💀 Overkill or Awesome…?

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  • 💀 Some are saying this is overkill but as a homeowner I’d be pumped to see this extra effort on my build.
    This video was posted by: @brick_house_design_build
    👉If you want more overkill features like this I have them organized in a checklist available at:
    BuilderBrigade.com

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  • @mattphillips2844
    @mattphillips2844 3 місяці тому +38129

    I overkilled my deck twenty years ago and I still enjoy it today. You can still put 20 people on it confidently. If it cost a little more and takes a little extra time go for it. This thing exists outside, little things here and there will add up.

    • @MalkuthEmperor
      @MalkuthEmperor 3 місяці тому +256

      Thats how it should be!❤
      Make it better than it needs to be, so itll last longer.
      Today many companies are so used to doing to opposide so they sell more that they are wasting time they can be using on something more important than just remaking low quality products

    • @TheGuyOutdoors1
      @TheGuyOutdoors1 3 місяці тому +114

      I had over 50 people in a 40 by 26 camp about 20 years ago more then once, Still standing fine today. On a deck sure, keeping it from moving any direction may be good if the ground doesn't shift. Check those lag bolts again in 5 years and see how much they loosened compared to through bolt and nut.

    • @austin702
      @austin702 3 місяці тому +64

      The effort difference for overkill and underkill are comparable, but the consequences are not

    • @jonboy1000
      @jonboy1000 3 місяці тому +13

      What about if 21 people stood on it at the same time would it collapse?

    • @alexdonnelly9821
      @alexdonnelly9821 3 місяці тому +3

      That’s the way man

  • @mantrheman
    @mantrheman 3 місяці тому +38286

    You cant overkill while building, more stability=less years off your life😂❤

    • @Snarggle
      @Snarggle 3 місяці тому +381

      Egineers actully have a name for overbuilding

    • @graham7513
      @graham7513 3 місяці тому +764

      I mean yes and no. Making things stronger is always better. But if you go adding structural components where not designed by the engineer you could be changing the behavior of the structural system. Things are designed to flex. Engineers account for this in their design. By removing flex in one place that force gets transferred somewhere else.
      Stronger is always better. More is *not* always better.

    • @Holykraut
      @Holykraut 3 місяці тому +147

      Those gussets are going to do exactly nothing lol. The weight of the deck or porch is supported by the pillar which looks like 6x6, way more than enough. What this guy is doing is adding rigidity to a system where too much rigidity equals destruction. Wooden structures need to flex and move because of heat, moisture and wind, by stiffening the corning all those forces now get transferred to another corner or joint, which may dislodge or simply crack the beams. If it's up to code, it's to code. Leave it alone.

    • @chasegrostic355
      @chasegrostic355 3 місяці тому +28

      @@Snargglethey can usually spell too

    • @johnnybeauford3842
      @johnnybeauford3842 3 місяці тому +26

      Will the structural integrity of the wood be compromised with that many lag screws ?

  • @seldoon_nemar
    @seldoon_nemar 2 місяці тому +24

    There's no compression load, so those straps are for tension to keep it from lifting off the post taking the load... I don't know how much more strength those 3 threads are going to have against a straight pull upward 🤔

  • @jonsimpson6240
    @jonsimpson6240 3 місяці тому +4859

    Overkill is underrated

  • @MessedUpBrainspike
    @MessedUpBrainspike 3 місяці тому +5274

    The word "galvanized" has thoroughly rotted my brain as of late

    • @JuniorWA
      @JuniorWA 2 місяці тому +348

      durable for ten trillion years

    • @Cackl_
      @Cackl_ 2 місяці тому +83

      Instantly thought that

    • @imoutodaisuki
      @imoutodaisuki 2 місяці тому +250

      I bet he's using bolts from his aunt.

    • @knekkebrod2819
      @knekkebrod2819 2 місяці тому

      GALVANIZED SQUARE STEEL 🔊🔊🔊🔊🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥‼️‼️‼️

    • @hobbinsjogsohn9996
      @hobbinsjogsohn9996 2 місяці тому +201

      Is that an eco-friendly wood veneer he's screwing them into?

  • @kuntakentay6969
    @kuntakentay6969 2 місяці тому +362

    As a welder I built my outside deck out of 12” C Channel and 6x6 steel post with everything welded not bolted. All angle clips that held all 2x6 deck boards (not the top finished ones) were all welded in as well. My deck can hold a
    Car and 20 people lol

    • @gawwad4073
      @gawwad4073 Місяць тому +55

      Someone's going to have a hell of a time tearing that down one day lmao

    • @fighterpimp
      @fighterpimp Місяць тому +18

      This is fine and all. But when it comes to metals. You have to care for it differently due to rust. Where the deck boards screw into.
      Also what this person did is basically useless. The brackets are big hurricane clips. They aren't for support. The post is what is supporting the beam. That bracket is just making the beam support wider. Which he is discussing the other simpson hl55gs bracket. Which isn't meant for support of the main beam. It is meant for anti separation.
      So long story short. This video doesn't make sense.

    • @kuntakentay6969
      @kuntakentay6969 Місяць тому +10

      @@fighterpimp everything you build with needs its own special type of care for long term reliability. Thats an irrelevant point. Both wood and metal need to be cared for otherwise you’re already doing it wrong. My deck boards are not screwed into any metal, the clips I welded on have pre drilled holes for the 2x6 they’re bolted too. And the deck boards on top are screwed into those boards that sit underneath. The entire frame/ railing of my deck which is metal, is all painted and won’t need to be repainted/ maintained for many many many years to come

    • @kuntakentay6969
      @kuntakentay6969 Місяць тому

      @@fighterpimp and this video is trash because the build is garbage.

    • @AffectionateGolfCart-wv3if
      @AffectionateGolfCart-wv3if Місяць тому +3

      @@kuntakentay6969 as a welder.. you would have tacked outriggers on! We are , framers

  • @scary_creeper4161
    @scary_creeper4161 3 місяці тому +4493

    Who else has a ptsd episode after he said galvanized

    • @thatSkyKosmoTactical
      @thatSkyKosmoTactical 3 місяці тому +494

      Me bruh 😭😭😭 I bet he got those screws from his aunt though

    • @synergy8879
      @synergy8879 3 місяці тому +136

      oh god get out of my head 😂

    • @malldvd
      @malldvd 3 місяці тому

      I can not believe that galvanized has become a brain rot word...

