9:36 IIRC there's one other piece of evidence for the unreleased and unfinished Chaos Dwarf expansion. Have a look at one of the early White Dwarf articles about original WHQ--either the first introductory article upon release, or the article about Lair of the Orc Lord. At the end of the article, there's a mention of future planned expansions. I don't have the original quote handy, but it goes something like: "Designer #1 is investigating the Land of the Dead [for Catacombs of Terror], designer #2 is exploring the sewers of blah-blah-blah [for the Skaven expansion], and designer #3 has ventured into the tunnels of Zharr-Naggrund [the Chaos Dwarf capital]."
You're showing me up here - you are dead right! Just looked it up in my copy of White Dwarf 187 and it does indeed say that Dean Bass was working on a Skavenblight pack and Andy Jones himself was tackling the Chaos Dwarves! Well, I am sorry to have missed this important detail! But thankful that you remembered it and I can now rest a little easier knowing that there is a time out there when we could have had a rat infested Quest pack!
@@jordansorcery besides the White Dwarf article mentioning it, I met Andy Jones in person several years ago, when he was a guest of honor at my local gaming convention (Kublacon) here in the US. I brought a copy of the WHQ 95 rule book for him to sign. As it turned out, I think I was the *only* person who asked him to sign anything that weekend, so we talked Warhammer Quest for 5 minutes or so and he told me that he had indeed created an entire Chaos Dwarf expansion for the game, similar to Lair of the Orc Lord, but that it never got published. So that’s first-hand confirmation for me, at least. Fortunately with Littlemonk’s extensive efforts, we have more than enough quality expansions to work with, including his Chaos Dwarf expansion, Mountains of Mayhem. It would be nice to get an hold of those original works, but at least we have alternatives. :-)
That’s awesome! I’d love to know what was in store for that pack! You’re totally right though, Little Monk in particular has given us enough ace content for another 30 years!
I’ve got to own my mistakes, couldn’t let a great bit of research like yours go to waste! I’m not surprised Quest would put all our fates on the back of a single dice roll though!
I had a bad memory of my first and only game of Hero Quest: killed by the very first enemy encountered, a miserable goblin. But with Warhammer Quest, a whole universe opened up to me! Thank you for this retrospective.
I hope this comes off as the compliment I mean it as: you have a quiet, chummy way of talking that’s a delightful contrast to how UA-cam creators often come across. I look forward to your channel growing- you’ve got something special here.
I love your coverage of these. I played HeroQuest when I was young and I had no idea about a lot of these games you’ve covered and I love learning about them. Great channel.
Thank you for taking the time to making this podcast. I several of my late friends and Old Friends played this game tell the pieces started to fall apart. I love this game and had so much fun with it. Thank you for bringing back all of those wonderful memories. Cheers keep up the good work
I wish I could go back and tell my 1995 self that I would love this. I was busy doing my PhD then and didn’t have much time for anything else. I didn’t discover GW until 40K 5th edition so I’m a relative newbie. Thanks for interesting video
Well as someone who spent their youth studying for a masters in GW I can tell you the most important thing I learned is it’s never too late to get stuck in! Plus the more recent quest games like Silver Tower and Blackstone Fortress are a little easier to find and a lot of fun in their own right!
Im a younger guy (in a sense lol), born in 1998. When we were in like 6th/7th grade there was this small gameshop that opened in our small town and they played 40k etc there and even hosted events. Those older guys there introduced us to this world and we started playing warhammer quest in 2011 at my friends garage. So much great memories 🔥 thank you for your quality video!
Found your channel through a recommendation from my old GW manager and a timely Painting Phase podcast. Really glad to find this content. My group of gaming mates still play this game regularly and have even done custom tiles and adventures to scale up for 5-6 players. It feels like there's infinite replayability. Looking forward to catching up on the rest of this channel.
The Grunsonn's Marauders short stories are next up for me. Warhammer Quest is one of my all time favorite games. I didn't realize there were short stories written. I own the Realm of Chaos paperback too but never read it. Thanks for sharing!
A few years ago I started a new job and after hearing I was a miniatures gamer one of the guys on the team told me how he’s always wanted to play Warhammer Quest and had I ever played it! I laughed and revealed yes I’d played it almost every day between 95 (or whenever release date was) and 2000! So I dug it out of storage and we played it, 7 years later it’s still getting played fairly regularly with all my gaming buddies! It’s just a great beer and pizzas game and has become a right of passage for new gamers joining the group lol
That's fantastic, would love it if I had an excuse to play it with my co-workers! I'm not surprised it's still going strong at your table, if you're anything like me it's one of those perennials that you just get an urge to play at least once a year. Sounds like you've got a great gaming group there!
What an excellent series. I'm on my second rewatch. Even though I got into GW - mostly fantasy - in '95 I never actually played Warhammer Quest, though I remember its boxes tucked away in the corner of my local GW store. I regret not getting into it at the time. Thanks for the great videos.
Thank you, really appreciate you watching and saying this! It's not easy to get hold of these days, but there are a lot of great print and play resources out there, and the odd second hand bargain every now and again too - if you get the chance to give it a play then it's really worth it, such a fun game with friends
I played Catacombs of Terror just the other week! I also had the mail order only set of Pits and Traps, sadly i sold it, although it was for over 350 pounds. So can't complain too much!!
Fantastic, Catacombs might be my favourite expansion for any game ever, just so much fun! I made the terrible mistake of selling off my near complete quest set many years ago (though I never had Pits & Traps) so I’ve been building the collection back up ever since! Sometimes the pay days are worth it, sometimes they still sting me though!
