Don't mean to brag, but my dad, and his dad before him, have been cutting tiles without measuring for YEARS. If only they'd known this trick, the darn things might have actually fit...
Mr. Monster I'm sure you'll appreciate the humor here-- You see my Dad never laid a single tile because he fished his whole life. The upside to that is my family ate very well. The downside, thanks to Old Tony's wisdom and my father's loose lips is that I'll be stuck installing my Mom's first tiled floor while Dad's out on his boat.
Instructions unclear, I could not get the tiles secured in the Lathe. I tried MIG, TIG, Brazing and tapped and threaded bolts to no avail. I'm switching to angle grinders and JB weld.
I thought the "no sine bar" was a classic TOT joke. Why would be teach us how to use it one day and then release a video without it the next?!? Loved the video, awesome trick.
Its nice to see you branch off into other fields from time to time. When my tile guy inevitably leaves me hanging 2/3's through a bathroom remodel (3.5mm) and I have to pretend that was part of the plan around the customers, theres another trick. Cut the width of your carpenter's pencil to your grout line size, and flip a tile over and bob's your uncle. Keeping in mind, factor in the wall trim thickness (3/8-1/2) and half of that is safely your margin of error for your walls, 3/8" around the toilet flange and 1/16ish" to your tub. Practicing holding the pencil square along a square or template can make quick work of adjusting the cut line for windows in T1-11, hardwood or laminate flooring and anything else thats needs to have slight allowances for a non binding fit and gets covered by trim. And if you ever need to find a good carpenter, a bad carpenter will always do a one night stand. A good one comes back and does the second nightstand.
This concept is called scribing. It's used in a ton of different areas of construction actually. As someone who works construction (a lot of trim carpentry, ceramic, carpet tiles, dry wall) I actually hardly ever pull out a tape measure except maybe for the initial start of the project. When you usually have 1/8th-1/4 inch to work with as clearance or give, you can eyeball it really well, or sometimes using the actual pieces you are building with as their own measuring devices works well. A lot of people dont think outside of the box enough to see simple solutions to some things. (And a lot of times you come up with ways of measuring and cutting things to size because your tape measure is too far away and you dont feel like getting it). On the flip side!!!! This is a big reason why I love watching your videos! Watching something being taken down to precision, that makes my ocd so happy. A lot of times its not practical or I'm being rushed to do anything to the perfection I want. Thank you for all of your amazing content!
Absolutely brilliant!!!! As a self confessed idiot that bought a place needing quite a bit of tile work, you have probably saved me several weeks of effort getting all the little bits to fit properly! Thanks so much for sharing!
If you're laying the tile square to the room, just lay the tile upside down over the space you're filling, mark the overlap on the tiles already laid. Cut off at your mark, and right side up, the cut fits to the wall. Also, to avoid small edge tiles, check your layout. If you end up with smalls at the end, move your master line half a tile one way or the other. Now the border tiles will be close to a full tile in size.
this kind of scribing is so useful in so many ways. Also seen plenty in metal/woodworking, construction... Anywhere tolerances are lax enough, it's an ENORMOUS time saver. More than that even, especially when this old house, has crooked walls to begin with. Nice walk through there Mr. Tony. Easy to understand. CGI was adequate, as usual.
Us tile guys like to say: a woman is like a good tile job. Lay it right once, and you can walk over it for the rest of your life.......... Please dont ask me to repeat this around my wife, she’ll hurt me.
With that punchline at the end, this was practically a 4' 27" joke. I love your videos. Edit: awesome tip by the way. Always thought there had to be a clever way to transfer the profile easily.
Nice tutorial. I never learned the tricks. I floored a 1200 sq ft house with 11"×11" tiles. I could get the tiles from the manufacturer or get contractors rate at a tile store. The tiles are very heavy! Keep the videos coming!
