At least once every month, I always come back here to rewatch this scene, along with the one, where Batou and Kuze fight! Amazing! Truly the peak of GitS Anime! I really wish Kuze would've got his own spin-off series! He's such a cool (I especially like the "Cyborg Ronin Vibe" he gaves), interesting and well designed character, but unfortunately he's also very underrated (at least the way I see it), even among the GitS Fanbase. A series about him, during his wandering years (2024 - 2032) would've given us so much S.A.C Lore and world building! Imo, it definitely would've been a much better series than Arise and 2045/Netflix.
@@NatsuDragionFairyTail Yeah. Fuck that shit. Like, it's not Berserk CGI bad, but ugh, hell no. What's worse is they're still running with fucking young-Mokoto. We want adult Mokoto. Not this loli-weeboo shit.
@@PhilipPetrunak i agree young motoko feels wack as fuck gits is suposed to be mature and dark and now i feel lime disney made this fucking season lmao
Also, a sword is much harder to notice than a sword+person. If someday the military would develop a cloaking system that makes soldiers invisble except their guns, that would still be an extremly effective thing and would be better than not having this tech at all
hmm, this is the first time it's bothered me, but ahs anyone else noticed that Kuze makes like a 500-600 meter leap in distance into the forest? his mountain infantry unit got outfitted with some damn good legs.
I would assume then that his body is several generations out dated and thus heavier. Mountain terrain is also be tough on equiment and bodies so as Mountain Infantry, especially for his deployment (in northern china if i recall in snowy mountains) His body should be heavy duty intended for battering against boulders and insulated against extreme cold and or heat.
Security: Monitors everything Fails to spot a floating katana Has nothing like mini radar, motion sensors etc relies solely on visual detection when guarding a PM in a cyber world. Is full of cyborgs with great resistance to bullets yet ends up using nothing than bullets to stop a cyborg. If I were the PM I'd fire them on the spot since the above would tell me that they are either too incompetent or the assassin's accomplices...
@@BurntPlaydoh I've always wondered. Did Gouda really controlling Kuze here with the Individual 11 Virus and he only managed to break free from it around Episode 12 when he met with the core members of the terrorist group? Or the Virus couldn't control Kuze in the first place (even though he was a "virgin", he still had a strong ghost, like a walking Stand Alone Complex, just like The Major or Aoi/The Laughing Man) and the only reason he obeyed it's orders is because he thought that he might find out who's behind it later? Anyway, I'm kinda dissappointed that we didn't see how Kuze got injected with the Virus.
Real life motion sensors are only practical in areas where there is no preexisting movement, I.E. with nobody being present. And what the heck is "mini radar"? Anyways, Security was the Major and co., and you literally just saw them do their job and fill the assailant full of holes.
Security was also set up in a Buddhist temple that likely didn't allow electronics to be installed, if the candle-powered lighting is anything to go by. Pretty sure they noted this setup to be a security nightmare before the visit. Also, most cyborgs' bullet resistance isn't as good as that; his body is noticed as being high-spec even if it is out of date, as I recall. And on top of that, their actual job was "protect the PM," which they did.
Adding to my predecessor, there is a scene before that in the episode of them complaining how dangerous and irresponsible is for the PM to just go and pray without anyone inside, no tech allowed in the temple as was requested by her (and probably the rules of the temple i guess) with her being fully aware that there were death threats, she only allowed Major to have her eyes. GitS script is very tightly written, there is very little things that you can actually complain about in this show that are not logical. Everything with this scene make sense story-wise and with it's in-universe logic.
two thoughts: 1) he's not carrying much, and in this universe we've seen the major and the tachikomas do a fair bit of acrobatics themselves. 2) perhaps more surprising is that the roof can take that kind of force. I was curious so I ran a quick calculation: assumptions: 250kg, 45˚, 9.81 gravity, 500m jump. I got an acceleration of 70m/sec, resulting in 17,500 newtons = 3,934.1565 pounds force. conclusion... strong roof :P
And from what I've found out, the name/word "Kuze" means "Old Story" in Japanese. So his full name, "Hideo Kuze" means "Hero Old Story". Fits him perfectly, since he was a "Hero" to the refugees and he's sharing an "Old Story" (a sad but sweet story) with Motoko. By the way, in the 2017 novel (GitS: Five New Short Stories) it was revealed that his real surname was "Hisaragi". But no matter how hard I tried, Google didn't reveal the meaning of this name to me. My search was always forced to "Kisaragi".