Wow. I’ve got the Pits and Traps expansion. I’ve never been tempted to sell it, but that’s a lot of money. Hrmmm. Well, if I’m ever desperate I know what I’ll put on eBay first. Lol.
I played as the elf. We did a demo qame in a branch of Games Workshop, but because we all survived we kept our characters and kept playing them at home. We also used a Heartripper Blood Bowl player as a Dark Elf assassin.
I started with heroquest, but Warhammer quest was the one who made me enter the miniature world, particularly the diorama you talked about in that video. just wow, it was amazing to explore that diorama.
I bought myself an immaculate AHQ set recently. Mainly for nostalgia reasons. I would love to pick up one of these some day! Ive never played it or seen it in the flesh.
They're not my favorite Warhammer fiction now, but those Andy Jones short stories had a huge impact on me as a kid. It's not a coincidence my first DnD group was called the Marauders.
WHQ 1995, sounds like the true successor to HQ, unfortunately I missed out on it, I’d love a re-release of this one specifically not a new version but this version, this could have been fantastic unlike cursed city.
It definitely built on a lot of HQ and really, in my opinion, perfected a lot of systems to ensure ‘replayability and expandability’, though I must admit the newer versions have still been a lot of fun!
@@jordansorcery - The most valuable part of WHQ95 was, in my opinion, the inclusion of the Roleplay book's huge load of expanded game content. Even though the core set only held minis for a few monster types, they still included the massive lists of monsters and extra game options. A rarity when it comes to such big box board games where the tendency is to drip them out, bit by bit, in expansions. I expect it was done to convince people to buy more of their minis, but I appreciated it all the same.
@@jordansorcery Thanks! I'm probably going to re-do a bunch of my older WHQ series. Those videos are old, I had terrible lighting, and didn't know what the hell I was doing. LOL. I'll probably do a Masterclass series on it, and try to condense everything down to 5 or so videos. :) I'll keep the old ones up for nostalgia. Nice to talk to you!
Thank you, really appreciate it! Yeah, that McVey diorama is just something else, so many incredible details. Honestly, I could just look at it for hours!
Loved the retrospective. Warhammer Quest was so influential for me that I went on making a whole game inspired to it a few years back called Darklight: Memento Mori. Yet my love for this game continues to inspire me and so I am currently developing a new title which spiritually borrows from it. I would love to have the input of like-minded fan such as yourself help me shape its future!
Of course we're watching the secret bits. It's what happens when you paint and watch at the same time. Great videos btw, The Warhammer Quest series was 🤌🤌🤌
I’m glad, otherwise I’m just making jokes into the void and that’s absolutely when chaos starts talking to you! Glad you enjoyed the Quest series, I really enjoyed making them!
A modern reprint of those Troll games (perhaps bundled together to cut production costs) would sell like hotcakes. Of course, you'd have to include a CD with the tunes instead of a tape cassette - or have them up as a free download somewhere. Pretty much perfect silly kids' games and an enormous nostalgia draw.
Cheers for the video - still my favourite GW release. I remember taking the family on a caravan holiday to Hastings and then making a solo trip to GW Tunbridge Wells to buy a copy of the game for the kids to play on rainy days when their arcade allowance had run out. I still have it complete but have always been reluctant to paint the minis - I wish I'd have bought a second set at the time or some of the boxes they released with a selection of the box game minis (didn't know about these until years later......). It does make you wonder if GW still have the molds for these and other classics (the plastic dragon from the Talisman expansion)......?
It was such a great family game at the same time as getting so many of on to those dangerous stairs down to 40k obsession! I loved that Talisman dragon, was always sad I never got it! That incredible looking expansion that just dominated the display window at my local store for ages
Both fantastic and well worth keeping, you’ve done well! I made the mistake of selling mine a long time ago, so ended up have to rebuild both collections over the years!
Really appreciate the comment! My friend had Battle Masters and I remember looking it as just this wildly unmanageable thing - absurdly enormous game mat! Definitely one I’m looking at for the future
@@jordansorcery i was blessed with a large living room floor when I lived with my Dad. We used to have to move the sofa and chairs to make room for it! But it was great fun!
I'm still adding miniatures to my collection, probably always will, 10 levels of monsters dont appear over night. Warhammer Quest and Space Hulk are my favourite boardgames.. are they board games? .. I dont know, but I love em.
I picked up a job-lot of Quest stuff a week ago. I originally talked my sister into getting the game (i was already neck deep in 40k) after playing it at Games Day '95 (i think) - can concur it really did get me hooked after one play! And the Roleplay book transforms it! Haven't touched any GW or other table top stuff in over 20 years, so its fun to take a peek back inside... Great video, you present really well if i may say 👌🏾 look forward to seeing more vids 👍🏾
Thank you, really appreciate you commenting and saying that! Gamesday ‘95, amazing! I’m not sure but I think ‘96 might have been my first - it felt like such a massive experience back then! The nostalgia is strong with Quest for a lot of people I think, it really straddled the line between the heavy hobby investment of the wargames and a (marginally!) lighter introductory board game. I’m glad you’ve been able to revisit it a little through the video!
A brief moment of silence for Warhammer Quest: The Adventure Card game, Death Angel, Blood Bowl Team Manager, Forbidden Stars and all the other casualties of the great GW/FF divorce.