    • @ahoroeidori
      @ahoroeidori 3 місяці тому +103

      Dude i immediately started breathing harder 💀

    • @vlcallmeprince-x6032
      @vlcallmeprince-x6032 3 місяці тому +249

      Galvanised Square Steel✅️
      Eco Friendly Wood Veneers✅️
      Screws From His Aunt✅️

  • @ThompYT
    @ThompYT 3 місяці тому +3049

    Screws borrowed from his aunt 🗣️ 🔥🔥🔥

    • @rVeraa
      @rVeraa 3 місяці тому +75

      I was looking for this comment

    • @sardosam_
      @sardosam_ 3 місяці тому +116

      With Eco Friendly Wood Veneer

    • @goneman2195
      @goneman2195 3 місяці тому +63

      Aluminum window frame

    • @natemadill2390
      @natemadill2390 3 місяці тому +61

      And galvanized square steel

    • @bloodking73
      @bloodking73 3 місяці тому +28

      Lions to ward off dangers

  • @Saturn_Sky99
    @Saturn_Sky99 Місяць тому +5

    I once heard, you can over secure something as many times as you want, but you can only under secure it ONCE!

  • @ToxicMothBoi
    @ToxicMothBoi 3 місяці тому +1928

    Y'know, Galvinized bolts go really well with galvanized square steel beams😂

    • @TheChris2009
      @TheChris2009 3 місяці тому +106

      i feel like a sleeper agent

    • @Mr.Duckee4863
      @Mr.Duckee4863 3 місяці тому +169

      DON’T FORGET ABOUT THOSE ECO FRIENDLY WOOD VENEERS HELD UP BY SOME EXPANSION SCREWS FROM HIS AUNT.

    • @420f37
      @420f37 2 місяці тому +41

      ​@@TheChris2009when he said steel beams my mind immediately went to twin towers

    • @alanspanicker
      @alanspanicker 2 місяці тому +18

      I think he got galvanized bolts from his aunt

    • @darkeyediv5687
      @darkeyediv5687 2 місяці тому +11

      Bro borrowed them screws from his aunt😂😂

  • @tiagolorenzo2749
    @tiagolorenzo2749 2 місяці тому +2013

    "Galvanized bolts" *song starts playing* GET OUT OF MY HEAD

    • @americankid7782
      @americankid7782 2 місяці тому +59

      lol I am glad I missed whatever happened with “Galvanized”

    • @mrsquid9536
      @mrsquid9536 2 місяці тому +121

      Little john payed 1 million dollars for an apartment but when he got there he was surprised to see its only 4ftx8ft

    • @itzmadness5897
      @itzmadness5897 2 місяці тому +40

      ​@@mrsquid9536 rahhhh galvanized square steel mentioned!!!! Wtf are city regulations

    • @Eddieochwilleyaa
      @Eddieochwilleyaa 2 місяці тому

      @@mrsquid9536😂😂😂

    • @PhantomPhaze
      @PhantomPhaze 2 місяці тому +3

      PUSH THE BUTTON

  • @BangHammers
    @BangHammers Місяць тому +186

    People thinking more is more. The rigid bracket and bolts reduce the tensile strength of the wood. Those boards are also in compression so you're adding nothing. Moreover, the strapping allows the wood to move with temp/humidity which reduces the chance of warping, checking, and splitting

    • @christopherbrown1618
      @christopherbrown1618 Місяць тому +56

      Yeah, but dudes looking for a good night's sleep.

    • @victorunger
      @victorunger Місяць тому +11

      The what they say until 3 years later and the elements went to town

    • @DeMoreAF
      @DeMoreAF Місяць тому

      Yeah fk that secure that 💩.
      😂

    • @AffectionateGolfCart-wv3if
      @AffectionateGolfCart-wv3if Місяць тому +11

      You’re right about the tensile strength reduction in the microlam. I had a building inspector tell me not to put to many nails into the metal strapping… “reduces the tensile strength strength and integrity of the lumber”. Makes sense to me.

    • @latentdiscourse4357
      @latentdiscourse4357 Місяць тому +12

      @@AffectionateGolfCart-wv3ifI paid for ALL the holes so I’m going to use ALL the holes

  • @Mebeknob
    @Mebeknob 3 місяці тому +1453

    Honestly my engineering degree was basically convincing my brain to sleep poorly at night.
    My gut agrees with you, but my engineering brain says it’s a waste.

    • @jackblaisdell4097
      @jackblaisdell4097 3 місяці тому +47

      Nah its just a factor of safety

    • @michaelwinter742
      @michaelwinter742 3 місяці тому +14

      “What a waste it is to lose one’s mind, or to not have a mind at all is a terrible thing.”

    • @echoarts3366
      @echoarts3366 3 місяці тому +44

      More safety is never a "waste"* 😂 you CAN do the minimum, and engineering may be about building confidence in that minimum, but it doesn't mean you SHOULD. Especially on a family home. If you got the dollars to spend on better hardware, do it. It's not wasteful.
      * - in home building. You can make roller coasters too safe.

    • @moody9287
      @moody9287 3 місяці тому +176

      @@echoarts3366the load of the beam is directly supported by the post it’s sitting on top of. All that bracket is going to do is add failure point by screwing massive lag bolts into the wood. The bracket doesn’t support any of the load.

    • @Dezzo0721
      @Dezzo0721 3 місяці тому +25

      As a practicing engineer part of the code is to protect the population as well. This can also mean their mind and their well being. It’s why redundant beams or walls are specifically added to structures in order to make people who use and are around the structure more at ease

  • @quietq1631
    @quietq1631 3 місяці тому +626

    Make sure to use galvanized square steel and Eco friendly wood veneer and secure it with screws borrowed from aunt

    • @TBKOTOROB
      @TBKOTOROB 3 місяці тому +15

      What about the pet Eagle?