As a guy in fla that has his own tile company! Well let’s just say tears are still running!!! You never fail to amuse and inform, in some cases that is. 😂😂😂
Never did diagonal tile but this is something I have seen before and glad I was watching. So to make a short story long I am going to try this the next time I do a diagonal tile job. he he. Spanks for watching.
One of your funniest videos yet! Thanks for keeping me entertained while I try and learn things that either I will never use or never really understand 🤣
As a mole person, I mean tile person... I appreciate the cool tip. There's a bunch of other ways to do it but I've never seen that method and will have to give it a try on the next on-point floor job (fancy tile jargon for diamond pattern). Thanks! love the vids.
My mom's trick was to go to a bunch of tile places & get the broken tiles (free!) and a bunch of decorative (tumbled) rocks/glass. Sand the edges of the broken tiles to keep from getting cut, then grout it all down in cool patterns, with an edge done out of unbroken tiles. Sort of a weird mosaic. It gave the floor good grip, came out flat (modulo the different thicknesses of tile) and looked great. Also cost very little, since 90% of it was free.
Wow man this is a fantastic trick man. That is absolutely fantastic. I have been laying for years and have never seen something so fantastic. Thanks you my friend I am for ever appreciated.
If my wife some how managed to message you with something like " it's been 5 years and the bathroom still isn't fully tiled". I have to give her credit, it's been 11 years and yes this was the best way to get me to finish it. Thank you Tony from my wife and 2 Kidd's. Oh and Tony you can be all proud of your self, now show me how to tile so that they don't slowly move down the wall after that perfect fit up and depth...
WHY DOES THAT HAPPEN?! Everytime I think, hmmmmm that could do with being a bit bigger or smaller, then I re cut one and it ends up the same size as the last!?!?
I would like to see you use some shop tools to bake next Tone. I think this whole multifaceted direction you are taking the channel warrants some cooking in the home shop.
Doing a boarder is faster, produces less waist, and looks much better. I'm doing the layout for the Border, make sure you're 45 tiles come out to whole halves; adjust the boarder width accordingly. This works best with small tile like the ones you're looking at. But for larger tile, I've done exactly what you described many thousands of times.
That's what I was taught except instead of a template, just use one of the tiles. Also, don't do them all at once, it's wasteful. The one that you cut the little corner out of can be spun 180 degrees and get the next bit out of.
...that is frkkn genius!!..the most useful tip ive got out of yt,..and i never work with metal,..i just like yr show.I've never expected to actually use what you teach,..it's just fascinating fun tv,..thanx!
The corner piece will be slightly off though, if you do the math. If you don't do the math, it's probably fine. If your tile pattern is exactly 45 degrees, this works fine. The greater the error, the less accurate the corner piece will be, since you move it diagonally.
That is verrry slick. I teach at a community college in the skilled trades dept - never seen that. Never done tile work full time, but I have enough paying gigs under my belt that I have seen...some things. Thanks Tony. ps love the sine bar stuff - math it up!
I just paused a video of a guy building an insane one of a kind guitar to go listen to a machinist explain how to cut ceramic tile around all the goofy walls in my bathroom. I'm beginning to become somewhat concerned about the state my mental health. Also, cheers!!
I love your intelligent content with a relaxed tone. Obviously, the jokes you tell are top NOTCH as well... Lol, get it? Well you shouldn't because there was no pun and it was just nonsense.
Well that is about as close to doing tiling as I'm ever going to get ! Did you check all those tiles on the surface plate to ensure they are all perfectly square and the same thickness ? I think Stefan is just about to do a tiling video as well , he just bought a new power scraper and i think he is going to scrape each individual tile flat and square - well maybe he will after surface grinding the floor flat 😀
I used this trick to lay around 500 tiles in a hour in a home depot store, Would have gotten more laid if security had not kicked me out.
😂😂😂😂😂
That’s it? Good job little buddy😊
A much better trick is to decide to do it later and just get used to how it looks
This is how modern art is made.
