Feel vs real. If you select .25 on the playback speed you can clearly see his lower body starts way before his upper body on the downswing. The key is all in the transition. The hands and club are still going back as he shifts his weight to the front foot and THEN he pours on the coals with his right side. As Nicklaus said in his Golf My Way video, " as soon as I shift my weight to my front foot I begin to release the club with my arms and hands" Mike Austin called it " Step and Throw", NOT "throw and step".
This comment is absolutely spot on, I was just about to right the same thing when I saw this. As with all good golf swings the first movement from the top of the back swing is a lateral shift of pressure/weight to the front foot, this automatically drops the hands into the "slot" (horrible term) and then just rotate the lower half through to the target and the arms will follow. Everything starts with the lateral movement though, rotate first and you will come over the top and chop at the ball.
His right thumb is off the club during the takeaway. Not sure if he gets it back on the club during the downswing. A golf pro told me once that the thumb is not needed but I am not sure how true that is.
Feel vs Real. He feels like it's 3 days, it looks like it's .003 seconds, lol. The moral of the story for the average golfer is to be waaaaaaay more patient in transition. Go to the range and try to feel like you're Hideki Matsuyama, or Inbee Park. In doing so, one might be surprised by the contrast between feel and real in their own swing.
That would be the exact opposite of what a golfer should do. For him it's a timing thing. For everyone else, hands ahead of hips would be a pull or a hook.
I've been watching a ton of different golf training vids and literally nobody teaches hands first. Hips, shoulders arms move as one with arms tucked against chest like Ben Hogan.
@@CallMeJackWagon Ben "the yipps" Hogan was fundamentally wrong though.... Want to hit the ball long and straight? Hold the club in your HANDS not your fingers, use a single plane, and cast from the top. Or not, just twist your back and try catch it with your hands. Like ol Benny
If you play it in slow motion his hips turn first unlike what he says.....then his arms follow. What one feels and what one does are often two different things in a golf swing.
THANK YOU, and if you read my reply (several up from this location), you'll note that Jason's first move downward IS the hip rotation...not the hands. Freeze frame at the 24 second mark.
Sorry, but if you freeze him as he makes his first move downward?....it's def hips first. Flat out. Freeze frame at 24 seconds & you'll see that his hips are in rotation already & his wrists / hands are fully cocked. PLEASE change the title of this vid in order you don't confuse & compromise the swings of those who are trying to find their mechanics. I'm surprised you didn't analyze his swing in the same way as I before you posted this.
The change of direction at the top of the backswing, Penick’s Magic Move, perplexed me for many years as a recreational golfer until I analyzed the physics and realized it was impossible to pull the hands down at the same time the club force is pulling them up. The solution? Drop the hands independent of the rotation of the shoulders and pull of hand up and forward by side-bending the spine backwards which can be done independently of the rotation, like being able to walk and chew gum at the same time. If you just pose statically in the top-of-swing position in front of a mirror and then just side bend you’ll observe the hand rotating downward in a circle and feel a reflexive movement of the hips laterally, exactly what is needed to trigger the closed loaded hips to fire open to initiate the downswing. The dropping of the hands bends and loads the shaft of clubs. To maintain that bend the physics require that the hands pulling the club down keep trying to accelerate the hands faster than inertia of the lagging club head mass wants to let them. The technique for doing that is to progressively increase the amount of side-bend during the rest of the downswing, why you see so much side-bend at impact in Jason’s body and all other good ball strikers. The side bend affects shoulder angle which affects lead arm angle and the direction its mass flies off the chest. Without side bend the lead arm swings off to the left around the feet. With side bend the lead arm flies straighter towards the target which also changes the force vector of the club head mass the lead arm and hands are pulling. Side-bend is the secret sauce 😊
This whole vid is misleading. I teach golf & this info is poison to anyone trying to realize swing mechanics. Read my initial comment (several comments above this one) to see what I mean.
