CLASS A MOTORHOME EMERGENCY BREAKDOWN | COST OF MOTORHOME OWNERSHIP NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART EP246
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- CLASS A MOTORHOME ROADSIDE BREAKDOWNS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE ARE EVERY OWNERS DREADED NIGHTMARE SCENARIO! Come along with Sue & Mark as they chronicle the breakdown of their travel buddies Pat & Paul's Cummins 450 HP cooling system failure. (Needed an new EGR Cooler replacement.) Little did we know that in 5 weeks, WE would be having our own $12,500 breakdown of our entire ATR Company Oasis Brand Hydronic Boiler/Heating System. (No warranty on repair.)
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Pat and Paul got there Fifi from the same place I got mine; the OJiM Amazon Store. Come to think about it, I got my TSD card with the OJiM link. I see a pattern here. It is good to have friends to rely upon or at least give emotional support when issues arise. Great video.
Have to be honest Jim. His pad is the BEST. It's the "Husky" Brand kneeling pads sold at Home Depot. Its large, and slightly softer than the Gorilla Brand ones I USED TO HAVE in our Amazon Store. They LOOK identical, but I prefer the Husky. The Gorilla is a smidge too stiff for my old knees. NOW I have put the Guidesman "Green Moss" pads back in the store because they are the perfect density. They last about 2 years with constant use. Someday, when Paul isn't looking, I will swap out his pad with one of my Gorilla's. He will never know what hit him.
Every time I see a new release of video from you two puts a smile on my face.
Thanks Jeff. I'm thinking we will skip Thanksgiving and Christmas so I don't get divorced!
@@OurJourneyInMyles yea that first Divorce is a B*TCH. LOL
@@OurJourneyInMyles some here I click their videos as soon as I see them , love the delivery from these two adventurers
Traveling with someone that knows how to fix an RV is always a bonus. We can see how one would miss traveling in a caravan. We really enjoyed this series. Have a wonderful week. Mary💕Fred
Well said guys! Pat & Paul are such genuinely nice and kind people, we really miss them when they are gone for the season. They have been away for a month, but now we will be with them for another month starting next week! Yay!
Youre very smart about carrying extera parts. !!!
You have to carry them so the Roadside Repair Guy has the best chance to help you!
Mark & Sue, you were right in my neck of the woods. I grew up in Gallup and now have a house in Albuquerque. I hope your friends got the rig fixed and are out on the next adventure. I really enjoy following you guys and hope to see you on the road in the near future.
Pat and Paul are back on the road and we will be meeting them in Southern CA in a week! Thanks for stopping in to travel with us.
breakdowns on the road are never fun but they are part of life
Yes,......it makes you appreciate the good months without mechanical issues,............or should I say weeks,....
Hi Mark and Sue! How are things going? Wow! Poor Pat and Paul with their Rv. I can’t believe the issues they had. Too bad you didn’t have the caravan with you to help you out. He had it towed then from the Rv park? Was he able to get it fixed in new Mexico? Glad they had you and Sue helping them out. Hope you have a great weekend and see you soon! Hope you have great and Happy Easter!
Paul was able to "limp" the RV into Albuquerque and had it fixed at a Cummins Service Center. He had to stay in a hotel for a week & a half though! Yikes.
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Wow! What did they say was wrong with it?
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That’s what I say is yikes!
live friendship, and good deeds. After all, those memories and experiences are the only thing we have in our souls. Greetings from the Canary Islands!
Wow! Thanks for watching. Sue & I had to "google" for a map to show us where the Canary Islands are. We are humbled to have you watching us! Please stay with us,....
@@OurJourneyInMyles A big hug !
Thanks for bringing us along!
You bet Wayne!
You guys know how to travel I spent my life on the road is a stagehand Prop Master. I enjoy your videos all your tips and information and your positive energy. And your sense of humor Wishing you safe travels on the road hope sometime our paths will cross😮
That was a kind and awesome comment Mark! Happy Thanksgiving,.....
Hi Mark and Sue. I try to watch all of your Videos. I enjoy all of your Videos that pertain to RV repairs and I enjoy watching all your trips. You guys I follow the most of all the RV full-timers. The Wife and I are planning to hit the road as soon as I retire( 2 years + or - and a few months. Hopefully, we can meet up with you guys when we get out there. And neither of us can't wait.
Awesome, thank you Frank! Keep studying and planning. You will be amazed how fast your retirement end date will come on on you when you finally fix it in stone.