@@jordansorcery I remember looking at CitOW expansion for myself as a birthday present years ago. "25€ for a fifth faction when I enjoy it at four? Nah". It was that very same year the expansion disappeared out of retail pricing range 😅 bit of a d'oh moment for me. Though I've since managed to convince myself that I prefer the base game card set.
I picked up a suitably ratty copy second hand and it is far from essential tbh, but I just couldn't live without paying appropriate respect to the GHR!
Good job. One of my favourite games. Though I personally found the dons could drag on sometimes and it got harder and harder to get to the table as we all got older and couldn’t have the late nights anymore
WHQ 1995 is the single most comprehensive boxed dungeon crawler ever released. I don’t think GW have released a box stuffed with so much content. The recently released DUNGEON UNIVERSALIS comes a close second but nothing else can touch it - not even GWs own follow-ups.
Couldn’t agree more! And not only that, but it was near infinitely expandable straight out of the box with all those encounter tables and monster stats right up to level 10. Sure it got silly, but the fact that you could use pretty much your entire collection was a very generous design decision
I enjoy WHQ but I always preferred Advanced Heroquest (which doesn't get much love) both games are very similar esp how quick and sudden you can die lol.
I loved a bit of AHQ, especially as it had my beloved Skaven as the baddies, but I think I was too young to really GM it properly - I remember playing it a little to confrontationally! It was great though, and definitely something I want to revisit at some point!
@@jordansorcery I played it as a youngster as well and having a vivid imagination I was drawn in. I'm easily drawn in with dungeon crawlers if they have an interesting story a d defo RPG elements 🙂👍
Super interesting stuff. I'm trying to figure out why the first level of Lost Relics is so hard. I would LOVE to see another game like Doomsday which is a 40k bookstore game that's procedurally generated. I can play it with my retired mother and it's such a great little romp each time. Loving the content. Looking forward to see what's next. Thanks Jordan. ♥
Thank you! I’ve never played Doomsday, but it looks right up my street! Most of the bookstore games, which are often hard to come by in the UK unfortunately, seem to be great little intros to the wider games
Re: difficulty of Lost Relics, are you playing hostile reactions correctly? I found the game quite difficult at first but by Adventure 3 I started questioning how I was playing it and then came across a thread on BoardGameGeek that changed how I played the hostile’s reactions which made things a lot simpler.
Saw your channel a week ago. Didn't think nothing of the name. Watched first video today. The moment you said "Jordan Sorcery" out loud.. ah my sides😂 Pun alone earns a like, but this was a fun video as well. Gonna check out the series. I never played the original, but I own the Sigmar based current gen Quest games. Fun games all, even Cursed City with all its drama.
Ha, thank you, I couldn’t get it out of my head after it first hit me! The more recent games are a change from WHQ95 for sure, but it has the same spirit and it’s tremendous fun if you ever get the chance!
Thanks! Yeah, it’s been a lifelong love for me, such a great game. Good luck with the search for a set - it can get pricey, but there’s still the occasional bargain out there!
That said, I think I would have loved Warhammer Quest, because I adored Advanced Heroquest and made loads of my own rules, tiles and stuff, but 1995 was when I went to university and discovered more worldly pleasures…. so I wasn’t aware of this game.
HeroQuest a small obscure game?! It was the game that drew me into dungeon crawlers and RPGs. It has been going strong for YEARS and has a dedicated fan base along with a dedicated fan website for over 20 years. There were seven expansions released for it. It’s so popular they just recently rereleased it 30+ years after it was first published.
@@M2Mil7er To be fair, sense of humor varies & some humor doesn't land as intended. One of my friends always tells dry jokes that absolutely _never_ land as he expects. His wife might think he's funny but I don't.
Came immediately to this video after the awesome HeroQuest one. Out of curiosity, did Warhammer Quest ever make it to the US in its original form? I don't remember seeing it on shelves, but my younger and more foolish self may very well have entirely overlooked it, or my game shop might not have stocked it.
you say you have never seen pits and traps. I found it on their Web site many many years after warhammer quest was no more. and I thought wow never knew about that so contacted GW and they had 10 left in stock. I think they were £7 ish. I bought them all and proceded to sell them on ebay and got £30 to £40 each. of course I kept one for my self. so they did indeed exist lol
I would imagine somebody already commented but you requested feedback of additional evidence of the rumored Skaven and Chaos Dwarf packs. Daniel from the Dungeon Dive, in his most recent WHQ 1995 Master Class video series reads from some White Dwarf magazines and in one of them it says that two of the content creators are off working on two specific expansions, one in the Skaven Realm, one in the Chaos Dwarf realm. Let me know if you want me to find the video and spot and I can link it to you.
Thanks for looping back round on this! Someone did drop a note in the comics that directed me to the article in White Dwarf - glad to have had it confirmed as I was sure there was more info about those lost expansions. Would have loved to tackle Skavenblight in WHQ!
@@jordansorcery Fans often have finished unpublished video games, I would hope that the same would happen for the Skaven expansion, that somewhere there is a leak of the source material and fans would compile and release it. Any leads on that?
I was looking for some Warhammer Quest Cursed City vids about the end of the line when your video was suggested to my , thanks the omnisaiah for that!, can wait for the upcoming parts. Also its a shame that GW and FFG broke their relationship so early as many of their game were great and now day they are either extremly expensive or imposible to get.
I'm glad you found me! Totally agree, all of the FFG & GW games I've played so far have been really good fun - what I wouldn't give for an official Forbidden Stars expansion!
