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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
  • Join me as I explore strange new rules, seek out new systems and mechanics, and boldly go where several bankrupt games companies have been before!
    Tabletop may not be the final frontier in gaming, but it is one littered with successful and unsuccessful RPGs. These are the histories of the publishers who attempted to create a roleplaying game in the Star Trek universe.
    Corrections:
    I mistakenly refer to Amarillo Design Bureau as the Armadillo Design Bureau. That’s embarrassing. Modiphius' first 2D20 game was in fact Mutant Chronicles 3e, not Achtung! Cthulhu as I say in the video.
    It was in fact Ross Isaacs at Last Unicorn Games who developed the Icon system, not “Rob Isaacs” as I mistakenly said.
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    #startrek #rpg #tabletopgaming #roleplaying
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:40 First Contact
    01:25 Heritage Models
    04:50 FASA
    09:40 Tsukuda
    11:20 Task Force Games & Armadillo Design Bureau
    15:30 Last Unicorn Games
    23:30 Decipher
    26:14 Modiphius
    31:14 Generations
    32:54 Is that Q?
    Links & Sources:
    Steven S. Long's Last Unicorn Supplements - stevenslong.squ...
    Memory Icon's Last Unicorn DLC - www.coldnorth.c...
    Prime Directive Set - the Tardis Captain’s Bag of Holding Blog - tardiscaptain....
    Lost Minis Wiki - www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki
    Stuff of Legends - www.solegends.com
    Board Game Geek - boardgamegeek....
    Memory Alpha - memory-alpha.f...
    Music:
    Jordan Sorcery Theme by Joylin Music
    Copyright:
    Images used belong to their respective copyright owners
    Jordan Sorcery Coat of Arms and Theme copyright @jordansorcery

КОМЕНТАРІ • 162

  • @blackasp001
    @blackasp001 Рік тому +23

    It's AMARILLO Design Bureau!
    Been a fan of the Star Fleet Universe for literally decades, and is my preferred universe/timeline 😁

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +8

      Good grief I don’t know how I’ve done that! I must have misread it once and then perpetuated the mistake in all my research and writing! So much for my attention to detail!

    • @aquilaprimedesign
      @aquilaprimedesign Рік тому +2

      @@jordansorcery It's okay, most people associate Texas (where ADB is based) with Armadillos :)

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Hopefully I get away with it being gently humorous and not offensively inconsiderate!

    • @The_Keto_Klingon
      @The_Keto_Klingon Рік тому

      ​@Jordan Sorcery funny thing is there is a knockoff company that misleads customers that uses ADB but calls itself Amardillo Design Buereau. There was to my knowledge some legal action in progress.

  • @bearthegenxgm
    @bearthegenxgm Рік тому +6

    Also it's Amarillo, not armadillo. It's the Spanish word for yellow and the name of the city in Texas they are based out of ;)

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +2

      I am kicking myself for that one - an embarrassing misread worthy of discommendation!

    • @bearthegenxgm
      @bearthegenxgm Рік тому

      @@jordansorcery Kai the Channel Creator!

  • @bearthegenxgm
    @bearthegenxgm Рік тому +18

    Played or read 90% of these and my heart will always belong to FASA Trek, PD One, and LUG Trek. Great video! Live long and prosper.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +2

      Some fantastically thought provoking Star Trek lore and stories in these games, I’m glad we got them all even if they didn’t all last! Peace and long life.

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Рік тому +3

    The “four, no five lines” bit was an amusing callback.
    I recently made a character for the current Star Trek RPG. We’re playing a campaign that’s a riff on Lower Decks. My character is a new Ensign fresh from the academy - a Cardassian Ship’s Counselor.

  • @stdutch5172
    @stdutch5172 5 місяців тому +1

    This brings back a lot of memories. When I was in college in the early 80s, our gaming group played the FASA edition, both Federation and Klingon campaigns. But since the ship-to-ship combat rules were janky, we used the Starfleet Battles rules instead. Still have my SFB rules, but lost the FASA rules somewhere, somehow years ago.

  • @jonnypariah1
    @jonnypariah1 Рік тому +10

    Deep Space Nine for the win, and not just because Garrick was one of the BEST characters EVER. It was more gritty, grounded and ... real, for lack of a better expression. Loved DS9.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I couldn’t agree more!

    • @Darthborg
      @Darthborg Рік тому +3

      Good to see another DS9 fan out there.

