 512k Mac / Mac Plus a genuine genius came up with a cardboard top hat that effectively quadrupled airflow, and thus cooling absolutely silently. And yes it looked just like a top hat chimney.
    Add in some exterior mounted heat sinks within the airflow envelope and the problem may end up becoming too much cooling.

  • @rayyanshaikh5591
    @rayyanshaikh5591 3 роки тому +330

    Linus: "webcam is FINALLY good!"
    Webcam: *4 fps*

    • @keco185
      @keco185 3 роки тому +19

      It's a 30 fps webcam

    • @Wahinies
      @Wahinies 3 роки тому +7

      I hate to see what his idea of a bad webcam is

    • @blacbraun
      @blacbraun 3 роки тому +17

      @@Wahinies 480p on the old 12 inch Macbook is a good example of bad webcam for sure.

    • @jpxyUA
      @jpxyUA 3 роки тому +18

      funny how we can deepfake faceswap and it looks more real than a 30fps webcam footage on a 2020 device

    • @xx-----------xx873
      @xx-----------xx873 3 роки тому +11

      It’s just that we are looking from RED 8k downsampled to a 1080p camera.

  • @Revolve-Studios
    @Revolve-Studios 3 роки тому +420

    That bezel tho.. straight outta 2010

    • @MHWGamer
      @MHWGamer 3 роки тому +38

      even in 2014 or so I thought that the bezels are just too ugly and big. As apple (and their users) always say that they care for the look, I have never got why people buy the imac

    • @ThinkCleverAndSmart
      @ThinkCleverAndSmart 3 роки тому +6

      Actually even 2009 lol. Let's see what the ARM iMac will look like

    • @squeakers27
      @squeakers27 3 роки тому

      I agree with you on that, it's ashame they are still using the old design but didn't make the bezels smaller as they look quite thick.

    • @chudthug
      @chudthug 3 роки тому +5

      My fucking school chromebook has smaller bezels

    • @ThinkCleverAndSmart
      @ThinkCleverAndSmart 3 роки тому +6

      @@chudthug A lot of CRT TVs have thinner bezels lol

  • @nicolfilm
    @nicolfilm 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Linus for the great memories of buying a G5 right before Intel in 2005. Changed to windows after and not looked back.

  • @boomish69
    @boomish69 3 роки тому +2

    Best review I’ve seen for ages , this is exactly why I’m not planning on upgrading anytime soon..

  • @lebaguette7392
    @lebaguette7392 3 роки тому +404

    Linus goes silent for a second
    Everyone: he's going to talk about the sponsor and isn't he
    Linus: BUY THE RIDGE WALLET

  • @BrokenHeart000
    @BrokenHeart000 3 роки тому +166

    *“Costs an ARM and a leg”* is the Intro Title of this video.

    • @aadisahni
      @aadisahni 3 роки тому +5

      Oh wow, you can see. Damn, I can't see anything

    • @xx-----------xx873
      @xx-----------xx873 3 роки тому +1

      Nope, I reckon it would be better than the current intel offerings. They have complete and utter control over it, with no ME to worry about.

  • @tempts7270
    @tempts7270 3 роки тому +62

    My school: something’s right, I can feel it

    • @ampere7220
      @ampere7220 3 роки тому +1

      Mine is still using Cinema Displays and old Mac Pro..

    • @EpicB
      @EpicB 3 роки тому +1

      My school was still using Windows XP until 2015 or 2016. I know the art teacher had an iMac but I don't know whose money that was on. We certainly didn't hand out MacBooks too all the students though.

    • @engineergaming4295
      @engineergaming4295 3 роки тому

      In my school we just use shitty base model chomebooks, while the teachers use 2010 MacBook pros

  • @starfall5093
    @starfall5093 3 роки тому

    I'm always watching your videos and it gives me knowledge about computers even though I don't have my own. But still Its mportant to be knowledgeable about new technologies

  • @enzdude
    @enzdude 3 роки тому +16

    Love it or hate it, the fact that the iMac kept the same general design for 13 years is pretty impressive.

  • @joejoe324
    @joejoe324 3 роки тому +249

    "You will get about 2 years of enjoyable experience give or take a year" So one year.