@@jordansorcery x2 Yeah , I wanted to play the FFG Warhammer Conquest LCG as the expansions appears frecuntly on Ebay but the core set...BY CROM IT IS EXPENSIVE. And GW has not produce more economic games anyomre, maybe Underworlds but not board games.
I'm pretty sure I hadn't actually heard of OG Warhammer Quest until it was already dead. Maybe better this way, as thematic holes through canceled expansions would've been infuriating to middle school completist me.
@@jordansorcery I had done a ton of mock up cards for the Halfling thief, ogre etc. I may still have them somewhere on my old pc. they were pretty professional looking :)
In the mid 80s, I started playing AD&D. Then I played Heroquest which I considered mediocre at best. It tried to be AD&D without the annoying upkeep and roleplaying concentrating on the tactical combat. I failed spectacularly. It had so few options that you play it once and you're done with it and it did not even eliminate the need for a DM. Warhammer Quest was a spectacular tactical combat game that succeeded where HQ failed. A coop tactical combat game with many many options, a fully realized world, and no DM. It still rivals some of the ones released today.
Totally agree about WHQ! The genius of the dungeon and event cards allowing any combination/number of players just makes it so flexible. And the quality of the game really has ensured it’s still a great time even today!
@@jordansorcery shda was an ocean of text on cards all over the table plus a manual, very painful experience. A long standing life goal is to showcase the fan based content in wqacg, not sure if I ever will get to it, but there is that. I do have a problem with FFG, underlined after lotr (sold it) and AH:LCG (have it) that they are just not able to downscale their games properly, it's 4 players or too bad you die. For 2p wq I play with -1 to every spawn.
9:36 IIRC there's one other piece of evidence for the unreleased and unfinished Chaos Dwarf expansion. Have a look at one of the early White Dwarf articles about original WHQ--either the first introductory article upon release, or the article about Lair of the Orc Lord. At the end of the article, there's a mention of future planned expansions.
I don't have the original quote handy, but it goes something like: "Designer #1 is investigating the Land of the Dead [for Catacombs of Terror], designer #2 is exploring the sewers of blah-blah-blah [for the Skaven expansion], and designer #3 has ventured into the tunnels of Zharr-Naggrund [the Chaos Dwarf capital]."
You're showing me up here - you are dead right! Just looked it up in my copy of White Dwarf 187 and it does indeed say that Dean Bass was working on a Skavenblight pack and Andy Jones himself was tackling the Chaos Dwarves! Well, I am sorry to have missed this important detail! But thankful that you remembered it and I can now rest a little easier knowing that there is a time out there when we could have had a rat infested Quest pack!
@@jordansorcery besides the White Dwarf article mentioning it, I met Andy Jones in person several years ago, when he was a guest of honor at my local gaming convention (Kublacon) here in the US. I brought a copy of the WHQ 95 rule book for him to sign. As it turned out, I think I was the *only* person who asked him to sign anything that weekend, so we talked Warhammer Quest for 5 minutes or so and he told me that he had indeed created an entire Chaos Dwarf expansion for the game, similar to Lair of the Orc Lord, but that it never got published. So that’s first-hand confirmation for me, at least. Fortunately with Littlemonk’s extensive efforts, we have more than enough quality expansions to work with, including his Chaos Dwarf expansion, Mountains of Mayhem. It would be nice to get an hold of those original works, but at least we have alternatives. :-)
@@jordansorcery Argh! You pinned my comment! Now I have to stay and fight you unless I roll a 6.
... I'll get my coat
That’s awesome! I’d love to know what was in store for that pack! You’re totally right though, Little Monk in particular has given us enough ace content for another 30 years!
I’ve got to own my mistakes, couldn’t let a great bit of research like yours go to waste! I’m not surprised Quest would put all our fates on the back of a single dice roll though!
I was able to purchase "Pits and Traps" and the "Elf Ranger character pack" on eBay years back... From littlemonk.
I want to (re)own every GW product from 1993 to 1998
Entertaining little iphone game too. Decent board-screen conversation.
Yeah it was really well done, I just missed the chaotic clatter of real dice on the tabletop too much!
It really was 👍🏾
I had a bad memory of my first and only game of Hero Quest: killed by the very first enemy encountered, a miserable goblin. But with Warhammer Quest, a whole universe opened up to me! Thank you for this retrospective.
I hope this comes off as the compliment I mean it as: you have a quiet, chummy way of talking that’s a delightful contrast to how UA-cam creators often come across. I look forward to your channel growing- you’ve got something special here.
A fine compliment indeed! Thanks for the comment, really appreciate it
I love your coverage of these. I played HeroQuest when I was young and I had no idea about a lot of these games you’ve covered and I love learning about them. Great channel.
Thank you for taking the time to making this podcast. I several of my late friends and Old Friends played this game tell the pieces started to fall apart. I love this game and had so much fun with it. Thank you for bringing back all of those wonderful memories. Cheers keep up the good work
That’s lovely to hear, thank you for commenting it. Quest is a game so tied to great gaming memories for me too!
14:45 The troll under the bridge is another really nice touch there.
I wish I could go back and tell my 1995 self that I would love this. I was busy doing my PhD then and didn’t have much time for anything else. I didn’t discover GW until 40K 5th edition so I’m a relative newbie. Thanks for interesting video
Well as someone who spent their youth studying for a masters in GW I can tell you the most important thing I learned is it’s never too late to get stuck in! Plus the more recent quest games like Silver Tower and Blackstone Fortress are a little easier to find and a lot of fun in their own right!