    • @jonnypariah1
      @jonnypariah1 Рік тому +2

      @@jordansorcery One of my prize possessions is an Andy Robinson signed Garrick poster :) bummed I never got to read 'A stitch in time' mind ... Oh and regarding Modiphius, their Fallout RPG is pretty good too ...

  • @Jackalblade9
    @Jackalblade9 Рік тому +5

    I had NO idea there were so many different Star Trek RPGs, nor that Japan's first ttrpg was a Star Trek one, this was a wonderful watch! I'll need to look into the Modiphius Star Trek line, I love their Conan and Infinity stuff.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +2

      I didn’t realise either, but it makes sense given the importance of the franchise. It’s a shame so many great efforts got cut short though. The Modiphius game is terrific fun I think!

  • @flutebasket4294
    @flutebasket4294 Рік тому +2

    The Star Trek III Sourcebook pictured here 7:57 makes my soul weep for a lost era....

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Such a great era, so many fantastic stories

  • @jacobn8509
    @jacobn8509 Рік тому +1

    I remember seeing an ad for Prime Directive and going, "Wait, why the hell are they being so coy about IS THAT A GORILLA WITH THOSE KLINGONS"

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      I was stunned in my tracks, it’s an incredible cover!

  • @gameprose4293
    @gameprose4293 Рік тому +1

    Because I'm in their reviewer program, I get a lot of free content in PDFs for the Modiphius RPGs. So that's how I wound up with the majority of my ST:Adventures collection. Been itching to run a game of it but haven't had a chance.

  • @killstefani
    @killstefani Рік тому +1

    The "Armadillo" version of Star Trek conjures a very intriguing universe. 🤣

  • @cavalcojj
    @cavalcojj Рік тому +6

    DS9 is a great choice Jordan. probably my favorite as well. I remember asking my parents to stay up and watch it in the 90's cause I was still young and had a bed time of 8 pm and DS9 aired at 9. So once a week I got to stay up and watch the more adult star trek show with my parents and older brother.
    Anyway great video and the rpg side is fascinating.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +2

      In the UK DS9 was shown on Thursday, I think, evenings on BBC2 at 18:00. They did a different genre show every evening so some nights it was TNG others Sliders or Buffy. Absolutely awesome era of television and a wicked weeknight routine - finish dinner, wash plates, watch amazing sci-fi, do your homework! I love the idea of it being a special treat to stay up with family though, I imagine that has made some lovely memories.

  • @anvil242
    @anvil242 Рік тому +3

    Well done. I started with FASA's version back in the 90's. The Last Unicorn Games version made me switch ALL of my roleplaying games to Gurps for 10 years, it was so bad. I know it still has fans, but I am not one of them. Currently loving STA though, and have run several campaigns, some of them set in the FASA universe.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! That's fun, I love the idea of taking some of the best bits from alternate iterations of the universe and using them for your own storytelling. I've been enjoying STA a lot and definitely pick and choose the aspects of the canon that I like best!

  • @ogremark5
    @ogremark5 Рік тому +6

    Great overview of Trek RPGs. Not too many people know about the Heritage game or the Japanese-published ones. I've been a Trekker for 50 years and I played the Heritage, FASA, and Task Force games. The reason Starfleet Battles and Prime Directive are not "Star Trek" is because they originally got their license from the Starfleet Technical Manual by Franz Joseph published by Ballantine Books.
    I'd love to hear more about your experience with STA. I've struggled with all the moving parts of the game system.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      That’s super interesting, thank you! I’d seen some references to the technical manual in my research, but hadn’t connected all the dots!
      I’ve really enjoyed running STA as I find the mechanics really bring out the technical capabilities of the characters - they feel like highly trained Starfleet officiers - and I like how collaborative it makes things feel, as if these specialists are really working together

    • @DoctorEviloply
      @DoctorEviloply Рік тому

      @@jordansorcery Personally I find STA a bit messy and clunky. Nowhere near as clunky as FASA Trek but still noticably not fun for me to GM. I find using Traveller works really well for Trek and keeping things simple whilst allowing characters to show off their skills. There was actually supposed to be a Prime Directive book for Traveller but that might be vaporware at this point.