It's so nice to be able to travel with someone else in case there is an issue, and we all know that in RV life it's not if, but when that issue will happen! It was great running into you guys at the campground in Albuquerque and getting to meet Paul and Pat too! Hopefully Billy and I will see you guys again somewhere on the road!
We run into the same pile of friends all the time!
Great video as always. This certainly shows that advantage of traveling with others. It would be very informative to know what happened to Pat and Paul's coach for future reference. Thank you.
So I just confirmed with Paul that the Exhaust Gas Recirculating (EGR) Cooler had failed. God only knows if the belt failure RAISING the temp was the final nail in the coffin for the EGR Cooler apparatus. It started to leak WATER internally into places water should not be,..........very thankful for the Cummins sensors that said to "STOP" the engine now! Repair was about $8k because you have to take A LOT of stuff apart to get to the EGR, and work from INSIDE THE COACH ABOVE and OUTSIDE THE COACH below the engine. The NEW EGR REPAIR also requires some modifications to the engine because the replacement kit is called an "Upfit" or "improved" version of the old part.
@@OurJourneyInMyles Thank you.
We are retiring this December and will be wintering in Florida. We spend a lot of money making sure that the coach is ready to go but understand that things happen. Thankfully we have reserve funds in case it does happen. Look forward to your breakdown video. Appreciate the content and miss it when you can't video as much.
We will have our $18,000 repair video in late Feb or March 2023. We are backed up with video content! Thanks for watching guys.
Sorry to hear about Pat and Paul's breakdown. Im concerned about your breakdown and what that $18k in repairs is all about. I'll stay tuned.
Episode on that will air around March 5th 2023. We have been so busy, for so many weeks, doing so many events, we have had no time to edit anything. Plus, we have Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years Eve coming up! Yikes.
Super cool episode. Those Newmars are looking better every day.. We may have to pass on 2001 Beavers.. -- QUESTION -- How long is Paul's Newmar? Can't tell if it is 40, 42 or 45...
Most folks driving Newmar's are in Ventana's and Dutch Stars,.......mostly in the 43'-9" footers.
Newmar makes a 38 foot Mountain Aire with a tag. Pauls is a 43'-9" one.
@@OurJourneyInMyles ...such a nice size especially on those types of open roads. No downtown NYC driving please!
I will be getting a spare set of belts on my 2019 Newmar DS for sure. At the end of the video it looks like your drivers side full wall slide is not seeded closed correctly. Safe travels
The slide needed to be retimed again. I have to do that every year or so when I get out of jive. I have done it myself at least once. I have NIRVC do in last month when it was in for a new Oasis Boiler unit for $12,500.
Good video. Thanks!
Thanks for looking in.
love the videos guys. i hate to say it but breaking down is my biggest fear. i play scenarios all the time of what to do. stay safe and warm
You have to have great towing insurance like Coach-net to lower the stress level,..........and a suitcase of cash to keep the big class A's running.
Loving those Chan nan socks ! Looking like a mechanic to me ! U guys are an inspiration tor all of us
Glad you like them! Thanks for checking in.
Old diesel pushers are high maintenance guess when parked no one does checks
Actually Paul is on top of EVERYTHING because of his farmer background. He is amazing. Sometimes, it's just your turn in the barrel!
We were also at the balloon fiesta this year. We stayed at the Albuquerque KOA before the festival, and in the President’s Compound ($250/night and well worth it) during the fiesta. We were there from the Friday before opening day (Saturday; only perfect weather day) and departed on Monday.
We stayed from Friday 9-30-22 to Monday 10-10-22! Two videos are in process.
@@OurJourneyInMyles wow; you stayed for the whole fiesta! Sorry we missed you there.
I love that trip title…Paul’s Change Of Plans. Not sure I should say “looking forward” to the story of your $18K repairs….but you know what I mean!
We will tell the tale of my new Oasis Diesel Boiler System install in Feb or March 2023. That was about $12,500 of the bill.
We had good fan belts go out twice so far in 25000 miles on our motorhome, looking into the electric fan conversion if it happens again.
Wow! I heard Cummins offers a "green belt" that is superior to the regular belts,...........I think????