    • @amphibiland
      @amphibiland 3 місяці тому +12

      @@TBKOTOROBchildhood eagle*

    • @archimetropolis
      @archimetropolis 3 місяці тому +8

      Am I seriously the only one who doesn't have a clue

    • @PabloEskimofo
      @PabloEskimofo 3 місяці тому +6

      @@archimetropolisI’m scrolling through the comments trying to detective my way into whatever the hell Tiktok it originated from. Can’t be worth this much trouble

    • @TrySomeFentanyl
      @TrySomeFentanyl 3 місяці тому

      @@PabloEskimofoIts a chinese meme.

  • @DavidLaFerney
    @DavidLaFerney Місяць тому +8

    I built spec houses for years, and always tried to do good work. Customers care about hardwood floors, granite counter tops, and bling. They SAY they care about what’s inside the concrete and behind the wallboard, but what they DO is buy the cheapest pos that looks fancy and impresses the sheeple.
    I’ve done it, but overkill comes right out of your paycheck.

  • @PhantomXero
    @PhantomXero 2 місяці тому +1810

    I legitimately thought those bolts were exposed smurf pipes running through that beam and thought "HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT PASS CITY INSPECTION?!"

    • @tahaahmed7364
      @tahaahmed7364 2 місяці тому +22

      same bruh

    • @Floridaman8783
      @Floridaman8783 2 місяці тому +19

      I thought same thing for solid second lol

    • @Jeff-gu6nb
      @Jeff-gu6nb 2 місяці тому +10

      Same dude 😂

    • @WIM2231
      @WIM2231 2 місяці тому +7

      Same hete😂😂😂

    • @zsaiya
      @zsaiya 2 місяці тому +8

      Actually same lmao

  • @Quaking_Aspen
    @Quaking_Aspen 3 місяці тому +877

    “Little John just bought a brand new porch, but when he sees it he’s shocked to find only 0.0001 square meters of usable space. He can’t even fit his grandpa’s urn of ashes on it. He immediately gets to work, building a frame with Galvanized Square Steel strong enough to resist the strongest of hurricanes. Next, he coats the frame with Eco-Friendly Wood Veneers. Finally, with some City-Approved Metal Plates and Screws Borrowed From His Aunt, he secures the whole structure. His family now spends each night sitting on their newly-improved porch, with enough space to spare for their 1,000,000 accidental children and their grandmothers casket and grandfathers urn.”

    • @archimetropolis
      @archimetropolis 3 місяці тому +20

      What

    • @sen_pog
      @sen_pog 3 місяці тому +59

      @@archimetropolisbro has not been keeping up with recent memes

    • @ExcMARK20916
      @ExcMARK20916 3 місяці тому +7

      🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @xpertcerb
      @xpertcerb 3 місяці тому

      ​@@archimetropolisChina has been releasing memes about galvanized steel buildings. Check out David Zhang China Insider. He explains it much better then I can

    • @Lucyopps
      @Lucyopps 3 місяці тому +2

      I don’t get it … to long to read and pointless

  • @TheDarkNimbus
    @TheDarkNimbus Місяць тому +81

    Your timber is resting directly on the post already...😂😂

    • @redmeat2ndamendment695
      @redmeat2ndamendment695 Місяць тому +9

      Tornados and hurricanes don’t much care…

    • @CameronPrescott
      @CameronPrescott Місяць тому

      True but most arent gonna watch from thier deck. ​@redmeat2ndamendment695

    • @ojibwedoodem5295
      @ojibwedoodem5295 Місяць тому +8

      That’s Y axis stressors, helps to safeguard against X axis shear

    • @dizanelli
      @dizanelli 29 днів тому +4

      ​@redmeat2ndamendment695 nor do they care about those angle brackets

    • @spidergod9940
      @spidergod9940 20 днів тому

      Your brain is unable to conceive of wind that might lift a deck off the ground?

  • @martinscholer5419
    @martinscholer5419 3 місяці тому +398

    It is useless, because the force is transferred wood to wood. The big bolts only make the wood more prone to split. Somtimes more is less.

    • @Kobe-mn9bt
      @Kobe-mn9bt 3 місяці тому +27

      Less is more

    • @gortex5000
      @gortex5000 3 місяці тому

      Hell yeah. How much lateral force is he expecting to get. What a biatch

    • @michiganmudduckradio7849
      @michiganmudduckradio7849 3 місяці тому +30

      exactly what i saw too, a 2x4 can hold like a ton vertically, 6x6 or 8x8 can hold the MOON

    • @MrChoklad
      @MrChoklad 3 місяці тому +12

      What about horizontal forces? People jumping on it? Wind and rain overtime? This flimsy piece of metal is doing nothing, is it really safe nevertheless?

    • @stephentucker5406
      @stephentucker5406 3 місяці тому +13

      It’s the uplift load that the hanger is for. And the Simpson are the only ones allowed those steel angles will not pass inspection without a UL stamp

  • @charliec.3140
    @charliec.3140 3 місяці тому +285

    Over kill on a resting beam.

    • @mrmaldoon8362
      @mrmaldoon8362 3 місяці тому +55

      %100, does basically nothing

    • @FletcherHillier
      @FletcherHillier 3 місяці тому +28

      ​@@mrmaldoon8362 It might hold everything a little more square in 30 years

    • @noahsalvio9649
      @noahsalvio9649 3 місяці тому +26

      Won't effect load but you'll be glad you did it when a windstorm comes through and it doesn't budge.

    • @mattbrown837
      @mattbrown837 3 місяці тому

      Existing fasteners are called hurricane clips​@@noahsalvio9649

    • @hannahmay5461
      @hannahmay5461 3 місяці тому +27

      Right, legitimately is doing nothing, if a tornado comes close enough to rip those tie downs off you've got bigger problems than losing your deck

  • @LifeProjX
    @LifeProjX 2 місяці тому +5

    Unless thats what the engineer called for, you are now liable EVERYTHING in that project. I’d love to build things better than spec, but I’d also like to not be sued

  • @danielkosiorek3163
    @danielkosiorek3163 3 місяці тому +118

    It looks like the hurricane clip is there for up lift protection, and the members are bearing directly over the column. Assuming it is using proper bridging, there is minimal risk of racking... Is the Simpson L-shape angle to increase the bearing area?