I expected to see a weird handsy swing with hands leading, but the thumb title is so fxxking misleading. It is a typical pga swing, with hips moving FIRST, hands trailing. No secret here. The guy posting it is a moron.
PLEASE don't try this. Read my comment (several up from here) and see for yourself that this info is POISON to any swing unless you are 'spinning out,' where your hips are a tad too fast for your upper body & hands.. Note that Jason's hips are the FIRST thing to rotate / move on the downswing...NOT the hands as he is still fully cocked. Freeze frame at the 24 second mark & you'll see exactly what I mean. For MOST golfers, ALWAYS initiate downswing with the hips FIRST and let the rest of that unwinding 'coil' immediately follow.
@@Kazyman this move is for more advanced players where the hips initiate the downswing already but the hips are turning too fast, out pacing the hands. The hands first is to negate that and many players like Nicholas and Tiger have said they try to use the hands first on the downswing. HOWEVER, the hips start the downswing not the hands
Exactly, like I stated in my comment (several up from here). AND he's still fully cocked...look at the 24 second mark. I asked the uploader of this vid to PLEASE change the title to this vid before he confuses & ruins the swings of fledgling level golfers.
Check homeboy out post impact. Total stall of the body rotation. More and more I am seeing guys on Tour make very early rotational movements with the hips coming down (Rory, Morikawa, etc) and then there is a massive stall at impact. Never saw this with players like Burke, Hogan, Venturi, Snead etc. People may claim that ball is gone but this is a timing issue, and a flip left is always a possibility. Video doesn't lie. Instead of his club shaft tracking left post Impact he is flat footed and the club is going straight out to the right. It's great that these guys can belt it a mile and have great short games... They are going to need it because these actions aren't conducive to longevity and as they get older and less athletic they are done.
Evidence on that? Any evidence on Hogan, Snead, etc not banking - staying flat footed as you call it - and extending through impact? Also that all these guys had a centripetal release - low left - with Driver when trying to hit a draw?
@@CSqrdX Here is a video which shows Hogan from the 40s - 60s. No stall, and left foot is PULLED up probably around P5 and dragged freely. Feel free to pull up all the video you want of Tiger who actually tried to keep his right heel down for awhile unfortunately. Bottom line is the issue isn't the flat footed nature of his swing or a Chad Campbell type action as you can for sure rotate with your right foot down quite a bit, but the stall. ua-cam.com/video/nhSlKWXOfvA/v-deo.html
Very well put. And for the rest of us, we don't have to worry about 'spinning out' as we really don't have the power, thus the liability of the upper body surpassing the movement of our lower body.
Just so everyone knows, he’s a tall, big, strong guy
😂
generating a lot of power from the swamp
Feel vs real. If you select .25 on the playback speed you can clearly see his lower body starts way before his upper body on the downswing. The key is all in the transition. The hands and club are still going back as he shifts his weight to the front foot and THEN he pours on the coals with his right side.
As Nicklaus said in his Golf My Way video, " as soon as I shift my weight to my front foot I begin to release the club with my arms and hands"
Mike Austin called it " Step and Throw", NOT "throw and step".
HOGAN - explains this very well in his book. Drive the right knee to the ball on downswing.
This comment is absolutely spot on, I was just about to right the same thing when I saw this. As with all good golf swings the first movement from the top of the back swing is a lateral shift of pressure/weight to the front foot, this automatically drops the hands into the "slot" (horrible term) and then just rotate the lower half through to the target and the arms will follow. Everything starts with the lateral movement though, rotate first and you will come over the top and chop at the ball.
Jason is swinging so hard he’s sweating thru is britches
Damn... those slacks soakin up sweat like a sponge!
I think what he meant is the hip must not unwind too quickly that the arms/hands get stuck behind & could not keep up result in big slice
No matter, he should rename the title of the vid before he ruins the mechanics of many a fledgling golfer.
