Kind of an idea of how the American People are going to get information out of the lawless and cruel federal employees who have terrorized us and thrown our rights out the window.
@@jjbarea5810 Joel was the one protecting his group, so of course he was gonna look worse than the rest. Besides, he has been on both sides, he has done so much in those 20 years your average survivor hasn’t, making him have to really go distances other survivors haven’t, no matter how nasty to survive, that and his group supposedly dying out, he became practically insane until Tess showed up and kinda fixed him, well, as fixed as he could have been.
@@jjbarea5810 The situations he put himself in didn’t give him any favors, it’s not like he wanted to be this ruthless killer, but it’s his fault for putting himself in situations that made him, even forced him as such, he was probably as nasty as Negan honestly, maybe lacking the charisma but his little smile when torturing those people showed he really does enjoy a bit the brutality he causes in the moment when it’s for protecting someone, like Negan, even if it would later come to haunt him. His inner demon showed a little of itself there, which is why I wanna see what he did in those damn 20 years, where we see his inner demon fully and in a longer timeframe without Ellie being the cause of it, *cough cough* Hospital *cough cough*
It's hinted that he and Tommy did some very bad things to survive like torture and kill innocent people to rob them. So Tommy hated it and left him. Then Joel went down a dark path until he meets Tess and he tried to go straight earning an honest living but the 20 years of survival after the outbreak has hardened him into serious bad assery. The fight to save Ellie has turned him back to beast mode.
@@jonfreeman9682 he wasn't straight with Tess lol. He was a smuggler and likely killed people in that job too. He's only been a bit more restrained since being with Ellie.
@@jonfreeman9682 Its strange how we can see all the context even in the game. I assune joel possibly killed kids not with intent But stole from people who ended up straving
It’s the same delivery as when he said “You’d just come after her” to Marlene. When Joel has to hurt people to protect Ellie he disassociates. It’s the only way he can allow himself to be so ruthless. It shows that he doesn’t want to be violent, but absolutely will when it comes to Ellie.
@@mrstickanimator527 the show IS made for the people who didn’t play the game. craig said he wanted to tell this story to people who would never in their life pick up a controller. obviously this doesn’t mean game fans can’t like and criticize it, but it was intended to just introduce the story to a larger audience 🤷♀️ i think they did that quite successfully
@@irma7220that's a fact I actually just bought the game and so far I like both and can appreciate the differences. You can't make a TV show like a video and vice versa
I agree! I feel like some of extras in the show actually did voice acting for the game. The dad on the side of the road with his family at the beginning of the show.. he definitely did voices for the extras in the game.
Just picked up on that, and I think this is a great example of why I don’t like the show. Pedro’s interpretation of Joel is just not the amazing character from the game. Joel should get absolutely no pleasure whatsoever out of tormenting people, he only does it out of survival or in this case desperation. He’s not a good person by any means, but he was never sadistic.
He's been waiting 20 years for a chance to save his daughter and now he's got that chance with Ellie. The demon that's inside of him, that did all of the horrible things, now has a righteous cause ... and the full fury was unleashed. Amazing.
@Robert Curtis Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never brutalized any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd. I get it’s in character for Batman to not torture or kill but the fact that we didn’t see him severely injure/strike fear into Joker and the men that aided him into torturing Jason Todd disgusts me. Hell even if Jason was “dead” Arkham Batman didn’t even bother. Joel Miller can teach Arkham Batman a thing or two about being a real man.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 It's well established by decades of research that outside of fiction torture isn't a good method of getting reliable information. It would be more widely used if it was. The point of torture is to terrorise, not establish truth. (As an aside, "lie detectors" don't work either, that's why they aren't used outside of talk shows).
This is not exactly righteous. The action had righteous motivations, but itself is not. They were defenseless and killing them would do nothing for Joel.
@@ryanbrets7695 No, good acting. They're pathetic because they're used to being the ones with power. They're just incompetent bullies, which is why someone like Joel makes short work of them. So the actor sounding pleading and desperate and childish is totally appropriate.
@@holliswilliams8426 they've changed a lot of things from the game, including some dialogues... But even if it was sprite-identical it would've been cool to see The Last of Us finally in live-action
Gotta love how they kept the interrogation scene from the game here in the show. Even Pedro’s delivery of “That’s ok. I believed him.” demonstrates how well he captured Joel’s brutal nature when it’s let out
there’s something more chilling and edgy-comic book/game about Troy’s enraged but collected “…Where?”, but something a lot more grounded about Pedro’s “WHAT TOWN?”
Troy's Joel had silent rage, he came across as cold and calculating whereas Pedro's Joel in this scene comes across as a bit more unstable and psychotic.
@@jonfreeman9682 - Honestly, I think Liam Neeson would've been perfect for the role of Joel. Obviously he's very much an action type actor, the Taken trilogy and other films like it being proof of that fact, and if you ever watched Seraphim Falls, in which he starred alongside Pierce Bronson, Neeson can definitely pull off a southern accent very well.