Now that’s a thinkin man right there
Don't mean to brag, but my dad, and his dad before him, have been cutting tiles without measuring for YEARS.
If only they'd known this trick, the darn things might have actually fit...
Mr Monster you sir. Win the internet! This comment be gold!
Mr Monster that means you’re the best at cutting tile w/o measuring.
LOL.
not gonna lie, they had us in the first half
Mr. Monster I'm sure you'll appreciate the humor here-- You see my Dad never laid a single tile because he fished his whole life. The upside to that is my family ate very well. The downside, thanks to Old Tony's wisdom and my father's loose lips is that I'll be stuck installing my Mom's first tiled floor while Dad's out on his boat.
My Dad showed me exactly this trick in about 1978. Are you my Dad? Just how long does it take to go out for a pack of cigarettes?
My dad showed it to me as and told me it was a family secret. Shortly after I found it printed on the box the tile came in.
@@renof2505 haha 😂
Let me play you a song on my tiny violin
thank you god I wished I had thought of that ! wonder if it's safe to head home now?
Was your dad an Army surgeon during the Korean War?
I usually cut the walls to fit the tiles, but this works too, I guess.
for real just use the multitool to add some slots to the baseboards
Exactly, or just hammer 'em in.
Lol perfect
Instructions unclear, I could not get the tiles secured in the Lathe. I tried MIG, TIG, Brazing and tapped and threaded bolts to no avail. I'm switching to angle grinders and JB weld.
haha
He clearly said use drywall screws!
Painters tape + superglue!
Did you try to stick weld em usually works for me
My dad used bondo before. It works great!
Where is this going... AHA! Had no clue. Glad to be in the know from now on, thanks!
Taking a break from MMX for some TOT!? Back to work!? ;-)
What he said Martin 😂
Now you can make the floor _under_ the MMX too! :-)
Surprised to see you here. Although, it does make sense in a sense... bananas!
This is also how ToT laid out the angles for the giant red pointer in the old olive grove
I’m never using my sine bar to tile a floor again! Seriously though, great trick, thanks for sharing.
I thought the "no sine bar" was a classic TOT joke. Why would be teach us how to use it one day and then release a video without it the next?!? Loved the video, awesome trick.
I should try this technique, I’m just used to cutting corners
You still will be!😁
Gotta be careful with those euphemisms...when the tile guy showed up and said lets lay some tile, he got really upset when I shrugged and got naked
Next video: trim the bushes.
@@spudpud-T67 I think Ave did an electric bikini trimmer video some time ago
@@kylejscheffler He did, but did you see what he was planning to use as a tool. If that was the tool I'd say no to topiary.
Layin' pipe for my baby.
Is laying tile the same as pounding sand?
Sites most visited after watching one of Tony's Videos; McMaster, Wolfram Alpha, now Urban Dictionary 😄
Worth checking Roger's Profanisarus too.
Mind Blown! You just saved me 72 hours of tile work and now I don't have to buy a sine calculator!!! Thank you so much!!
Pfff, tricks are for amateurs. I can usually eyeball it to within 500 thou.
@steve gale 🤔 ya don't say...
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@@red_freckle Don't ya hate it when someone misses the joke ...
Nice, thick grout lines hide everything. Use your thumb as a gauge (around .497)
omglaulz
Its nice to see you branch off into other fields from time to time. When my tile guy inevitably leaves me hanging 2/3's through a bathroom remodel (3.5mm) and I have to pretend that was part of the plan around the customers, theres another trick. Cut the width of your carpenter's pencil to your grout line size, and flip a tile over and bob's your uncle. Keeping in mind, factor in the wall trim thickness (3/8-1/2) and half of that is safely your margin of error for your walls, 3/8" around the toilet flange and 1/16ish" to your tub.
Practicing holding the pencil square along a square or template can make quick work of adjusting the cut line for windows in T1-11, hardwood or laminate flooring and anything else thats needs to have slight allowances for a non binding fit and gets covered by trim.