@ButterfingerBB Don't know this particular piece, but track #14 on the CD (Yoko Kanno - GITS SAC Unofficial Collection 1) has this music 40 seconds into the song, but at a slower tempo. I just increased the tempo by 115% to get pretty much the same music.
I learned one thing today seeing this every once in a while when cops face a total badass they suck at keeping track of them but it’s fine. I wonder what would’ve happened if Kuze was using a new type rather than his old one
i'd say your estimate of weight is not over the top, if anything i'd say it's a little under. I do also recall somewhere that someone in section 9 weighed in at 550lbs and i know it's not batou. So for all intents and purposes i would assume everyone else whose a full cyborg have heavy duty but relatively light weight, highspeed combat type bodies. Kuze's body was front line mountain infantry and the story his he has not changed or even really fixed his body since then.
wow...Major and Batou were actually shooting in one another's direction when Hideo was between them...Guess they were confident of their shooting skills.
Makes sense since in this universe cyborgs can basically just download the abilities needed to be absolute crackshots and the two of them are so experienced that they can make use of these abilities the absolute fullest. Just to give an idea: there is a scene in the series where Saito, one of the greatest snipers in the world, simulates a fire fight with the Major and he is fully confident that she could shoot his bullet out of the air at medium range and put a second one in his head before he could react. It doesn't end up happening, but the fact that one of the best marksmen in the series legitimately thinks it would be possible, is pretty good indication that it is.
hehe thanks. one more point: an acceleration of 70m/sec is around 7g's thats the upper end of what fighter pilots are capable of for short time spans. so that adds to the.. um... believability. :D the 250kg might be a tad extreme [~550 lb]; but i chose it because i recall seeing that number listed as someones weight in the show. it was a brief glimpse of someones dossier... might be the majors lol, but i don't really recall
i noticed that too! Batou just comes storming in with guns blazing even though the Major is in direct firing line. Whoever that other person was, besides Kuze, was also in his line of fire. And then the major just reloads and starts shooting again as well lol. All that was missing was a tachikoma opening up on them with its arm machine gun from above
unfortunately the uploader has since made the videos private. (they were ua-cam.com/video/_udJqJy5NsU/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/7DqWR4yL2dY/v-deo.html I think) The guy who isolated them in the first place goes by the name "kacper" but his blog is also gone (kacpy.blogsome.com if you want to know).
Remember that Hideo Kuze is an extremely good hacker so he can probably hack the vision of other peoples eyes but he can not perhaps hack the Major and uses camouflage just for her.
*squish* :c I always wondered how they would power themselves. When you think about it, its quite amazing that these funny things called humans are able to convert food into all the complexities of our society... very efficient. But on the other hand its not so simple to power a sports car within the dimensions of the human body. evangelion addressed this with the tethers and the amazing 5:00 minute battery life :p
@ButterfingerBB did you ever find out what song it is? I downloaded season 1 and 2, both came with the soundtracks but I don't recall hearing this music. Any thoughts?
hmm ya Kuze can regenerate too, i always thought that would be quite useful... but more for gorillas then government troops. but it works well in the story, he can be injured, but not need a hospital. On a different note, it would be funny to see a society reinforce almost everything because people now weigh 500+... dont let them roll on top of you in bed :S cheers!