    • @TheLongIslanderYT
      @TheLongIslanderYT 3 роки тому +13

      1 - 3 years

    • @jimitSoni
      @jimitSoni 3 роки тому +9

      6 months
      Take it or leave it

    • @dawfurby
      @dawfurby 3 роки тому +2

      Not true, more like 6-7. It’s for as long as Apple supports the 2020 iMac.

    • @ned_filip6728
      @ned_filip6728 3 роки тому +14

      @@dawfurby its about usability, not for how long its supported

    • @Henry_Jr_Watsson
      @Henry_Jr_Watsson 3 роки тому +13

      @@dawfurby Apple did only for 3 years when they switched from PowerPC to Intel. So, their track-record is concerning.

  • @robbret
    @robbret 3 роки тому +5

    God dammit, I've been putting off replacing my aging late 2013 iMac for years. And now this.

    • @Viper-dn8ix
      @Viper-dn8ix 3 роки тому

      Hey don't go after the 2013 iMac's like that. They're beastly machines for being eight years old!
      Well... If you don't do professional work I guess. I didn't think of that, my bad!!

  • @alexanderorlins641
    @alexanderorlins641 3 роки тому +2

    Just bought the 2020 27in 10-core iMac. I'll get back to you in a couple years!

  • @navneethramesh7422
    @navneethramesh7422 3 роки тому +118

    2:40
    Wait
    Di-Di Did Linus just compliment a we- we- webcam.
    "Woah that's something I did not see coming in the video"

  • @Afterlifesinner
    @Afterlifesinner 3 роки тому +58

    4:19, the arrows make no sense.
    it should be [Apple Silicon -/-> Intel CPU] when the prior statement [Intel App --> Apple Silicon] is true.

    • @danb3785
      @danb3785 3 роки тому +3

      Rosetta 2 allows you to run an Intel binary on Apple Silicon through instruction translation. It doesn’t work the other way, but also it doesn’t need to as it’s just there to support legacy binaries.

    • @dish9849
      @dish9849 3 роки тому +4

      @@lightningcat6382 is apple cpu can read intel apps but Intel CPU can't read apple apps

    • @danb3785
      @danb3785 3 роки тому

      Lightning Cat I see what you mean. I was confused because the OP left out “App”. The banned arrow is pointing the wrong way.

  • @anch95
    @anch95 3 роки тому +4

    0:38
    I'm not too sure Ridgewallet would be happy with that segway.

  • @fourdee4d
    @fourdee4d 3 роки тому

    Linus and Ant. Thank you Sir's. Welcome back.
    We need it.

  • @antan2329
    @antan2329 3 роки тому +26

    I have like a 6 year old one. Playing games is a nightmare. Just waiting to see if they do ROG rig reboot this year

    • @luigi6835
      @luigi6835 3 роки тому

      Most likely no, covid is the problem

    • @realhuman7911
      @realhuman7911 3 роки тому

      I have a good video idea for the reboot

    • @tommegg8486
      @tommegg8486 3 роки тому

      @METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS better yet Linux, it's super competitive nowadays.

  • @Mitch_tr
    @Mitch_tr 3 роки тому +12

    All was looking forward for the new vids every day! Every one is amazing. Thank you for the tech tips I am able to build my own system

  • @strangedotmachine9281
    @strangedotmachine9281 3 роки тому +10

    Linus, I love your take on this. The Apple press wasn’t as honest about this. This is bad investment. Wait if you need a new Mac. The picture will become clearer toward the end of the year.

    • @ReedHarston
      @ReedHarston 3 роки тому +1

      Did you listen to his final take on this? I just bought one of these because as a Mac developer I want something I can develop on (big screen, lots of cores and RAM (that I upgraded myself)) while supporting the Intel version of my apps for as long as possible. I wanted this Mac for good reason, along with many others like me, so calling it a bad investment outright for everyone is shortsighted.
      I plan on getting an Apple Silicon laptop when they come out so I can test my apps on it (and because the benefits of moving to Apple Silicon/Arm will be much more obvious in a battery powered device), but this iMac will be my development machine for years to come.

    • @michaelottesen6143
      @michaelottesen6143 3 роки тому

      @@ReedHarston Sorry Reed, but MOST people are NOT apple developers, so the other 99% of us will probably wait for everything to shake out.

    • @ReedHarston
      @ReedHarston 3 роки тому +1

      @@michaelottesen6143 That is fine. My point isn't that this makes sense for everybody, but that it does make sense for somebody.

