For anyone having an issue where the mouse doesnt work, try launching the game as Admin! EDIT: I believe he has posted a new version - grandprix2.racing/file/misc/view/x86gp2
@@GPLaps Yeah i can right click, and setup the wheel and controls etc - just can't get left click to register on the ok button :( Left click works in the option screens too - will figure it out!
@@BigJuffer I am having the same issue. I can right click and setup all of the controls and things but when I try to click on the ok button nothing happens.
@@DEVILTAZ35yeah - it was a shame that it wasn’t released. It was about 2-3 months away. Studio was closed down. The end of the GP series with it. Really great to see it still being played today and the awesome support and interest of the community
In that case maybe you can let me know if my guess is correct. To my knowledge the physics engine was in big parts in assembler (I think I remember a Geoff crammond interview where he said it, but I do not remember which one, but I am inclined all of them were based on the original one) and that makes it so hard to port to other systems. Also a shame Xbox never made it. Sorry about all the work that did not pay of. Also would have been nice to have a stable gp4, it is so crash prone in modern windows :(
There is no way to describe how incredible sim racing was in the 1990's to someone who did not experience it. To, all of a sudden, be able to do these things on a home PC was mind blowing. I understand younger people seeing this and comparing it to what we have today, seeing it as crude and not so impressive. The main reason I sometimes get jaded on today's sims is simply the fact that no future racing sim will ever again be released in my lifetime that will blow me away like these sims did in the 1990's.
Wow, finally moving steering wheel and visible front tires! It's the only thing that was missing in GP2, a true milestone of sim racing. This mod seems to bring GP2 back to life and show it was and still is a really great game! So many memories and so many hours spent playing it, thanks for the video I think I will install this and re-live the old days.
16:47 - you mention wheel-to-wheel AI racing there, and I've just recalled a distinct memory, though related to the first Grand Prix game. I once launched AI race at Estoril without participating and noticed how often they would drive wheel-to-wheel in parallel battling for position at the final long right-hander. Somewhat similar to Indycars on ovals, yet I thought - at that place, that's completely unrealistic! Now imagine my surprise, when in 1996 Villeneuve passed Schumacher at Estoril AT THE SAME PLACE, IN THE SAME MANNER - from the outside! That was just jaw-dropping!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🙏🏻😊 I spent a lot of hours with GP2 in my early age, I think I'll return back to it! It looks pretty awesome 😎 with the wheels and rotating steering wheel and wide-screen and wow, it looks amazing... And the sound....❤
My god........awesome, Aubrey Windle released GPEdit back in the day (For GP2 and GP3 iirc) , I spent months editing the physics and performance databases to make team relative performance and driver performances which were very close to real life...it was my entry into race game modding actually.
VR support would be absoluetly great! I do race in VR and its an absolute game changer. I would love to use VR in this game, and relive my childhood the way id imagined it
So I have to say, great video. This is the main game I remember getting me into sim racing. I love indycar 2 and the all the grand prix series. I also remember trying to play on keyboard and then eventually getting my first wheel. The Thrustmaster (bungie cord FFB) wheel. Now being 53 i am still simracing but now on triple screens. Keep up the great work. You give me ideas for my small channel(for fun) on my next video. Cheers.
A lot of it is to do with how awful the F1 and other EA games have become. You can race these cars in other Sims of course and even do a championship (AC, AMS2) but there's an atmosphere in these specific games that the modern games completely miss.
I was so fond of this game when I was a kid. We got a Thrustmaster 2 wheel with it at xmas. Really looking forward to playing again! Would love to see a live stream season. Thanks GPL!
LFG!! With the possible exception of Geoff Crammond’s original 1991-based Formula One Grand Prix, on my Atari ST in 1992, Grand Prix 2 still has my most hours played in any sim ever. I completed multiple full length race championship seasons with it - due to the series’ awesome _save and resume at any point_ feature.
@@GregzVR same for me! I am a multiple world champion with different teams 😎 we used to play it with my childhood friend in that swapping multiplayer mode, that was pretty awesome!!! We spent countless hours with GP2 especially during summer holidays. Qualifying in the morning with race in the afternoon, off course 100% race distance!
I played this game so much at the time, it is fantastic to see it is still updated today, such a fun game from the golden era of PC games and Microprose.
Thanks for posting this! I just did a few quick races and it was like the old times!Gp2 means the world to me and I played it with all kinds of carsets and tracks well into the 2000's. It was also a very important teacher of motorsports history, which was always my favorite part about racing. Suddenly I could play as Fittipaldi, Stewart or the rocket men of the turbo era! Then I experienced what you say in the beginning: with newer hardware I could never get it to work properly. This is REALLY cool!
@towserfm I did back in the day.. my Brother who sadly passed away back in 2013 mastered Grand Prix 4 on the keyboard..he would test..do full practice, Qualifying and the race.. great memories! I'm interested in the mods you were playing on GP2 as you mentioned Stewart and Fittipaldi? 😊
I never thought seeing a steering wheel in GP2 move and rotate would blow my mind but here we are. Gonna have to look out my copy of GP2 later and give this a try. Would love to see you do a full season on this game someday Jake the Indycar 2 stuff is a fun watch!