That ball is still in that guy’s cereal lol. Pure power there man.
yup
He seems to be behind on his core work but keeping up with the brewskis.
you either got it or you don't. athleticism coordination
He has naturally fast hips. Tiger did too. I have the opposite problem. You need to know yourself.
His right thumb is off the club during the takeaway. Not sure if he gets it back on the club during the downswing. A golf pro told me once that the thumb is not needed but I am not sure how true that is.
Whenever my hips unwind too quickly, I get a host of probs.
Same. No control of direction like that.
What is puzzling to me is that he doesn't seem to pause at the top for even 1/100 of a second.
The pause is only 1 of 3 ways the transition can be executed.
Well he said it twice; "I'm a big strong guy". He says that quite often.
Feel vs Real. He feels like it's 3 days, it looks like it's .003 seconds, lol. The moral of the story for the average golfer is to be waaaaaaay more patient in transition. Go to the range and try to feel like you're Hideki Matsuyama, or Inbee Park. In doing so, one might be surprised by the contrast between feel and real in their own swing.
I thought this would be a different video judging by the title…
The Mike Malaska method he’s been teaching for years
His right thumb is off the shaft from address to halfway back, then is back on about 3/4 back.
The disgusted seal sequently count because plant hypothetically crawl onto a unequal handicap. gray greasy great, tasty spike
not much explaining on power. to say the hips are fast is not good enough
shit hes huge what else.
Just throw your back arm as hard as you can during the down swing and it will fly
It is more than enough info for scratch and plus handicap golfers....
@@Dk-gl1nh thats a laugher.
How do you keep your arms relaxed swinging that hard?
Natural ability
real strength.
That would be the exact opposite of what a golfer should do. For him it's a timing thing. For everyone else, hands ahead of hips would be a pull or a hook.
I've been watching a ton of different golf training vids and literally nobody teaches hands first.
Hips, shoulders arms move as one with arms tucked against chest like Ben Hogan.
@@CallMeJackWagon Ben "the yipps" Hogan was fundamentally wrong though.... Want to hit the ball long and straight? Hold the club in your HANDS not your fingers, use a single plane, and cast from the top. Or not, just twist your back and try catch it with your hands. Like ol Benny
If you play it in slow motion his hips turn first unlike what he says.....then his arms follow. What one feels and what one does are often two different things in a golf swing.
THANK YOU, and if you read my reply (several up from this location), you'll note that Jason's first move downward IS the hip rotation...not the hands. Freeze frame at the 24 second mark.
Must have been really hot that day. Either that or Jason ate some really nasty chili.
Nice swing you got there.
Sorry, but if you freeze him as he makes his first move downward?....it's def hips first. Flat out. Freeze frame at 24 seconds & you'll see that his hips are in rotation already & his wrists / hands are fully cocked. PLEASE change the title of this vid in order you don't confuse & compromise the swings of those who are trying to find their mechanics. I'm surprised you didn't analyze his swing in the same way as I before you posted this.
It sucks that I can't do that
The change of direction at the top of the backswing, Penick’s Magic Move, perplexed me for many years as a recreational golfer until I analyzed the physics and realized it was impossible to pull the hands down at the same time the club force is pulling them up. The solution? Drop the hands independent of the rotation of the shoulders and pull of hand up and forward by side-bending the spine backwards which can be done independently of the rotation, like being able to walk and chew gum at the same time. If you just pose statically in the top-of-swing position in front of a mirror and then just side bend you’ll observe the hand rotating downward in a circle and feel a reflexive movement of the hips laterally, exactly what is needed to trigger the closed loaded hips to fire open to initiate the downswing. The dropping of the hands bends and loads the shaft of clubs. To maintain that bend the physics require that the hands pulling the club down keep trying to accelerate the hands faster than inertia of the lagging club head mass wants to let them. The technique for doing that is to progressively increase the amount of side-bend during the rest of the downswing, why you see so much side-bend at impact in Jason’s body and all other good ball strikers. The side bend affects shoulder angle which affects lead arm angle and the direction its mass flies off the chest. Without side bend the lead arm swings off to the left around the feet. With side bend the lead arm flies straighter towards the target which also changes the force vector of the club head mass the lead arm and hands are pulling. Side-bend is the secret sauce 😊
Big strong guy?
