National Indoor RV Center Las Vegas NV Repair Experience | Diagnosis | Order Parts | Install EP255
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- When you live in your RV full time, you can't be without a working water heater for months while you search for a qualified repair shop that can schedule you in. Come along with Sue & I to see the way all RV shops should operate. NIRVC Las Vegas demonstrated it was a well oiled precision operation that quickly got us in, diagnosed all of our various problems, air freighted parts in that no shop could possibly carry on the shelf and installed everything the very next day after they arrived!
Our initial visit repair bill was $1350, second "return" visit bill was $17,375 for a total of $18,725. ($12,145 was for the ITR Oasis Diesel Hydronic Boiler System.) Add in our $530 hotel bill staying at the "Strat Hotel" on the Las Vegas Strip and about $400 miscellaneous expenses, and we ended up with a whopping $19,655!! GULP!
Full time RVing in a Class A Motorhome is not for the faint of heart! Thank GOD NIRVC has GREAT cheesy flavored FREE popcorn in the customer lounge.
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MORAL OF THE STORY I BELIEVE IS THIS: We all need to have our ITR Oasis Systems flushed out every three years per the manual to avoid the acidic fluid from eating away at the weld joints in all the components! Here was my symptoms: I started to smell diesel sometimes, so that was when I dove into the unit and fixed the fuel line hose that was leaking. Turns out, that was just one of the problems. I too was losing Century Fluid, and had a pinhole leak in the boiler. (NIRVC found it by pressurizing my system and looking for and finding the leak in the main chamber.) The leak out the bottom of the RV I "thought" was only diesel was actually diesel AND Century Boiler fluid. The issue I wish I had included in the video is the fact that no one I have every talked to "changes out" the Century Boiler Fluid every three years like the owners manual suggests. It is only 1 or 2 sentences in the manual, and almost everyone, including me, misses this advice! I would venture to say NO ONE ever changes the fluid like they do radiator antifreeze coolant. Since my fluid was in my rig since June of 2013 when the rig was produced, that acrid blend of Century Fluid has been pulsing thru my boiler and heat exchangers eating away at all the welds. I am pessimistic that my next mode of heating failure is going to be radiator registers inside the rig starting to leak. Hope I am wrong. MORAL OF THE STORY I BELIEVE IS THIS: Have your ITR Oasis Systems flushed out every three years per the ITR Oasis Boiler manual,.............AND,.......keep your fingers crossed.
Sorry to hear this happened to you guys. Thanks for bringing it our attention because I have the same Oasis system in my rig. Being proactive on resealing the roof is something I learned by watching AZ Expert channel.
the biggest problem also is using water without proper filtration, see this all the time or the filters are past due and old I flush mine out every year and the crap that comes out even with great filtration is incredible
@@lutomson3496 So how do you flush the Oasis Diesel Boiler unit water chamber out? Are you referring to a regular RV Propane/electric water heater?
I'm liking this video and getting my friends to give it a like too! Hopefully, by doing this, it will give your YT revenue a little boost to help cover those cost! 😂 My takeaway from is; regardless if you live in motorhome or a regular home, you're going to encounter repair & upkeep expenses. I also think, like me, 99.9% of your viewers would much rather live in a home that has a changing view out the living room window than looking out at the same tree day in and day out. Thanks for keeping it real with your audience by showing the bad with the good while living your retired dream ! May all your miles in Myles be safe and happy ones! ❤
Thanks Adam. We actually don't expect too many crocodile tears from folks. We feel blessed to be able to have afforded this life (barely) so far on pensions, one social security and YT earnings. Currently, we are still net NEGATIVE year to year and hit the 401K. The BEST way for folks to support our video production efforts is to use our Amazon Link. When using someone's YT channel Amazon Store, you ARE NOT restricted to only the items in that store. They can buy ANYTHING!
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Whoa!…… I’m speechless! …..
I’m so sorry for these major repairs that had to be taken care of. I agree, you’re definitely in the right place.
I will say if you guys handled this very serious matter (even lifestyle changes for some) off camera even half as well as you did on camera well, you’re my heroes for sure!
Apparently you both still love each other also! Amazing!!! 😂
Honestly, watching this video I could point out so many positives from you both, especially in such a distressing situation that you both are in.
I thank you for sharing your experience with NIRV as well as the NIRV tour.
Now, Start your engine!
Safe and happy travels🙏🏻♥️
You hit the nail on the head! I always try to help folks understand one BASIC thing that needs to be in place that contact us. If one person in a couple is starting out having to really, really, really, "convince" the other partner that RVing is something they should do together, it won't end well. This life is unique. It is rewarding. It is a way to shake up your perfect, current life. But it is expensive, and you can have plenty of bad days mixed in with the sea of good days. It you and your travel partner are on the same page, hooked to the wagon from the same end, and are pulling the heavy load together, .....it will be a much more pleasant and long lasting journey.