  • @mrmaddoxp
    @mrmaddoxp 3 роки тому +1

    I plan on using my 2008 unibody Mac as long as possible. I love that thing.

  • @Hidskb
    @Hidskb 3 роки тому +173

    WAIT HE CHANGED THE TITLE!!
    It used to be: the worst iMac to buy is the best one
    But now it’s: the WORST iMac to buy

    • @jimitSoni
      @jimitSoni 3 роки тому +2

      Nope. He didn't

    • @jmporkbob
      @jmporkbob 3 роки тому +2

      it got changed back to the original title. so it changed twice lol.

    • @toasty648
      @toasty648 3 роки тому

      jmporkbob and back again

    • @berengerchristy6256
      @berengerchristy6256 3 роки тому +1

      Algorithm shenanigans. I believe in one of their explanations they use a more provocative title to get some people and then change it so something more informative for their regular viewers

    • @somewhatBoring
      @somewhatBoring 3 роки тому +2

      @@jmporkbob changex 3 times

  • @true8325
    @true8325 3 роки тому +23

    2:42 Well, there's the teleprompter.

    • @ofecto
      @ofecto 3 роки тому +3

      6:13 funny how he pronounced chamfered “Camfered”. Typo on the tele or Linus can’t read good ?

  • @agenericaccount3935
    @agenericaccount3935 3 роки тому +4

    This review reminds me of every middle management compliment sandwich laden employment review ever. "Hey great job on the Manchester account but you need to stop taking dumps in the lunchroom garbage can. Also, your attendance is spotless"

  • @angelagould1290
    @angelagould1290 3 роки тому

    Very knowledgeable

  • @Novit_
    @Novit_ 3 роки тому +86

    Nobody:
    Apple: *u wanna buy a monitor and a stand 1500$ each??*

    • @lebryantjohnson7306
      @lebryantjohnson7306 3 роки тому +3

      lmao I didnt get that. Sure its free advertisement but like cmon doesn't that add to the negative expensive greedy stigma surrounding apple?

    • @eclpse9314
      @eclpse9314 3 роки тому +1

      old meme, still funny

    • @BeastMode070subscribe
      @BeastMode070subscribe 3 роки тому

      Bruh atleast watch the whole video

    • @clickbaitpro
      @clickbaitpro 3 роки тому +1

      @Gravity Yup, my 10 years old PC still works

    • @godnessy
      @godnessy 3 роки тому +2

      millions of morons: pls please! can you make it more expensive while lagging behind the innovation industry by years and telling me its cutting edge???

  • @hareeshs86
    @hareeshs86 3 роки тому +104

    I've never heard Linus so tired/uninterested in a device. Might just be a rough day, but nevertheless, damn.

    • @night1wind
      @night1wind 3 роки тому +11

      Exactly what I thought! Something was off the whole video!!

    • @em8824
      @em8824 3 роки тому +14

      He seemed ill.

    • @UserTenNumbers
      @UserTenNumbers 3 роки тому +2

      Get well soon bud.

    • @larsvegas1505
      @larsvegas1505 3 роки тому +36

      well its a apple product.. its hard to get exited about those.. its a decent package.. but nothing new.. and then u got the price..

    • @hareeshs86
      @hareeshs86 3 роки тому

      @@larsvegas1505 yeah but then he'd be visibly frustrated, not tired? That, or he's just given up Apple to make something he'd like, and we're looking at a defeated Linus 😂

  • @ngthav
    @ngthav 3 роки тому

    alway love ltt review because they al way talk about pro&con not just pro

  • @luiscardenas8816
    @luiscardenas8816 3 роки тому +4

    Remember when Linus read mean comments and someone said something about his hair and his defense was that he had no idea what to do with it? I believe him.

  • @solomioist
    @solomioist 3 роки тому +11

    2:42 LTT you disappoint me. There should be some jokes on the teleprompter.

  • @keco185
    @keco185 3 роки тому +5

    9:30 to be fair, that was during a time when there were significant year-over-year processor improvements that meant the older Macs might not have had the processing power to run the newer OS in the manner apple intended.