I was totally hyped as a kid seeing this, but after rewatching I gotta admit... this borders on the fantastical, even with all the technology... we saw earlier that damaged units (i.e. tachikomas, the major herself or the armored suits) most probably can not keep up the thermooptic camou, yet kuze just switches it on again after getting hammered by bullets and bursting through a roof. Second: His body could stand a lot of bullets. granted, just 9mm pistol ammo and this probably won't do much (I imagine if the major and batou would shoot each other it would likely look the same, so they don't do much damage to their cyberbodies), but consdiering this, why didn't they bring a more high-caliber, cyborg piercing weapon around? Even with cybernetics, crashing through a roof, that doesn't look too shabby if it can support 3 full tachikomas and batou as a cyborg (what may he weigh... b etween 200-300 kg? and each of the Tachikomas probably around a tonne?) and leaping that ridiculous distance can't be justified with "but he has a cyber body" alone. There are certain natural laws bodies of mass have to adhere to, you know? Still a great Anime, but watching it again after all those years there certainly ARE a lot of situations where you think twice and be like "Why TF did they do it THAT way" or "That certainly wouldn't be possible", which is harder to dismiss if the rest of the anime is fairly life-like and centered in our current reality projected some 20 years into the future. I also always wondered that in the very first movie with majors roof jump that was just supported by thin strings and even if that was some carbonnanofiber stuff or whatever, it either would probably have ripped her body apart or the fall would have probably crashed her body or at least gave her brain in the shell a concussion. Also the deliberate slow movement during the execution and the police officers spotting her when she activates her optic camoouflage is against the laws of physics... she would just zip by and nobody would have gotten a good lock at her face. Also the shots she fired should have come from different angles when she did shoot during her free fall. Artistic merit and all, but it wasn't realistic in the slightest.
I always come back to this because I wouldn't have found this anime if hadn't randomly watched this one time at 2am on adult swim when I was 12
I saw it as a teen in high school. Yeah it is a very good show.
Same, I forgot about it in favor of the shone but then one day, I remembered this and the music.
At least once every month, I always come back here to rewatch this scene, along with the one, where Batou and Kuze fight!
Amazing! Truly the peak of GitS Anime!
I really wish Kuze would've got his own spin-off series!
He's such a cool (I especially like the "Cyborg Ronin Vibe" he gaves), interesting and well designed character, but unfortunately he's also very underrated (at least the way I see it), even among the GitS Fanbase.
A series about him, during his wandering years (2024 - 2032) would've given us so much S.A.C Lore and world building!
Imo, it definitely would've been a much better series than Arise and 2045/Netflix.
Kuze kind of did get a spin-off, although its not stated boldly. They give you one single hint at the end of one of the movies
クゼを見失ったときのタチコマの声が可愛い。
God I love this anime series. I hope they make a 3rd gig.
I guess you can consider Stand alone complex 2045 the 3rd gig, even though the art style isn't as good.
@@malevolenceXXXensues you mean the new serie on netflix? lol dont call that ghost in the shell its pure garbage 3dcgi shit
@@NatsuDragionFairyTail Yeah. Fuck that shit. Like, it's not Berserk CGI bad, but ugh, hell no.
What's worse is they're still running with fucking young-Mokoto. We want adult Mokoto. Not this loli-weeboo shit.
Phil Dog Agreed
@@PhilipPetrunak i agree young motoko feels wack as fuck gits is suposed to be mature and dark and now i feel lime disney made this fucking season lmao
At 0:33, what's the point of invisibility if your sword isn't invisible.
Symbolism; the whole plan wasn't actually meant to succeed, just send a message.
It would make your attacks a lot harder to read.
Also, a sword is much harder to notice than a sword+person. If someday the military would develop a cloaking system that makes soldiers invisble except their guns, that would still be an extremly effective thing and would be better than not having this tech at all
Not to forget the possibility that the sword was acquired within the facility.
hmm, this is the first time it's bothered me, but ahs anyone else noticed that Kuze makes like a 500-600 meter leap in distance into the forest? his mountain infantry unit got outfitted with some damn good legs.
cyber legs bro
more than just bodily capacity he has a strong ideological motivation
He mentioned about a particular cyber special body he had which gives him an advantage
I would assume then that his body is several generations out dated and thus heavier. Mountain terrain is also be tough on equiment and bodies so as Mountain Infantry, especially for his deployment (in northern china if i recall in snowy mountains) His body should be heavy duty intended for battering against boulders and insulated against extreme cold and or heat.