Mark, you and Sue are "gems" to the RV community. I really appreciate you showing these repairs and costs associated with owning an RV. Most folk have no idea what is involved in keeping a diesel pusher up. Thanks again for your "education" to the RV world. Long time subscriber.
Thanks for being on our journey with us for a long while. You are the type of viewers a youtuber dreams of having. We try not to be repetitive, but when we have multiple repairs and maintenance issues that come up, we feel obligated to share the experience as much as showing all the unicorns and rainbows stuff. I want folks to understand that our rig is very well maintained, and is a quality, luxury, high end brand, and yet it STILL has plenty of TLC required to keep it rolling along. Folks need to match their pocket book to the style of travel and equipment they are doing it in. Trust me when I tell you, we are just scraping by,.....
I'm a diehard full-timer do-it-yourself-er. I feel your pain. But it does make me feel much better when scraping Dicor or even replacing our hydronic heating unit. I love our lifestyle but couldn't afford it without my sweat equity. Love your channel!
Back in the day, I too would do all this work myself. But at almost 71, I no longer have it in me. Being FULL TIME vs Part Time is a real limiting factor on repair timing. If my rig was parked in a heated "high bay garage" during non usage times, then definitely I would have completed the roof resealing job. It would have taken a week, but who cares!
Well I guess this is cheaper than a new DS? Huh?
@@rtoadontheroad That is kind of our Mantra now,.............we are a one & done DS buyer,..............this baby has got to last us till the end!
@ourjourneyinMyles….don’t blame you at all! With the price of a new DS is crazy! Also I bet your build is better than a 2023! Thx for sharing the cost.
So glad the Las Vegas Indoor Rv Center was able to help you and have the parts you needed. Great place to have all this work done.
They are the best. No one is even close.
We just had service done at NIRV in Lewisville, TX. It was the best service experience we’ve ever had in 8 years of rv’ing. Definitely sold on their service, hospitality, and efficiency.
Repairs and breakdowns can quickly drain all of the joy out of RV Life,......especially when you are UNABLE to find a competent repair facility, and are UNABLE to get in for an appointment. This place will erase those two issues, and knows how to assist in the special needs of full time RVers.
It’s good to know that they have this kind of place across the country. It helps to have them when they work really well on your Rv. Safe travels and see you both soon!
You are correct. They are like a safety net for full time RVers.
Love your videos! What a huge bill you had to pay. You always do it right and it seems like your relationship with NIRV is strong. It leads me to believe that we should be establishing our own relationship with NIRV for our 2022 Entegra gas. Thank you for your candid reporting and the great travel log. All the best to you and Sue.
I think every coach owner should start to use and develop their relationship with NIRVC before your "panic emergency" like we had. Because we are an established customer listed as FULL TIME, NIRVC understands the pickle we are in when the fecal matter hits the fan. The do not have the non-sense response to a full timer of telling you to "drop it off, and we will get to it". This level of service does not come cheap. But an even more expensive repair is the cheap one that is never actually performed.
Pretty nice you got to go to the NHRA and go back to get your rig fixed. That was cute putting that baby cry in the video.
It worked out great!
Thanks for the information. We have a 2018 Ventana and have used the Las Vegas NIRV center. Service was excellent. Very organized center. Great experence. Except at checkout time, tissues required.
Hope you didn't miss the free cheesy popcorn in the customer lounge. (Bring a ziplock bag like we did.)
Ouch, sorry your unit required such an expensive repair. We too just spent 12,000 on our Beaver Patriot Thunder. I had to have the brakes and rotors replaced because we neglected to use the JAC Brake as much as we should have. Lesson learned! The new brakes were actually 7,100 dollars of the bill, the rest was servicing the engine and generator and replacing a fantastic vent. But, Rhonda and I agree with you. We have been living full time in our Beaver and still love it!! For us it’s the only way to travel. We now have 140,000 miles on our unit and have been full time since 2010. So remember, use that JAC brake and give a longer life to your brakes and rotors!! 😊
Keep the great videos coming! We love ya! 😊👏👏👍🏻
That is very valuable advise. The jake brake going down a grade is a gift from God!
We really like NIRVC Las Vegas!!!
I don't like having to pay for repairs, but I absolutely prefer to pay for them at a place that will get the job done quickly & correctly. This type of service is priceless when the chips are down for a full time RVer like us! The NIRVC Mission Statement is as follows: "We provide an outstanding, hassle-free motorhome ownership experience. We enjoy serving our guests and team members with integrity, courtesy, and respect while helping them realize their dreams." I have personally received the service and treatment they say they will provide first hand. Sue & I count on NIRVC to keep us on the road!
