MODERN HELICOPTERS VS BIPLANE SWARM - How Well Can They Do? - WAR THUNDER

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  • @ThunderWithMuffin
    @ThunderWithMuffin  Рік тому +16

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    • @ankoe0803
      @ankoe0803 Рік тому +1

      Hey. What about using a premium I rank planes?

    • @QwerYT4819
      @QwerYT4819 Рік тому +1

      raidin your house

    • @louiswright8282
      @louiswright8282 Рік тому +2

      Oh wow.
      Anyway, last week-

    • @Shinzon23
      @Shinzon23 Рік тому

      Disgusting sponsor.

    • @yourdonefor4454
      @yourdonefor4454 Рік тому +1

      Raid garbage legends. Most accurate video on yt

  • @historicalkimjonas
    @historicalkimjonas Рік тому +285

    This was very fun to be a part of, although I only killed 4 out of 20 biplanes. I thought they would take a lot longer to get to me lol.

    • @jonathontyynismaa5310
      @jonathontyynismaa5310 Рік тому +1

      I have war thunder but it's laggy on my PlayStation

    • @russian_spy2205
      @russian_spy2205 Рік тому +4

      Why ka-52 and not mi-28nm? 28 have turreted 30 mil and a lot of armor

    • @historicalkimjonas
      @historicalkimjonas Рік тому +3

      @@russian_spy2205 ka-52 has better armaments for ground battles, the ka-52 can bring 12 vhikers and 8 aam while the mi-28m can only bring 12 vhikers or 8 aam

    • @russian_spy2205
      @russian_spy2205 Рік тому +1

      @@historicalkimjonas yes for grb, but against shit ton of biplanes mi-28 is better

    • @historicalkimjonas
      @historicalkimjonas Рік тому +2

      @@russian_spy2205 thats why i got the ka-52. and yeah, the mi-28 is a lot better for tons of planes, but i don't have the mi-28

  • @MPdude237
    @MPdude237 Рік тому +33

    Great video Muffin. This was enjoyable to watch.
    May I suggest all ground vs Coastal boats? The previous two naval vs ground engagements were a one sided battle due to the disparity of guns vs armor, however a battle between all ground vehicles and coastal vessels would be a much more even playing field and I suspect one that would favor the landlovers. Coastal vessels largely lack the tools needed to deal with heavily armored opponents, with the highest penning gun on a coastal vessel being the 85mm that fires BR-365 shells. Of course, they still have a volume of fire advantage so I expect to see a lot of broken tracks, barrels and some unlucky or lightly armored vehicles getting over pressured.

  • @minelo
    @minelo Рік тому +29

    Was a pleasure to take part in one of your videos. Even tho not everything went as planned it was still a joy!

  • @spingebill8551
    @spingebill8551 Рік тому +21

    Maybe APKWS would have been a good option for a secondary weapons against biplanes. Also I think the strategy for killing these props would be to climb as high as possible in hover mode and let the turret do the work.

  • @neopolitan4121
    @neopolitan4121 Рік тому +57

    New challenge: Have top tier players not rely on homing missiles. Trust me, it'll be very hard.

    • @nickkozak4763
      @nickkozak4763 Рік тому +1

      lol not me. i like to use guns when warranted.

    • @Dwight511
      @Dwight511 Рік тому +19

      But top tier players had to go through thousands of gun fights to actually get to top tier... unless they farmed with CAS/Premium/Bombers.

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 Рік тому +2

      @@Dwight511 I feel like over half the people just picked bombers, bombed the enemy base thousands of times and got top tier like that lol

    • @alpacaofthemountain8760
      @alpacaofthemountain8760 Рік тому

      Bombers are bad@@eVill420

  • @Idk-cz9ms
    @Idk-cz9ms Рік тому +8

    Never had much hope for the Helis sometimes I’ll bring a biplane with 10-50kg bombs as a joke and kill some helis along the way

    • @nickkozak4763
      @nickkozak4763 Рік тому

      well if you’re good you may be able to shoot down the air to air missiles with your own Atgm.
      quite fun without the ITO 90 or 2S6. those are really my only pet peeves

  • @appa609
    @appa609 Рік тому +22

    given a good operator, a single biplane can kill any helicopter

    • @louisdancie7729
      @louisdancie7729 Рік тому +8

      good joke, now imagine with a good pilot in the heli, not like this :p

    • @Tinfoil_Hardhat
      @Tinfoil_Hardhat Рік тому +5

      Until it gets shot down by an air to air missile. Or in real life shot down from 5 miles out by the cannon

    • @CircusJeanie2399
      @CircusJeanie2399 Рік тому +5

      If it ever gets to engagement distance, sure, maybe, but only if the helicopter pilot is completely new and has just learned the basics of flight.