If they did it would made there deaths much more satisfying as it would have confirmed that they were aware of Davids Pedophile nature, like there game counterparts were.
When he stabbed the dude in the leg and he screamed Jesus, hearing Joel say "Oh no no no, he can't help you, keep your focus right here." that is downright terrifying.
This was by far the best episode. The last few episodes the world didn’t feel dangerous and it almost felt like there was no conflict. This episode reminded me how great this story is.
@@cronex1828 Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never brutalized any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd. I get it’s in character for Batman to not torture or kill but the fact that we didn’t see him severely injure/strike fear into Joker and the men that aided him into torturing Jason Todd disgusts me. Hell even if Jason was “dead” Arkham Batman didn’t even bother. Joel Miller can teach Arkham Batman a thing or two about being a real man.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 tbh even if batman would've tortured people joker probably would've liked it more, driving batman to that point until he starts breaking his rules
I actually kinda laughed at that line because in the game the guy he interrogates just says “the town” and then marks it on the map, but in the show Joel screams at him demanding the name because “the town” is the most vague answer he could’ve given haha
I am so obsessed with this scene I’ve watched it to death, just seeing Joel’s commitment to avenging the guys who kidnapped Ellie is profound and so admirable; Pedro Pascal did this scene so well
@@FreeHotDogFrenzy Exactly. Honestly I think TWD is more bad assery than TLOU. Remember the church scene when Rick faces Hannibal the cannibal and says but you'll do this to anyone... besides I made you a promise. He machetes the guy and blood flies all over the place and his face is soaked in blood. Then Gabriel the priest says this is my church the house of the Lord. Maggie says nope it's just 4 walls and a roof. One thing about TWD is they have great one liners. LoL
Like any zombie show you wonder if it’s the infected or the people that are a threat, then you finish the show just to realize joel was the threat the whole time
I feel Pedro really outdid himself in this scene, the yelling in where he says, "WHAT TOWN?!" scared the hell out of me. I'm sure Troy Baker was quite proud with what Pedro put into the role. Hell, he's probably good, if not as good as Troy himself, maybe some things were done better with Pedro's version. Congrats to everyone's work on the show!
Once after being stabbed, he walked three miles through the snow and interrogated two cultists - using only a knife and a lead pipe to lead him to the cure for mankind He was fed up with the bullshit
The fact that Joel had a Knife and decided to beat that guy to Death with a Pipe is downright horrific. Like there are easier ways to kill someone but Joel had no reason to do it
I remember watching this scene in the videogame and this was the moment I thought The Last Of Us would make such a good TV series. I'm so glad they adapted this scene! Nailed it!
@Paopu Boi Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never tortured any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd
The show captures a lot of Joel's defining character traits really well, but the one thing it cant capture is just the sheer volume of brutal violence he performs in the game. Whereas this scene is surprising to new viewers, people who played the game just know what he can do when pushed.
I mean, that’s a game thing. Joel kills 20 people every other day because the game has to have action. It’s the same thing with Nathan Drake, he constantly kills hundreds of people yet is never characterized as the stone cold mass murderer he acts as when you take the controller. The narrative and the gameplay in cases like these are often disconnected. For the show to be actually impactful and not have awful pacing issues, Joel can’t do half the killing he does in game.
@Érick he doesn't even have to kill, they should've atleast jad him sneak around a tunnel of infected and then kill ZERO then pop out the other side and gets tear gassed and caught. It's not violent at all. I'm someone who understands the story isn't about killing they walked there easier than anyone who goes a block to get cigs in the hood
@@Erick-tv8oq still wished we had more iconic action scenes from the game. Neil Duck-man justifies it by saying *"you're not playing it you're watching it"* well yeah, doesn't mean it has to be an entire 1 hour long episode of emotional moments and one minute of zombies/action scenes, it's a post-apocalyptic survival story after all, look at TWD for example; it had great emotional moments between characters but at the same time great action scenes involving tons of walkers and shooutous against rival groups.
Game-Joel is basically a superhero and TLOU1 is just far-fetched fantasy as a result. The story beats are strong but Joel & Ellie would have died a 100 times over in the game world. They've deliberately tried to go down a more 'realistic' path for the show and I think it works really well. The moments of brutality are far more shocking as a result.
So glad they kept this scene in, my absolute favourite from the game, when they foreshadowed it earlier in the season I thought it was just a little tribute and it meant they would cut this like they did many other scenes. I was like a child on Christmas morning when I realised my favourite scene was unfolding before my very eyes. A very pleasant surprise.
fr, literally anyone that was in his way of ellie wasn’t stopping him at all, say for example if abby held ellie hostage rather than joel, joel would’ve literally gone crazy to find her and would’ve killed everyone
This is why you don’t mess with papa and his precious child. During this interrogation Joel was papa bear wanting with all his heart to find his cub and get her back to him safe and in one piece. He was willing to kill anyone who hurts his baby just to find her. Papa bear will do anything necessary to protect the ones he loves most
We'll technically they never laid a finger on Ellie, David and James did, these are just two members of a entire town of men, women and children who've succumbed to cannibalism. Though there still Davids men so I guess that makes them guilty by association.