Once again OJIM tells it like it really is, and for that much respect! I've said it before - you two show us all both the good and the bad of RVing full time. While you show some pretty great highs and experiences, its not all sugar-coated Disneyland out there. That's one expensive repair, but you know, living in a sticks and bricks can be expensive too. While I'm not down $20K on the year, we did have a $3800 air conditioner repair, over $1000 for a new water heater, and nearly $7000 for a roof leak repair, and our home is only a few years older (2011) than your Dutch Star. Again, respect for sharing this.
Thanks for the kind words guys. We just report in as needed to show folks the way RV Life is, which we think, is fairly different and awesome most of the time. There is never "a free lunch" anywhere. Because Sue & I equally enjoy the good parts, we also equally accept the bad parts,.....and work together to make it work. Any channel that is always talking about how you can save money RVing is not talking about traveling and vacationing in one like we are.
Thank you my friend for the follow-up! We are new to RVing and really enjoy your videos and your humor! I may steal some of your jokes to make my wife think I am “Humorous “!
Please do! Your profile picture makes you look cool already,......
Another great, albeit a bit painful 😖, episode from Team OJIM! Fantastic footage and excellent narration and editing. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe, stay well.
Glad you enjoyed it John, and thank you for such a nice comment!
Hope you had a great cruise. We can't wait to see the cruise footage. Sorry about your big expense getting your rig fixed. Mary 💕 Fred
Thanks so much guys! Hope I'm good for at least 6 months now,.....
Another great episode.
Thanks for the encouragement Eric,....
I really enjoyed this.
Thanks for checking it out!
Might....Might>>>Mighty Expensive!!! The Weasel Sack took a hit!....Ya ,remind me not to get a RV !!! But you did do a nice commercial for the RV center....hope ya got a bit of a discount!
Cant wait to see your cruise adventure vid! 60 days until we depart! Aloha!
You got that right! No discount at NIRVC. We just hear so many bad stories about other places people go for repairs, and can't believe the poor outcomes!!! By making these videos we can share our experiences and get the word out about NIRVC. As far as we are concerned, if they continue to expand by another half dozen locations, we will never need to go anywhere else.
At first I was bummed to find out that our 2010 Phaeton didn’t have an Oasis or Aquahot, but after seeing the hundreds of posts all over, I’m more than happy!
All those Service Writers cost big $$$ that shows up in all those costs flashed on the screen..!
My best service, most complete repairs, and ability to get help when I need it at a moments notice have only happen at NIRVC, in Atlanta mostly, then Phoenix next most and now in Dallas. I just had ANOTHER EMERGENCY in Nashville that NIRVC solved and took care of for me. (Working on video now.) The (3) places I have used in my hometown Milwaukee WI have failed me,........ miserably. The (4) shops I tried to use in Fort Myers FL were no help at all. They ALL want you to "drop it off", and they will get to it when they get to it. That is unworkable for a full timer. I don't know what else to report Alan!
@@OurJourneyInMyles yup…drop it off and we’ll call you in a couple months!
Wow I’m so glad you kept your humor because you certainly lost your a$$. 😢 Hopefully you good for the next 12 months without significant needs to fix stuff. To many events like this and you might be giving RVing a bad name. I grew up in Las Vegas but can see it’s not the town I knew when I left in 67. Still after all these years I still have a place in my heart for the desert! Hopefully you took total advantage of your stay. Great and informative video!
Thanks Tom,..........we will just keep taking care of the old Dutch Star and enjoying as much as possible before we need to transition to the next chapter!
thanks for your great video, sharing your experiences. the tour of the facility was very good and interesting. i very much enjoyed and learned. we are full time for 2 years now, never (knock on something) had a serious problem with our 2016 thor vegas 24.1 best wishes on your Journey
Glad you enjoyed it! Nice to hear your RV is hanging in there,........
Man at what point will you say enough$$ is enough? Please be honest, I love your videos.
Starting to RV with an expensive rig is the biggest expense. Ending to RV with that rig if you love it is the second biggest. Keeping Humpty Dumpty running and in good shape is just the cost of admission! Thanks for watching,......we will be running with our Newmar Dutch Star "Myles" for as long as our health allows.
Like I said I do really like your videos
NIRVC is the best when it comes to service work on your Coach. They just added 7 days a week 12 hour a day Coach service at two of there locations lawrenceville and Dallas… Glad to have you back on land hope you enjoyed your water time and UA-cam break..
NIRVC seems to be the only place in the US that is picking up the slack to service the flood of new RV's that have been produced by ALL the RV Manufacturers. The Newmar Factory Service Center is so jammed up with appointments, that getting an appointment requires planning 9 months in advance. That is UNWORKABLE for a full time RVer! I am thinking that NIRVC would go to 24/7 service hours if they could find the qualified Tech's that they would need. I hope that happens!
I’m a betting man and I would say once they get all their locations to 7 days a week 12 hours a day, the next step is 7/24 it coming. I was lucky to find a Small family operated RV shop that I can us if needed here in Florida. Safe travels, my friends..
@@kirkchubbs8284 Plus I hear you know your way around the toolbox as well!