    • @Hubert_G
      @Hubert_G Рік тому +2

      @@CircusJeanie2399 realy ka 52 could get 12 vikge that can kill any plane from few km and then u could go up and lock on on planes and thenn shoot them with cannons

    • @ozoahameg3582
      @ozoahameg3582 Рік тому +3

      yea as long as that heli stays low and the biplane has good cover that it wont get spotted
      cause IDK if any skill can bridge the gap if a KA50 or even any top tier heli when it spots your biplane at 5km+

  • @luckyvernhelar6643
    @luckyvernhelar6643 Рік тому +9

    Well to be fair helicopters were created to handle ground targets such as tanks, infantry, and light vehicles. Although they have air-air features it is only mediocre at best. Not a war thunder player btw.

  • @Dogwattr
    @Dogwattr Рік тому +3

    Props to the man who *dodged* two missiles and crash-landed

  • @Tomcat-tomato
    @Tomcat-tomato Рік тому

    I love how the Intro is so Cinematic and all and then a random muffin Pops up, and to top it off, raid Shadow legends

  • @sinisterisrandom8537
    @sinisterisrandom8537 Рік тому +9

    Jokes on you the ultimate helicopter even gaijin fears is the Ki-10 IIC

  • @Morgan_daughter
    @Morgan_daughter Рік тому +6

    Hey muffin, I have a idea for one of your next video, basically it’s a big air fight with modern jet vs tier 2-3 plane with the objectives of bombarding a base

  • @shelbylover1359
    @shelbylover1359 Рік тому +4

    Helicopters are easier to take down than you think. At short range, bi planes will have the advantage as they are faster than heli’s. At king range, heli’s have the advantage as they have missisles

  • @PdizzleOne7889
    @PdizzleOne7889 Рік тому +2

    It was very fun to participate in this event and to help entertain others.
    The video outcome was great!
    Thanks Muffin for making such a great job.

  • @FishingWithSails
    @FishingWithSails Рік тому +5

    Please do a single Tiger 1 vs numerous Churchill Mk.III next. Basically the battle of Point 174 where the British were able to immobilize and capture Tiger 131.

    • @felixdrews7222
      @felixdrews7222 Рік тому +2

      But that battle would we way too unfair agaunst the tiger wouldn't it? the point of these videos is to put vehicles who vastly outperform the others against lots of them to see how good they really are. This would be too unfair for the tiger 1 and would not be entertainging

    • @FishingWithSails
      @FishingWithSails Рік тому +1

      @@felixdrews7222 Not at all. Tiger 1 wouldn't be at a disadvantage at all. It would be very evened out. The Tiger has speed, armor and pen while the Churchill has an adequate gun, slower speed, mediocre armor(against the Tiger's 8,8cm), but has a quick reload speed. The gun can only pen the Tiger at close range if the Tiger isn't angled.

  • @No1harris_98
    @No1harris_98 Рік тому +17

    I honestly thought the KA-52 would get a lot more kills in the first round 😂

  • @TheoHawk316
    @TheoHawk316 Рік тому +2

    When I saw him try to hit him with an AGM, I was like "Dude, you can't hit that" turns out I was wrong.

  • @Mateo914
    @Mateo914 Рік тому +1

    Wished in the first round he took advantage of the buildings for cover.

  • @justaguythatwasbored1460
    @justaguythatwasbored1460 Рік тому

    10:20 started to give me black hawk down vibes

  • @lordjake2350
    @lordjake2350 Рік тому +1

    I think the Chinese heils are the best for air

  • @Jman4535
    @Jman4535 Рік тому

    I can't choose between them, I'm an aviation nut who would love flying either a jet or chopper if I was a pilot.