Im a younger guy (in a sense lol), born in 1998. When we were in like 6th/7th grade there was this small gameshop that opened in our small town and they played 40k etc there and even hosted events. Those older guys there introduced us to this world and we started playing warhammer quest in 2011 at my friends garage. So much great memories 🔥 thank you for your quality video!
Found your channel through a recommendation from my old GW manager and a timely Painting Phase podcast. Really glad to find this content.
My group of gaming mates still play this game regularly and have even done custom tiles and adventures to scale up for 5-6 players. It feels like there's infinite replayability.
Looking forward to catching up on the rest of this channel.
The Grunsonn's Marauders short stories are next up for me. Warhammer Quest is one of my all time favorite games. I didn't realize there were short stories written. I own the Realm of Chaos paperback too but never read it. Thanks for sharing!
I played this and Advanced HQ for hours! It was amazing fun. The tiles were so well done. Like you said, the depth and shadow was so real.
I still can’t get over how well illustrated those tiles were. Simple yet effective. Genuinely great work
@@jordansorcery Yes. I also made some of my own. Big regrets that I threw all my old skool WH stuff away around 2003.
A few years ago I started a new job and after hearing I was a miniatures gamer one of the guys on the team told me how he’s always wanted to play Warhammer Quest and had I ever played it!
I laughed and revealed yes I’d played it almost every day between 95 (or whenever release date was) and 2000!
So I dug it out of storage and we played it, 7 years later it’s still getting played fairly regularly with all my gaming buddies! It’s just a great beer and pizzas game and has become a right of passage for new gamers joining the group lol
That's fantastic, would love it if I had an excuse to play it with my co-workers! I'm not surprised it's still going strong at your table, if you're anything like me it's one of those perennials that you just get an urge to play at least once a year. Sounds like you've got a great gaming group there!
@@jordansorcery thank you, yes I tend to find/create gamers everywhere I go lol,
What an excellent series. I'm on my second rewatch.
Even though I got into GW - mostly fantasy - in '95 I never actually played Warhammer Quest, though I remember its boxes tucked away in the corner of my local GW store.
I regret not getting into it at the time. Thanks for the great videos.
Thank you, really appreciate you watching and saying this! It's not easy to get hold of these days, but there are a lot of great print and play resources out there, and the odd second hand bargain every now and again too - if you get the chance to give it a play then it's really worth it, such a fun game with friends
I played Catacombs of Terror just the other week! I also had the mail order only set of Pits and Traps, sadly i sold it, although it was for over 350 pounds. So can't complain too much!!
Fantastic, Catacombs might be my favourite expansion for any game ever, just so much fun!
I made the terrible mistake of selling off my near complete quest set many years ago (though I never had Pits & Traps) so I’ve been building the collection back up ever since! Sometimes the pay days are worth it, sometimes they still sting me though!
Wow. I’ve got the Pits and Traps expansion. I’ve never been tempted to sell it, but that’s a lot of money. Hrmmm. Well, if I’m ever desperate I know what I’ll put on eBay first. Lol.
I've still got my Pits and Traps expansion too - I had no idea it was that rare.
I played as the elf. We did a demo qame in a branch of Games Workshop, but because we all survived we kept our characters and kept playing them at home. We also used a Heartripper Blood Bowl player as a Dark Elf assassin.
That’s awesome, love the idea of keeping the demo characters going into a full campaign. If only my elf wasn’t still at the bottom of that pit!
You always have such interesting looking games in the background. Would be awesome to see a games room tour of all your games and mini's!
I’m planning to do some videos about my hobby and process so you should get to see more of the games room in those! Soon!
8:20 I've never played the game but I remember getting those rooms in White Dwarf! Totally forgot about those until now.
Fantastic first video! I adore the WHQ franchise and so a deep dive like this is right up my alley. Excited to see more!
Me too, I've always had a lot of love for the Quest franchise, I'm excited to share some more stories!
I started with heroquest, but Warhammer quest was the one who made me enter the miniature world, particularly the diorama you talked about in that video. just wow, it was amazing to explore that diorama.
Thanks for the deep dive in WQ95. I didn't know about the short stories! Will have to try and track them down. Thanks!
I’m glad you enjoyed it and that there was something new in there! Thanks for your comment!
I bought myself an immaculate AHQ set recently. Mainly for nostalgia reasons. I would love to pick up one of these some day! Ive never played it or seen it in the flesh.
AHQ and WHQ feel so much like siblings to me. Lots in common, but then so many interesting differences!
They're not my favorite Warhammer fiction now, but those Andy Jones short stories had a huge impact on me as a kid. It's not a coincidence my first DnD group was called the Marauders.
Jumping back to and old video I've already watched to leave a like and a comment.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it!
WHQ 1995, sounds like the true successor to HQ, unfortunately I missed out on it, I’d love a re-release of this one specifically not a new version but this version, this could have been fantastic unlike cursed city.
It definitely built on a lot of HQ and really, in my opinion, perfected a lot of systems to ensure ‘replayability and expandability’, though I must admit the newer versions have still been a lot of fun!
@@jordansorcery - The most valuable part of WHQ95 was, in my opinion, the inclusion of the Roleplay book's huge load of expanded game content. Even though the core set only held minis for a few monster types, they still included the massive lists of monsters and extra game options. A rarity when it comes to such big box board games where the tendency is to drip them out, bit by bit, in expansions. I expect it was done to convince people to buy more of their minis, but I appreciated it all the same.