"Mmmm...Haunted Hamburger" The BEST 🍔 !!!
Great food and an awesome view!
Sorry for your loss. Good thing it is only money and not something catastrophic that causes personal injury. We just replaced 8 tires for $9,600+ after sitting for almost 2 months waiting for the nationally back-ordered front tires.
Those giant 365 Michelins have been a limited production run for as long as I can remember. You would think at some point they would finally catch up,......or maybe they like making up all feel desperate and we will pay anything. This has been eroding their brand dominance for aftermarket tires. I expect this will bite them badly eventually,..... Loyal customers have a memory and only so much patience.
Hey Mark and Sue, If y’all are ever in Riverside California stop in and eat at the place called Tio’s Taco! I know y’all would love it! Happy Valentines Day!
Thanks for the tip! Happy Valentines Day Randy.
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Great episode. I was there back in December and it is an impressive place. No work done, just want to check it out.
Once we found this place for our repairs, our RV life became less stressful!
That’s why I replaced my door hinge with a door hydraulic ram. About $50 including brackets.
I know it was expensive, and it doesn't look like much of a device, but I was amazed how replacing that scissors mechanism did the trick,......big time!
Thanks for the numbers.. Fun to see how the other half lives..😂 I'll have a different view of the "high rollers" now.. Thanks OJM
Sue & I are at the extreme bottom end of Dutch Star motorhome owners financial spectrum! We are basically living check to check, with a really good 401k "cushion". Living full time in the RV is expensive enough that it is constantly sticking pins into that cushion,......but then again,.....that's what it is for. We still love to travel, and wouldn't change a thing. The most expensive way to live is to squander the good years you have left to do it! Thanks for watching J.
@@OurJourneyInMyles I'm with you on that. I'm retired city worker so I struggle each month. Didn't expect inflation to eat 20% of my pension. I'm in 60k combined for my truck(used 2004 15k) and fifth wheel (new 2018 45k) . Thankfully both have held up to this point. Hope to see you on the road some day. I'd be glad to buy you lunch and exchange stories. VTV is just down the road from me . Thanks OJM
@@SevenBears1 We loved our time at VTV!
@@OurJourneyInMylesYou share your adventures with us and create a fan base. We look forward to each weeks episode. As a fan I like to meet the Stars of the show. I recently drove to Quartzsite to meet Marc and Patricia of Grand Adventure. For more than a year I said to Marc one day I'd shake his hand as men do as a gesture of gratitude. Knowing you sometimes visit vtv I thought I'd like to shake your hand as well.. Thanks for all you do for all of us !
Gosh, I felt so bad for you. I said to my self; “I would have traded it in!” 😂. Your experience certainly highlights two major points; read the fine print for maintenance upkeep, and have an emergency fund like you would for your sticks and bricks home!! Question though - would an extended warranty of sorts paid for this? BTW, we just decided to buy a 2023 Dutch Star. But because we were originally looking at the Venetian we’ve decided to stock pile a bit more cash before we move forward. LOL
You will be way more pleased with Newmar than Thor. If I could do it over again, I would have bought new, and I would have bought it from NIRVC. I hope to do a comparison break down video on that someday to prove my point.
@@OurJourneyInMyles sorry, realized I typed the wrong RV name. We were looking at the Newmar Ventana. 😂. Love that you like new instead of pre-owned. That’s the way I feel. You pay more, but I think the pros outweigh the cons.
Glad you were able to get everything fixed. Make me feel like a cheapskate because I spent $1,000 putting new shocks on. I have to go pick up my coach from NIRVC in Lewisville tomorrow.
I put new Koni shocks on at around 60k miles as well. I really did not feel any change to the ride, but when the tech worked on the rig he did say two of them were totally shot!
@@OurJourneyInMyles I think they made an improvement. They won't take all the bumps out but seam to smooth and soften the ride some. Ok maybe I am trying to convince myself the about $2500 spent on shocks and instillation was a good deal. I have 152500 miles on my coach,
This issue somewhat confirms my “10 year service life” belief of RVs. I had a 40 ft Holiday Rambler diesel pusher that was great requiring just normal maintenance, but at around 10 years old “stuff” that was no longer serviceable (Obsolete!) started failing. Obsolete replacement parts parts no longer available required the entire systems to be replaced/upgraded. This type of “repair” is very costly and lots of repair facilities do not want to work on older rigs do to lots of these “retrofits” of new systems are not “bolt in”… I think you were wise to change out the entire system!
We see a lot of older rigs still on the road, but they are usually the luxury brands that had good "bones" to start with.
@@OurJourneyInMyles Aren't they all junk? I have never seen anything worse than rv build quality.
When driving FORWARD and making a sharp turn, dump your tag axle so you 1) don't roll the tire OFF the wheel/rim and 2) drag the tire scuffing the $800 tire and/or make it screech! Just remember to flip the switch back to drive mode when straight again! Your coach should dump automatically when reversing.