@@OurJourneyInMyles yes I heard the green belts are stronger and last longer, but the electric fan conversion is more efficient, so saves fuel and less power is robbed from the engine than operating the hydraulic fans... the newer Prevosts are now coming from the factory with the electric fans too... but need to have the high output alternator or alternatively maybe power them through the house batteries instead of chassis batteries
My biggest fear is a sudden roadblock or for any reason on a motor home route. Driving a large motor home towing a enclosed trailer turning around on a thin highway two lanes with no more room. I can drive anything! But turning around on a limited room road would make me vomit
We plan our routes as best we can on freeways and highways. The neighborhood back road stuff will get you in trouble as well as encountering low bridges. We have had to unhook our tow car to back up only once in 5.5 years.
So what did Cummins end up finding wrong with their rig?!?
I had the same question!
So I just confirmed with Paul that the Exhaust Gas Recirculating (EGR) Cooler had failed. God only knows if the belt failure RAISING the temp was the final nail in the coffin for the EGR Cooler apparatus. It started to leak WATER internally into places water should not be,..........very thankful for the Cummins sensors that said to "STOP" the engine now! Repair was about $8k because you have to take A LOT of stuff apart to get to the EGR, and work from INSIDE THE COACH ABOVE and OUTSIDE THE COACH below the engine. The NEW EGR REPAIR also requires some modifications to the engine because the replacement kit is called an "Upfit" or "improved" version of the old part.
So I just confirmed with Paul that the Exhaust Gas Recirculating (EGR) Cooler had failed. God only knows if the belt failure RAISING the temp was the final nail in the coffin for the EGR Cooler apparatus. It started to leak WATER internally into places water should not be,..........very thankful for the Cummins sensors that said to "STOP" the engine now! Repair was about $8k because you have to take A LOT of stuff apart to get to the EGR, and work from INSIDE THE COACH ABOVE and OUTSIDE THE COACH below the engine. The NEW EGR REPAIR also requires some modifications to the engine because the replacement kit is called an "Upfit" or "improved" version of the old part.
@@OurJourneyInMyles Sounds similar to what Sean & Kristy Michael had to do to their truck "Seemore" (ua-cam.com/video/qPl2UwOePak/v-deo.html), though they probably had it "easier" as they just had to take the whole cab off the truck. 😉
Glad that Paul was able to get it taken care of and sad for them that it took $8K to get it done! Also sorry to hear about your $18K woes, but very much looking forward to seeing your upcoming video of what that entails.
Keep up the great content! The boss and I love watching the Caravan series! We both hope that you will cover the train ride mentioned in this video soon too.
Any updates on root cause of overheating and corrective repairs on both Pat & Paul's rig as well as yours would be greatly appreciated. Thx.
So I just confirmed with Paul that the Exhaust Gas Recirculating (EGR) Cooler had failed. God only knows if the belt failure RAISING the temp was the final nail in the coffin for the EGR Cooler apparatus. It started to leak WATER internally into places water should not be,..........very thankful for the Cummins sensors that said to "STOP" the engine now! Repair was about $8k because you have to take A LOT of stuff apart to get to the EGR, and work from INSIDE THE COACH ABOVE and OUTSIDE THE COACH below the engine. The NEW EGR REPAIR also requires some modifications to the engine because the replacement kit is called an "Upfit" or "improved" version of the old part.
@@OurJourneyInMyles Thank you so much for the insight. I'm seriously considering getting an extended warranty after the 1st year bumper to bumper warranty is up next June.
Mark so what went wrong with your friends RV I thought replacing the belt and adding antifreeze would have done the job ?
The best we can tell is they were not able to stop quick enough. They needed to find a safe place to stop on that busy roadway. While doing this, we think he damaged his charge air cooler and other stuff. 10k later, they were back in business!
Paul and Pat fortunately had Mark and Sue as tail runners! And could find big rig friendly pull off spots! And had a spare belt! And coolant! Lucky indeed! Reminds me of golfer Gary Player answering a journalist's "Lucky" comment with "The more I practice, the luckier I get"!
Like Tom Green always said, "I'd rather be lucky than good at anything."
Great film I’ve been following the whole episode what I’m wondering is what the cost of the entire 31 day guided trip was from the adventure company? Thomyt
It was $7895, or $255/day for 2 people.
Newbie question here.
We are probably going to trade in our Class C for a Class A 40’ tag axle.
We plan to tow a Jeep or my Ram 2500 4x4.
When you tow in flat country what do you set your shifter at.
Same question for hilly and same question for mountains.
Do you ever feel the tow ?
It would be great if you would cover it in a video
Also in congested areas do you select a lower gear so it doesn’t shift so much?