I saw this in Ted Meat's channel as well where you replied! ;-) GP2 is still in it's original box, lying in a storage container somewhere our house. I feel like i should get it out and try this. Back then my pc could not run this and i never really got to playing it the way i wanted. It's like this has always been a "trauma" for me so this new thing could be my "therapy".
This is just awesome. I actually still have a Pentium 2 266 with a Riva TNT 2 ultra and a Voodoo 2 card with Awe 32 sound card. I used to often just run this game in demo mode and watch the race play out after crashing out just to see who would win. These games were way ahead of their time. Crammond is a genius.
Wide-screen GP2 🎉 , this game and even GP1 still has better AI than current games that will actually race you wheel to wheel and not give up after you have overtaken then. I still the GP game for that reason. Looking forward to more updates on this one.
I remember 4 years ago I was obsessed with everthing f1 1994 and wanted to play this game so bad considering it was honestly the best simulation of the '94 season you could really get, not many mods for rf or ac. I swear I watched like every video on the internet about the stock game
As someone who was born way after the GP games this is a perfect opportunity for me to try Grand Prix 2, I've been wanting to visit the older Grand Prix games as I've only played GP4, and I've also played other older sim racing games like Nascar Racing 2003, GP Legends, F1 Challenge 99-02, and I have a huge appreciation and love for the older titles as they just are not the same anymore, modern F1 games the cars feel like literal tanks to drive, where in F1 Challenge or GP4 its very twitchy and any small mistake can cause a fatal crash.
This was great!! Me and a friend would play this all of the time back when this came out. I would love to see you do a full season video. I still have my original install disk and am installing it now!
Its nice to see the 94 cars in all their glory - obviously given the tragedy in this season IRL, its not a year most developers and modders want to touch - but the x86 version really does feel like a whole new game. Highlights just how ahead of his time Geoff Crammond was, and how little progress with AI racing has actually been made in nearly 30 years.
34:13 Its a Larrousse! Not sure if GP2 has drivers for each race, but if it did, that's Hideki Noda, however Olivier Beretta did the most races in that car.
Yes it's Beretta, and his team mate is Erik Comas. I did a full ace season as Comas, with traction control, and it was fun because I chose this car knowing it's the car that has the highest failure probability. I had a failure in more than 50% of the races. The car that Jake overtook first was the Pacific of Gachot
I definitely gotta get this! I probably still have the original install disk for GP2 somewhere… (although not needed i guess) I played GP2 soooooo much in the ‘90s, probably one of the only games I played 😅 So many fond memories, playing the ‘turn based’ 2 player with my best mate after school, doing full seasons etc and all on keyboard as wheels weren’t really a thing yet, although I remember my dad one day came home with a wheel he borrowed from a colleague and I played GP2 for the first time ever with a wheel, it did have some ‘force’ but definitely no ‘feedback’ iirc but it’s been like 30 years ago by now…
I guess Santa was still around. 2 great gifts yesterday! F1GP and GP2 ran like a thread through my youth. Got GP2 running again in 2016 thanks to Dosbox and started in 1988 and eventually finished the 2019 season in 2020. Now I mod the crap out of GP4. But it's great to see the revival of these games. Especially the moving wheels and steering wheel were features I really missed in those days. Would be great if the can make the AI defend there positions like they do in GP4. Nevertheless I watched the whole 50 minutes with a smile on my face. So do that full season Jake! 👊
This game and Indycar 2 has so many memories for me from the 90s, that I cannot even describe. I still play both to this very day, stoked to see that more and more advancements are being made to enjoy these old gems on modern machines.
The Speed channel was originally called Speedvision. I remember the first time I saw it was when they offered it as a free view weekend back in 1999, they were airing an old show called Car and Track with Bud Lindemann, which would have footage from 60s and 70s NASCAR races. They also showed a lot more niche racing back then like various touring cars series. When it became the Speed channel it went downhill fast.
Brilliant video. I remember buying GP2 at launch and grappling to get an old Epson PC to run it. The highest graphics settings with all street furniture, mirrors etc was only ever a pipe dream back then if I wanted a playable frame rate. How times have changed. I might have to invest in a decent gaming rig as the modding community is doing amazing things with sports games I grew up with. Cheers.
Fantastic!! I still have the Amiga box version displayed on a shelf in my games room. I also have many of the original F1 photos used by Microprose in the game manual.
This is so awesome, it just shows how many people want a proper single player, immersive racing sim, that we get excited for updates to 30 year old ones. It isn't really happening with modern sims. I don't think Ted mentioned this either, so I think it's worth noting that this needs the US version of GP2 to run. This caught me out as I've only ever had the UK version. Looking forward to seeing where this goes, for mod content, and for Jake and Ted's channels.