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 Рік тому +1

    How about the ultimate boat tank face off, the Kai-chi versus the LVT.

  • @christopherfoo3277
    @christopherfoo3277 Рік тому +5

    Another banger !

  • @r-saint
    @r-saint Рік тому

    I would watch an anime about time travellers in modern assault helicopters into WW1 time.

  • @rawchicken3463
    @rawchicken3463 Рік тому +1

    Pushed up to 7.0s a week or so ago and have flown helis a few times

  • @lorwts6821
    @lorwts6821 Рік тому

    Huge missed opportunity to have Bruce Leroy in the vid

  • @korvus1248
    @korvus1248 10 місяців тому

    War Thunder is a beast of a game. This was alot if fun to watch 👏 I have War Thunder Mobile but I wish there was a way to just play air battles as tanks and ships just don't do it for me at moment lol

  • @markc2964
    @markc2964 Рік тому

    Would have loved to see a Lynx in the fight.

  • @appa609
    @appa609 Рік тому +2

    If you climb and cut power, the Fox-2's don't actually track.

    • @DecidedlyNinja
      @DecidedlyNinja Рік тому

      Were there any fox-2s in this video? I think it was just vikhrs and hellfires.

    • @commandoepsilon4664
      @commandoepsilon4664 Рік тому

      @@DecidedlyNinja The American Apaches have Fox-2s, but I don't know that they used them. I think the only AAM that helis have that isn't IR guided are the Starstreaks on the British Apaches. But then again most of these missile kills were AGM, I think the Ka-52 in the first round got one with his AAMs.

    • @Thornbloom
      @Thornbloom Рік тому

      You mean Sidewinders.

    • @DecidedlyNinja
      @DecidedlyNinja Рік тому +1

      @@Thornbloom A sidewinder is a kind of fox-2.
      Fox-1 = semi-active radar missile
      Fox-2 = infrared missile
      Fox-3 = active radar missile

  • @ShadowWolfTJC
    @ShadowWolfTJC Рік тому

    Personally, I'd like to request a match between modern jets vs modern helicopters, to see how much of a fight helicopters could put up against jet fighters, especially since helicopters have been getting a bit of a questionable reputation during Russia's ongoing war... er, "special military operation" against Ukraine.
    I might as well also request a matchup between WW2-era planes/jets vs modern helicopters, to see if turboprops would give these helis a harder time than the biplanes have.

  • @ozoahameg3582
    @ozoahameg3582 Рік тому +1

    nice vid my only gripe is that why are the heli players dont gain altitude?
    only one guy does it lol
    by going high biplanes will have way harder time getting to them since biplanes would need to stick near the ground to avoid AAM so sticking at 2km height would be a good strat
    ironically its the ka that sat on that height is the 1st one to go lol
    although if multiple heli was in that height especially apache then they could survive it much more since apache's gun is more flexible than the KA's and all rounds are HEAT giving it a better chance of busting the plane in 1 hit

  • @nickkozak4763
    @nickkozak4763 Рік тому +1

    KA-52 cant attack backwards but apaches can

  • @ghostbirdlary
    @ghostbirdlary Рік тому

    apachee seems like it would do the best because it has like 200 degrees of horizontal gimbal

  • @francis2743
    @francis2743 Рік тому +1

    Yay another video!

  • @DocMcCringeWT
    @DocMcCringeWT Рік тому

    Bro I would bring the Swedish biplanes

  • @alpacaofthemountain8760
    @alpacaofthemountain8760 Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @M0LOCK
    @M0LOCK Рік тому

    I clearly dont know why gaijin dont add its cockpit...it had a full detailed cockpit in gaijin only heli game AH64 air assault...

  • @mk1interactive944
    @mk1interactive944 Рік тому

    why do I feel like the jittering images were my replays xD

  • @TheTamingGamerXSKELLY
    @TheTamingGamerXSKELLY 2 місяці тому

    Floating target war

  • @SerjLevonyuk
    @SerjLevonyuk Рік тому

    Please make modern helicopters vs WW2 bombers turrets only.