I wish Joel was a lot more brutal and aggressive throughout the season. It's one of the many highly praised aspects of his character from the games. I believe the writer's might have toned him down a little.
This is the scene where you know the writers are serious about this adaptation. A lesser writer would have had Joel feel conflicted about torturing these guys and struggle with the morality of it, because that's how the audience would think. It's how a person who hasn't been living in the apocalypse for decades would think. But Joel has been through this rodeo too many times to be squeamish about a little blood and gore, and the writers aren't afraid to show that he's unfazed by it.
@Kira1Lawliet Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never tortured any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Batman has always been problematic for his "no kill" rule. It's always been stupid. It's an example of selfish self-righteousness, where people refuse to act in the best interest of the greater good (i.e., by killing the Joker rather than letting him just go to prison and get out and continue his cycle of mayhem) in the name of some virtue that makes themselves feel more morally upstanding. It's a cowardly and solipsistic way of thinking both in fiction and in real life. A truly good person would do bad things and be willing to stain their own hands if it meant defending the innocent or protecting people.
@@Kira1Lawliet I get it’s in character for Batman to not torture or kill but the fact that we didn’t even see him severely injure/strike fear into Joker and the men that aided him into torturing Jason Todd disgusts me. Hell even if Jason was “dead” Arkham Batman didn’t even bother. Joel Miller can teach Arkham Batman a thing or two about being a real man.
@@holliswilliams8426 because he’s dark and gritty and “human” even tho he is peak and supposedly better than Superman and lets his villains get away for “good storytelling”
I just love the way they toned down the violence from Joel because this moment hits way harder than in the game! Violence has consequences here, great build up
Except Negan excuted one of his goons for trying to rape a woman, Joel only tortured these two for information and killed them out if fear that they may come after him alhad he chosen to spare them.
This is the most memorable and terrifying scene of the game show for me. It shows how Joel is ashamed of what he did to survive, but you can also see the smugness. He may not like it, but he's damn good at it, and he'll use whatever means necessary to save Ellie.
@Peter Flagle Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never tortured any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd
Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never brutalized any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd. I get it’s in character for Batman to not torture or kill but the fact that we didn’t see him severely injure/strike fear into Joker and the men that aided him into torturing Jason Todd disgusts me. Hell even if Jason was “dead” Arkham Batman didn’t even bother. Joel Miller can teach Arkham Batman a thing or two about being a real man.
I love that we can see some bits of tiredness and the effect of the stabbing on him like how he slightly falls over and uses the couch to support himself while he's in this full scary beast mode. The way Pedro balanced it out was amazing to see.
Joel became something of a fearsome monster after his daughter died. He was not someone you wanted to cross in the post-apocalyptic world - but over time his spirit and body alike began to break down, weakening him... Until he met Ellie. Her company healed his traumatized soul, reigniting the drive within him to keep going. This is evidenced both from the scene above and how he destroys an entire Firefly unit all by himself.
I love the call back to the game when he uses the knife as a shiv to back stab the guy in the neck, even the way his friend found him is the same way the game enemies do it lol
Thats how I felt about the whole show! Hate to be a buzzkill but it was always like “yeah thats cool…but in the game-“ those performances were unbeatable lol
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This was really nice I enjoyed it.
Kind of an idea of how the American People are going to get information out of the lawless and cruel federal employees who have terrorized us and thrown our rights out the window.
Actually, turns out, that was an awful reaction.
NO TNX
@@trynoocalop5841Don't watch it, I cringed hard!
“What town” Joel asked calmly
And reasonably
@@HaydrogenBomb Joel is a calm and reasonable person.
@@cheesybreadweas6813 when the moment calls for it
@@Erin-bc8ic I believe so
It's a reference to God of war Ragnarok when kratos is talking to Thor
Okay it's reference to both amazing franchises can we agree?
"It's okay... I believe him." was my favorite line.
it's from the game
In the game it was chilling. Here, kind lame in comparison. I don't think Pascal delivered it nearly as well.
@@vthings001 i liked it
@@vthings001Pedro’s delivery is so flat when he’s acting out Joel’s most badass moments.
The game better
2 shots of penicillin and that man went full on beast mode 💀💀
Daddy rage
L3 + R3
Logan 2017
“Here Joel I hope this helps”
“Ellie no wait that’s the Percs”
Joel 2 minutes later: 👺🔪
We get a nice glimpse of what Joel did everyday for 25 years to survive. The thing he’s ashamed of the most is what he knows how to do best.