Nice to see more coverage of the game on UA-cam!
Thank you! I'm a big fan of your content!
@@jordansorcery Thanks! I'm probably going to re-do a bunch of my older WHQ series. Those videos are old, I had terrible lighting, and didn't know what the hell I was doing. LOL. I'll probably do a Masterclass series on it, and try to condense everything down to 5 or so videos. :) I'll keep the old ones up for nostalgia. Nice to talk to you!
Man that sounds great, I'll be looking forward to seeing those! There's so much good stuff to be said about WHQ!
I got the Traps set with the rotating bridge and T junction. Great fun in our WhQ and Dungeonbowl games at the time!!
FYI - Pits and Traps was published long after official support had finished, in 2000, from the ‘specialist games/fanatic’ imprint and mail order only!
It's interesting how many mail order exclusives there seem to have been over the years! I'd love to get hold of a real copy of it, it's a fun set!
@@jordansorcery great comprehensive video btw! Stumbled across the channel a couple of days ago and loving the content!
Awesome video!! One of my favorite games of all. That diorama is so absurdly good. 💪🙂
Thank you, really appreciate it! Yeah, that McVey diorama is just something else, so many incredible details. Honestly, I could just look at it for hours!
Thank you for this video and all informations. Looking forward for new episodes ;-)
Loved the retrospective.
Warhammer Quest was so influential for me that I went on making a whole game inspired to it a few years back called Darklight: Memento Mori. Yet my love for this game continues to inspire me and so I am currently developing a new title which spiritually borrows from it. I would love to have the input of like-minded fan such as yourself help me shape its future!
Great video! I still have the HeroQuest I had as a kid (also had the advanced one) but NEVER had anyone to play with!
I strongly relate! I used to set up endless HeroQuest boards on the dining room floor just for fun, because my brothers refused to play with me!
Of course we're watching the secret bits. It's what happens when you paint and watch at the same time.
Great videos btw, The Warhammer Quest series was 🤌🤌🤌
I’m glad, otherwise I’m just making jokes into the void and that’s absolutely when chaos starts talking to you! Glad you enjoyed the Quest series, I really enjoyed making them!
awesome, stoked for pt 2 and pt 3
A modern reprint of those Troll games (perhaps bundled together to cut production costs) would sell like hotcakes. Of course, you'd have to include a CD with the tunes instead of a tape cassette - or have them up as a free download somewhere. Pretty much perfect silly kids' games and an enormous nostalgia draw.
Nowadays they'd make an obligatory companion app for it.
Fantastic video! I hadn't heard of Deathblow magazine before so thanks for that. Can't wait for the next part!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Cheers for the video - still my favourite GW release. I remember taking the family on a caravan holiday to Hastings and then making a solo trip to GW Tunbridge Wells to buy a copy of the game for the kids to play on rainy days when their arcade allowance had run out. I still have it complete but have always been reluctant to paint the minis - I wish I'd have bought a second set at the time or some of the boxes they released with a selection of the box game minis (didn't know about these until years later......).
It does make you wonder if GW still have the molds for these and other classics (the plastic dragon from the Talisman expansion)......?
It was such a great family game at the same time as getting so many of on to those dangerous stairs down to 40k obsession!
I loved that Talisman dragon, was always sad I never got it! That incredible looking expansion that just dominated the display window at my local store for ages
Still have all my Warhammer Quest & Hero Quest sets. ⚔️
Both fantastic and well worth keeping, you’ve done well! I made the mistake of selling mine a long time ago, so ended up have to rebuild both collections over the years!
"A Green and Pustulant Land" cracked me up (WHQ material at 11:25). I wish GW still had that sense of humour.
So many fun puns and bits of silly word play, I love it!
I would love a video on Battle Masters.
Keep up the good work.
Really appreciate the comment! My friend had Battle Masters and I remember looking it as just this wildly unmanageable thing - absurdly enormous game mat! Definitely one I’m looking at for the future
@@jordansorcery i was blessed with a large living room floor when I lived with my Dad. We used to have to move the sofa and chairs to make room for it!
But it was great fun!
I miss having the space (and knees!) to play all day games that took up the entire living room floor!
Keep these deep dives coming, Jordan!
Plenty on the way!
Great video. Looking forward to part 2!
I'm still adding miniatures to my collection, probably always will, 10 levels of monsters dont appear over night. Warhammer Quest and Space Hulk are my favourite boardgames.. are they board games? .. I dont know, but I love em.
I love them both too! True classics. There’s a good argument that they’re board games as much as they’re anything else, if you ask me
I picked up a job-lot of Quest stuff a week ago. I originally talked my sister into getting the game (i was already neck deep in 40k) after playing it at Games Day '95 (i think) - can concur it really did get me hooked after one play! And the Roleplay book transforms it!
Haven't touched any GW or other table top stuff in over 20 years, so its fun to take a peek back inside...
Great video, you present really well if i may say 👌🏾 look forward to seeing more vids 👍🏾
Thank you, really appreciate you commenting and saying that!
Gamesday ‘95, amazing! I’m not sure but I think ‘96 might have been my first - it felt like such a massive experience back then!
The nostalgia is strong with Quest for a lot of people I think, it really straddled the line between the heavy hobby investment of the wargames and a (marginally!) lighter introductory board game. I’m glad you’ve been able to revisit it a little through the video!
A brief moment of silence for Warhammer Quest: The Adventure Card game, Death Angel, Blood Bowl Team Manager, Forbidden Stars and all the other casualties of the great GW/FF divorce.