I will add a note to my steering wheel and try this when I leave our site. I have always left it in auto. This is a confusing issue and will comment later if I learn something. In the meantime, I refer folks to this link to ADD to the confusion: www.irv2.com/forums/f103/tag-axle-air-dump-operation-308881.html
As far as batteries go, go with lithium. What a game changer for me. Use a DC-DC charger,
it isolates them from the starting batteries. Is diesel fluid that corrosive to hoses?
If I ever change my LifeLine House batteries, I will go with Lithium,.........as long as the project isn't a fire drill!
If it were me, they would have needed an AED to treat me when I got the totals! 🤯
We kind of knew this failure was coming from the other folks we hang with that have older Dutch Stars with Oasis Units. GULP! This was a tough nut to swallow,......and I am a realist, and know a few more are coming before my RV days are over!
Wow! $19,000.00 for repairs and staying in hotels and food and all that. That’s crazy!
Yes, this repair hurt bad.
Hey, I think MYLES is a money pit. I had a few rv's I never spent what you spent for repairs. I feel for you thats a lot to spend. Good luck hope thats the last big repair. Find an interstate service location they usually install for free with purchase. $169.99 ea. X4.
It has been challenging, but we still love Myles and the Newmar Dutch Star product line. Living in it full time taxes every system onboard.
@@OurJourneyInMyles I've been looking for a replacement myself, and I can tell you how many people or Newmar owners of 2022 and 2023 vehicles have a lot of problems. It's funny when you talk to people and they start out by saying, "Oh, we love our coach," then a few minutes later, "it's a piece of junk" (basically). I never buy another Newmar or Winnebago product. I know all RVs have issues. I've been looking at the American Coach Tradition 42 and 37S models. I have yet to find an owner who has major issues with them. Yes, they have minor issues. And they have an escape door called Ultra-Drive (aka Comfort-Drive), and they come with a butler too. lol This year, Florida is jam-packed with people. I'm waiting for stomach surgery, and most doctors are booked up 90 days in advance. sucks. I don't know if you read newspapers.
I read an article in Reuters about Walmart and price gouging, and I assume Walmart fought back against suppliers who wanted to raise prices by 30%-50% on certain items.Walmart refused. Compared to Walmart or Winn-Dixie, Publix charges more than $1.81 for a half-gallon of milk.Eggs, Bread. The bag of potato chips is getting smaller. Safe travels
You guys are so good at this.. -- QUESTION -- We love how you keep it real. We are planning our RV life and are unsure about getting something like a 36 or 38 foot Beaver with a single rear axle, or getting a full size RV of 40 or 45 feet. We would flat tow an F150. Any thoughts as between the two sizes and if it is simply too long most of the time?
We are 44 feet and tow a Honda Minivan. We rarely feel our size is too large, but remember, we are full time. Living every single day in a rig that is too small is an issue every minute of the day. A rig too big for a Campground just means you don't go there! Hope you are able to fix your own rig. Finding repair places along the way to repair a Beaver will be a challenge. Pulling a F150, I would make sure you have a rig with a tag axle. Newmar makes 40 footers with a tag.
Love the haunted hamburger 🍔 in Jerome!
It was a special place to be sure!
Nirvc is great service but it seems you got taken a bit on parts. The boiler online is $5000 and transfer fluid amazon is 45$ gal. Those two are almost 1000$.
You have to realize, no matter how cheap I could get the parts, I am physically no longer agile enough to do this work. Additionally, being full time, I have no where to have freight delivered to, and no where to do the work. I checked the "Hydronic Heating Warehouse" to see how good or bad the pricing at NIRVC. The first thing that I could see was that all the Oasis Boiler Units WERE OUT OF STOCK in October 2022. But because NIRVC has a direct relationship with ITR Corporation, THEY could get the units shipped directly from the factory "Next Day Air". For this direct from the factory service, the main boiler part cost was $575 more than the "out of stock" internet part, the distribution box was $200 more than the "out of stock" internet part and the control module was $365 more than the "out of stock" internet part . So the way I looked at it, for $1140 I could actually get things fixed, and NIRVC would handle all the logistics. I am the one that actually requested and added the distribution and control module being replaced so I could "start fresh" with my system. I agree the Century Fluid is expensive,......but even on Amazon I see it as $49/gallon, so NIRVC is making $26/gallon. Believe me, I was happy that they were able to bring this complex repair together for Sue & I so quickly. That repair horsepower comes at a price I was happy to have the choice to use! Now if this happen back when I was 35 years old, instead of 71........I would be thinking different!