Security:
Monitors everything
Fails to spot a floating katana
Has nothing like mini radar, motion sensors etc relies solely on visual detection when guarding a PM in a cyber world.
Is full of cyborgs with great resistance to bullets yet ends up using nothing than bullets to stop a cyborg.
If I were the PM I'd fire them on the spot since the above would tell me that they are either too incompetent or the assassin's accomplices...
@@BurntPlaydoh
I've always wondered.
Did Gouda really controlling Kuze here with the Individual 11 Virus and he only managed to break free from it around Episode 12 when he met with the core members of the terrorist group?
Or the Virus couldn't control Kuze in the first place (even though he was a "virgin", he still had a strong ghost, like a walking Stand Alone Complex, just like The Major or Aoi/The Laughing Man) and the only reason he obeyed it's orders is because he thought that he might find out who's behind it later?
Anyway, I'm kinda dissappointed that we didn't see how Kuze got injected with the Virus.
Real life motion sensors are only practical in areas where there is no preexisting movement, I.E. with nobody being present.
And what the heck is "mini radar"?
Anyways, Security was the Major and co., and you literally just saw them do their job and fill the assailant full of holes.
Security was also set up in a Buddhist temple that likely didn't allow electronics to be installed, if the candle-powered lighting is anything to go by. Pretty sure they noted this setup to be a security nightmare before the visit. Also, most cyborgs' bullet resistance isn't as good as that; his body is noticed as being high-spec even if it is out of date, as I recall. And on top of that, their actual job was "protect the PM," which they did.
Adding to my predecessor, there is a scene before that in the episode of them complaining how dangerous and irresponsible is for the PM to just go and pray without anyone inside, no tech allowed in the temple as was requested by her (and probably the rules of the temple i guess) with her being fully aware that there were death threats, she only allowed Major to have her eyes. GitS script is very tightly written, there is very little things that you can actually complain about in this show that are not logical. Everything with this scene make sense story-wise and with it's in-universe logic.
LoL
クゼを挟んでいるとはいえ両サイドから向かい合って発砲するなんて射撃制御システムを過信しすぎぃ
ジャンプして天井突き破ったクゼの印象が強すぎるけど、後を追ったバトーさんも何事もないかのようにジャンプして屋根にたどり着いてるんだよなぁ
I miss this prime minister. She had her flaws, but she was still my favorite
This was the first episode I saw of the series and it got me into it
i love this scene !
The showdown of former best friends
Lovers*
クゼさんだけドラゴンボールしてんだよなぁ…
nice math. thats a ridiculously strong roof. architect deserves to be proud of his work.
two thoughts: 1) he's not carrying much, and in this universe we've seen the major and the tachikomas do a fair bit of acrobatics themselves. 2) perhaps more surprising is that the roof can take that kind of force. I was curious so I ran a quick calculation: assumptions: 250kg, 45˚, 9.81 gravity, 500m jump. I got an acceleration of 70m/sec, resulting in 17,500 newtons = 3,934.1565 pounds force. conclusion... strong roof :P
TheStateOfEarth this comment is so extra I love it
Chile get out more 🤷♂️🤣
Quality Japanese material
It helps if your body is denser than wood and you have little to no actual organics left in you
My favorite Antagonist in GITS
His name “Hideo” is written as “英雄” in kanji.
And this word means “Hero” in Japanese.
And from what I've found out, the name/word "Kuze" means "Old Story" in Japanese.
So his full name, "Hideo Kuze" means "Hero Old Story".
Fits him perfectly, since he was a "Hero" to the refugees and he's sharing an "Old Story" (a sad but sweet story) with Motoko.
By the way, in the 2017 novel (GitS: Five New Short Stories) it was revealed that his real surname was "Hisaragi".
But no matter how hard I tried, Google didn't reveal the meaning of this name to me. My search was always forced to "Kisaragi".