    • @WiLLAS316
      @WiLLAS316 3 місяці тому +9

      Just say he is over killing it

    • @graham7513
      @graham7513 3 місяці тому +4

      This man gets it

    • @willrogers1023
      @willrogers1023 3 місяці тому +25

      You are correct! The simpon connection is for uplift. The screws/ nails are in sheer. The connection is strongest this way since the beam is bearing on the column. Weatherproof the wood, apply termite and carpenter ant protection. You are solid! If you want the pretty bracketed angle then paint it and use small screws with bolt caps for ornamental use. The lag bolts will pull out under load. Since you have the simpson strap there will not be vertical uplift unless the load exceeds the strap design loads and it fails. One is engineered one is pretty!
      Pick wisely and dont drill through your structural strap with a 3/4" pretty lag bolt!

    • @420construction
      @420construction 3 місяці тому +2

      Uplift protection I guess so when gravity shuts off your deck won't float away LMFAO

    • @GreghouseVanBouten
      @GreghouseVanBouten 3 місяці тому

      ​@@420construction My God you're ignorant.

  • @clayed3311
    @clayed3311 3 місяці тому +201

    The hurricane bracket will resist uplift better than The Simpsons angle bracket

    • @RossReedstrom
      @RossReedstrom 3 місяці тому +5

      ¿Por Qué No Los Dos? No point in removing the uplift protection.

    • @austinblevins3084
      @austinblevins3084 3 місяці тому +17

      What does it need that bracket for? It has full bearing on the post and it’s strapped twice. Would have been nice if they would have left the post stick up the height of the beam in the corner there and have some truss screws or timber locks to help lock it together. But those 90 brackets with those lags really make a big hole and it holds water between the two joints.
      I guess if it makes you feel better but doesn’t improve the connection much unless I am missing something

    • @RossReedstrom
      @RossReedstrom 3 місяці тому +5

      @@austinblevins3084 We don't see the rest of the deck construction: the only thing I can think of is anti-racking, but a bigger triangle somewhere else would be more efficient, for sure.

    • @scott5654
      @scott5654 3 місяці тому +3

      Noticed that the existing bracket is basically a twisted piece of metal, this is intentional as uplift will be defeated by this twist in the existing bracket. It will not be as resisted by a bracket that’s only bent versus twisted.

    • @a564-c3q
      @a564-c3q 3 місяці тому

      Only if both are the same strength, use the same bolts and same number of bolts.
      So the new solution is better in every thinkable aspect.

  • @WillyWonka.-
    @WillyWonka.- 2 місяці тому +75

    The word 'galvanized' gives me PTSD

    • @eenis1281
      @eenis1281 2 місяці тому +1

      Why?

    • @Jeehhh
      @Jeehhh 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@eenis1281 galvanized square steel

    • @cabuncopy
      @cabuncopy 2 місяці тому +2

      And eco-friendly wood veneers ​@@Jeehhh

    • @eenis1281
      @eenis1281 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Jeehhh I don’t get the joke

    • @railworksamerica
      @railworksamerica Місяць тому +1

      Got Brainrot lol

  • @Insert-Funny-Comment
    @Insert-Funny-Comment 3 місяці тому +136

    Adding massive unnecessary bolts to a self supporting structure is not impressive.

    • @thefinalgrind
      @thefinalgrind 3 місяці тому +5

      Ehhhh.....Depends on many of things. Unnecessary can be a permanent thing or a temporary thing. Unnecessary is only Unnecessary until it becomes necessary. IE, the term redundancy. And when it comes to many things created, by man or by mother nature, redundancy rarely hurts the creation in its duration of existence.
      And to tie my comment into the relevancy of yours, then yes, I absolutely agree with you. Except for when, or until it's done in a manner that adds to its permanent structural integrity while creating redundancy to prevent failure, annnnnd does both while looking good or appearing nonexistent.
      Obviously that's not the case here, but I'm guessing you agree with concept of such. It amazes me that custom brackets aren't used more often. Or maybe I'm just a freak of a man who expects the undercarriage to look as good as the top......

    • @Leboobs22
      @Leboobs22 3 місяці тому +1

      If they were thinner; they would break in two. If they were shorter then they wouldn't properly tie the beams together, and would fall out.
      Smaller screws are used for putting up drywall and plywood.

    • @spray_cheese
      @spray_cheese 3 місяці тому +4

      Tectonic activity.

    • @Neal-lf7rk
      @Neal-lf7rk 3 місяці тому +2

      Agree
      But one screw in those hurricane straps is also useless

    • @B.M.D.
      @B.M.D. 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Neal-lf7rkIt looks like it also has some rust nails. No idea if they are the proper size or coating.

  • @sethstatler8480
    @sethstatler8480 2 місяці тому +13

    No such thing as overkill on lifetime projects.
    Whether you can afford it now or not.
    It's always best to do it ONCE the way that you want.
    The best part is learning and getting better as you go. And building with family is lifelong memories everytime you look at it and enjoy it.

  • @PrototypePlatform
    @PrototypePlatform 2 місяці тому +141

    the issue is this:
    a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
    a L bracket is only as supportive as the wood fibres.
    *here's the in depth explination of why this is bad:*
    this is not only overkill, but potentially worse, because by putting bigger bolts in, you have less material and more fibre compression with the timber substructures around the anchoring point surrounding the bolt.
    the conventional truss brackets are certified because they maximise the surface area and tensile load around the joining area of the timber surfaces. if you dont understand, google "tensile load". this means that by using them in plentiful amounts, you distribute the overall weight around the load baring material. conventional trusses are literally designed to reduce the amount of localised pressure in the area you're applying a load to.
    but using a large thick L bracket with massive bolts, you're relying on the bolts maintaining a localised force within the timber structure AT the joining surfaces to bare weight. removing material to make a pilot hole or channel for the bolts would make the timber less reliable in the long run too.
    *TL, DR:* big bolt grip less, regular truss make whole deck strong.