Generally when I go in for service I purchase the parts myself. You do need to ask the service provider it they're okay with that. NIRCV has no problem with you purchasing parts as long as they're OEM parts. My main reason is that I don't want to wait for them to ship parts in
I get it and everyone needs to make a buck. But on a service of this magnitude they should do more than give you a box of tissues. None the less thank you for the cautionary tale. Coming ip on 4 yrs for my dutch star and plan to change transfer fluid with this service
@@mr.t3186 I did this at NIRVC when I had my three "SoftStart" control boxes installed in all of my roof top my A/C units.
@@jayteitelbaum9905 I didn't really get the box,.............only enough tissue to get the job done!
Man, I haven't hear the term "wessel sack" since my German mother used the phrase....:)
When I was editing the video, I was surprised I used it as well!
Wowzer
I've had better days,.......!
Interesting. Is 900 hours the actual life of the Oasis unit? Also was the annual maintenance done on it? Trying to understand if annual maintenance could extend the life of the hydronic heating unit. Could you have upgraded to the Oasis double loop Chinook unit? Thanks for sharing your experience. It's very informative and helpful.
MORAL OF THE STORY I BELIEVE IS THIS: We all need to have our ITR Oasis Systems flushed out every three years per the manual to avoid the acidic fluid from eating away at the weld joints in all the components! Here was my symptoms: I started to smell diesel sometimes, so that was when I dove into the unit and fixed the fuel line hose that was leaking. Turns out, that was just one of the problems. I too was losing Century Fluid, and had a pinhole leak in the boiler. (NIRVC found it by pressurizing my system and looking for and finding the leak in the main chamber.) The leak out the bottom of the RV I "thought" was only diesel was actually diesel AND Century Boiler fluid. The issue I wish I had included in the video was the fact that know one I have every talked to "changes out" the Century Boiler Fluid every three years like the owners manual suggests. It is only 1 or 2 sentences in the manual, and almost everyone, including me, misses this advice! I would venture to say NO ONE ever changes the fluid like they do radiator antifreeze coolant. Since my fluid was in my rig since June of 2013 when the rig was produced, that acrid blend of Century Fluid has been pulsing thru my boiler and heat exchangers eating away at all the welds. I am pessimistic that my next mode of heating failure is going to be radiator registers inside the rig starting to leak. Hope I am wrong. MORAL OF THE STORY I BELIEVE IS THIS: We all need to have our ITR Oasis Systems flushed out every three years per the ITR Oasis Boiler manual!
@@OurJourneyInMyles Super Duper. That was a nice nugget of information. I'll be sure to stay on top of annual PM's and the 3 year Century Fluid flush. I'm thinking the conventional residential hot water heater has a life span of about 20 years +/-. Maybe with proper upkeep, the Oasis can go 20 years before replacement.
That was expensive, but hopefully you'll be good for awhile 🇺🇲👍
I hope so too, but it kind of is what it is when you can't do the repairs yourself anymore.
Yikes! You probably needed to take a cruise after that expensive experience 😀 RV = Repair Vehicle
You can say that again! In a couple weeks, we will have a cruise video ready. Stay tuned!
wow repairs and general mantence are 1 thing but wow safe travels
It was like waiting for a pin to drop. My friend had his Oasis fail. It was finally my turn,.....
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things in our rigs will break down all we can do is maintain our rigs safe travels
@@allanwarmflash4440 You are so right Allan,.........we have to pay the price of admission ,......usually when we can least afford it!
@@OurJourneyInMyles feminds me of the movie the money pit just part of rv life
Excellent video. Greatly appreciate your detailing the process and costs. I certainly will be adding the replacement of the Oasis fluid in our next service (2019 4018). I couldn’t help myself but I calculated the hourly labor rate and it appears to differ in your two cost itemizations. Is that the case? Or is it not a valid approach to simply divide the labor cost by the number of hours. TIA and really enjoy all your videos.
Wow! You are good. The labor rate went up for the company in between the two repair visits from $189.99/hour to $199.99/hour. RV ownership & repairs are not for the faint of heart!
Mark!
I think that trip in the desert killed your oasis unit. It was getting too hot in that 100+ f temps.
Maybe the same with the headlight unit.
I know desert heat kills inverters too.
That is a real possibility,.......especially the headlight connection. I'm going to blame myself on the Oasis by not flushing the fluid. I am expecting collateral damage to the downstream radiators in the future because I am a pessimist! Of course I will have video if that happens.
@@OurJourneyInMyles Well since you now have all new fluid in your system, wouldn't any prior downstream potential degradation be somewhat halted? Enjoyed your video and attitude👍
@@deanh7190 We are hoping this is the case. Our friends Pat & Paul have a 2013 Dutch Star, and they also had to replace their Oasis. Not sure if the "in house" radiators started to leak & fail before or after their system replacement. My fingers are crossed!
Saw your Metamucil. Give activia probiotic yogurt once a day. Small green yogurt cup. We are regular each day without having to drink that awful cocktail.
We both do a number of things during the days & weeks, and that is definitely one of them! Plus,....we LOVE yogurt!