  • @rizzard1979
    @rizzard1979 Рік тому +1

    I used to play federation commander at my old LGS so detailed... so frikkin nerdy! very fond memories

  • @langwords
    @langwords Рік тому +2

    I'm not sure if it was in a video or on a stream, but Matt Colville recently shared an anecdote about working on one of the Trek RPGs at Last Unicorn Games. Apparently the Paramount execs didn't understand the concept of RPGs fully, and wanted to prevent players from making their own characters, or restrict certain aspects of how characters could be created, citing that "there are no overweight, disabled, or 'unattractive' people in Starfleet, the Federation is a utopia." The writers/designers only managed to make them back down by finding examples *in the shows and movies* of overweight, disabled, and 'unattractive' characters from Starfleet. Pretty interesting insight into how studios sometimes look at their properties and the kind of control they seek when licensing them.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      That is very interesting, I didn't even know Colville had worked on them! I'm not surprised about the executive dissonance, if recent D&D events have taught me anything its that there is and always has been a distinction between the money focused people at the top and the creative people and players at the bottom. Sadly despite all the artistry and effort RPGs are most often still commercial products after all - its just extra disappointing to hear that the then stewards of such a hopeful and inclusive world as Trek would be so brazenly exclusionary!

    • @scribe_ineti
      @scribe_ineti Рік тому +1

      @@jordansorcerythank goodness things have changed.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      That’s good to hear!

  • @ogremark5
    @ogremark5 Рік тому +2

    Heritage Models had Conan, Star Trek, and John Carter of Mars games and miniatures. Modiphius now has 2D20 based Conan, Star Trek, and John Carter of Mars games and miniatures. Coincidence?

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      Here’s someone asking the real questions!

  • @rochedl
    @rochedl Рік тому +1

    Love the quote at the end :). I have been such a FASA fan that it is my main Head Cannon for Star Trek :). When Star Trek Beyond came out I blurted out in the Theater that the ship on screen was a Larson class ship!!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      I'm glad someone mentioned it, and didn't think I was just a totally mad space god! I didn't realise the ship in Beyond was from the FASA books, that's ace!

  • @Darthborg
    @Darthborg Рік тому +3

    Yessss ty for this! It’s my day off and gonna start the day to this awesome video! DS9 fan here so hope this is gonna be good ❤

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      My pleasure, hope it was a good start to the day!

    • @Darthborg
      @Darthborg Рік тому +1

      @@jordansorcery just about finished! It’s a great video and btw thanks for doing the HeroQuest and Warhammer quest videos as those are some of my favorite boxed games and I am glad you did a whole retrospective video on that series.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      Had to spend the time on WHQ - it was too important a game to cut short!

  • @godofzombi
    @godofzombi Рік тому +2

    Never played any Star Trek RPG but my friend told me about his campaign; They were crew on the USS Terminator (Named after the line between light and dark on a planetary body, not Ahnuld's famous character.) I believe their sister ships were called Horizon, Merridan and Equator. They did trick some pirates into thinking they were a Star fleet experimental weapons test ship rather than a practically unarmed science vessel.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Those names are great! I love the sound of that adventure - a cool non-violent solution worthy of Trek

  • @Cuthbo
    @Cuthbo 4 місяці тому

    All our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. Out out, brief candle.
    Er...great video! Thanks.

  • @mattcunnington1972
    @mattcunnington1972 Рік тому +2

    This was a great video, thanks. Really well researched. Reminded me of the day I picked up my FASA 2nd Edition Deluxe from Hamleys. We played it to death, and I still have it with my ship recognition manuals and klingon books. Loved the way the Tactical Combat Simulator meshed with the RPG so crew rolls influenced the battle, engineer giving more power, helm allowing more move, etc. I played the Dixie Gambit, it was a great story, espionage to the core. I also remember other adventures such as Orion Ruse and Termination 1456, where you played Klingon characters. FASA losing the licence was a great shame. Their source books were brilliant and so well written.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      Oh wow, Hamleys was such a treat back in the day! That crew collaboration aspect is so great, I like that STA enables something similar - it's a fantastic aspect of Trek and I think it often makes armed conflict much more interesting in the Trek universe if it is a collective action with lots of mini-challenges rather than just a party of warriors shooting at something. Glad to hear Dixie Gambit is as good as it looks - definitely on my list to check out in more detail!

  • @MercuryKnight5
    @MercuryKnight5 Рік тому +3

    Damn it, now you've got me wanting to dig up my old copy of Prime Directive first edition and force myself to read the rules! Something I could never manage, back in the day.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +2

      Every time someone digs out a classic game from the back of their collection a Jordan Sorcery video gets its wings!