Our rig is 450 hp, and has lots of torque, but driving a motorhome is typically slow going, JUST LIKE IT SHOULD BE. I rarely manually shift. The Allison Transmission is 6 speeds and it way smarter than every driver on the planet. It will protect your engine & trans from overspeeding. On our caravan, someone with a gas rig have some down hill issues, and blew a V10,...........and after it was repaired, blew the trans 500 miles later. It city, freeway or mountains, I put it in drive and let the shift computers do what they do best!
@@OurJourneyInMyles Thank you. That was very helpful.
I really appreciate it.
Mark, my wife and I have the identical year and model Dutch Star as yours. Is the $18,800 repair something we could avoid with preventative action? Love you channel and thank you for all of the repair and fix-it advise. Dan K
No. Our 9 year old Oasis Boiler developed a pinhole leak. We opted to replace the entire gadget. That made the $7k job $12.5k The other stuff was general wear & tear. Video will be in late Feb 2023
Thank you for such a quick reply! I am an engineer(structural with mechanical experience) as well. My wife loves to laugh at us both, but understands my OCD with coach maintenance. Safe travels. Dan
Good video 😀 isn't there insurance to tow your rig to get repaired 🤔😊
Coach-net is the only real towing ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE insurance around for big rigs, IN COMBINATION WITH your regular insurance towing rider for VEHICLE ACCIDENTS.
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There's a place in Grants NM, that could have fixed there RV, called CM TRUCK/TRAILER REPAIR that would have fixed there RV. I had a fuel system problem. They fixed it in less than a day.
That is great info for folks to know traveling in this area. Thanks!
If you can stay under 40' consider a gasser. They're arguably more reliable and inarguably much easier and cheaper to work on. HP to weight is often better than diesel coaches too. That means you can get up the hill better but while turning more RPMs than a diesel. Optional Liquid Spring suspensions give a much better ride than stock gasser suspensions.
Lots of options for us all to consider when looking into rigs! There are price points galore.
It's not good to mix colors of antifreeze because they are different from red to purple so on I believe purple is for engine with water jackets around the cylinders red is for those don't have jackets
YES,.....the colors are important. I ultimately had to use the Blue Fleetguard ES Compleat to mix with my Shell Rotella Fully Formulated antifreeze. I was unable to find the Shell Rotella Fully Formulated in gallons,.........only in 55 gallon drums! What da heck! That is the first time I have ever had a BAD experience with Gaffney Freightliner in South Carolina,.......they set me up for failure,...........and I feel I got screwed. They should of explained to be they were putting in a product that I would not be able to get on the road!
@@OurJourneyInMyles I believe there 120 gallon of antifreeze in my Rig I was told that if I mixed different I would have to drain asap and change hopefully you are going to be fine
@@theodorehyatt1782 I spent HOURS getting the info I needed to make sure the Shell Rotella Fully Formulated was compatible with the Fleetguard ES Compleat EG
So sorry they went through this.But you raise a good point. I have 3500 dually for 5th w and would never thought to bring extra fan belt, extra anit freeze. Tools I have but traveling solo great idea. Years ago lived in Sierra Vista AZ so carried tons of water, blanket for cold, shovel etc for emergency in desert.
I would fix very little myself on the road, but I want to have the PARTS for any young person service tech coming out to help me! Coach-net to the rescue.
You’re correct it could happen at any time. Being prepared with spare parts takes half of the anxiety away, great video guys travel safe my friend…
Those knee pads are available at Home Depot.
Yes,.......that seems to be the only place to get those "Husky" brand knee pads. That brand is not on Amazon!
Can the efc card be used at Loves as well as flying j
Loves is the only place that is a contracted FIXED 28 cent discount off per gallon of diesel. Pilot is only associated with RV fuel discounts using Good Sams for a paltry 8 cents off per gallon. We stopped going to Pilot the minute Good Sam's told Pilot they couldn't participate in the Open Roads program.
I have a picture of my belt layout in my book also 2 spares
You are a great boy scout like I am!
So, I am curious as to what Pat had repaired on his Cummins?
I am guessing belt broke over heated the block and blew a head gasket!
So I just confirmed with Paul that the Exhaust Gas Recirculating (EGR) Cooler had failed. God only knows if the belt failure RAISING the temp was the final nail in the coffin for the EGR Cooler apparatus. It started to leak WATER internally into places water should not be,..........very thankful for the Cummins sensors that said to "STOP" the engine now! Repair was about $8k because you have to take A LOT of stuff apart to get to the EGR, and work from INSIDE THE COACH ABOVE and OUTSIDE THE COACH below the engine. The NEW EGR REPAIR also requires some modifications to the engine because the replacement kit is called an "Upfit" or "improved" version of the old part.