Driver aggression is same across all drivers. You can tune the following through the GPedit utility: Team (cars): - Engine power in qualifying - Engine power in a race - Reliability Driver: - Qualifying grip - Race grip - Variation from the settings above This way you can have pretty realistic carsets that reflect the performance difference between drivers, as well as possible fluctuations of each driver performance throughout the season.
This is what I've been dreaming of for so long! This game as well as IndyCar Racing have defined my life and career. Hopefully this and ICR2 Rendition come to full potential. AMS2 is fun and all, but these games are so complete, it's totally immersive and that's most important to me. GP2x86 makes it even more complete. Would be awesome if you'd do a full season of this some time.
Thanks for great video! I have small kids now and cannot fully commit to iRacing anymore due to lack of time. So I'm searching for some good sims that i can play offline when i have a bit of free time. I mostly grew up on NR2003 so playing this mostly now, but this GP2 looks amazing. I probably played it as little kid back in the day but could not appreciate it at the time. New sims mostly lack interesting racing/season play against AI so getting into these older sims seems like way to go. Downloading GP2 mod now and looking forward to trying it out thanks to you.
I used to print out the starting grids and timings as a kid :D And my racing setup was a desk chair with two wheel removed so it leaned as far back possible, with the peddles on a wooden crate. And the steering wheel i used was a Microsoft Sidewinder Precision Racing Wheel, later on i get the Force Feedback version of it. I still got my boxed copy, with a floppy disk inside with modding files on it, sadly i don't have a floppy drive to look at it anymore.
Would love to see you do a full season in this. Agree though, you'll probably want to wait for mod support, get the proper sponsors on the cars etc. From memory I think weather got cut from the game at a late stage because they struggled to get it working properly. I remember as a kid it took me about 3 months to notice as I assumed I just got lucky with the weather. It was a shame it got cut as I loved the spray effect in GP1.
Just from this gameplay, the car seems so satisfying to drive, as if it would scratch an itch. Think it might have something to do with the increase in fps and the decrease in input lag
Man this brings back memories. GP2 was my very first PC game! Countless hours went into that. When internet at school became a thing I obtained gp2edit with a floppy disk and then the gates opened.😂 I always thought i was good enough to win the championship in a Simtek only to find out that there was a "players car" with insane stats that you were given no matter which team you ran for.
There's a whole fascinating discussion around why we like old games. Ultimately I think its because we are all getting old! I was 9 in the 1994 season and this game was mindblowing to a 10/11 year old. I think the games are not better or worse than modern ones, relative to their time. However, the nostalgia hit is as much about trying to recapture that feeling. In many ways we are blessed with sims and games, becasue the generation before us don't necessarily have the resources available to recapture their wholly non digital life experience. But our generation CAN capture a fleeting glimpse of that joy through these games once again. In that way we are blessed, and its why I love 90s games - especially as I approach 40. Also - yes please for a Ryan Axleson crossover!
Loved GP2 and especially GP4. I don’t know how many hours I spent finding the perfect Monza setup. 8-10 laps run, back to the pits, check telemetry, tweak one or two things, and start all over again.
That's fantastic! It was the first game I ever bought with my own money. Looks great! About the wet weather, it was present in GP1 but I don't really know why GP2 is dry only. Probably some limitation. I've seen some attempts to emulate it but not sucessfully, at least so far.
Fabulous, loved the first Geoff Cramond game and GP2 did not disappoint. As you correctly pointed out the racing dynamics were so good back then, mechanical retirements, accidents caused by the computer controlled cars and debris the game well it had it all. Please do an F1 season you will provide us with so much entertainment and if it's as good as I remember you'll get a great kick out of it. But please don't take Berger's seat maybe the 2nd Benetton seat 🙂
Never had a wheel to play GP1 thru GP4, hads friends that did, I was just so used to keyboard play Crammonds' Sims were well ahead of the times, in so many ways, they also required system specs that were well ahead of the hardware available at launch
one of my fondest memories of Gran Prix 3 was starting out in a Minardi and doing like 2 laps before I had massive smoke coming out the back and the gearbox had exploded. No modern game does that and I think it's a real shame
You should have stayed in 2nd gear at the Schumacher corner. I drive it in 2nd too but it's a bit tricky corner because it's not flat. Coincidentally, my last upload is a race in Adelaide too, the last race of my championship as Alesi
I play a lot of Crammond's Revs, so I'm not surprised to hear you praise the AI in his games. Revs is so good I've still not graduated to his GP games 😅. Maybe 2025 will be the year I discover 1990s racing sims.
I still have the original Microsoft Force feedback joystick . I can’t remember If that worked with these games or not. The force feedback on that thing is amazing though. I used to love it with helicopter simulators. As far as I know it still works. It has been packed in a box for years and years.
Ah this brings back memories 😊 Another great video and would love to watch a season…how about Richie being dropped into the McLaren team as a replacement for Michael Andretti? Given the disappointment of his ‘93 season in F1, would make a cool narrative don’t you think 🤔
I played this game on both the keyboard and a joystick as a boy 🙂I used to add lots of custom old tracks and edit the cars and drivers, I'd simulate seasons; I had a great time.