"...yep"
0.19 'I tried to get it away from me to control it as much as possible'? This statement doesn't make a bit of sense.
Extended arms, less bend, less variables
This whole vid is misleading. I teach golf & this info is poison to anyone trying to realize swing mechanics. Read my initial comment (several comments above this one) to see what I mean.
Wrong title
What are you selling? Confusing people.All good swings start lower body duh or perhaps argue with Hogan
I expected to see a weird handsy swing with hands leading, but the thumb title is so fxxking misleading. It is a typical pga swing, with hips moving FIRST, hands trailing. No secret here. The guy posting it is a moron.
Looks like grandpa speed after seeing that Berkshire character, but a lovely move and good zoom just the same!
Yes but Berkshire couldn’t hit it straightish to save his life lol.
Freedom lover Very true. Think a couple of his drives have landed in my back yard up in Canada.
The last time I saw legs that thin, they were hanging out of a nest.
Just to clarify, he means "hands first" not "shoulders first", correct?
Yeah
PLEASE don't try this. Read my comment (several up from here) and see for yourself that this info is POISON to any swing unless you are 'spinning out,' where your hips are a tad too fast for your upper body & hands.. Note that Jason's hips are the FIRST thing to rotate / move on the downswing...NOT the hands as he is still fully cocked. Freeze frame at the 24 second mark & you'll see exactly what I mean. For MOST golfers, ALWAYS initiate downswing with the hips FIRST and let the rest of that unwinding 'coil' immediately follow.
@@Kazyman this move is for more advanced players where the hips initiate the downswing already but the hips are turning too fast, out pacing the hands. The hands first is to negate that and many players like Nicholas and Tiger have said they try to use the hands first on the downswing. HOWEVER, the hips start the downswing not the hands
@@dial3651 Oh, I see. But I still think the title should relate to that. I've always known that as 'spinning out.' Thx though.
Many of us don't have hips so fast we have to do this, not good advice for the average player.
His hips unwind before his hands drop.
Thats a huge key to generating big club head speed.. creates a massive whip like effect through the hitting zone.
Exactly, like I stated in my comment (several up from here). AND he's still fully cocked...look at the 24 second mark. I asked the uploader of this vid to PLEASE change the title to this vid before he confuses & ruins the swings of fledgling level golfers.
Check homeboy out post impact. Total stall of the body rotation. More and more I am seeing guys on Tour make very early rotational movements with the hips coming down (Rory, Morikawa, etc) and then there is a massive stall at impact. Never saw this with players like Burke, Hogan, Venturi, Snead etc. People may claim that ball is gone but this is a timing issue, and a flip left is always a possibility. Video doesn't lie. Instead of his club shaft tracking left post Impact he is flat footed and the club is going straight out to the right. It's great that these guys can belt it a mile and have great short games... They are going to need it because these actions aren't conducive to longevity and as they get older and less athletic they are done.
Evidence on that? Any evidence on Hogan, Snead, etc not banking - staying flat footed as you call it - and extending through impact? Also that all these guys had a centripetal release - low left - with Driver when trying to hit a draw?
@@CSqrdX Here is a video which shows Hogan from the 40s - 60s. No stall, and left foot is PULLED up probably around P5 and dragged freely. Feel free to pull up all the video you want of Tiger who actually tried to keep his right heel down for awhile unfortunately. Bottom line is the issue isn't the flat footed nature of his swing or a Chad Campbell type action as you can for sure rotate with your right foot down quite a bit, but the stall. ua-cam.com/video/nhSlKWXOfvA/v-deo.html
Very well put. And for the rest of us, we don't have to worry about 'spinning out' as we really don't have the power, thus the liability of the upper body surpassing the movement of our lower body.