"I'm the best of what I do, but what I do isn't nice"-Wolverine
Technically 20 years, and if his reputation is to be translated fully, what he did was much worse.
@@baron6588 what I don’t like is how they make Joel the biggest devil of them all when everyone else is just as bad or worse
@@jjbarea5810 Joel was the one protecting his group, so of course he was gonna look worse than the rest. Besides, he has been on both sides, he has done so much in those 20 years your average survivor hasn’t, making him have to really go distances other survivors haven’t, no matter how nasty to survive, that and his group supposedly dying out, he became practically insane until Tess showed up and kinda fixed him, well, as fixed as he could have been.
@@jjbarea5810 The situations he put himself in didn’t give him any favors, it’s not like he wanted to be this ruthless killer, but it’s his fault for putting himself in situations that made him, even forced him as such, he was probably as nasty as Negan honestly, maybe lacking the charisma but his little smile when torturing those people showed he really does enjoy a bit the brutality he causes in the moment when it’s for protecting someone, like Negan, even if it would later come to haunt him. His inner demon showed a little of itself there, which is why I wanna see what he did in those damn 20 years, where we see his inner demon fully and in a longer timeframe without Ellie being the cause of it, *cough cough* Hospital *cough cough*
The interrogation is the moment that Joel fully embraced Ellie as his daughter, he just went full psycho to find her.
It's hinted that he and Tommy did some very bad things to survive like torture and kill innocent people to rob them. So Tommy hated it and left him. Then Joel went down a dark path until he meets Tess and he tried to go straight earning an honest living but the 20 years of survival after the outbreak has hardened him into serious bad assery. The fight to save Ellie has turned him back to beast mode.
Full Gangster, “that’s alright, I believe him”
@@jonfreeman9682 I agree. He was a survivor who was starting to ease up a little bit. Ellie being in danger brought that savage out of him again.
@@jonfreeman9682 he wasn't straight with Tess lol. He was a smuggler and likely killed people in that job too. He's only been a bit more restrained since being with Ellie.
@@jonfreeman9682
Its strange how we can see all the context even in the game.
I assune joel possibly killed kids not with intent
But stole from people who ended up straving
“It’s okay, I believe him.”
The calm delivery is haunting.
It’s the same delivery as when he said “You’d just come after her” to Marlene. When Joel has to hurt people to protect Ellie he disassociates. It’s the only way he can allow himself to be so ruthless. It shows that he doesn’t want to be violent, but absolutely will when it comes to Ellie.
I feel made for the people who didn't play the game.. they think this is good...
@@mrstickanimator527 the show IS made for the people who didn’t play the game. craig said he wanted to tell this story to people who would never in their life pick up a controller. obviously this doesn’t mean game fans can’t like and criticize it, but it was intended to just introduce the story to a larger audience 🤷♀️ i think they did that quite successfully
@@irma7220that's a fact I actually just bought the game and so far I like both and can appreciate the differences. You can't make a TV show like a video and vice versa
@@mrstickanimator527I played the game and still think it’s good lol
The guy who yelled "Jesus!" Twice did some seriously good acting he sounded both raging and terrified of Joel at the same time
He's ight. Budget Extra..
I agree! I feel like some of extras in the show actually did voice acting for the game. The dad on the side of the road with his family at the beginning of the show.. he definitely did voices for the extras in the game.
...came to post something really similar!
Kinda felt bad for him at that moment! He did a lot with very little!
Yeah makes me feel almost sorry for him.
He sounded like Jesse
He was running on penicillin and rage
Mostly rage. The antibiotics kept him alive.
Zaeed Massani said it best: “Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.”
2:57 I love his little smirk after he says "you're next"
Yeah definitely got some Oberyn Martel vibes right there
@@silverstarlightproductions1292 And the "no, no" similar to what he sys to the mountain, yeahh
Pedro was too good in this role!
I SAW THAT 🤣🤣
Just picked up on that, and I think this is a great example of why I don’t like the show. Pedro’s interpretation of Joel is just not the amazing character from the game. Joel should get absolutely no pleasure whatsoever out of tormenting people, he only does it out of survival or in this case desperation. He’s not a good person by any means, but he was never sadistic.
He's been waiting 20 years for a chance to save his daughter and now he's got that chance with Ellie. The demon that's inside of him, that did all of the horrible things, now has a righteous cause ... and the full fury was unleashed. Amazing.
@Robert Curtis Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never brutalized any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd. I get it’s in character for Batman to not torture or kill but the fact that we didn’t see him severely injure/strike fear into Joker and the men that aided him into torturing Jason Todd disgusts me. Hell even if Jason was “dead” Arkham Batman didn’t even bother. Joel Miller can teach Arkham Batman a thing or two about being a real man.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 It's well established by decades of research that outside of fiction torture isn't a good method of getting reliable information. It would be more widely used if it was. The point of torture is to terrorise, not establish truth. (As an aside, "lie detectors" don't work either, that's why they aren't used outside of talk shows).