OMG it leaked out a giant rock 😁
Kidney Stone! I borrowed that rock from the RV Park. I hope they didn't notice the unsightly stain!
A couple other questions. Do you know the color of your fluid in the boiler tank prior to its replacement? Noticed you also replaced the exchange unit as well as a circuit board. Why is this? Was there some issue with these as well?
I had NO ISSUE with the control board. I had NO ISSUE with the distribution box & pumps. But they were 9.5 years old, and are major components. I wanted to reset the clock to as close to NEW and trouble free as possible. I wanted to replace these parts while the "getting was good" at NIRVC, and not let a future failure catch me flat footed.
Thanks... what were the symptoms encountered with the Oasis? I have to top off mine in a 2015 DS periodically. NIRVC Dallas inspected for a leak and advised they did not find one but I am not so sure.
MORAL OF THE STORY I BELIEVE IS THIS: We all need to have our ITR Oasis Systems flushed out every three years per the manual to avoid the acidic fluid from eating away at the weld joints in all the components! Here was my symptoms: I started to smell diesel sometimes, so that was when I dove into the unit and fixed the fuel line hose that was leaking. Turns out, that was just one of the problems. I too was losing Century Fluid, and had a pinhole leak in the boiler. (NIRVC found it by pressurizing my system and looking for and finding the leak in the main chamber.) The leak out the bottom of the RV I "thought" was only diesel was actually diesel AND Century Boiler fluid. The issue I wish I had included in the video was the fact that know one I have every talked to "changes out" the Century Boiler Fluid every three years like the owners manual suggests. It is only 1 or 2 sentences in the manual, and almost everyone, including me, misses this advice! I would venture to say NO ONE ever changes the fluid like they do radiator antifreeze coolant. Since my fluid was in my rig since June of 2013 when the rig was produced, that acrid blend of Century Fluid has been pulsing thru my boiler and heat exchangers eating away at all the welds. I am pessimistic that my next mode of heating failure is going to be radiator registers inside the rig starting to leak. Hope I am wrong. MORAL OF THE STORY I BELIEVE IS THIS: We all need to have our ITR Oasis Systems flushed out every three years per the ITR Oasis Boiler manual!
I have some bad news.... TA is not allowing new subscribers to join the fuel discount program for RV's anymore. boy that hurts!
I have not heard this,........I will check into it.
If I am wrong and just hit the wrong button when filling out the application… please let me know! Thank you…. Steve Schude
@@stevenschude3885 This is the link you should be using. apply.myopenroads.com/user-portal/registration The program is the "Open Roads Fuel Discount" program. It used to be called the "TSD Logistics Fuel Discount Program. Send me a request for our spreads sheets of our cost savings over the last three years. Request "Open Roads Savings & Cost Sheets" at: ourjourneyinmyles@gmail.com
You and Sue having a video of your cruise?
We will have a limited series coming up in a few weeks.
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I thought you had the starting batteries replaced at Hanna RV here in Milwaukee...
WOW! You are good! Yes,.........but that was 2.5 years ago so I thought I would renew them before I have an issue. You get a gold star for being a great viewer.
Well if you going to travel up some big hills you will need diesel . Mark I've been here in Washington since Sept 6, 2022. Trying to get my insurance company to pay up on my policy . I have stayed in a hotel for 2 to 3 months costing unknown
amount of money. The question is do you know anyone that needs a 43' Tiffin with a locked up engine lol . Hate to hear about your setback in dollars. Seems when it rains it pours ! You wouldn't be in California hu good song, long time ago .
Sorry to hear about the locked up engine! I don't know what I would do besides cry,........ Go on IRV2 and see if any freelance heavy truck diesel mechanics are up for a challenge in the Washington State area.
@@OurJourneyInMyles Well the last guy that brought our motorhome back to Cummins rammed it into a concrete barrier so now damaged frame. So looking as of now.
@@jeffsteele1295 Yikes!
I did not read all the comments so maybe this was addressed...$2460 labor/9 hours = $273/hour!!!
We had a number of other items done on this visit. Labor rate at the time of filming (October 2022) was $199/hr. As of today, Feb 2024 it is $219hr. We keep telling folks Class A RV ownership AND USE is a tremendously rewarding but super expensive endeavor that should not be started without making sure the pocket book is fully stocked!
Sure have has some very large repairs lately. Is it time to get a newer coach?
We are going to ride this pony into the ground! We still love our Dutch Star. This lifestyle is expensive! We keep telling folks that. I feel like Johnny Cash, rebuilding this baby one bolt at a time! The good thing is we paid cash and have no loans on anything!
I do not know what is wrong, but I am no longer receiving notifications when you post videos, I use to and it stopped several weeks ago, I now have to look for your postings. I am subscribed and the bell shows, when I click on it it says I will receive notices but I am not?