    • @brrebrresen1367
      @brrebrresen1367 3 роки тому

      well... the G4 macbooks maybe, but the dual cpu desktop G5's where not that outdated just 3 years later, though they still had the same problem as when they launched... the G5 costed to much and where just to noisy.
      though at least did they know that the heat-sink maybe should have contact with the cpu back then, something Apple suddenly have forgotten on the last year...
      but when it comes to future support, forget it. Apple have never been much future proof with exception of iphone 6, but that have more been down to iOS require less and that they had to have an cheaper option for customers that could not pay put 800++£ on an phone every year.
      OSX 10.5, the last one supporting PPC and released in 2009 is today in fact in many cases more limited in more up to date software than Windows ME\98SE is...
      (example: last browser for 10.5 is from 2014 with Chrome 25 or Opera 26, Safari updates was cut in 2011 just 2 years after launch. Opera 28 was last for Windows 9x launched in 2015 and will work even on an Windows 95! PC)

    • @johngaltline9933
      @johngaltline9933 3 роки тому

      The issue was never being able to run new stuff on old Macs for most power PC users. It was that all your old software ceased to function in 2009. I still run a machine on 10.6 so that I can use programs that I can't otherwise use.

  • @hugogrotius9964
    @hugogrotius9964 3 роки тому +3

    The 2012 IMac looks allmost exactly the same... Mad.

  • @markflo8412
    @markflo8412 3 роки тому +12

    Just got one and love it!

  • @TangoTim4
    @TangoTim4 3 роки тому +5

    I remember the whole powerPC move ... cost me about 5k in software I had to re-buy (around 10k at today's prices of that software) .... because the wonderful folks didn't let you update/upgrade & some just didn't offer one & then there were several companies that just didn't exist by then so SOL to you.

    • @jyoungbr549
      @jyoungbr549 3 роки тому

      My guess is that you will have to do it again when their new processors hit the market since they are dropping intel and switching to ARM architecture in the next gen macs.

  • @martonwapper
    @martonwapper 3 роки тому +8

    1:01 My google assistant came on! lol 😂

  • @Marck1o
    @Marck1o 3 роки тому +1

    I'm still stuck with my iMac late 2009. Was a good buy at it's time.

  • @AlvaroQF
    @AlvaroQF 3 роки тому

    I have had a MBP Late 2008 until now and it still works great, I’ll wait a couple of years more, i mean, if it does not break, which i doubt that will happen.

  • @ksrtckingmaga
    @ksrtckingmaga 3 роки тому +71

    4:18 the arrows both show intel to arm linus.

    • @ahmadhalabiah3714
      @ahmadhalabiah3714 3 роки тому +1

      6⃣ 9⃣ OMG

    • @Dornacgove
      @Dornacgove 3 роки тому +2

      But one is from intel CPU and other from intel compatible APPs

    • @ksrtckingmaga
      @ksrtckingmaga 3 роки тому +1

      @@Dornacgove He said "rosetta 2 only goes one way". only intel to arm, not the other way

    • @FOGoticus
      @FOGoticus 3 роки тому +1

      I'm glad I was not the only one. I was so confused.

    • @SteveGamesOnline
      @SteveGamesOnline 3 роки тому +3

      @@ksrtckingmaga He said you can run an Intel application on an arm based processor, but you can't run an arm application on an intel based processor. Please read it more carefully.

  • @lomelyo
    @lomelyo 3 роки тому +3

    iOS apps have run natively on Mac for years thanks to XCode. This is the case for Mac apps too, with a few API exceptions. I honestly doubt that things will change a lot. XCode is in a much different state than when PowerPc was launched.

  • @nes.torfernandez
    @nes.torfernandez 3 роки тому +3

    Is so sad that such a good UA-cam channel like this promotes the insane consumer problem we are facing nowadays.
    I’m a full time filmmaker and occasional photographer working with big and heavy footage in premiere pro and other apps, I got the lates 2020 iMac with a i7 and the 5700xt 16GB of Graphics and is running fantastic. I bet the new line of apple silicone iMac is not going to be as good as this machine and it will take a few years to them to actually build something like that. Being said that i don’t consider myself a common iMac user due to the amount of power my work demand. So yes this iMac or any of the base mode will be more than enough for most of people

    • @michalwiktorow2188
      @michalwiktorow2188 2 роки тому

      Lol, knowing now how things went, your comment sounds funny. Go compare now perfomance of Apple Silocon iMac's ... and again hope that they will support yours for reasonable time.