That’s a Home Depot FeFe!👍🏼😎
You are a smart shopper!
Mark, you should grow you a ponytail!
I have a higher success probability of growing my nose hair longer than I do of my head hair,.....just say'in,.....
LoL!
Why dont you get a 4 door jeep to tow; they are fun. Im a 68 yr. Old woman, and drive a class A too.
The Jeep in our video is our friends. We have a minivan. We like having our ebikes covered and protected inside, as well as the additional storage it provides.
Better than all of those tools in the storage tray, is having a retired farmer that won't give up!.....or a fisherman who can be just as resourceful.
That's why I travel with these guys. Paul fixes the rig and provides great conversation. Pat makes awesome bakery & is great company as well. We just film them and make google ad money off them.
I find your videos interesting, but these big motorhomes seem unreliable and very costly to repair. I've been thinking about becoming a part-timer but part of me thinks a comfy car and hotels might actually be cheaper. Is that crazy?
No. That is not crazy. You absolutely must match your travel plans with your budget so you can have money to do things once you arrive. I will say traveling in an RV like ours is completely different than hotel or VRBO vacationing. We wake up at home where ever we are,.......everyday,........every place. We take that for granted until we have to travel by plane or car again. The past week we have been living with friends while our rig is being repaired. We miss it dearly, and can't wait to get back to normal.
So what was the problem with Paul's rig? How did they fix it?
So I just confirmed with Paul that the Exhaust Gas Recirculating (EGR) Cooler had failed. God only knows if the belt failure RAISING the temp was the final nail in the coffin for the EGR Cooler apparatus. It started to leak WATER internally into places water should not be,..........very thankful for the Cummins sensors that said to "STOP" the engine now! Repair was about $8k because you have to take A LOT of stuff apart to get to the EGR, and work from INSIDE THE COACH ABOVE and OUTSIDE THE COACH below the engine. The NEW EGR REPAIR also requires some modifications to the engine because the replacement kit is called an "Upfit" or "improved" version of the old part.
@@OurJourneyInMyles Yes I have heard of EGR coolers failing before. Glad he got the upgraded repair. Hopefully it is fixed for good now.
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@@WILDEBILL308 Yes. It was not well thought out. You can only use your referral credits for merchandise. You cannot apply it to pay dues or buy roadside assistance, etc.. How many windbreakers and T-shirts and mugs do I70 year old full time RVers need? Answer: 0.0 You have to buy the stuff thru one guy at FMCA, over the phone when he is available because he has another second job at FMCA , it takes about six phone transfers for them to find who this person is, then you send in your coupons that you have better saved, he processes the order, and then you pay the difference because the credits are not for TAX or shipping either. Oh ya,........and don't let them expire. Bogus.
A guy with that tool collection can fix stuff...I need more tools:)
I know,...........and it's all Milwaukee Tool stuff on top of it!
Doing a video on your repairs?
Yes,..........in a month or so so I can stop crying enough to edit.
Hope you have a lazar copier!
Yes we do!
“Pat and Paul always get there first” 😄
I'm thinking this is going to happening again soon. We are meeting them in CA in a week for another month together.
@@OurJourneyInMyles I’m so happy for the four of you. Enjoy!
18,800 dollars! Wow! There isn’t that much money in the world!
Well the 18,800 I had is in someone else's pocket now,.......
I never want another motor home. sorry. Cant take the stress.
It is stressful Laura,........and that is why we try to be totally honest about all the trade-offs to be able to live in this magic carpet. It is expensive,...times two!
Holly crap !!! $$$$$$$$
Video to come,...........the one I don't want to make.
@@OurJourneyInMyles yha!!! I saw the $ subtext!!!
Not gonna watch this one as just seeing the headline gives me anxiety. Have a great day!
Hey Dave,................In a few weeks, don't watch OUR $18,800 repair either! Yikes!
Copy Cat😂😂😂
Yes,...........this is a common failure! A few stones into your belt someday in a campground and the process of belt failure is on its way!
having a $18,000 repair is horrible. But I thought you had a diesel coach and now it sounds like you have a tesla coach and you had to buy a new battery😄😄😄😄
Repairs were $12..5k for the Oasis Boiler Unit and the rest for general wear & tear. No chassis or body work.
@@OurJourneyInMyles oooh that's bad, sorry to see it but it's worse for you, you had to pay for it