Love to see a full season of this. Are there any plans to complete the Richie Axelson 66 season? IIRC that only got as far as Italy last time I looked.
This is great! But I got the same stupid problem as someone in the forums: "Sorry to say this, but I can't pass the initial screen. I set up controller, full screen and other options but I'm unable to pass the OK button." Game requires my G27 to be plugged in before the game starts for detection. OK button requires my G27 to NOT be plugged in for it to work.
This definitely needs a more in-depth installation tutorial. The forum is no help since its registration is dead (not even the author was able to signup which is hilarious) and the info there that it needs the US version may be false, since I downloaded the EU version from one of the most famous links (probably shouldn't link it here but everyone will probably come across it) and I got to get the game running and access the settings from the right-click menu, but couldn't get past the initial message, as many are reporting. I got a US version from another popular link and didn't even get the game to run, but will try other versions available and return if anything changes.
Jake's going like "how can the same $h!# happen to the same guy twice" as the Ferrari finds out the Williams' secret oil slick dispenser to its cost!🤣 This was a great game back in the day, and this port continues its rich legacy! I'd love to see Ryan Axelson jump across the water to try out F1 some time soon.
i remember modding GP2 on my old pc ... such great times bc it was still 32bit windows .... but finally u can play it on modern systems without dosbox ... i hope there will be modding again xdd
I was thrilled to try this out but I can't get any further than the first menu screen of the game (where it says WARNING: PUBLIC ALPHA RELEASE! and Written by: Geoff Crammond etc). Clicking the OK button does nothing but I can right click to bring up the Options/Accelerate Time menu. Please can anyone help me? I'm desperate to play this game once again. I still have my original big box copy of the original game but haven't been able to play it for 20+ years.
For anyone having an issue where the mouse doesnt work, try launching the game as Admin!
EDIT: I believe he has posted a new version - grandprix2.racing/file/misc/view/x86gp2
Hmmm i've tried that a few times. Will keep persisting!
@bigJuffer are you able to right click when it launches? I wonder if you first have to set it to controller?
@@GPLaps Yeah i can right click, and setup the wheel and controls etc - just can't get left click to register on the ok button :(
Left click works in the option screens too - will figure it out!
@@BigJuffer I am having the same issue. I can right click and setup all of the controls and things but when I try to click on the ok button nothing happens.
@@reidtaylor2764 Will let you know if I find out how to get around it!
I worked with Geoff on GP3 and GP4 at Microprose. Developed the games graphics engine. Good memories.
you. you serious?
@@ScootDaVoot yes - around 1999-2002. Also worked on the XBOX GP4 version which unfortunately was never released
@@fireescaper8672That is awesome. I would have loved to see an Xbox version. How close to release did it get?
@@DEVILTAZ35yeah - it was a shame that it wasn’t released. It was about 2-3 months away. Studio was closed down. The end of the GP series with it. Really great to see it still being played today and the awesome support and interest of the community
In that case maybe you can let me know if my guess is correct. To my knowledge the physics engine was in big parts in assembler (I think I remember a Geoff crammond interview where he said it, but I do not remember which one, but I am inclined all of them were based on the original one) and that makes it so hard to port to other systems.
Also a shame Xbox never made it. Sorry about all the work that did not pay of. Also would have been nice to have a stable gp4, it is so crash prone in modern windows :(
There is no way to describe how incredible sim racing was in the 1990's to someone who did not experience it. To, all of a sudden, be able to do these things on a home PC was mind blowing. I understand younger people seeing this and comparing it to what we have today, seeing it as crude and not so impressive. The main reason I sometimes get jaded on today's sims is simply the fact that no future racing sim will ever again be released in my lifetime that will blow me away like these sims did in the 1990's.
Wow, finally moving steering wheel and visible front tires! It's the only thing that was missing in GP2, a true milestone of sim racing. This mod seems to bring GP2 back to life and show it was and still is a really great game! So many memories and so many hours spent playing it, thanks for the video I think I will install this and re-live the old days.
I remember being shocked as a kid when i crashed into the side of Damon and split his car in half.
Michael? Michael Schumacher? Is that you?
@@demonicsquid7217 😆😆😆
I think Indy 500 was the game that really shocked me at first with car bits flying everywhere lol
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@@DEVILTAZ35that's true! I was shocked with the crash model of that game, that was something special in that era! 😮
Great to see GP Laps doing GP Laps in GP2. Love your channel, looking forward to a great 2025.