  • @cornyking5393
    @cornyking5393 Рік тому

    The ec 665 uht would be disgusting for this challenge.

  • @brandonpropterhoc
    @brandonpropterhoc Рік тому

    Should have gone to the city. To hide and use it to his advantage

  • @kulwiederbach9993
    @kulwiederbach9993 Рік тому +1

    3 Z19Es would get rid off 20 planes.

  • @daveshilling6610
    @daveshilling6610 Рік тому +2

    I would love to see how many apaches it takes to kill a ka52

    • @SuchDoge4242
      @SuchDoge4242 Рік тому +1

      Apparently just a ukranian with a mannpad can easily. Apache got this.

    • @Zerro2585
      @Zerro2585 Рік тому

      The Apache would be toast before it even set sights on the Alligator.

    • @minelo
      @minelo Рік тому +1

      Just take the British Apache and use the Mach 4 Starstreak missiles. If it gets within 7 km the Ka is toast

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Рік тому

      @@SuchDoge4242 Multiple Ukrainians with lots of Manpads*

  • @Zswaney16
    @Zswaney16 Рік тому

    That looks fun ive killed a helo in a biplane by myself also it was easy

  • @frog382
    @frog382 Рік тому

    Next up: Can 30 biplanes take out 4 s-400 systems

  • @Kilimanjarooo
    @Kilimanjarooo Рік тому

    conclusion: a 1000000$ helicopter an get taken out by a 1000$ biplane

  • @kavvi9605
    @kavvi9605 Рік тому

    it was a nice video but the first round clearly had an incompetent pilot.. tbh there were a lot of mistakes, but at least he learned them in a very embarrassing way

  • @EXTREMERULES2009ify
    @EXTREMERULES2009ify Рік тому

    Hey man...first of all YOUR VIDS ARE AMAZING...second, i suggest you to do a new series of vids... maybe its gonna be very interesting .....what do you think to make a team with players like "defyn, smigol, tims, etc" to play against random war thunder player's?

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  Рік тому

      Like all together on a team fighting normal players?

    • @EXTREMERULES2009ify
      @EXTREMERULES2009ify Рік тому

      @@ThunderWithMuffin I don't think that will be fun to play normal games....i think its better to make custom battles vs ather players teams...maybe to make a discord server, so the players can take place with their teams

  • @thisisit3737
    @thisisit3737 Рік тому

    Apache is very good for close up.

  • @maxmedore
    @maxmedore Рік тому

    2:49 partimctamints

  • @aldohuerta3154
    @aldohuerta3154 Рік тому

    I think it would be more epic if the stages and battles were at night

  • @Yyyyyyyyyyy7777
    @Yyyyyyyyyyy7777 Рік тому

    Do strummoser vs modern tanks

  • @joe18425
    @joe18425 Рік тому +1

    I just started playing this.
    I've got the worst planes possible & there seems to be an over population of liberty taking b***ards on the server!!
    Where am I going wrong ?
    I know I'm missing something !!
    Usually a wing, but something more!!

  • @lookdo2451
    @lookdo2451 Рік тому

    Yes

  • @alexlongfur2515
    @alexlongfur2515 Рік тому

    *rapidly skips the Raid Ad*

  • @yuanxinwang8219
    @yuanxinwang8219 Рік тому

    Do low ranked AAA vs an F-4e phantom

  • @Ima184mm
    @Ima184mm Рік тому

    I hope this is the offficial game mode

  • @Hubert_G
    @Hubert_G Рік тому

    do u even locked on those planes ?u could just lock then on and cannon does aiming for u

  • @tagefilipsson785
    @tagefilipsson785 Рік тому +1

    Hi muffin!

  • @O_0195
    @O_0195 Рік тому +1

    banzai time

  • @WTCheatShaming
    @WTCheatShaming Рік тому

    Yeah heli stabilizers or tank stabilizers are broken and have been broken for years in replays

  • @martinculek6792
    @martinculek6792 Рік тому

    All respect to pilot, but i think that the only pilot that should fly the helicopter is Bruce Leeroy

  • @aaronknight1430
    @aaronknight1430 Рік тому

    Please use t34 85 vs k2 black panther ?