  • @thefinalfrontiersmen
    @thefinalfrontiersmen Рік тому +1

    Great video! I learned about a couple of systems I never knew about before. I'm half tempted to buy a copy of the Japanese RPG just for the sake of it. But, truly, Star Trek Adventures is where it's at. One of the main goals of our channel is to spread the love of STA and help get new players into it. In fact, we're doing a giveaway until the end of February for some stuff to get people started with it. Hopefully it leads to a next generation of Star Trek roleplayers.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      I know what you mean about those Tsukuda Hobby games - they all look so well put together, very tempting even just as curios! My money is with you though - STA is great fun, I've had such a good time running it and all my players have really enjoyed it too! Good luck with the giveaway!

  • @Mr_Waffle.
    @Mr_Waffle. Рік тому +1

    the references were breeding in that script like tribbles, great video! I didn't know any of these at all except for the CCGs, loved collecting those when I was a kid. Only ever played one game and got my butt kicked though lol. Oh well

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Haha, then I can consider my mission successful! The Star Trek and Star Wars Decipher CCGs were great fun, a lot of good memories from those games!

  • @LordOcti
    @LordOcti Рік тому +2

    Well done sir! I didn't know about adventures, I might have to pick that up instead of trying to complete my decipher collection.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Modiphius have done a great job with it, I feel. Lots of good material and ideas for stories, and some really lovingly produced books.

  • @MikeWhiskyTango
    @MikeWhiskyTango Рік тому +1

    It amazes me companies like Heritage in the golden age of wargaming can go broke. It was a period when wargaming was at its height and role playing had emerged in full force in every genre and people wanted miniatures. Skirmish gaming was also huge, and that was the hybrid wargaming and almost role playing of 1 miniature representing 1 combatant (as opposed to 1 figure representing 20-100 actual soldiers in wargaming).

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      It’s a real shame. Though there’s long been demand it looks like a tough industry to get established and stay afloat in. And whilst I don’t know the particulars of the Heritage collapse, there’s enough other examples to show that there’s a lot of mismanagement across the industry! Heritage did some great work in their time though, real trailblazers

  • @rotwang2000
    @rotwang2000 Рік тому

    For fans of the FASA game, 3D printing now makes it possible to get all the models from the various sourcebooks for use in their Starship combat system or for those who want nice models to add to a Star Trek spaceship collection.

  • @cameronward9443
    @cameronward9443 Рік тому +2

    Jordan your content is great, and criminally under viewed. Hope more people find this channel!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      That's very nice of you to say, thank you!

  • @nudicegaming6813
    @nudicegaming6813 5 місяців тому +1

    I have some FASA stuff, SFB/Prime Directive, and Last Unicorn stuff. It's fun to see what they did with the license.

  • @godofzombi
    @godofzombi Рік тому +3

    Captain Cisko leaving his baseball behind on DS9/Terok nor is still one of the biggest flexes in Star Trek.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +2

      Ha, it really was! A genuinely awesome moment

    • @Jarumo76
      @Jarumo76 Рік тому

      Weyoun : "I assume Captain Sisko removed or destroyed everything of value?"
      Dukat : "Not everything."
      *Dukat picks up Sisko's baseball*
      Weyoun : "What is that?"
      Dukat : "A message from Sisko."
      Weyoun : "I don't understand."
      Dukat : "He's letting me know... he'll be back."

  • @mikenolan73
    @mikenolan73 Рік тому +1

    Fascinating look at the different Trek rpgs. I went from FASA to Decipher to Modiphius (yet only got FASA to the table).
    I really appreciated the links to the supplemental LUG Trek material, will definitely mine them for ideas with the Modiphius STA.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I'm glad it was interesting - I was really surprised at how much stuff was out there that I'd just never even heard of! Really enjoyed researching this one!

  • @Aliexster
    @Aliexster Рік тому +1

    Of course we need Giant Kirk, and we need to bring back Giant Spock in to talk some sense into him!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Agreed, it’s the only logical solution!

  • @BRBMrSoul
    @BRBMrSoul Рік тому +1

    Hell ya…DS9 is my fav too…”she may have flaws, but she has teeth!”