A great loss to us all, I doff my hat to Chaos in the Old World
@@jordansorcery I remember looking at CitOW expansion for myself as a birthday present years ago. "25€ for a fifth faction when I enjoy it at four? Nah".
It was that very same year the expansion disappeared out of retail pricing range 😅 bit of a d'oh moment for me. Though I've since managed to convince myself that I prefer the base game card set.
I picked up a suitably ratty copy second hand and it is far from essential tbh, but I just couldn't live without paying appropriate respect to the GHR!
Good job. One of my favourite games. Though I personally found the dons could drag on sometimes and it got harder and harder to get to the table as we all got older and couldn’t have the late nights anymore
Yeah, I share that frustration! Real life has definitely gotten in the way of table time over the years, but it’s still worth it when it happens!
That Skaven mechanic 🥹 omg
Right?!
WHQ 1995 is the single most comprehensive boxed dungeon crawler ever released. I don’t think GW have released a box stuffed with so much content. The recently released DUNGEON UNIVERSALIS comes a close second but nothing else can touch it - not even GWs own follow-ups.
Couldn’t agree more! And not only that, but it was near infinitely expandable straight out of the box with all those encounter tables and monster stats right up to level 10. Sure it got silly, but the fact that you could use pretty much your entire collection was a very generous design decision
I enjoy WHQ but I always preferred Advanced Heroquest (which doesn't get much love) both games are very similar esp how quick and sudden you can die lol.
I loved a bit of AHQ, especially as it had my beloved Skaven as the baddies, but I think I was too young to really GM it properly - I remember playing it a little to confrontationally! It was great though, and definitely something I want to revisit at some point!
@@jordansorcery I played it as a youngster as well and having a vivid imagination I was drawn in. I'm easily drawn in with dungeon crawlers if they have an interesting story a d defo RPG elements 🙂👍
Great video. I remember these coming out, but never played.
Well worth a go if you ever get the chance, they’re tremendous fun!
Saw that a skaven mechanic mini sold on ebay (US) for £75! Would like to play this game but wow it looks expensive to pick up now
For such an adorable little guy it might be worth it!
@@jordansorcery i think the best option is kitbash it using a cluedo set
Amazing video! Thanks a lot!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Keanu the Reaver. I need to make this character in my D&D game...
Thanks for this video means a lot
Thank you for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it
Super interesting stuff. I'm trying to figure out why the first level of Lost Relics is so hard. I would LOVE to see another game like Doomsday which is a 40k bookstore game that's procedurally generated. I can play it with my retired mother and it's such a great little romp each time.
Loving the content. Looking forward to see what's next. Thanks Jordan. ♥
Thank you! I’ve never played Doomsday, but it looks right up my street! Most of the bookstore games, which are often hard to come by in the UK unfortunately, seem to be great little intros to the wider games
Re: difficulty of Lost Relics, are you playing hostile reactions correctly? I found the game quite difficult at first but by Adventure 3 I started questioning how I was playing it and then came across a thread on BoardGameGeek that changed how I played the hostile’s reactions which made things a lot simpler.
A very nice video, looking much forward to part 2 and.... ;)
Thanks! Parts 2 & 3 (and plenty more fun stuff) coming soon!
3:30 - I'm a simple guy; I see a UA-camr make a pun and then make a self-deprecating joke, I hit that Subscribe button.
You’ve come to the right place!
Oooohhh will be watching this series. First one a great one mate. Well done.
Thank you! Glad to hear you enjoyed part 1!
Saw your channel a week ago. Didn't think nothing of the name. Watched first video today. The moment you said "Jordan Sorcery" out loud.. ah my sides😂
Pun alone earns a like, but this was a fun video as well. Gonna check out the series. I never played the original, but I own the Sigmar based current gen Quest games. Fun games all, even Cursed City with all its drama.
Ha, thank you, I couldn’t get it out of my head after it first hit me! The more recent games are a change from WHQ95 for sure, but it has the same spirit and it’s tremendous fun if you ever get the chance!
Damn. RIP Pit Elf XD
It still torments me!
Great job! Waiting for more!
Thank you!
I bought this in '95, painted a couple of rats, and it's been sat in a cupboard at my parents' house ever since.
Sounds like they’ve got a literal treasure chest in the cupboard!
Can't wait to see more!
I’m glad! Plenty more to come!
Still have my halfling thief that I got from mail order
Outstanding!
Great video. I loved Warhammer quest as a kid and I’d love to find a complete set now
Thanks! Yeah, it’s been a lifelong love for me, such a great game. Good luck with the search for a set - it can get pricey, but there’s still the occasional bargain out there!
Great vid!
Thank you!
Nice video! Thx!!!
Oi! Dat’s my leg! The Troll Games are the best GW games ever. Period. I will flick gobbo snot in the eye of anyone who says otherwise.
That said, I think I would have loved Warhammer Quest, because I adored Advanced Heroquest and made loads of my own rules, tiles and stuff, but 1995 was when I went to university and discovered more worldly pleasures…. so I wasn’t aware of this game.
HeroQuest a small obscure game?! It was the game that drew me into dungeon crawlers and RPGs. It has been going strong for YEARS and has a dedicated fan base along with a dedicated fan website for over 20 years. There were seven expansions released for it. It’s so popular they just recently rereleased it 30+ years after it was first published.