  • @ralfhtg1056
    @ralfhtg1056 Рік тому

    Quite unrealistic. The 7, somewhat mm machine guns of 1930s planes are too weak and thus unable to penetrate the armour of the Ka-52.

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Рік тому

      Anything will break if you shoot it enough.

  • @everettbarrett6405
    @everettbarrett6405 Рік тому +1

    Don't most of those bi-planes shoot 7.62? I know Apaches can obsorb up to .50cal. So I cal bs.

    • @sting2death2
      @sting2death2 Рік тому

      Isn't that only from below?

    • @Hubert_G
      @Hubert_G Рік тому

      @@sting2death2 ka52 can bounce 30mm ap shells from 50 meters

  • @ex0ghost837
    @ex0ghost837 Рік тому

    The Ka-50 Pilot wasn't good at all. They had 12 vikhirs. He could launch each every 5 seconds continuesly without waiting 1 by 1 and they would be all gone by the 8km guaranteed range of the vikhir.

    • @Hubert_G
      @Hubert_G Рік тому

      ye i call it BS vikhr are op and only bad heli pilot can lose

  • @Matt.Hemple
    @Matt.Hemple Рік тому +1

    Z19 is most op

  • @Patriot011
    @Patriot011 Рік тому

    EESTI!!!!

  • @mrnoise
    @mrnoise Рік тому

    When is the next event muffin?

  • @shahranyaacob2208
    @shahranyaacob2208 Рік тому

    If those helli Lost the pilot is damn stupid cause he Don't to use the BVR missiles.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @matyaskucera7055
    @matyaskucera7055 Рік тому

    How to join discord

  • @Lazarus_1.0
    @Lazarus_1.0 10 місяців тому

    Pov South Korea vs North Korea

  • @lincolngorham9083
    @lincolngorham9083 3 місяці тому

    I 16 wr has found a challenge

  • @Jesusavesbro
    @Jesusavesbro Рік тому

    Lol

  • @russell33313
    @russell33313 Рік тому

    the biplane players aim like bots

  • @BosnianThugger
    @BosnianThugger Рік тому

    Can i be in one of your vids

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  Рік тому

      Of course, join my discord to receive the announcements on when we do the events

  • @wimschaffer9684
    @wimschaffer9684 Рік тому

    what is the map pls

    • @minelo
      @minelo Рік тому

      First one was city and the second pradesh

  • @hellm870
    @hellm870 Рік тому

    tsk, tsk... amateurs.... In the old days of Heli event battles, I used to kill numerous Ka-50 in a japanese huey. hueys are not faster than biplanes at all. Dodging missiles becomes easier with practice.

  • @pensive7270
    @pensive7270 Рік тому

    Z19E: pathetic

  • @Shinzon23
    @Shinzon23 Рік тому

    2:46 to skip the bullshit sponsorship from Raid...

  • @malachipollard334
    @malachipollard334 Рік тому

    No you're just bad with the copter lol

  • @kampsie1841
    @kampsie1841 Рік тому +1

    based opinion but, AH64 is ugly asf, would prefer to see the Viper next time!!

  • @papi5158
    @papi5158 Рік тому

    ez

  • @akihikosakime4598
    @akihikosakime4598 Рік тому

    bad, realy bad, its like a man vs a bunch of flys, yes you can kill some, but the oter whill alwais stung you

    • @SeductiveWalrus
      @SeductiveWalrus Рік тому

      Is english ur first language? This is not meant in a bad way

  • @ClacKeyTech
    @ClacKeyTech Рік тому

    raid shadow legends is a bad pay to win game

  • @Boeing77747
    @Boeing77747 Рік тому

    First

  • @holstatt6896
    @holstatt6896 7 місяців тому

    Just a reminder that RAID: shadow legends is run by Plarium games, an Israeli gaming company. They should be boycotted.

  • @PlumSack79
    @PlumSack79 Рік тому

    Run your scripts through a grammar app, it'll help shorten and make more concise.

  • @raisen_spydr9551
    @raisen_spydr9551 Рік тому

    What’s ur discord