    • @RyanVanBladel-q3c
      @RyanVanBladel-q3c Місяць тому +10

      are you civil or mechanical?

    • @Frankenstizzle
      @Frankenstizzle Місяць тому +2

      But those truss brackets are designed to have multiple screws to distribute the load right? So right bracket but wrong number of screws

    • @mrsquid9536
      @mrsquid9536 Місяць тому +9

      Theres also 1 minor issue with this video which should explain:
      Those bolts aren't borrowed from his aunt and thats doesnt look like eco friendly wood veneers

    • @EddieTheH
      @EddieTheH Місяць тому +4

      They're also designed to have a bit of flex for the expansion and contraction the wood does throughout its life, rigidly fixing them will warp and potentially split the wood.

    • @HardinProuductionsOriginal
      @HardinProuductionsOriginal Місяць тому

      Nobody cares about eco friendly, its a scam​@@mrsquid9536

  • @crwnc1775
    @crwnc1775 3 місяці тому +406

    Those two are for separate purposes 😂
    Twist straps and corbels are engineered to deal with opposite forces.
    Also those twist straps in the video are installed backwards 😭

    • @ponyboyjl13
      @ponyboyjl13 3 місяці тому +75

      Shhhhh don’t tell him. He’s sleeping better

    • @Iburn247
      @Iburn247 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@ponyboyjl13😂

    • @Iburn247
      @Iburn247 3 місяці тому +35

      ​@@ponyboyjl13 probably made it weaker by adding holes all over the support that should be solid

    • @rjhooper9226
      @rjhooper9226 3 місяці тому

      You don’t know what you’re doing lmao it’s not doing what you think

    • @goreobsessed2308
      @goreobsessed2308 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Iburn247just 1 the rest didn't over lappb

  • @alexistaylor969
    @alexistaylor969 3 місяці тому +282

    Meanwhile 4 year old me helping my dad and putting in 2 extra screws on each floor board and watching him use just one screw for each post on the roof, and it still stand solid as a rock 30 years later through 13 tropical storms and a downburst on the other side of the dirt road in front of the house.

    • @imthelegend53
      @imthelegend53 2 місяці тому +2

      I L O L out loud bro🤣
      I feel ya fasho

    • @ItsCrap97
      @ItsCrap97 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@imthelegend53 You laughed out loud at loud?

    • @lomein2186
      @lomein2186 2 місяці тому

      Thats why screws are used

  • @myster5y
    @myster5y Місяць тому +2

    lol that’s the government for you as long as it holds up duct tape will pass a city exception lol

  • @anakh
    @anakh 3 місяці тому +48

    Little john got more than screws from his aunt

  • @hanisolaqa
    @hanisolaqa 3 місяці тому +107

    As a civil engineer 2004 Graduate, I can tell that you can absolutely sleep at night without them.

    • @M3rVsT4H
      @M3rVsT4H 3 місяці тому +65

      Reminds me of that saying.. "Any idiot can build a bridge that stands, but it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands."

    • @hanisolaqa
      @hanisolaqa 3 місяці тому +9

      @@M3rVsT4H We still add 20% on top of the total bearing load measured

    • @Sarge92
      @Sarge92 3 місяці тому +13

      what is this guy trying to achieve in this?
      is he trying to add support to the cross braces?
      sureley there gonna get all the support there ever going to get from resting ONTOP of the vertical beam further bracing not needed
      or is he trying to stop the house falling off the support beam in which case a flat plate on the outside would have been way more effective

    • @M3rVsT4H
      @M3rVsT4H 2 місяці тому +17

      @@Sarge92 Over-engineers look at 1/8th inch galvanized strapping with nails and simply aren't satisfied. We get that the boffins have run the numbers and it's "good enough".
      But just can't shake the feeling that 1/4 inch brackets with lag bolts would be more sturdy and less likely to let go in a storm.
      At the end of the day, as long as someone doesn't inadvertently compromise the structures integrity. Can't see any harm in adding a few brackets here and there.

    • @MrFlutsh
      @MrFlutsh 2 місяці тому +4

      Yep, it's totally useless....(I'm an ingeneer from switzerland)

  • @kevinpurcell7452
    @kevinpurcell7452 2 місяці тому +2

    Those big ass lag bolts will split that wood and make it much weaker if they're not put in correctly.

  • @bryanteel3046
    @bryanteel3046 3 місяці тому +44

    You're going to drill through and weaken the hurricane straps😂

    • @fredericdudley6184
      @fredericdudley6184 3 місяці тому +4

      Negligible.

    • @Darbman62
      @Darbman62 3 місяці тому +1

      only one hole is on the hurricane strap so not really.

    • @stephentucker5406
      @stephentucker5406 3 місяці тому +1

      No all the holes get filled with specific fasteners per the code

    • @stephentucker5406
      @stephentucker5406 3 місяці тому +2

      And in looking back. I can tell those are the WRONG fasteners

  • @gabrielrojas8718
    @gabrielrojas8718 3 місяці тому +97

    Body, thats why there are engineers to design those kind of structural elements. You might be thinking your overkilling it, but probably you are compromising the structural integrity of the whole system.

    • @AnAvrageRobloxDev
      @AnAvrageRobloxDev 3 місяці тому +1

      No hese not half of those people that get sent down there dont give a flyng fuck how you made it stand aslong as it supports them its ok its better to overkill then making it pass the inspection😂

    • @Peachy232
      @Peachy232 3 місяці тому +5

      how is an L-brace screwed into the joint between two frame-pieces compromising the structural integrity of *anything*?

    • @svndwich977
      @svndwich977 3 місяці тому +1

      no. doesn’t really matter.
      people are saying “designed to flex” but that only really applies to LARGE buildings. if you’re in an area with normal wind and a 2 story home you’re fine.