Amazingly poetic.
This is not exactly righteous. The action had righteous motivations, but itself is not. They were defenseless and killing them would do nothing for Joel.
@@absolutezippo7542 they were going to kill Joel and were siding with a literal predator that was about to harm a child he was responsible for
Almost line for line from the game. That's the Joel we all know.
Tied up guy: fk you man, he told you what you wanted..*Cries*
could have made it so much better had they changed it
I would like to see joel go against negan
@@pranav5788Better how? What would you rather have seen?
He seems to have picked up a few tricks from Tommy's military training how to do interrogation.
Those 2 guys did a great job acting as well
No they didn't. The way one of them said " Leave him alone" was hilariously bad acting.
@@ryanbrets7695 No, good acting. They're pathetic because they're used to being the ones with power. They're just incompetent bullies, which is why someone like Joel makes short work of them. So the actor sounding pleading and desperate and childish is totally appropriate.
Hubieran gritado más
@@BigMikeMcBastardI feel like pretty much anyone would be begging for their life like a baby in a situation like that.
They really did
this scene in the game was absolutely brutal and they adapted it so well. The rage from Joel, the desperation from David’s guys.
Favorite scene in the game, and it's my favorite episode by far
@@shitneyb5562 what makes it your favorite
I think it was better in the game ngl
@@dathunderman4same, Joel was scarier in the original version
“It’s okay I believe him” went harder then it should of😭
easy to write dialogue when it's already written
@@holliswilliams8426 r/woosh
@@holliswilliams8426 bro we are aware now shut up
@@holliswilliams8426 I guess you could probably act in Pedro’s place since the dialogues already written.
@@holliswilliams8426 they've changed a lot of things from the game, including some dialogues... But even if it was sprite-identical it would've been cool to see The Last of Us finally in live-action
Gotta love how they kept the interrogation scene from the game here in the show. Even Pedro’s delivery of “That’s ok. I believed him.” demonstrates how well he captured Joel’s brutal nature when it’s let out
when joel said “it’s okay, i believe him” and straight up demolished that dude, my mom said “geez… what the hell” 😂
Is her surname also Pascal? Cos if it is then it's a cool mini coincidence. 😄
Lmao when my mom saw that she laughed
she also said thee same when i showed her my 3 inch defeator
@@lazyguy4825shut up bro
there’s something more chilling and edgy-comic book/game about Troy’s enraged but collected “…Where?”, but something a lot more grounded about Pedro’s “WHAT TOWN?”
Troy's Joel had silent rage, he came across as cold and calculating whereas Pedro's Joel in this scene comes across as a bit more unstable and psychotic.
Well the show is more animalistic. This is Joel and Ellie in beast mode. Motion capture for game lost some of the pure rage.
Troy Baker's Joel was very reminiscent of Liam Neeson's Bryan Mills from Taken.
"I need you to be focused!"
@@thecowboy9698 And like Neeson he also stabs him in the leg then says it won't save you.
@@jonfreeman9682 - Honestly, I think Liam Neeson would've been perfect for the role of Joel. Obviously he's very much an action type actor, the Taken trilogy and other films like it being proof of that fact, and if you ever watched Seraphim Falls, in which he starred alongside Pierce Bronson, Neeson can definitely pull off a southern accent very well.
i havent played the game, but pascal's facial expressions everytime someone says something stupid to him is absolutely phenomenal.
Yep, Pedro's reaction shots are the best hahaha.
I'm just glad they didn't include the "David's newest pet" line. They made sure that it was still as brutal as the game was without needing that line
Yeah, you don't say such bull$hit to a guy who is torturturing you for info about his potential daughter.
@@MichalBreslau Yeah
I kinda forgot that line, and I forgot that in the game they’re just okay with that XD
If they did it would made there deaths much more satisfying as it would have confirmed that they were aware of Davids Pedophile nature, like there game counterparts were.
@robertkenny1201 I mean being a cannibal already established he was a scummy weirdo lol.
I love Pedro’s delivery of “WHAT TOWN?!”
When he stabbed the dude in the leg and he screamed Jesus, hearing Joel say "Oh no no no, he can't help you, keep your focus right here." that is downright terrifying.
The tied up guy screamed "Jesus" and the guy with the knife in his leg said "Marco" which is what Joel replied with the "He can't help you"
I love the way he yells “What town”
I keep replaying it. Amazing acting
@@DKBoy12 same
This was by far the best episode. The last few episodes the world didn’t feel dangerous and it almost felt like there was no conflict. This episode reminded me how great this story is.
Nah, my favorite is still episode 3. Call me a softie 😂
My fav was ep 5. But I think this episode is equal
Joel got stabbed in episode 6
Easily the best espisode so far
I agree that this is a good episode. But pretty much every episode has an element of danger in it. Even Bill and Frank had raiders showing up.