@ButterfingerBB Don't know this particular piece, but track #14 on the CD (Yoko Kanno - GITS SAC Unofficial Collection 1) has this music 40 seconds into the song, but at a slower tempo. I just increased the tempo by 115% to get pretty much the same music.
I learned one thing today seeing this every once in a while when cops face a total badass they suck at keeping track of them but it’s fine. I wonder what would’ve happened if Kuze was using a new type rather than his old one
upありがとう、かっこいいね
正義は我にあり。
（seigi wa wareni ari ）
消去！
（shoukyo!）
さあ言ってみよう
i'd say your estimate of weight is not over the top, if anything i'd say it's a little under. I do also recall somewhere that someone in section 9 weighed in at 550lbs and i know it's not batou. So for all intents and purposes i would assume everyone else whose a full cyborg have heavy duty but relatively light weight, highspeed combat type bodies. Kuze's body was front line mountain infantry and the story his he has not changed or even really fixed his body since then.
ここのbgmどこのサウンドトラックにも入って入ってないんだよな
omg raiden from metal gear
Thank you so much. The perfect scene.
1:00
Channeling Dio
They should bring back kuze in the future
whats the music played during this sequence
Some unreleased ost probably
wow...Major and Batou were actually shooting in one another's direction when Hideo was between them...Guess they were confident of their shooting skills.
Makes sense since in this universe cyborgs can basically just download the abilities needed to be absolute crackshots and the two of them are so experienced that they can make use of these abilities the absolute fullest.
Just to give an idea: there is a scene in the series where Saito, one of the greatest snipers in the world, simulates a fire fight with the Major and he is fully confident that she could shoot his bullet out of the air at medium range and put a second one in his head before he could react. It doesn't end up happening, but the fact that one of the best marksmen in the series legitimately thinks it would be possible, is pretty good indication that it is.
Saying justice is on my side
hehe thanks. one more point: an acceleration of 70m/sec is around 7g's thats the upper end of what fighter pilots are capable of for short time spans. so that adds to the.. um... believability. :D the 250kg might be a tad extreme [~550 lb]; but i chose it because i recall seeing that number listed as someones weight in the show. it was a brief glimpse of someones dossier... might be the majors lol, but i don't really recall
1:47 that bot made cute noises
Kuze for president.
Batou and major were in cross fire position lol..
i noticed that too! Batou just comes storming in with guns blazing even though the Major is in direct firing line. Whoever that other person was, besides Kuze, was also in his line of fire.
And then the major just reloads and starts shooting again as well lol. All that was missing was a tachikoma opening up on them with its arm machine gun from above
prolly had upgrades since then
he didn't want to kill her, just scare. So, katana will alerting bodyguards and preventing him from fatal actions.
Makes you wonder why that cyborg body model isn't more popular. Tanks bullets and jumps through roofs? Motoko needs an upgrade...er downgrade?
Damn bruh I kinda feel like I’m watching Big Boss aka real snake old but still badass as fuck
it'll give him enough time to get close to her in a dark room
I want this fucking music.
God yeah, I've been searching for it to no avail. I seriously would buy if I knew where I could get a hold of it.
Same... :(
2nd Gig, episode 5.
Is the music that plays when they fighting kuze from the bourne series?
He can jump like the hulk
@grimmjowed Yeah, I saw that. Excellent movie sequel to the TV show, but I'm talking about them making a whole new season.
did kuze ever jump like that again? or was that like phantom menace jedi speed power thats never used again even if it would be handy? XD
He never had the opportunity or need. He basically jumped off the building where he and the other Individual Eleven committed seppuku.
Dear Gods!
Could someone please let me know the name of this music score
Sadly, these were some of the tracks that never got released.
Someone was kind enough isolate them and upload them to youtube, though.
@@bansho7076 then tell where it is please
unfortunately the uploader has since made the videos private.
(they were ua-cam.com/video/_udJqJy5NsU/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/7DqWR4yL2dY/v-deo.html I think)
The guy who isolated them in the first place goes by the name "kacper" but his blog is also gone (kacpy.blogsome.com if you want to know).
Too answer your question he's
What episode is this? I've been looking for it everywhere.