    • @aland8269
      @aland8269 3 місяці тому +9

      @@Peachy232 it doesn't need it since the force is applied straight down, not lateral. bolting it like that makes it more likly to split.

    • @Peachy232
      @Peachy232 3 місяці тому +4

      @@aland8269 that's like saying "I can't thumbtack this art onto my wall, it'll make the drywall split"

  • @Mr-Picky
    @Mr-Picky Місяць тому +2

    The strength the storm would have to be to pull those z straps out is not going to leave much anyway. Only difference I would say is maybe use galvanized screws and disease straps instead of 12d common nails. I am all about sleeping better at night though so have at it my friend.

  • @anbthree786
    @anbthree786 3 місяці тому +79

    make sure to get galvanized screws from auntie

  • @ricbaggedyomommz
    @ricbaggedyomommz 3 місяці тому +82

    “Both sides” 💅💅💅💅💅

  • @leterrip2816
    @leterrip2816 2 місяці тому +17

    Overkill because you're not trying to hold it UP. You're anchoring it DOWN to the post 😂

    • @steve8674
      @steve8674 7 днів тому +1

      But this does hold it down

  • @fantasy6108-t7k
    @fantasy6108-t7k 3 місяці тому +73

    That wouldn’t do anything. If that connection is compressed that means the entire stud has been severed.
    Getting the stud termite treated would have been a better security.

    • @hoperules8874
      @hoperules8874 3 місяці тому +3

      or dipped in tar for the win-it looks like it touches dirt!

  • @mikieboyblue
    @mikieboyblue 3 місяці тому +104

    My deck is standing for 50 years and has none of this

    • @944LS
      @944LS 3 місяці тому +9

      Laughs in Florida

    • @ezekieo32
      @ezekieo32 3 місяці тому

      I feel bad for anyone living in the dying state of America! 😢 ​@@944LS

    • @CazzyVR
      @CazzyVR 3 місяці тому +4

      Ok, I doubt that

    • @chedarchicken4901
      @chedarchicken4901 3 місяці тому +1

      Your deck is sketch at the least lol😂

    • @OGbqze
      @OGbqze 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@CazzyVRI don't doubt it one bit. It's called "overkill" for a reason. If it's enough to work, then it is ENOUGH to work. Although I'm one for overkill, I also agree that not everything has to be overkill.

  • @D9david
    @D9david 8 годин тому

    I don’t know, city requirements don’t just happen for fun. Based on structural experience. Don’t waste your money unnecessarily. The top 1 percent doesn’t and that’s why they remain the top 1 percent. Use probability theory and you’ll sleep better knowing you have money in the bank.

  • @eddiedunfield7259
    @eddiedunfield7259 3 місяці тому +5

    Those are engineered for different things though. One is designed to keep it from flying off, the other is designed to keep from falling down simply.

  • @SkylineTwinSpoolysnail
    @SkylineTwinSpoolysnail 3 місяці тому +11

    I bet he uses a similar setup on his mailbox, so he can sleep better at night.

  • @fede6811
    @fede6811 2 місяці тому +2

    The empty bolt holes are giving me anxiety

  • @Flamingtac0
    @Flamingtac0 3 місяці тому +147

    Overkill on hurricane straps is pointless. The straps are strong enough to pull the nails through the wood sideways. If there's enough wind load to damage those straps, you're rebuilding the deck no matter how strongly it's attached.

    • @zachskis819
      @zachskis819 2 місяці тому +6

      👌

    • @alexmiley6351
      @alexmiley6351 2 місяці тому +1

      🧢

    • @cherriberri8373
      @cherriberri8373 2 місяці тому +10

      ​@@alexmiley6351ignorance doesn't make you correct

    • @williamherd7251
      @williamherd7251 2 місяці тому +10

      You are right, this guy just wasted a couple hundred bucks on brackets that can hold 50,000 lbs for no reason.

    • @420f37
      @420f37 2 місяці тому +11

      Cover the whole damn thing in flex seal. The whole house the whole deck and the whole property

  • @LiveTheGhost
    @LiveTheGhost 2 місяці тому +166

    The fact that you sleep better by going the extra mile is a rare quality these days, man. Good on ya

    • @SimSummer
      @SimSummer 2 місяці тому +3

      The worst part, is that the original are better, and more stable

    • @fighterpimp
      @fighterpimp Місяць тому +1

      fun fact. That bracket he is saying he adding to beef up the other bracket. Isn't actually doesn't anything to assist each other. Both brackets have different designs.
      Also that bracket he adding basically doing nothing. But whatever this person thinks makes them sleep better I guess. Add none needed support bracket to wood. Adding more holes and screws into the wood. So more damage can happen to it down the road. When that wood rotted out it going to do the same thing with or without that bracket he added.
      Then someone like me goes back and is like who added this stupid bracket ehhh....... Life as it is.
      If you going to do something. You should understand the point of the brackets. UA-camrs............

    • @fighterpimp
      @fighterpimp Місяць тому

      @@SimSummer The worst part is. Both these brackets don't assist each other in what they do. 1 is for anti separation. The other is for support.

  • @epicdiscovery7096
    @epicdiscovery7096 2 місяці тому +1

    “Over Engineering “ is not in my vocabulary. 10/10 😉

  • @Usuario-wr2kw
    @Usuario-wr2kw 3 місяці тому +37

    Galvanized square steal for the win

  • @dmd1344
    @dmd1344 3 місяці тому +20

    No such thing as overkill

    • @Nobody2.5
      @Nobody2.5 3 місяці тому

      Agreed

    • @Iburn247
      @Iburn247 3 місяці тому +4

      This isnt overkill tho. It's unnecessary and might even make it weaker. That's a resting beam. Solid is better than it having 6 1/2in bolts crisscrossing thru its center. Will turn to mush if rain can seep in

    • @Stackali
      @Stackali 3 місяці тому +3

      actually there is such a thing as overkill and in some cases it does more harm than good in the long run.

    • @stv-gq4vi
      @stv-gq4vi 3 місяці тому

      There definitely is.