16:47 - you mention wheel-to-wheel AI racing there, and I've just recalled a distinct memory, though related to the first Grand Prix game. I once launched AI race at Estoril without participating and noticed how often they would drive wheel-to-wheel in parallel battling for position at the final long right-hander. Somewhat similar to Indycars on ovals, yet I thought - at that place, that's completely unrealistic! Now imagine my surprise, when in 1996 Villeneuve passed Schumacher at Estoril AT THE SAME PLACE, IN THE SAME MANNER - from the outside! That was just jaw-dropping!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🙏🏻😊 I spent a lot of hours with GP2 in my early age, I think I'll return back to it! It looks pretty awesome 😎 with the wheels and rotating steering wheel and wide-screen and wow, it looks amazing... And the sound....❤
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
My god........awesome, Aubrey Windle released GPEdit back in the day (For GP2 and GP3 iirc) , I spent months editing the physics and performance databases to make team relative performance and driver performances which were very close to real life...it was my entry into race game modding actually.
Do you still have those files? :-)
I used to create carshapes. It also was the first community around simracing for me. Great times.
Back in those times there were websites dedicated to GP mods. Not sure about now. @@rondee
We had GP-Ed on the Amiga for GC's Grand Prix back in the day. You had to send a cheque off, and you got the floppy disc in the post 😊
@@rondee Crikey, there is a tiny tiny chance somewhere on an old HDD, I wouldn't hold your breath tho mate tbh, it is at least 26/27 years ago now !
I absolutely loved this game back in the day. Used to drive with an analogue joystick as if I was piloting a plane.
VR support would be absoluetly great!
I do race in VR and its an absolute game changer.
I would love to use VR in this game, and relive my childhood the way id imagined it
So I have to say, great video. This is the main game I remember getting me into sim racing. I love indycar 2 and the all the grand prix series. I also remember trying to play on keyboard and then eventually getting my first wheel. The Thrustmaster (bungie cord FFB) wheel. Now being 53 i am still simracing but now on triple screens. Keep up the great work. You give me ideas for my small channel(for fun) on my next video. Cheers.
2025 started strong for us old sim lovers
Hope something happens for grand prix 4 aswell
i think grand prix 3 needs that more. grand prix 4 can already be run in wide screen
@@ScootDaVootbut gp4 is so instable. At least I can't run it longer than a few laps.
ICR2 now this? Are we currently having a renaissance in sim racing?
Retro sim racing certainly is.
💯 dude. We are literally living in the greatest age. Not even counting penicillin and clean water n stuff
RBR blowing up too
A lot of it is to do with how awful the F1 and other EA games have become. You can race these cars in other Sims of course and even do a championship (AC, AMS2) but there's an atmosphere in these specific games that the modern games completely miss.
@@demonicsquid7217Perfect!👌🏻
Appreciate your time and work. Great finally GP2. Lot of nostalgic memories here. More of that!
I was so fond of this game when I was a kid. We got a Thrustmaster 2 wheel with it at xmas. Really looking forward to playing again! Would love to see a live stream season.
Thanks GPL!
LFG!! With the possible exception of Geoff Crammond’s original 1991-based Formula One Grand Prix, on my Atari ST in 1992, Grand Prix 2 still has my most hours played in any sim ever.
I completed multiple full length race championship seasons with it - due to the series’ awesome _save and resume at any point_ feature.
@@GregzVR same for me! I am a multiple world champion with different teams 😎 we used to play it with my childhood friend in that swapping multiplayer mode, that was pretty awesome!!! We spent countless hours with GP2 especially during summer holidays. Qualifying in the morning with race in the afternoon, off course 100% race distance!
I played this game so much at the time, it is fantastic to see it is still updated today, such a fun game from the golden era of PC games and Microprose.
what were the odds this comes out around the same time... And yes, Axleson needs to do a season of this.
Thanks for posting this! I just did a few quick races and it was like the old times!Gp2 means the world to me and I played it with all kinds of carsets and tracks well into the 2000's. It was also a very important teacher of motorsports history, which was always my favorite part about racing. Suddenly I could play as Fittipaldi, Stewart or the rocket men of the turbo era! Then I experienced what you say in the beginning: with newer hardware I could never get it to work properly. This is REALLY cool!
By the way, who else plays Gp2 with a keyboard?
@towserfm I did back in the day.. my Brother who sadly passed away back in 2013 mastered Grand Prix 4 on the keyboard..he would test..do full practice, Qualifying and the race.. great memories! I'm interested in the mods you were playing on GP2 as you mentioned Stewart and Fittipaldi? 😊
the GP games always had the best engine sounds.
This is awesome! I always wanted to try this sim but was intimidated by the complicated install process. I can't wait to give this a go.
I never thought seeing a steering wheel in GP2 move and rotate would blow my mind but here we are. Gonna have to look out my copy of GP2 later and give this a try. Would love to see you do a full season on this game someday Jake the Indycar 2 stuff is a fun watch!
I saw this in Ted Meat's channel as well where you replied! ;-)
GP2 is still in it's original box, lying in a storage container somewhere our house.
I feel like i should get it out and try this. Back then my pc could not run this and i never really got to playing it the way i wanted.
It's like this has always been a "trauma" for me so this new thing could be my "therapy".