    • @nes.torfernandez
      @nes.torfernandez 2 роки тому

      @@michalwiktorow2188 😂😂😂😂 I actually did both the and the new toy computer with lots of colors and they are garbage not only becase I said so but because everyone in UA-cam thinks the same way. Also I doubt the lates imac 27 inch 2021 model is going to be discontinued anytime soon 😌 but thanks for your feedback back next steep get your own one so you can speak for you and not repeat from other

    • @afrieddimsim
      @afrieddimsim 2 роки тому +1

      @@nes.torfernandez lol, these comments continue to age like milk

  • @omergulcu
    @omergulcu 3 роки тому

    Your new style rocks.

  • @johnj8639
    @johnj8639 3 роки тому +89

    Finally a real review, all the apple tubers basically said to just buy it, even dave2d, which was a little of a surprise.

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 3 роки тому +22

      So many Apple enthusiasts can't see the terrible pricing.

    • @tanmayjaiswal5935
      @tanmayjaiswal5935 3 роки тому +29

      I was extremely extremely disappointed when Dave dropped that nonsensical review that said it doesn't matter, just buy this now. That was such shit. I'm glad at least someone significant is highlighting the shit that apple is trying to pull with this iMac.

    • @CorporateShill66
      @CorporateShill66 3 роки тому +1

      @@tanmayjaiswal5935 Oh yea buy it even if you bought one last year, because a computer doesn't last more than a year these days XD

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 3 роки тому +5

      @@robertp457 I think it's safe to say that all Apple enthusiasts have their head in the sand to some degree. You'd think that some of them would do a little research into the devices they worship. The build quality just gets worse and worse. The thermals are horrendous. Close your eyes and click on any Louis Rossmann video and in five minutes anyone would become unreasonably angry about how poorly soldered and engineered these things are.
      I can't think of any type of consumer who has a real need for a mac. Having a tablet + keyboard does almost all of the same stuff that people use their computers for daily. For anyone who wants a desktop in the mid-range, spending ten minutes clicking around on pcpartpicker will save them at least two grand. Professionals who need bigass beefcake computers can get an insane amount of mileage out of a simple threadripper build and probably save ten grand. They wouldn't have to worry about this legacy software nightmare either. It's not like switching from Intel to AMD makes Windows stop working in a traditional setup.
      Any studio sitting on $100k+ of Apple computers must have so much poop in their pants now. Half the programs their employees use every day will no longer receive updates until they replace the whole fleet. And after they buy those new ARM Macs... well, now half the third party software that their employees rely on are completely broken until they provide an update, if those developers are even working on a port. What an expensive logistical nightmare.
      Anytime I see Apple products being sold I feel like I'm watching someone getting beaten and mugged in an alley.

    • @exod4
      @exod4 3 роки тому +1

      Your first mistake was watching an "apple tuber"

  • @crogongrey4549
    @crogongrey4549 3 роки тому +8

    10:55 'Hey you, random underling! Keep track of my beard!' 'OK boss.' ;-P

  • @jesga0
    @jesga0 3 роки тому +4

    "-It just works!"
    *_-Linus Howard, 2020_*

  • @chugalingus4642
    @chugalingus4642 3 роки тому +1

    I hope chad linus never goes away, looking at old videos im surprised he didnt do this sooner

  • @aguyyoudontknow7090
    @aguyyoudontknow7090 3 роки тому +73

    The experience of wasting a lot of money

  • @nathantagg2691
    @nathantagg2691 3 роки тому +26

    4:17 the visual is incorrect. It says that it can go from intel to apple silicon but not from intel to apple silicon

    • @antonioballesteros5520
      @antonioballesteros5520 3 роки тому +8

      That’s not what it says it says that an intel app can run on Apple silicon cpu but an intel cpu cannot run an Apple silicon app

    • @nijelly12345
      @nijelly12345 3 роки тому +3

      Antonio Ballesteros you’re correct but it’s still really confusing especially given how little time there is to read it

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 3 роки тому

      nijelly12345 I watch UA-cam on TiVo so I can rewind to parts I missed and skip forward past the ads.