    • @jojomang8333
      @jojomang8333 2 місяці тому

      Mate, if there was no such thing as overkill we wouldn't have a word for it

  • @GLG
    @GLG Місяць тому +1

    Could technically just build the whole thing out of steel if you don't trust code...😂

  • @alandavis6429
    @alandavis6429 3 місяці тому +20

    You will sleep better after you learn the difference between a lag and a bolt.

    • @phillhuddleston9445
      @phillhuddleston9445 2 місяці тому +1

      A lag bolt is a type of bolt! There are many types of bolts and a lag bolt is just one of them.

    • @alandavis6429
      @alandavis6429 2 місяці тому

      @@phillhuddleston9445 the term bolt means a hex head and machine threads. He didn't say lag, which is what he was using, he said bolt and a bolt needs a nuta lag doesn't.

  • @QuilloManar
    @QuilloManar 3 місяці тому +10

    Passing the inspection is the bare minimum.
    "Overkill" is what good builders used to do before needing to pass the city inspection.

  • @ConceptPrime
    @ConceptPrime Місяць тому +1

    Galvanized bolts are important. I've had to completely demolish several decks and patio covers assembled with ordinary bright plated bolts. Those cheap bolts invite dry rot.

  • @questgear4172
    @questgear4172 3 місяці тому +6

    FINALLY!!Someone who gives a Ship about his work!

  • @shinyspy850
    @shinyspy850 3 місяці тому +13

    God my brain is so rotten, hearing galvanized bolts sets off a christmas tree of activity in my brain. Wonder if he got them from his aunt

  • @Pain_train_wielder
    @Pain_train_wielder 2 місяці тому +1

    Galvanized…? Are those by chance given to you by your aunt?

  • @5979sid
    @5979sid 2 місяці тому +16

    Helped my dad overkill his deck 25yr ago and we have never had an issue!

    • @knalliebar
      @knalliebar 2 місяці тому +1

      That's says absolutely nothing... 😅

    • @kenzovalos4203
      @kenzovalos4203 2 місяці тому +1

      Whatever overkill means

  • @patrickvolk7031
    @patrickvolk7031 3 місяці тому +11

    Note the nails and the single lag bolt on the twist strap. It is intended to allow some movement of that joint. Those angle brackets will transfer any lateral movement to the lag bolts. Nails can slip out, the bolts will tear out of the wood. If you don't want it to move, put some trusses so the load is transferred to the bottom of the post.

    • @Itsnotmeitsmybrother
      @Itsnotmeitsmybrother 2 місяці тому +1

      ✅✅ Exactly do it better from the start !!
      They’ll help to distribute impact on all 3 points !!

    • @invictusbp1prop143
      @invictusbp1prop143 2 місяці тому +4

      The strap isn’t about transferring load and isn’t even so much intended to stop lateral movement as it is primarily to combat uplift in a windstorm.

    • @disturbedlife5691
      @disturbedlife5691 2 місяці тому

      ​@@invictusbp1prop143 we had to have them on everything in Oak Island, NC. I think it's 70# uplift per strap, but that is not holding up his triple LVL off that post. Plus, I'd probably just through bolt it, and notch it like a house anyways.😊

    • @77justin96
      @77justin96 2 місяці тому

      That's why it's called a hurricane or tornado strap​@@invictusbp1prop143

  • @axised001
    @axised001 Місяць тому +1

    Americans building houses like 1750 day 10.115

  • @melvin768
    @melvin768 2 місяці тому +9

    Perfect amount of support you can never have too much but, you can have too little.

  • @Zelmel
    @Zelmel 3 місяці тому +9

    I hope that is somewhere with no extreme weather or earthquakes (so nowhere) because that might technically hit code but after a few years of storms or whatever...

    • @angrydragonslayer
      @angrydragonslayer 3 місяці тому +1

      I still get culture shock whenever i deal with american building code, there's no way that'd meet code here.....
      How are you guys better off than china in building collapses?

    • @Zelmel
      @Zelmel 3 місяці тому

      @@angrydragonslayer here's the thing: it doesn't meet code, they just have someone inept and/or corrupt sign off on it.

    • @goofyahboikins69
      @goofyahboikins69 3 місяці тому

      ​@@angrydragonslayerare u from the UK?

  • @redline1916
    @redline1916 2 місяці тому +1

    You just want it strong enough but not too strong where it don't flex.

  • @robster7787
    @robster7787 3 місяці тому +13

    For anyone that’s designed bridges, there is a reason as to why some structures are on rollers at one end.
    Bolt it down too well and you give the deck no room to move and expand from fluctuating loads.
    Just really make sure the load characteristics doesn’t change all to much before installation of what may look safer, might change how it holds the load.

  • @diynevala
    @diynevala 2 місяці тому +10

    A door works fine with 2 or 3 hinges, but this guy installed 20 hinges to make sure that nothing will rip the door off it's frame. Even if the house burns down, the wall, door and it's frame turned into ashes, they can still find the 20 hinges for each door.

    • @Yugemos
      @Yugemos Місяць тому +3

      It's more like a kid building a tree fort and using 20 nails in one spot on the steps... Yeah you can climb the ladder, and to a 9 year old it looks way more solid than just a few nails... but it's 9 year old logic.

    • @gesshoku92
      @gesshoku92 5 днів тому

      lol for real. They sell 79" hinges no need to put that many when one long will hold that door for a life time and look more professional.

  • @moai276
    @moai276 2 місяці тому +1

    Where is the galvanized square steel? The extension screws from you aunt? You even forgot the ecco friendly wood veneer!

  • @commgen
    @commgen 2 місяці тому +7

    This is what gets me, when someone says "it's up to code" that means "legally, it's at the abosolute minimum basic level"!

  • @christiangray7826
    @christiangray7826 2 місяці тому +6

    Absolutely overkill, those bolts will split the wood way too much, causing more harm than good. Maybe slap in two additional long screws.
    - I’m bob the builder

    • @Acxodarksun
      @Acxodarksun 2 місяці тому +2

      Uh pretty sure he's pre drill those bud

    • @retsaMinnavoiG
      @retsaMinnavoiG 2 місяці тому

      What kind of menace would ram those bolts into something like this without pre-drilling...