  • @mattvegas3388
    @mattvegas3388 Рік тому +1

    I'm loving your videos. I'm about 50 and was an RPG and miniature gamer for a while. In the USA when I was gaming back when, Games Workshop wasn't a presence, but I knew about it and saw Warhammer grow. So I was never into GW. But your videos about the history of Warhammer has been super interesting. I watched a couple of other videos you put out about topics I weren't so interested in and found them very fun to see. I love your style. I never was into a Star Trek rpg, but really enjoyed learning about it. I'm looking forward to anything else you put out. I really want to see your idea of "game reports". And if you ever get around to it, do something on the miniature company of "Ral Partha", before GW it was the biggest player and was very large and touched many people. I'd like to know their relationship with TSR and Dungeons and Dragons back in the days. One of the aspects I find interesting is how different the style was between the Ral Partha figures and then the GW figures later on. Great show, please please please keep it up.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      This is very nice of you to say, thank you.
      A look at Ral Partha is an interesting suggestion - I've only really ever encountered them as D&D minis many years ago, but I know they have a storied history of their own. A good suggestion for the potential projects long list!

  • @keepcalmandre-roll5480
    @keepcalmandre-roll5480 Рік тому +2

    DS9 is of course the right answer to what is the best Star Trek Series :).
    Really want to play a Star Trek RPG. One of my friends has been talking about DM’ing one. Though I also kind of want to do a Lower Decks themed one :)

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      Ha, it’s the only choice for me!
      I’ve really enjoyed running STA, and would love to play in a campaign at some point too. The Star Trek universe is just so good to muck around in! And yeah, 100% behind that Lower Decks theme!

  • @subraxas
    @subraxas 8 місяців тому +1

    Merry Christmas!
    Keep doing what you're doing, Jordan!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much! And Merry Christmas!

  • @TardisCaptain
    @TardisCaptain 8 місяців тому +1

    The photo you used at 15:02 came from my gaming blog. I took the photo to talk about my entry into the 2021 Character Creation Challenge. I as using the D20 version of Prime Directive on that day. I tried posting a link to the article, but I think that UA-cam's tools pulled down the comment.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  8 місяців тому

      Hi mate, I’ve now added a link to your post in the description so people can follow the challenge. Apologies for not doing so earlier

    • @TardisCaptain
      @TardisCaptain 8 місяців тому

      @@jordansorcery Thank you. The next challenge starts on January 1st.

  • @imkycarsten
    @imkycarsten Рік тому

    The Armadillo Starfleet Game‘s story is AMAZING 😂

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I made the mistake of calling it Armadillo when it’s actually Amarillo, which is terribly embarrassing! But everything else about their game was accurate, and I agree it is fascinating!

  • @Zombiewski
    @Zombiewski Рік тому +2

    Star Trek Adventure is fantastic and really easy for a GM to run.

  • @AlVainactual
    @AlVainactual Рік тому +1

    I saw someone trying to use D&D 5E instead of one of the NUMEROUS GREAT Star Trek published RPGs. Remember, Suvwl'! Using 5E instead of an appropriate RPG makes you a P'Tak and shames your house and ancestors!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      When you sit down to play a Star Trek RPG and the GM puts the 5e Monster Manual on the table…”perhaps today is a good day to die!”

    • @AlVainactual
      @AlVainactual Рік тому +1

      @@jordansorcery Hahahah

  • @jeremyclegg3588
    @jeremyclegg3588 11 місяців тому

    I have played most of the games you talk about here. And I will admit that I feel that the 2D20 version is my favorite. Mostley do to the way it incorporates science teamwork into the core rules. That and the background material written in the fluff is up there with the FASA title. Especialy the Kinglon book that was a delight just to read. (I admit to being a fan of Decandido's work) I just hope that they can keep publishing this game for years to come.
    Oh, and in case you didn't know already, Lower Decks Campaign Guide!

  • @Blacknight8850
    @Blacknight8850 Рік тому +1

    Star wars just seems like it's particularly hard to fit your own story into it without either memorizing the timeline up til the point you're playing at or completely disregarding it to do your own thing. Sure, in Star Wars you could all play four hairless psychic teddy bears in a trenchcoat, or three aquatic aliens and one psychic rock to act as an aquarium ornament in a spaceship full of water (both ideas me and my friends tried to pitch to our increasingly despairing DM) but overall you only had to know one thing timeline-wise - _are we pre- or post-Empire?_
    Whereas Star Trek seems like it would be especially prone to priggish DMs and players going "No no, the Federation was still at war with the Romulans at this time, you can't play a Romulan. And no, you can't be a Cardassian federation officer" or complaining that they shouldn't be encountering Borg because there were no Borg at this point in the timeline in the Delta Quadrant.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I find that like any licensed setting it totally comes down to your GM and players, and what kind of stories they want to tell/participate in. I've been lucky enough to play in groups that put our own stories and fun at the heart of the game - meaning that inconsistencies or contradictions are okay if it benefits our story. No one from Paramount is going to be looking over our shoulder after all! I've definitely experienced GMs that were too beholden to the 'real' story for my taste, but thankfully I've been able to avoid that for the most part.