I don't know why that happens, I too have that issue with the channels I follow. I suggest to un-ring the bell for a while, and then re-ring it. When I get a chance, I will Google what others have found works. In between that, thanks for watching!
you may want to check if the notifications for youtube got disabled on your browser. this happened to me. just google it and it is maybe a 2 minute exercise to check.
@@chorn74 I am receiving other notices for ones I follow
that was a heavy repair bill......... 8 year life span on Oasis stuff ? it seems... why not just a hose repair or a gasket somewhere ? dang i feel bad for ya....
The boiler unit inside had sprung a pinhole leak. ITR company no longer just sells replacement boiler parts. Even if they did, I would have wanted to start new. I believe I would have gotten more life out of the unit if I had known to flush the Century Fluid out every three years, or sooner.
First I noticed this. But when you were backing I heard a backup alarm. Was this factory or you have it installed. Listened to those things way to many times before retiring.
My backup alarm actually had burned out, and I replaced it. It is awful to listen to, but does service it's purposes!
I just unplugged mine
I was just wondering if this was a factory install. I have an 08 Tiffin which doesn’t have one and wondered if the newer models come with it
@@Tnall74 It came like this from the factory.
@@mr.t3186 Don't tempt me!
The oasis systems are suppose to be better than the aqua hot brands
I really have no experience on that. I do know the Oasis is a "low" pressure system and the Aqua Hot is a "high" pressure system. The Aqua Hot unit coaches heat the floors with water. The Newmar Coaches use electric floor heating.
@@OurJourneyInMyles Our AquaHot equipped 2015 Tiffin Allegro Bus heats the floors with electrical mats (2 zones).
That hinge is about $130 from PTL National Indoor is selling it for $300 - YIKES!!!!!!
Yes, that is true and I knew that. But a few hours later it was installed on my door so I took the path of least resistance!
Repair shops for all sorts of vehicles generally double the cost of the part.
@@deanh7190 The option was for me to wait until I could be in one spot long enough to order the part from PTL and schedule the time & place to fix it. For me, that would have been in May 2023.
Does anyone know how a century fluid flush would be done?
ITR is very helpful if you call them for info. I had much better luck calling the Canadian phone number than the USA one.
As a prior service advisor, if yourbparts department doesn't do its job to help customers get rhe right parts and prices, the service advisor becomes crippled.
I agree. I think NIRVC is smart having the Service advisors and parts guys TOGETHER, and putting the shop tech co-ordinating advisors in the SHOP, and off the plate of the service advisor to worry about. This way, the service advisor is more available to just take care of the customer, and keep everyone informed with a good flow of info TO and FROM him or her.
I will stay home😢
Our July 2022 to May 2023 was an expensive travel year, but Sue & I are dumbfounded when we think about all that we have seen & done. I will be 71 years old soon,.......I am going for it!
Was any of this stuff you were having fixed covered under your extended warranty?
We bought our rig from a private person "used" in June of 2017 with 23k miles. We did not have an extended warranty. I would love to have the time to analyze & see if I ultimately saved anything by going used. I'm getting the feeling it is a wash,...........or maybe even more expensive over 10 years in a used one!
@@OurJourneyInMyles thank you for your honesty. We love watching you two and one day meet you both
Feel sorry for your pocket. It's a very expensive repair. I would have done a lot of them myself, but I am sure it's comfortable to let others handle this.
That ship has sailed for this old, inflexible guy!
Tried to think of something funny to say but felt bad making a joke at your expense, you’ve paid enough. It’s not your fault, you didn’t overspend, you’re budget fell short. 😮
Sue & I realize we are operating in a champagne world with a gatorade wallet! All we need is another 100k subscribers and we will be solvent!
$273 per hour labor to remove and replace roof calking? Jeepers, it's not like it's the same skill level/training required to diagnose a BMW V-12 engine....
I know it was expensive. It was $199 per hour labor, plus caulk. I saw how worn out the young lad was that worked on it the day prior. I would have been in the hospital afterwards!
This is ridiculous- your coach isn’t that old. I will never buy a coach with Oasis. We have aqua hot.. never a problem on an 07 Allegro Bus..
We just got unlucky,........I should have flushed the Century Fluid every 3 years! The unit was put into service with the first owner October 2013, and was replaced basically October 2023. I got 10 years out of it. Full time RVing maxing out the life on all the RV Systems.
Diesel rvs are Not worth it. Period.
Love our DP.
Bought my RV from NIDRV, they are just lipstick on a pig, no better then the rest. won't ever go back
Sorry to hear that Ed. We have always had our concerns addressed LONG before we had a UA-cam Channel.
Big boys toys cost big boy money. Wow. Can't wait to see what this does to your annual living cost.
I am preparing to be embarrassed by the rolled up costs myself. I guess at this point, it is what it is. If I can keep folks that should be RVing in something other than a motorhome that would better match their pocketbook, then sharing my experiences will have been worth while. Their is an RV Lifestyle and set of equipment choices to do it in for everyone.