    • @christiangray7826
      @christiangray7826 2 місяці тому

      @@retsaMinnavoiG what kind of menace would ram those bolts into any kind of home framing

    • @craigdillworth4680
      @craigdillworth4680 2 місяці тому

      Not if you drill it

  • @kenkenny4238
    @kenkenny4238 Місяць тому +1

    I would think those massive bolts will probably weaken the timber. They look perfectly seated.

  • @pvbarbell1904
    @pvbarbell1904 3 місяці тому +8

    I did the same with 6 inch angle iron and L brackets with 1/4" plate . Way stronger than that cheap sheet metal they sell at the home stores. Used 6x6 posts, douglas fir support beams, and 2x6 redwood decking , stained on all sides before install. Counter sunk the deck screws, filled the countersink with wood filler sanded and restained. 32 years ago and still good

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 Місяць тому

      Only thing you missed was dipping the screws in bitumen or lifetime caulking first. 😂

  • @cobrinaricato1981
    @cobrinaricato1981 2 місяці тому +3

    Somebody once told me: Better be safe than sorry

    • @AnimateMJ
      @AnimateMJ Місяць тому +2

      somebody once told me: the world is gonna roll me

  • @straight-up-shots
    @straight-up-shots 3 місяці тому +5

    It won't add anything though

    • @Iburn247
      @Iburn247 3 місяці тому

      I don't think he understands that

  • @jayf4340
    @jayf4340 3 місяці тому +8

    Man, I want to go to your party if you gotta put that on your deck to hold it up.

  • @teddydubois5491
    @teddydubois5491 2 місяці тому +1

    More isn't always better. Adding more and larger fasteners can result in stronger connections but may compromise the wood's performance as you damage it.

  • @jackamerson3593
    @jackamerson3593 2 місяці тому +6

    Never overkill when it comes to safety

  • @Mr.J345
    @Mr.J345 3 місяці тому +7

    I bet the deck wiggles.

  • @nic12344
    @nic12344 2 місяці тому +1

    The hurricane ties alone are actually much better and are already overkill... Replacing them with angles is a bad Idea. These ties anchor the frame very well, while also allowing for movement and flexion so the wood doesn't rip or tear in high winds or load.

  • @spencjon4822
    @spencjon4822 2 місяці тому +1

    Those city-required braces will be far better at preventing storms from lifting it than that thick brace because of the orientation of the screws. But that other brace will definitely be great for earthquakes/general stability!

  • @ACIDJAZZZZ
    @ACIDJAZZZZ Місяць тому +1

    My dad underkilled my new ceiling fan (I was gone and he had free time) and he forgot a little metal piece that’s not needed but adds safety. When I got back, he told me he couldn’t sleep cause he was afraid it’ll break and crash on my legs.

  • @tonywalters5679
    @tonywalters5679 Місяць тому +1

    That’s awesome man to go beyond the specifications to make sure it’s done right

  • @ogkendrick6392
    @ogkendrick6392 2 місяці тому +1

    Americans building houses out of paper and still calling things overkill will never not make me lol

  • @puddlejumper3259
    @puddlejumper3259 2 місяці тому +1

    Wood is strongest before adding holes.
    Drilling the large holes for those bolts will decrease the strength of the beam. And you end up with less beam resting on that bracket than is resting on the vertical support.

  • @jeffcrumpler7785
    @jeffcrumpler7785 Місяць тому +1

    There's a thing called perforation,you're going to have so many screws in such a small area of a 6 by 6 or 8 * 8 whatever it is. The way the engineer designed it. you now have no actual strength there because it is perforated like tear away paper

  • @azkaria9881
    @azkaria9881 2 місяці тому +1

    Or maybe learn from Europe and use brick and cement instead of wet newspaper.

  • @shaundixon5044
    @shaundixon5044 2 місяці тому +1

    Remember you can always overkill but you can only underkill once💀

  • @jackmullan505
    @jackmullan505 Місяць тому +1

    No such thing as overkill, it’s simply an insurance policy

  • @JuanPabloBerthoud
    @JuanPabloBerthoud 2 місяці тому +1

    Going back to school will be a better investment. Your math does not math well enough to do it right

  • @The-laughing-lunatic
    @The-laughing-lunatic 2 місяці тому +1

    Honestly awesome overkill the difference being?

  • @anitablades6033
    @anitablades6033 Місяць тому +1

    Never over kill if you used quality lumber too. You made it to last !!!!

  • @WesterlyPrune99
    @WesterlyPrune99 2 місяці тому +1

    Won’t that make it more likely to split tho

  • @GT-43
    @GT-43 2 місяці тому +1

    Are you sleeping on your deck?

  • @FireIceFoxOfficial
    @FireIceFoxOfficial Місяць тому +1

    DID HE GALVANIZED… GALVANIZED SQUARE STEEL-

  • @auda1712
    @auda1712 2 місяці тому +1

    But in fact, "His math was not correct" 😔

  • @NOMAD-NEO
    @NOMAD-NEO 2 місяці тому +1

    Square-shaped constructions have always been more aesthetic than resistant, oval and rounded shapes are proven to be safer.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 Місяць тому

      Triangles, hexagons and octagons ftw.

  • @davidwilder7109
    @davidwilder7109 2 місяці тому +1

    Galvanized bolts are a bad idea. Zinc reacts with the treated wood, and causes corrosion.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 Місяць тому

      Yup I can show you some nasty examples.

  • @ethantorres2535
    @ethantorres2535 2 місяці тому +1

    galvanized steel and spare bolts

  • @ResuResu-i4u
    @ResuResu-i4u 2 місяці тому +1

    "and eco-friendly wood veneers"

  • @89Ayten
    @89Ayten 2 місяці тому +1

    Reducing the flexion by about 6" helps i guess

  • @aoyuki1409
    @aoyuki1409 2 місяці тому +1

    Did someone said galvanized?

  • @thisismytube22
    @thisismytube22 7 днів тому +1

    Like how much better?