  • @thefenrisianssweatshop
    @thefenrisianssweatshop Рік тому +1

    I remember when I first moved to Sussex, back after I left service in 2004, I first got a job in a company called gardeners books. And remember spending a good amount of time in the games book section of the warehouse. And naturally finding the Star Trek books. At the time I was massively into WoD, but I’d have a wee butchers at a few of the books there I did see, which was very little. Wish I’d taken a punt on them now…

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I used to work at Waterstones and have similar regrets! There’s a pretty healthy secondary market for some of the Star Trek RPGs and they’re not all as pricey as some other retro games have gotten, thankfully

    • @thefenrisianssweatshop
      @thefenrisianssweatshop Рік тому +1

      @@jordansorcery WoD retro (my current bag if you will) is about on par with what it was back in the day. Literally an hour after watching your video I bought two two for about their oh retail price. I guess it all depends on brand I guess. And I probably will look at these now…. 🤣 thanks Jordan!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      This is the danger of nostalgia! Every topic I cover makes me desperate to get a copy of the game in my collection again!

  • @MrMarbles77
    @MrMarbles77 Рік тому +1

    I've never played a pen-and-paper RPG, but, as someone that's enjoyed Star Trek (especially TNG & DS9) I found this video really interesting and entertaining. Thanks for making it :)

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      I’m glad you enjoyed it! I’m a long stand Trek and RPG fan - I’d always recommend giving the latter a go if you get the chance, there’s nothing quite like a good roleplaying game with friends!

  • @TheByteknight
    @TheByteknight Рік тому +2

    Long Live FASA Star Trek!

  • @matthewconstantine5015
    @matthewconstantine5015 Рік тому +1

    Years ago...maybe 2002 or 2003?...I ran a short campaign for Star Trek using Atlas Games's WaRP system (Over the Edge 2nd Ed's rules) and FASA's version of the Trek setting. I enjoyed the heck out of it, but it's the only Trek roleplaying I've really done, which seems odd. I've still got a bunch of the FASA stuff and most of the Last Unicorn lines. I should probably dust them off and do something with them.
    Great video, by the way.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I’ve had phases of getting super into Trek gaming and then periods where I wanted to watch it and not play it. It’s strange how that happens. It’s such a great universe though, so many fun games to play in it!

  • @anotherzingbo
    @anotherzingbo Рік тому +1

    I've played the Last Unicorn and Decipher Star Trek games, both were at least adequate enough to support our GM's passion for the Star Trek universe and the stories he wanted us to participate in. I remember hearing about the Modiphius edition, mainly about that enormous boxed release it had, but it's good to hear that it is actually a good game.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +2

      That big borg box totally seduced me! I hadn't intended to get it, but I couldn't stop myself - luckily it has been a lot of fun to play!

  • @leonardbharrisjr.1810
    @leonardbharrisjr.1810 10 місяців тому +1

    I loved FASA Star Trek Rpg

  • @shvagyerpl
    @shvagyerpl Рік тому +2

    Great video on a subject I love. Thank you!

  • @Arcboltkonrad13
    @Arcboltkonrad13 Рік тому +1

    I love the Modiphius line and I too am waiting with bated breath for a Lower Decks book but also a book centered on Star Trek Online!

  • @CallinicusHu
    @CallinicusHu Рік тому +1

    First 2d20 was Mutant Chronicles.
    Primedirective Star Fleet is not really Stek Trek.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      You're quite right about the Mutant Chronicles, that was an oversight on my part so I've dropped a correction in the video description. Thanks for calling it out.
      Fair challenge on the Starfleet universe not really being 'Star Trek'. I think thought that it still warrants inclusion in discussion around the history of Star Trek RPGs as it is founded on Star Trek concepts and background, even if it did of course develop in a completely different direction.

  • @glenndavis1245
    @glenndavis1245 Рік тому +2

    Never played any Star Trek RPGs but love your videos! You could make a "History of My Little Pony" interesting! Haha.