This show fully embraces joel as an Anti-Hero and I dig it.
No it doesn’t
@@walmanthegreat yes it does
@@walmanthegreat yes it does
@@cronex1828 Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never brutalized any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd. I get it’s in character for Batman to not torture or kill but the fact that we didn’t see him severely injure/strike fear into Joker and the men that aided him into torturing Jason Todd disgusts me. Hell even if Jason was “dead” Arkham Batman didn’t even bother. Joel Miller can teach Arkham Batman a thing or two about being a real man.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 tbh even if batman would've tortured people joker probably would've liked it more, driving batman to that point until he starts breaking his rules
I dont ever wanna have somebody scream "what town" the way joel screamed it
don't kidnap people then
@@holliswilliams8426 lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣
Joel should teach a class called Interrogation 101.
He learned from Tommy black ops interrogation techniques.
Joel in this point of the game was more cynical and sociopathic. Pedro’s performance here was with pure rage and I can’t say I dislike that at all.
This is like the best scene in TLOU for me personally. The way Joel lacks mercy is what keeping him alive.
This is the best scene in every scene of anything ever
@@shitneyb5562 How so?
@@robertkenny1201 Call me biased :)
Love at 3:24 when he shouts in rage what town! That’s when we know joel is full on ready to get Ellie back as one of his own
That was brutal. This is the part where Joel accepts Ellie as his daughter, this is a papa bear being protective over his cub.
3:24 WHAT TOWN?!?!?!
I actually kinda laughed at that line because in the game the guy he interrogates just says “the town” and then marks it on the map, but in the show Joel screams at him demanding the name because “the town” is the most vague answer he could’ve given haha
I'm sat
He asked calmly
Pedro Pascal blew my mind in this scene...no wonder they're so afraid of him in the QC
I am so obsessed with this scene I’ve watched it to death, just seeing Joel’s commitment to avenging the guys who kidnapped Ellie is profound and so admirable; Pedro Pascal did this scene so well
This definately counts as one of Joel's best killing scenes!
This is Joel in beast mode. As soon as he got the answer he stabs him. Didn't even flinch. Then goes full Negan.
@@jonfreeman9682 Yes it reminds me of that scene in the Walking Dead when Negan killed Abraham and Glenn😆
@@FreeHotDogFrenzy Exactly. Honestly I think TWD is more bad assery than TLOU. Remember the church scene when Rick faces Hannibal the cannibal and says but you'll do this to anyone... besides I made you a promise. He machetes the guy and blood flies all over the place and his face is soaked in blood. Then Gabriel the priest says this is my church the house of the Lord. Maggie says nope it's just 4 walls and a roof. One thing about TWD is they have great one liners. LoL
@@jonfreeman9682 Yes that is True mate. The Last of Us is not a copy. It's just a better show from a Better Company
@Jon Freeman Last I checked Negan only stabbed on of his henchmen in the neck for trying to rape a woman, I don't recall him ever torturing anyone.
Like any zombie show you wonder if it’s the infected or the people that are a threat, then you finish the show just to realize joel was the threat the whole time
The real threat was the friends we made along the way
I dont care. Team joel
@@Cosmic_Deity Like for real, everybody still loves Joel, hahaha.
I feel Pedro really outdid himself in this scene, the yelling in where he says, "WHAT TOWN?!" scared the hell out of me. I'm sure Troy Baker was quite proud with what Pedro put into the role. Hell, he's probably good, if not as good as Troy himself, maybe some things were done better with Pedro's version. Congrats to everyone's work on the show!
0:42 1:12 although I knew what happened, I was still scared for Joel during this scene 😭
This is exactly what Mando would do if Grogu is missing 😂😂
What if I told Joel miller had that dawg in him 😮
Once after being stabbed, he walked three miles through the snow and interrogated two cultists - using only a knife and a lead pipe to lead him to the cure for mankind
He was fed up with the bullshit
Him kind of falling out of the shadows and plunging that knife into the back of that dude's neck was so freaking cool.
"He can't help you. You focus right here."
Terrified and aroused in equel measures.
The fact that Joel had a Knife and decided to beat that guy to Death with a Pipe is downright horrific. Like there are easier ways to kill someone but Joel had no reason to do it
Joel is a sadistic phycopath.
I remember watching this scene in the videogame and this was the moment I thought The Last Of Us would make such a good TV series. I'm so glad they adapted this scene! Nailed it!
@Paopu Boi Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never tortured any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd
3:23 *Pedro elevating the original dialogue like a chad!!*
I love how even when Joel is busy interrogating them on where Ellie is, he still sounds so incredulous when that guy tells him it’s a resort 😂
😂 Ikr
He’s using his Mandalorian voice, i can imagine Mando straight traumatizing people if they take Grogu again 😂
You could say he lives by his motto " I can bring you warm or I can bring in Cold"😉😉
Phenomenal work to everyone involved in this show! They are beyond killing it!