@0:42 "Justice is on my side"
is Kuze similar to Emiya Kiritsugu now?
what purpose does thermopotical camouflage serve when the katana he holds in his hand is not as well encompassed by the effect?
Remember that Hideo Kuze is an extremely good hacker so he can probably hack the vision of other peoples eyes but he can not perhaps hack the Major and uses camouflage just for her.
@Whompa02 I've been wanting to know the same thing for YEARS now
*squish* :c I always wondered how they would power themselves. When you think about it, its quite amazing that these funny things called humans are able to convert food into all the complexities of our society... very efficient. But on the other hand its not so simple to power a sports car within the dimensions of the human body. evangelion addressed this with the tethers and the amazing 5:00 minute battery life :p
流石はPKF仕様
Question is Batou using larg caliber rounds then Major Kusanagi? They sound larger then the Seburo M5 rounds.
Yes. Batou is using a different pistol customised to fire 45 cal rounds.
Whats the music?
@ButterfingerBB did you ever find out what song it is? I downloaded season 1 and 2, both came with the soundtracks but I don't recall hearing this music. Any thoughts?
I just noticed they both were shooting at Kuze in a crossfire could have hit each other
Crossfire is affordable than a mission failure.
Im pretty aure Motoko and Batou are better shots than that.
Wouldn't that Mateba be handy against that PKF body?
hmm ya Kuze can regenerate too, i always thought that would be quite useful... but more for gorillas then government troops. but it works well in the story, he can be injured, but not need a hospital. On a different note, it would be funny to see a society reinforce almost everything because people now weigh 500+... dont let them roll on top of you in bed :S
cheers!
well they will learn to take their p90 with them always :P
How could they fucking fluked it?
this is the closest we'll get
ua-cam.com/video/_udJqJy5NsU/v-deo.html#t=1237
+5piles Any idea about the fast version? Have been searching like hell and still havent found it anywhere :c
Hideo Kuze ftw
min 1:48 😅
Remember to bring .338 next time
I was totally hyped as a kid seeing this, but after rewatching I gotta admit... this borders on the fantastical, even with all the technology... we saw earlier that damaged units (i.e. tachikomas, the major herself or the armored suits) most probably can not keep up the thermooptic camou, yet kuze just switches it on again after getting hammered by bullets and bursting through a roof. Second: His body could stand a lot of bullets. granted, just 9mm pistol ammo and this probably won't do much (I imagine if the major and batou would shoot each other it would likely look the same, so they don't do much damage to their cyberbodies), but consdiering this, why didn't they bring a more high-caliber, cyborg piercing weapon around? Even with cybernetics, crashing through a roof, that doesn't look too shabby if it can support 3 full tachikomas and batou as a cyborg (what may he weigh... b etween 200-300 kg? and each of the Tachikomas probably around a tonne?) and leaping that ridiculous distance can't be justified with "but he has a cyber body" alone. There are certain natural laws bodies of mass have to adhere to, you know? Still a great Anime, but watching it again after all those years there certainly ARE a lot of situations where you think twice and be like "Why TF did they do it THAT way" or "That certainly wouldn't be possible", which is harder to dismiss if the rest of the anime is fairly life-like and centered in our current reality projected some 20 years into the future. I also always wondered that in the very first movie with majors roof jump that was just supported by thin strings and even if that was some carbonnanofiber stuff or whatever, it either would probably have ripped her body apart or the fall would have probably crashed her body or at least gave her brain in the shell a concussion. Also the deliberate slow movement during the execution and the police officers spotting her when she activates her optic camoouflage is against the laws of physics... she would just zip by and nobody would have gotten a good lock at her face. Also the shots she fired should have come from different angles when she did shoot during her free fall. Artistic merit and all, but it wasn't realistic in the slightest.
I liked this scene better in japanese. sometimes the dub doesn't capture as much emotion or nuance than the japanese
Is this kuze from Yakuza?
I want the song too , actually he has no offical name . But look in youtube for "Ghost in the shell assasination attempt"
Still amazing
What year was this anime released?
He can jump like hulk