  • @edmundkataishi4235
    @edmundkataishi4235 Рік тому

    You missed Starships and Spacemen - perhaps the first completely playable system for TREK. There is also a plethora of other unlicensed games, including the absolutely excellent Where no Man Has Gone Before.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I was under the impression it was not an officially licensed Star Trek RPG, though you’re right I probably should have at least given it a nod

    • @edmundkataishi4235
      @edmundkataishi4235 Рік тому

      @@jordansorcery I mean neither was Starfleet Voyages... the difference being that Starships and Spacemen was far more popular, I'd argue the most popular game to play with (nobody I knew played Heritage Trek, we all had it, no one played it) in the time before FASA.
      Nowadays I'd say that there is certainly a segment of the Trek gaming community (my group included) that have checked out of the officially licensed products for what we consider "better" unlicensed, or lapsed license representations. Part of it for me is the cost inflation problem of modern games... Modiphius price points are ridiculous. I can get a new player into a fully realized, very Trek flavored game for half the price of the starter set, or even free if it's WNMHGB or Far Trek; two games which are extremely easy to run, capture the essence of the older series with great fidelity, and have lots of loving fan support.
      Even in the not-OSR type of play you have great products like Boldly Go! that offer a great, modern take on the genre, combined with modern shared story-telling aspects, in a package a fraction of the licensed rules-bloated line. And that's the key... Modiphius needs customers to keep buying book after book to maintain the licensing fee so you get an operations manual, and an alpha quadrant supplement, and a shipyards book, and on and on... in full color hardback at a price that would have bought an entire core set of the older games... these other options don't, so the additional supplements are driven by player and GM need, not investors - the very Roddenberry-esque theme of rampant capitalism.
      Unlicensed or not, the play experience is, in my opinion, more Trek for less money.
      And I have to say "Armadillo," and "BESTiary" (far improved from the worstiary) from the other video. :)

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I don’t disagree about the inherent issues with the modern business model for infinitely expandable RPGs, as well as your broader point about there being plenty of unofficial options that can be as or more immersive experiences

  • @dutchwhofian3234
    @dutchwhofian3234 Рік тому +1

    modifius announsed a lower decks book

  • @christianbrown6215
    @christianbrown6215 Рік тому +2

    I love your channel, and I was just thinking about gathering my group together to continue our 2371-set campaign, which was abortively short due to our first session being the week before lockdown in 2020.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I was lucky enough to be able to continue some campaigns online, but a few games got unfairly truncated. I’m always a fan of getting the old crew back together for another mission though!

  • @markcostello279
    @markcostello279 Рік тому +1

    Jordan, thank you for this great overview of Trek RPG history! Very cool stuff, to be sure. If you were ever interested in digging deeper into the development and history of Prime Directive 1'st edition please feel free to hit me up.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! And that would be awesome Mark, would love to chat to you about it at some point! Are you on Twitter or similar?
      Terribly sorry for the Amarillo name snafu, I’m mortified!

    • @markcostello279
      @markcostello279 Рік тому +1

      @@jordansorcery I would enjoy that very much. Are you on Discord?
      And no worries on the ABD thing. I thought it was funny as heck, and entirely apropos. 🙂

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      As of very recently I am! Username JordanSorcery

  • @mazubahtender
    @mazubahtender Рік тому +2

    My only exposure to Star Trek RPGs (and almost to Star Trek in general) have been a few streams by Wib and Longfang where they look at weird FASA ship designs.
    By the way, do you think you'll be taking a look at Star Wars RPGs or miniature games?

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Love Wib’s work and have seen the odd stream, but haven’t caught any of those starship chats, which is a shame because that sounds right up my street!
      I will definitely be looking at Star Wars RPGs at some point!

  • @paulalbamonte4756
    @paulalbamonte4756 Рік тому +1

    LUG is clearly. The best .

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      It seems like a lot of fun, I'd love to try it properly at some point!

  • @PJKP82
    @PJKP82 Рік тому +1

    So, FASA's Star Trek was kinda like WEG's Star Wars? I can respect that. Problem is that while TNG - and beyond - is great, WEG's Star Wars is better than anything Disney has generated.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I feel like West End Games created so much of the Star Wars universe, at least as I know it!

  • @wesc6755
    @wesc6755 Рік тому +2

    What a lovely channel. Peace.

  • @wildandwackywade
    @wildandwackywade Рік тому +1

    I jave three star trek games.
    One from fasa, gurps, and unicorn games which currently.trying to get a deep space nine book for.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      I can’t get enough DS9! I’ve seen the book come up on UK eBay a few times at a pretty reasonable price, thankfully the market hasn’t sky rocketed on those books yet

  • @christianbrown6215
    @christianbrown6215 Рік тому +1

    Thanks!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for the support! I really appreciate it

  • @cb3391
    @cb3391 Рік тому +1

    Good review subbed.