Quite right! I'm just being a little jealous as the re-release looks great and Warhammer Quest hasn't had it as good the past couple of years!
What is deadpan humour?
@@bigbloke2000 maybe he's on The Spectrum, at the point where dry humour doesn't register, and is taken literally.
@@M2Mil7er To be fair, sense of humor varies & some humor doesn't land as intended. One of my friends always tells dry jokes that absolutely _never_ land as he expects. His wife might think he's funny but I don't.
Joke.
Came immediately to this video after the awesome HeroQuest one. Out of curiosity, did Warhammer Quest ever make it to the US in its original form? I don't remember seeing it on shelves, but my younger and more foolish self may very well have entirely overlooked it, or my game shop might not have stocked it.
I was under the impression it did get a US release, but it’s often tough to verify how widespread these things were!
@@jordansorcery Fair enough, sir, and thanks! I'll poke around and see what I can find on my own.
Great Content..Subbed!
Thank you!
wellingtons for mud legs
Nicely done!
Thank you! I love your work, very much an inspiration for me getting my love for Quest out there!
Great stuff!
Thanks!
8:50 Wait, that was unreleased? I knew a guy who had a half dozen of the things. Dammit, why didn't I trade for one? Arrrgh.
I’m still very much hoping to come across one at some point!
you say you have never seen pits and traps. I found it on their Web site many many years after warhammer quest was no more. and I thought wow never knew about that so contacted GW and they had 10 left in stock. I think they were £7 ish. I bought them all and proceded to sell them on ebay and got £30 to £40 each. of course I kept one for my self. so they did indeed exist lol
So basically, Andy Jones is the greatest person who ever lived. Understood!
I would imagine somebody already commented but you requested feedback of additional evidence of the rumored Skaven and Chaos Dwarf packs.
Daniel from the Dungeon Dive, in his most recent WHQ 1995 Master Class video series reads from some White Dwarf magazines and in one of them it says that two of the content creators are off working on two specific expansions, one in the Skaven Realm, one in the Chaos Dwarf realm.
Let me know if you want me to find the video and spot and I can link it to you.
Thanks for looping back round on this! Someone did drop a note in the comics that directed me to the article in White Dwarf - glad to have had it confirmed as I was sure there was more info about those lost expansions. Would have loved to tackle Skavenblight in WHQ!
@@jordansorcery Fans often have finished unpublished video games, I would hope that the same would happen for the Skaven expansion, that somewhere there is a leak of the source material and fans would compile and release it. Any leads on that?
I’ve not seen anything to suggest it’s out there, but one lives in hope!
@@jordansorcery In the interim, it looks like LittleMonk has created his own Skaven and Chaos Dwarf expansions.
Littlemonk’s Skaven adventures are great from what I’ve read so far, I’d love to get them to the table at some point!
man like jervis
I was looking for some Warhammer Quest Cursed City vids about the end of the line when your video was suggested to my , thanks the omnisaiah for that!, can wait for the upcoming parts.
Also its a shame that GW and FFG broke their relationship so early as many of their game were great and now day they are either extremly expensive or imposible to get.
I'm glad you found me! Totally agree, all of the FFG & GW games I've played so far have been really good fun - what I wouldn't give for an official Forbidden Stars expansion!
@@jordansorcery x2
Yeah , I wanted to play the FFG Warhammer Conquest LCG as the expansions appears frecuntly on Ebay but the core set...BY CROM IT IS EXPENSIVE.
And GW has not produce more economic games anyomre, maybe Underworlds but not board games.
I know that pain! I never got a chance to try Conquest, it looks like great fun though!
@@jordansorcery there are a couple of gameplays on YT and looks incredible but GW seems to never going to return there.
I'm pretty sure I hadn't actually heard of OG Warhammer Quest until it was already dead. Maybe better this way, as thematic holes through canceled expansions would've been infuriating to middle school completist me.
I own pits and traps :)
I’m jealous!
@@jordansorcery I had done a ton of mock up cards for the Halfling thief, ogre etc. I may still have them somewhere on my old pc. they were pretty professional looking :)
great video, thanks. please make more content like this
Thank you! Don't worry, I've got you covered - plenty more content on the way!
In the mid 80s, I started playing AD&D. Then I played Heroquest which I considered mediocre at best. It tried to be AD&D without the annoying upkeep and roleplaying concentrating on the tactical combat. I failed spectacularly. It had so few options that you play it once and you're done with it and it did not even eliminate the need for a DM. Warhammer Quest was a spectacular tactical combat game that succeeded where HQ failed. A coop tactical combat game with many many options, a fully realized world, and no DM. It still rivals some of the ones released today.
Totally agree about WHQ! The genius of the dungeon and event cards allowing any combination/number of players just makes it so flexible. And the quality of the game really has ensured it’s still a great time even today!
17:42 only interested in WQACG. I found SHDA a load of crap.
I didn’t mind Death Angel, but I didn’t play a lot of it really. The Adventure Card Game on the other hand has been a regular - it’s just so much fun!
@@jordansorcery shda was an ocean of text on cards all over the table plus a manual, very painful experience.
A long standing life goal is to showcase the fan based content in wqacg, not sure if I ever will get to it, but there is that.
I do have a problem with FFG, underlined after lotr (sold it) and AH:LCG (have it) that they are just not able to downscale their games properly, it's 4 players or too bad you die. For 2p wq I play with -1 to every spawn.
Wizard is a job description, barbarian is a lifestyle, dwarf is a derogatory term, and elf is a sexual orientation. There you go!
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