THIS IS INCREDIBLE
Love this and will definitely try,I spent way too many hours playing this on keyboard with full length seasons when it originally came out.
This is just awesome. I actually still have a Pentium 2 266 with a Riva TNT 2 ultra and a Voodoo 2 card with Awe 32 sound card.
I used to often just run this game in demo mode and watch the race play out after crashing out just to see who would win.
These games were way ahead of their time. Crammond is a genius.
my all time fav game from the good old days
I have played all other GP games but never the second. GP3 got me hundreds of hours.
@@Unwoken_European It's worth trying! - even more now!
Wide-screen GP2 🎉 , this game and even GP1 still has better AI than current games that will actually race you wheel to wheel and not give up after you have overtaken then. I still the GP game for that reason. Looking forward to more updates on this one.
The weather was already in the first Grand Prix game though. It was planned for GP2 apparently as you said, but never got into the release.
At 20:47, you can see the KPH change to MPH.
Yes, it's a graphical glitch in the game. There's a fix out there for it
I remember 4 years ago I was obsessed with everthing f1 1994 and wanted to play this game so bad considering it was honestly the best simulation of the '94 season you could really get, not many mods for rf or ac. I swear I watched like every video on the internet about the stock game
You can get Grand Prix 4 and just slap a 94 mod on it.
That’s so impressive! Thanks!!
As someone who was born way after the GP games this is a perfect opportunity for me to try Grand Prix 2, I've been wanting to visit the older Grand Prix games as I've only played GP4, and I've also played other older sim racing games like Nascar Racing 2003, GP Legends, F1 Challenge 99-02, and I have a huge appreciation and love for the older titles as they just are not the same anymore, modern F1 games the cars feel like literal tanks to drive, where in F1 Challenge or GP4 its very twitchy and any small mistake can cause a fatal crash.
Thanks for the video. This brings back a lot of good memories.
This was great!! Me and a friend would play this all of the time back when this came out. I would love to see you do a full season video. I still have my original install disk and am installing it now!
Its nice to see the 94 cars in all their glory - obviously given the tragedy in this season IRL, its not a year most developers and modders want to touch - but the x86 version really does feel like a whole new game.
Highlights just how ahead of his time Geoff Crammond was, and how little progress with AI racing has actually been made in nearly 30 years.
34:13 Its a Larrousse! Not sure if GP2 has drivers for each race, but if it did, that's Hideki Noda, however Olivier Beretta did the most races in that car.
Yes it's Beretta, and his team mate is Erik Comas.
I did a full ace season as Comas, with traction control, and it was fun because I chose this car knowing it's the car that has the highest failure probability. I had a failure in more than 50% of the races.
The car that Jake overtook first was the Pacific of Gachot
I believe GP2 used the drivers and liveries from the 1994 German Grand Prix
This is awesome! I recently tried to get the original version to work, without success. I can't wait to try it.
Awesome, thanks, going to try it tomorrow
Nuts having the ICR2 updates and this in such close proximity. Those 2 games were basically all I played my freshman year of college.
I definitely gotta get this! I probably still have the original install disk for GP2 somewhere… (although not needed i guess) I played GP2 soooooo much in the ‘90s, probably one of the only games I played 😅 So many fond memories, playing the ‘turn based’ 2 player with my best mate after school, doing full seasons etc and all on keyboard as wheels weren’t really a thing yet, although I remember my dad one day came home with a wheel he borrowed from a colleague and I played GP2 for the first time ever with a wheel, it did have some ‘force’ but definitely no ‘feedback’ iirc but it’s been like 30 years ago by now…
The original F1GP also had rain, it was dropped in GP2 as the game was rushed at the end
I guess Santa was still around. 2 great gifts yesterday!
F1GP and GP2 ran like a thread through my youth.
Got GP2 running again in 2016 thanks to Dosbox and started in 1988 and eventually finished the 2019 season in 2020. Now I mod the crap out of GP4.
But it's great to see the revival of these games. Especially the moving wheels and steering wheel were features I really missed in those days.
Would be great if the can make the AI defend there positions like they do in GP4.
Nevertheless I watched the whole 50 minutes with a smile on my face. So do that full season Jake! 👊
This game and Indycar 2 has so many memories for me from the 90s, that I cannot even describe. I still play both to this very day, stoked to see that more and more advancements are being made to enjoy these old gems on modern machines.
The Speed channel was originally called Speedvision. I remember the first time I saw it was when they offered it as a free view weekend back in 1999, they were airing an old show called Car and Track with Bud Lindemann, which would have footage from 60s and 70s NASCAR races. They also showed a lot more niche racing back then like various touring cars series. When it became the Speed channel it went downhill fast.
Insane nostalgia watching this. Spent a ton of hours with a mate doing multiple championships with that hot drive feature the GP series had.
Brilliant video. I remember buying GP2 at launch and grappling to get an old Epson PC to run it. The highest graphics settings with all street furniture, mirrors etc was only ever a pipe dream back then if I wanted a playable frame rate. How times have changed. I might have to invest in a decent gaming rig as the modding community is doing amazing things with sports games I grew up with. Cheers.