  • @archivis
    @archivis Рік тому

    I force you to spend the rest of your life playing treck using only the Mechwarrior RPG system set in the BattleTech universe forever. :)

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      This is some Q level trial stuff right here!

    • @archivis
      @archivis Рік тому

      @@jordansorcery have lots of old rpg systems from like of D@D except for 4th and 5e, merp, ,rolemaster, spacemaster, gurps, torg, warhammer fanrtasy roleplaY,VAmpire: the masqurade, shadowrun, champions, mechwarrriour, battletech and I was a huge Trek fan until the prequel movies destroyed trek for me. I am baffled I had never heard of any of any it baffles me.

  • @williamrockwell9705
    @williamrockwell9705 8 місяців тому

    Amarillo, as in Amarillo Texas where they are based.

  • @IOWpunkpoet
    @IOWpunkpoet 11 місяців тому

    Very interesting video, just getting into star trek adventures, have only played a little dnd and Cyberpunk so always looking for videos that help break down the gameplay better, is this something you have done?

  • @GrognardPiper
    @GrognardPiper Рік тому

    Decipher had the most open world Star Trek.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Is that in terms of the scope of the game, as in being able to go anywhere and do anything? I've found Modiphius to be pretty good at accommodating all eras and a lot of different stories as well, which has been really nice

    • @GrognardPiper
      @GrognardPiper Рік тому +1

      @@jordansorcery They all do that pretty well. I’m speaking more along the lines of having access to making all types of characters, not just Starfleet. With literally just the Players Guide and Narrator’s Guide, you can create an species, any ship or starbase, and any planet. Also, there are enough character classes to cover just about everything.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Ah got you. That’s a good point, it’s great having that much flexibility out of the box!

    • @GrognardPiper
      @GrognardPiper Рік тому +1

      @@jordansorcery I agree. Modiphius can handle it now, but you need several books to do it. Then there’s also the fact that you only need 2d6 for Decipher as opposed to handfuls of custom dice.

    • @scribe_ineti
      @scribe_ineti Рік тому +2

      @@GrognardPiper couple points of clarification: STA uses standard d20s. The custom d6s can easily be replaced with standard d6s. And you could play it with zero books and use the free online character generator to make any character, from civilian to Starfleet to Klingon and beyond.

  • @MetallicaFan1442
    @MetallicaFan1442 Рік тому

    Never played any of the Star Trek RPG's although I am a trekkie, just guess not had any friends into playing them.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      I’ve absolutely loved playing around in the Star Trek universe in RPGs - so many fun stories to tell. I’d definitely recommend it if you get the chance!

  • @PGoodmanCOG
    @PGoodmanCOG 9 місяців тому

    Ross Issacs, not Rob.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  9 місяців тому

      Thank you for pointing this out, I’m not sure how I made that mistake. I’ve now added a correction to the video description to reflect the error.

  • @wannabkain4400
    @wannabkain4400 Рік тому

    I would love to get into this but my game group isn’t into Trek besides 1 of them

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому +1

      Ah that's a shame. I've been lucky enough to have a load of fellow Trek fans in my gaming groups so there's been no trouble getting players interested, but it is such a specific type of sci-fi universe that I can understand it being difficult to drum up interest if you don't have any Trekkies nearby! Have you ever tried looking for online groups? I understand there's a pretty good community of fans playing virtually these days

    • @wannabkain4400
      @wannabkain4400 Рік тому +1

      @@jordansorcery I may do just that :) I have an local board game place by me that I could try and drum up interest in.
      Heard about a few TTRPG’s that I might try and get my friends into tho.
      Power rangers and one called lancer.
      And will look into convictor drive once it’s out for standard release.

  • @twincast2005
    @twincast2005 Рік тому

    Love the info/video just like all your others. But damn, is the BGM annoying in this one. Way too loud. And way too repetitive. One or the other might be okay, in fact going by its name, I assume it's the same BGM as in all your other videos, in which I've had zero issues with an acoustic undercurrent of soothing chimes, but the combination is excruciating.

  • @joshpotter9261
    @joshpotter9261 Рік тому

    AM-UH-REE-YO not "armadillo" turn off your bloody autocorrect!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  Рік тому

      Sadly I can’t even blame autocorrect for this one, totally my own, embarrassing mistake