    • @JonnyPowell
      @JonnyPowell 3 роки тому +1

      yep just like 1+1=2 is incorrect if you read it as 1+1=5

    • @lorinh2947
      @lorinh2947 3 роки тому +1

      @Antonio Ballesteros, That's not what is says. They pointlessly flipped the second arrow.
      An exact statement of what the graph represents minus the crossed out symbol:
      A x86 Application can run on ARM hardware
      A x86 hardware can run on ARM Application -- This doesn't even make sense
      What they wanted to say probably was:
      A x86 Application can run on ARM hardware
      A ARM Application can't run on x86 Hardware
      *ARM is the technology Apple Silicon is based on. x86 is what (most) intel CPUs are based on

  • @snelinternet4654
    @snelinternet4654 3 роки тому

    2:46 Autocue: "BURN TO THE IMAC"

  • @Zoolookuk
    @Zoolookuk 3 роки тому

    One thing to bear in mind, is that although Snow Leopard was Intel Only (offering performance increases and other benefits) the previous OS, Leopard got most of the same updates (like the new Safari). Also Leopard received security updates right up until 2013. So Apple didn't "drop support" for PowerPC 3 years after the first Intel Macs, it was 7 years later, and that was with a much smaller userbase that they have now.

  • @La8ghost
    @La8ghost 3 роки тому +97

    0:00 So Apple sponsored Linus to tell his viewers to buy Macs
    0:36 Oh wait nevermind.

  • @calebkrauter4027
    @calebkrauter4027 3 роки тому +3

    Loved the intro Linus! XD

  • @mikefas
    @mikefas 3 роки тому +1

    You buy because you need, not because you want. Problem isn’t that these last macs will be antiquated shortly, it’s that the suck while you wait. Crash regularly when you push them.

  • @retrotech2020
    @retrotech2020 3 роки тому

    Watching this and literally the first advert up was for the Samsung S21. Brilliant.

  • @xorinzor
    @xorinzor 3 роки тому +27

    "just like our sponsor, ridge" - Fair enough, that's also an ad that's dead on arrival, given how I always skip them 🤷‍♂️

  • @SabbraCadabra
    @SabbraCadabra 3 роки тому +5

    I really love Linus with the shaggy hair and beard. It's a good look for him, ironically

  • @joekenorer
    @joekenorer 3 роки тому

    Love the Jobs intro, well played.

  • @shahnoorrakin5747
    @shahnoorrakin5747 3 роки тому +2

    Watching a linus ad(pulse way) on linus' video !
    🤣

  • @Kifdy
    @Kifdy 3 роки тому +11

    "ahhh clearly worth more than pe grade" said swag goose 2020

  • @joshgeurink2131
    @joshgeurink2131 3 роки тому +5

    8:02 Straight Facts 😂

  • @rajzkhadgi7308
    @rajzkhadgi7308 3 роки тому

    At the beginning of the video I got an ad from Pulseway which had Linus in it and it took me a while to realize it wasn't the video

  • @sergioguerrero7613
    @sergioguerrero7613 3 роки тому +1

    So.... is it a good idea to buy this iMac (the base one) or better wait for 2021 version

  • @icomeinpeace2717
    @icomeinpeace2717 3 роки тому +25

    0:46 my bulge was never up

  • @leonthesleepy
    @leonthesleepy 3 роки тому +5

    iJustine: "whattttttttt"

  • @amicloud_yt
    @amicloud_yt 3 роки тому +8

    I love how whenever he says 'again' he goes full Canadian

    • @andrewb6241
      @andrewb6241 3 роки тому +1

      He does the same when he says against.

  • @cha-ka8671
    @cha-ka8671 3 роки тому

    I bought one. Love it.
    It’s gonna be a VERY VERY LONGTIME before ARM based takes off. ARM may be shooting themselves in the foot. Who the F switch’s from one core type to another to another??? It may be an improvement but, it hurts the end user!

  • @danieljensen2626
    @danieljensen2626 3 роки тому +10

    Dear Linus, please never part your hair down the middle again. Literally no one looks good with a middle part.

    • @brakozonhs1
      @brakozonhs1 3 роки тому +1

      Thats cause he was talking about an Apple product...You cant look serious and talk about an apple product at the same time.

    • @nail7904
      @nail7904 3 роки тому

      @@brakozonhs1 so make yourself look even more like an idiot, seems like a good idea

  • @andymiller1597
    @andymiller1597 3 роки тому +6

    watching this on the new 2020 imac lol

  • @hwy9nightkid
    @hwy9nightkid 3 роки тому

    Linus, love the channel.. for us in music.. we are unsure if the ARM mac will even run our old VSTs, DAWs, etc... so I am quite happy to snap up my 2020 mac mini maxed out, which will hopefully let me dodge this question until 2025 and beyond

  • @perdomot
    @perdomot 3 роки тому +1

    Anthony combed Linus' hair after the intro. LOL

    • @parv13
      @parv13 3 роки тому

      He's been messing with his hair nowadays. Very annoying.