I love that youre into LGR. You're basically the LGR of sim racing - high production quality with a retro focus.
Fantastic!! I still have the Amiga box version displayed on a shelf in my games room. I also have many of the original F1 photos used by Microprose in the game manual.
This is so awesome, it just shows how many people want a proper single player, immersive racing sim, that we get excited for updates to 30 year old ones. It isn't really happening with modern sims. I don't think Ted mentioned this either, so I think it's worth noting that this needs the US version of GP2 to run. This caught me out as I've only ever had the UK version. Looking forward to seeing where this goes, for mod content, and for Jake and Ted's channels.
This is impressive! I hope GP3 and 4 get similar treatment. Trying to set up my controls in GP4 with an SC2 is giving me brain damage.
Driver aggression is same across all drivers. You can tune the following through the GPedit utility:
Team (cars):
- Engine power in qualifying
- Engine power in a race
- Reliability
Driver:
- Qualifying grip
- Race grip
- Variation from the settings above
This way you can have pretty realistic carsets that reflect the performance difference between drivers, as well as possible fluctuations of each driver performance throughout the season.
Great video, would love to see a season of this, game looks and works really well.
I would absolutely love seeing you a 100% playthrough of this after the current ICR2 season
Wonder if anyone’s ever thought to ask if Crammond still has the source code for his old GP games, and if he’d be willing to make it public.
He does (for GP4 anyway) and he isn't planning on releasing it. I saw it in an interview he did a few years ago
This is what I've been dreaming of for so long! This game as well as IndyCar Racing have defined my life and career. Hopefully this and ICR2 Rendition come to full potential. AMS2 is fun and all, but these games are so complete, it's totally immersive and that's most important to me. GP2x86 makes it even more complete.
Would be awesome if you'd do a full season of this some time.
This is amazing
Thanks for great video! I have small kids now and cannot fully commit to iRacing anymore due to lack of time. So I'm searching for some good sims that i can play offline when i have a bit of free time.
I mostly grew up on NR2003 so playing this mostly now, but this GP2 looks amazing. I probably played it as little kid back in the day but could not appreciate it at the time.
New sims mostly lack interesting racing/season play against AI so getting into these older sims seems like way to go.
Downloading GP2 mod now and looking forward to trying it out thanks to you.
Oh the memories!! And to see it overhauled like this, man!
For those wondering: the teams that had manual gearboxes were Footwork, Pacific and Simtek, although Simtek had a 'semi' gearbox...
I used to print out the starting grids and timings as a kid :D And my racing setup was a desk chair with two wheel removed so it leaned as far back possible, with the peddles on a wooden crate. And the steering wheel i used was a Microsoft Sidewinder Precision Racing Wheel, later on i get the Force Feedback version of it. I still got my boxed copy, with a floppy disk inside with modding files on it, sadly i don't have a floppy drive to look at it anymore.
Would love to see you do a full season in this. Agree though, you'll probably want to wait for mod support, get the proper sponsors on the cars etc.
From memory I think weather got cut from the game at a late stage because they struggled to get it working properly. I remember as a kid it took me about 3 months to notice as I assumed I just got lucky with the weather. It was a shame it got cut as I loved the spray effect in GP1.
Just from this gameplay, the car seems so satisfying to drive, as if it would scratch an itch. Think it might have something to do with the increase in fps and the decrease in input lag
Man this brings back memories. GP2 was my very first PC game! Countless hours went into that. When internet at school became a thing I obtained gp2edit with a floppy disk and then the gates opened.😂 I always thought i was good enough to win the championship in a Simtek only to find out that there was a "players car" with insane stats that you were given no matter which team you ran for.
Defo need you to do a season with these cars Jake.
There's a whole fascinating discussion around why we like old games. Ultimately I think its because we are all getting old! I was 9 in the 1994 season and this game was mindblowing to a 10/11 year old. I think the games are not better or worse than modern ones, relative to their time. However, the nostalgia hit is as much about trying to recapture that feeling. In many ways we are blessed with sims and games, becasue the generation before us don't necessarily have the resources available to recapture their wholly non digital life experience. But our generation CAN capture a fleeting glimpse of that joy through these games once again. In that way we are blessed, and its why I love 90s games - especially as I approach 40.
Also - yes please for a Ryan Axleson crossover!
Loved GP2 and especially GP4. I don’t know how many hours I spent finding the perfect Monza setup. 8-10 laps run, back to the pits, check telemetry, tweak one or two things, and start all over again.
This is just amazing!
That's fantastic! It was the first game I ever bought with my own money. Looks great! About the wet weather, it was present in GP1 but I don't really know why GP2 is dry only. Probably some limitation. I've seen some attempts to emulate it but not sucessfully, at least so far.