Well they just copied the game.
@@jonfreeman9682
@@jonfreeman9682 The game is their property
they race-bended Sarah, Tommy, Maria...🤮
@@EroticOnion23 racist scum
The show captures a lot of Joel's defining character traits really well, but the one thing it cant capture is just the sheer volume of brutal violence he performs in the game. Whereas this scene is surprising to new viewers, people who played the game just know what he can do when pushed.
Agreed. The show is pg compared to the game
I mean, that’s a game thing. Joel kills 20 people every other day because the game has to have action. It’s the same thing with Nathan Drake, he constantly kills hundreds of people yet is never characterized as the stone cold mass murderer he acts as when you take the controller. The narrative and the gameplay in cases like these are often disconnected. For the show to be actually impactful and not have awful pacing issues, Joel can’t do half the killing he does in game.
@Érick he doesn't even have to kill, they should've atleast jad him sneak around a tunnel of infected and then kill ZERO then pop out the other side and gets tear gassed and caught. It's not violent at all. I'm someone who understands the story isn't about killing they walked there easier than anyone who goes a block to get cigs in the hood
@@Erick-tv8oq still wished we had more iconic action scenes from the game. Neil Duck-man justifies it by saying *"you're not playing it you're watching it"* well yeah, doesn't mean it has to be an entire 1 hour long episode of emotional moments and one minute of zombies/action scenes, it's a post-apocalyptic survival story after all, look at TWD for example; it had great emotional moments between characters but at the same time great action scenes involving tons of walkers and shooutous against rival groups.
Game-Joel is basically a superhero and TLOU1 is just far-fetched fantasy as a result. The story beats are strong but Joel & Ellie would have died a 100 times over in the game world. They've deliberately tried to go down a more 'realistic' path for the show and I think it works really well. The moments of brutality are far more shocking as a result.
So glad they kept this scene in, my absolute favourite from the game, when they foreshadowed it earlier in the season I thought it was just a little tribute and it meant they would cut this like they did many other scenes. I was like a child on Christmas morning when I realised my favourite scene was unfolding before my very eyes. A very pleasant surprise.
Kratos has spartan rage
Joel has daddy rage
Frank castle has marine rage
They need to do a series for Joel’s past to see how he became the badass he is.
Agreed. We know that his daughter’s murder affected him greatly, but I’d like to see how he built up the rage and execution to what it is now
3:19 - that sound design of the knee cap\knife twisting makes me squirm hahah
Just hearing that makes my knee hurt
3:20 god, that sound effect always makes my skin crawl
This is the darkest side of Joel and it’s horrifing 😰
She isn't cargo, that might as well be his own flesh and blood. He went full-on dad rage mode for Ellie.
Yes. That became very apparent ya pleb
fr, literally anyone that was in his way of ellie wasn’t stopping him at all, say for example if abby held ellie hostage rather than joel, joel would’ve literally gone crazy to find her and would’ve killed everyone
he was pissed
This is why you don’t mess with papa and his precious child. During this interrogation Joel was papa bear wanting with all his heart to find his cub and get her back to him safe and in one piece. He was willing to kill anyone who hurts his baby just to find her. Papa bear will do anything necessary to protect the ones he loves most
We'll technically they never laid a finger on Ellie, David and James did, these are just two members of a entire town of men, women and children who've succumbed to cannibalism. Though there still Davids men so I guess that makes them guilty by association.
u write like a nonce
3:24 "WHAT TOWN?!"
I wish Joel was a lot more brutal and aggressive throughout the season. It's one of the many highly praised aspects of his character from the games. I believe the writer's might have toned him down a little.
This is the scene where you know the writers are serious about this adaptation.
A lesser writer would have had Joel feel conflicted about torturing these guys and struggle with the morality of it, because that's how the audience would think. It's how a person who hasn't been living in the apocalypse for decades would think. But Joel has been through this rodeo too many times to be squeamish about a little blood and gore, and the writers aren't afraid to show that he's unfazed by it.
@Kira1Lawliet Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never tortured any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Batman has always been problematic for his "no kill" rule. It's always been stupid. It's an example of selfish self-righteousness, where people refuse to act in the best interest of the greater good (i.e., by killing the Joker rather than letting him just go to prison and get out and continue his cycle of mayhem) in the name of some virtue that makes themselves feel more morally upstanding. It's a cowardly and solipsistic way of thinking both in fiction and in real life. A truly good person would do bad things and be willing to stain their own hands if it meant defending the innocent or protecting people.
@@Kira1Lawliet I get it’s in character for Batman to not torture or kill but the fact that we didn’t even see him severely injure/strike fear into Joker and the men that aided him into torturing Jason Todd disgusts me. Hell even if Jason was “dead” Arkham Batman didn’t even bother. Joel Miller can teach Arkham Batman a thing or two about being a real man.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 batman is a bit of a dumb character in all honesty, not sure why people are so obsessed with him
@@holliswilliams8426 because he’s dark and gritty and “human” even tho he is peak and supposedly better than Superman and lets his villains get away for “good storytelling”
Just when you think there are no more unique lines anymore along comes, "you focus right here or I'll pop your f'ing knee cap off."