  • @smoketinytom
    @smoketinytom 3 роки тому +7

    Last time I was this Early, Apple still cared about their customer base!

    • @gotioify
      @gotioify 3 роки тому +1

      @@obamasphere9950 beat me to it!

  • @give_me_my_nick_back
    @give_me_my_nick_back 3 роки тому +8

    I hope 2nd hand macs will once again become the cheaper alternative to PCs just like when they ditched ppc but then perhaps they won't lose much value as they can run Windows this time

  • @dirtdirtdirtiest9607
    @dirtdirtdirtiest9607 3 роки тому

    I have a 2012 Macbook pro I put a 1tb SSD in and medium res photo editing and getting me through college... and it was perfect. Got a 6 core Mac Mini as a graduation present (2 months before they even announced their silicon and I NEEDED an upgrade for professional work) and the performance is [currently] more than I could've hoped for (high res content across Adobe suite, mainly)
    If it gets gimped in two years... man... that'll hurt 😢

  • @GEOSynths
    @GEOSynths 3 роки тому

    I've just bought the 10 Core 2020 iMac and have fully thought about the updated versions coming up, however I got it to replace my 2017 3.5ghz i5 which has been fine, just not been able to handle Live Streaming with Guests. In Wirecast and having Logic open as well as Browser Tabs, I was hitting 90%+ CPU with my 2017 and only 720p, but the same with my 10 Core is about 9% with streaming at 1080p. So, it's the real world benefits, right now is what matters to me. As for how it looks, I couldn't give a Monkeys, it just replaces the space the old one was, same connections and migrated over. Back up and running in a day.

  • @BartechTV
    @BartechTV 3 роки тому +8

    I remember the transition from PPC to Intel (I'm also old enough to remember the transition from 68k to PPC). Within 3 years, you couldn't even give them away. Buying a new Intel-based Mac now is literally burning thousands of dollars.

    • @mrcanada1968
      @mrcanada1968 3 роки тому +3

      Unless your 2012 iMac just died and you need a replacement now for working from home!

    • @left4d0g
      @left4d0g 3 роки тому +1

      If we're talking about regular consumers - that's what would probably happen. If we're talking about pros who need Macs for their workflow - they need their audio card working out of box, they need their software to be compatible out of box, not under Rosetta emulation. And for those - these are great machines.

    • @calculus77
      @calculus77 3 роки тому +2

      @@left4d0g I've been using a Mac for music making (hobby, not professional musician) since ca. 1987. I remember those 68k to PPC and PPC to Intel transitions well, too. In my experience, they both went surprisingly smoothly.
      I'm typing this on my 2014 iMac 5k, but DHL will bring my new iMac 27" with the 10-core processor and 2 TB SSD the day after tomorrow. I considered my options very carefully, but decided to order the last intel iMac, because it will have about 3x the processing power for music production compared to my current iMac, and... compatibility. I have invested thousands of euros in 3rd party music software and on a fast intel machine they will work great for the next 5 years. After that... well, I'm sure there will be a lot of great and stable music software for the Apple silicon Macs.

  • @sayarganguly5125
    @sayarganguly5125 3 роки тому +5

    Linus : Just like our sponsor, Dead on arrival 💀

  • @manu_solano
    @manu_solano 3 роки тому +2

    The design prediction was surprisingly close, but the chin still refuses to die :(

  • @gf5617
    @gf5617 3 роки тому +2

    "it will look nice on our desk, lets get it"

  • @goldenpipes
    @goldenpipes 3 роки тому +6

    in 2 years Apple will have an emulation solution for Intel Mac's to run the new ARM apps for only $499.

    • @mattjclay
      @mattjclay 3 роки тому

      All apple products should come with lube, to make things easier when they ram it inside of you.

  • @suspence7207
    @suspence7207 3 роки тому +3

    0:35 No Linus, you're special

  • @JulioOAO
    @JulioOAO 3 роки тому

    4:04, best commercial ever!

  • @negeya-sama
    @negeya-sama 3 роки тому

    2:41 now that's some words