IIRC there were track packs that did what IRC2 Rendition did, the smoke for spray and the dark textures,the Belini track packs IIRC
Fabulous, loved the first Geoff Cramond game and GP2 did not disappoint. As you correctly pointed out the racing dynamics were so good back then, mechanical retirements, accidents caused by the computer controlled cars and debris the game well it had it all. Please do an F1 season you will provide us with so much entertainment and if it's as good as I remember you'll get a great kick out of it. But please don't take Berger's seat maybe the 2nd Benetton seat 🙂
Never had a wheel to play GP1 thru GP4, hads friends that did, I was just so used to keyboard play
Crammonds' Sims were well ahead of the times, in so many ways, they also required system specs that were well ahead of the hardware available at launch
I had the Autocourse from this year, so I was vividly familiar with all the back markers. Even I couldn't recognize the Larrousse from behind.
one of my fondest memories of Gran Prix 3 was starting out in a Minardi and doing like 2 laps before I had massive smoke coming out the back and the gearbox had exploded. No modern game does that and I think it's a real shame
Thank to show how this game is a masterpiece!
You should definitely do the 90's thing of being CART champ and getting a Williams ride, once you finish your ICR2 season!
You should make Ritchie Axelson series using GP2 now! This is amazing, brings back lot of childhood memories!
You should have stayed in 2nd gear at the Schumacher corner.
I drive it in 2nd too but it's a bit tricky corner because it's not flat.
Coincidentally, my last upload is a race in Adelaide too, the last race of my championship as Alesi
From memory Crammond had to use just one base car model for all the opposition cars due to memory restrictions didn’t he?
I play a lot of Crammond's Revs, so I'm not surprised to hear you praise the AI in his games. Revs is so good I've still not graduated to his GP games 😅. Maybe 2025 will be the year I discover 1990s racing sims.
Weather (rain) was in the original Grand Prix as well, so just GP2 missing this feature.
If you do a full season, it will all be flashbacks for me. Loved Adelaide, had me going.
I still have the original Microsoft Force feedback joystick . I can’t remember If that worked with these games or not.
The force feedback on that thing is amazing though. I used to love it with helicopter simulators.
As far as I know it still works. It has been packed in a box for years and years.
Oh my god! My fav game ever!
Ah this brings back memories 😊 Another great video and would love to watch a season…how about Richie being dropped into the McLaren team as a replacement for Michael Andretti? Given the disappointment of his ‘93 season in F1, would make a cool narrative don’t you think 🤔
Oh, man, that's so cool. I think I'm gonna get it and say goodbye to real life (like I almost did in the 90s)... haha.
Wow! To me, one of the best game of F1 of all times! Very nostalgic! I played for the first time in 2001... 😅
I used to love adding my own team with drivers as people i know friends , family lol and auto run race...great action
I was thinking of Grand Prix Legends that I have on CD Rom while watching this. Another amazing game.
I played this game on both the keyboard and a joystick as a boy 🙂I used to add lots of custom old tracks and edit the cars and drivers, I'd simulate seasons; I had a great time.
Love to see a full season of this. Are there any plans to complete the Richie Axelson 66 season? IIRC that only got as far as Italy last time I looked.
Already craving a season mode for GP Laps to stream.
this is just amazing
Gerhard Axelson, the Austrian cousin driving in F-1, a season to remember will be.. 🍻
This is great! But I got the same stupid problem as someone in the forums: "Sorry to say this, but I can't pass the initial screen. I set up controller, full screen and other options but I'm unable to pass the OK button."
Game requires my G27 to be plugged in before the game starts for detection. OK button requires my G27 to NOT be plugged in for it to work.
This definitely needs a more in-depth installation tutorial. The forum is no help since its registration is dead (not even the author was able to signup which is hilarious) and the info there that it needs the US version may be false, since I downloaded the EU version from one of the most famous links (probably shouldn't link it here but everyone will probably come across it) and I got to get the game running and access the settings from the right-click menu, but couldn't get past the initial message, as many are reporting.
I got a US version from another popular link and didn't even get the game to run, but will try other versions available and return if anything changes.
for me i ran Gp2x86 as "admin" and it allows me to click
GPlaps content hell yea
Jake's going like "how can the same $h!# happen to the same guy twice" as the Ferrari finds out the Williams' secret oil slick dispenser to its cost!🤣
This was a great game back in the day, and this port continues its rich legacy! I'd love to see Ryan Axelson jump across the water to try out F1 some time soon.
Playing the adelaide circuit on my pentium 120 with a thrustmaster wheel when i was 11yo is a core memory
i remember modding GP2 on my old pc ... such great times bc it was still 32bit windows .... but finally u can play it on modern systems without dosbox ... i hope there will be modding again xdd
I was thrilled to try this out but I can't get any further than the first menu screen of the game (where it says WARNING: PUBLIC ALPHA RELEASE! and Written by: Geoff Crammond etc). Clicking the OK button does nothing but I can right click to bring up the Options/Accelerate Time menu. Please can anyone help me? I'm desperate to play this game once again. I still have my original big box copy of the original game but haven't been able to play it for 20+ years.