I love how the background music is like the encounter music in the game
Really gives the nervy vibe
I just love the way they toned down the violence from Joel because this moment hits way harder than in the game! Violence has consequences here, great build up
I know people meme *WHAT TOWN* but he carries so much rage there it's insane
4:46 Negan stance
Except Negan excuted one of his goons for trying to rape a woman, Joel only tortured these two for information and killed them out if fear that they may come after him alhad he chosen to spare them.
"You can breathe. You can blink. You can cry. Hell. You're all gonna be doin' that."
i really want to see him saying "i dont have time for this" on the hospital
He did Gandalf. He did.
He did, and it was glorious. Joel Wick, that's all I'm going to say.
The choke action scene is literally from the game, they nailed it
This is the most memorable and terrifying scene of the game show for me. It shows how Joel is ashamed of what he did to survive, but you can also see the smugness. He may not like it, but he's damn good at it, and he'll use whatever means necessary to save Ellie.
This was the one scene I was most looking forward to for the show and man they did not disappoint.
Just Pedro's shite acting
This and the Joel/Ellie argument scene from E6 are the scenes that I can’t stop watching
@Peter Flagle Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never tortured any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd
He went full Liam Neeson and i love that for him
Honestly watching the last of us has me thinking that Arkham Batman was a coward and the Arkham writers had a thing for the joker. Like he never brutalized any of Joker’s goons like that to find Jason Todd. I get it’s in character for Batman to not torture or kill but the fact that we didn’t see him severely injure/strike fear into Joker and the men that aided him into torturing Jason Todd disgusts me. Hell even if Jason was “dead” Arkham Batman didn’t even bother. Joel Miller can teach Arkham Batman a thing or two about being a real man.
Thankfully they kept my favorite line:
"It's okay.....I believe him"
I’m twirling my hair and kicking my feet bc of him
He was so angry to tell where Ellie is
I loooovedddd this scene! I knew he cared about her a lot but this made it obvious he loved her and would do absolutely anything for her.
He went completely beast mode for Ellie, while recovering from his injury still.
2:43 Skipping to the best part
The takeaway for me was “I don’t want to survive the apocalypse.”
4:23 so iconic
I love that we can see some bits of tiredness and the effect of the stabbing on him like how he slightly falls over and uses the couch to support himself while he's in this full scary beast mode. The way Pedro balanced it out was amazing to see.
0:22 imagine room clearing with a bolt action .30-06 lol
With a 24” barrel. No thanks lol
No sights
Now put yourself in a trench and you got exactly what happened in WW1
@@eddiemoran8044"trench" key word. But yeah that makes sense
That’s how it was in WW1 and WW2
This was by far my favorite episode. Showed how absolutely badass both Ellie and Joel are.
Loved the series got nothing against Pedro Pascal, but the interrogation scene goes to Troy
😂😂😂🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻: My dad interrogating my brothers and I when my mom’s favorite glass bird disappeared.
*buried in the back yard 😅
Joel became something of a fearsome monster after his daughter died. He was not someone you wanted to cross in the post-apocalyptic world - but over time his spirit and body alike began to break down, weakening him...
Until he met Ellie. Her company healed his traumatized soul, reigniting the drive within him to keep going. This is evidenced both from the scene above and how he destroys an entire Firefly unit all by himself.
Thought it was a little stupid how all those guys split up. But other than that this was perfect!
There were very few of them to search for Joel, and he was supposedly badly injured. It made sense them splitting up.
They underestimated
I would split up too being honest here,if youre armed and hes pretty much crippled you should be winning
i usually don't fear much characters but Joel... is something else. Maybe its because of how real he is.
This is so "WHERE'S MY DAUGHTER?!"
I love the call back to the game when he uses the knife as a shiv to back stab the guy in the neck, even the way his friend found him is the same way the game enemies do it lol
4:47 Joel gave him the Glenn and Abraham treatment.
I like that they held on the violence, it made those moments way more impactful
That’s the same Joel from the game!
RESPECT! ✊🏾
He did it! He did the thing!
This is where Joel became Rick with murderers jacket
This is just one of those scenes that they did SO well in the video game, not even the TV writers wanted to changed much
The way that the guy called for Marco lol poor guy knew he was dead
If someone saw this clip with absolutely no other context, they’d probably think Joel was the scariest most deranged villain in the apocalypse
No actually David is.
Great scene but man almost everything in the game is done better. Troy Baker's delivery is just so much better.
Thats how I felt about the whole show! Hate to be a buzzkill but it was always like “yeah thats cool…but in the game-“ those performances were unbeatable lol
Joel asking "what town" was a great addition.