And if you ever need to find a good carpenter, a bad carpenter will always do a one night stand.
A good one comes back and does the second nightstand.
Thanks Tony! Stored this trick away and used it two years later. Brilliant!!!
Imagining you tiling around moveable objects makes me happy.
Every single one of your videos is a treasure. You're easily the best thing on the internet. Apart from that one site with all the cat pictures.
You forgot the part where you mix up all the pieces after you've bulk cut them and spend the next hour assembling a puzzle.
This concept is called scribing. It's used in a ton of different areas of construction actually. As someone who works construction (a lot of trim carpentry, ceramic, carpet tiles, dry wall) I actually hardly ever pull out a tape measure except maybe for the initial start of the project. When you usually have 1/8th-1/4 inch to work with as clearance or give, you can eyeball it really well, or sometimes using the actual pieces you are building with as their own measuring devices works well. A lot of people dont think outside of the box enough to see simple solutions to some things. (And a lot of times you come up with ways of measuring and cutting things to size because your tape measure is too far away and you dont feel like getting it).
On the flip side!!!! This is a big reason why I love watching your videos! Watching something being taken down to precision, that makes my ocd so happy. A lot of times its not practical or I'm being rushed to do anything to the perfection I want. Thank you for all of your amazing content!
Absolutely brilliant!!!!
As a self confessed idiot that bought a place needing quite a bit of tile work, you have probably saved me several weeks of effort getting all the little bits to fit properly!
Thanks so much for sharing!
Despite the fact that most people will be floored by this video, I still appreciate your work Tony! 👍🏻👊🏻
Tilers hate him. Look how you can save time and money with this simple trick!
priit mölder the secret tile guys DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW!!!!!
If you're laying the tile square to the room, just lay the tile upside down over the space you're filling, mark the overlap on the tiles already laid. Cut off at your mark, and right side up, the cut fits to the wall. Also, to avoid small edge tiles, check your layout. If you end up with smalls at the end, move your master line half a tile one way or the other. Now the border tiles will be close to a full tile in size.
I have seen the samurai carpenter use this trick. You explained it very well. This is a reference for future generations to come.
As a handyman. This is the best trick for tile I've seen to date. Can not wait to try it out!
this kind of scribing is so useful in so many ways. Also seen plenty in metal/woodworking, construction...
Anywhere tolerances are lax enough, it's an ENORMOUS time saver. More than that even,
especially when this old house, has crooked walls to begin with.
Nice walk through there Mr. Tony. Easy to understand. CGI was adequate, as usual.
This is the real reason for the sine bar video
i realize that i'm 4+ years late to this dance, but this is genius!!! TOT isn't just entertaining, but also informative. sharing is caring.
As a flooring installer I can say this works great...
Richard Langford and when it DOESNT work......us professionals have our tile stretcher !!!!!
Awesome. Been setting tile for years and this is the first I’ve heard of this, looks like it’d save a lot of time. Thanks for sharing
I wasn't sitting down.
I passed out and struck my head on jagged and misaligned tiles.
I will listen to your advice next time.
I only look atthis channel to watch someone else working, while I am at work pretending to be working. Carry on . Nice !
Maybe I'm just a moron, but I think this is the most amazing video on youtube.
Possibly both, but I join the club. No sh*t!
Tony's got a lot of amazing videos, hard to pick one.
HOLY SH!T I have been tiling for years, and I have NEVER seen a better tip. thank you!
Good advice TOT. Didn't work so good when I did my silo floor though.
Tot means death in German and it was weird for me seeing it in caps while scrolling 😂 I know you mean T.. his O.. ld T.. ony
Just be aware, this method does not work with metric tiles.
troll
Not true, it does - you just have to use metric cardboard for the template. Or, if you don't have a metric cardboard, a metric engineer's square.
@@wojciech_migda I confirm, I used this trick with metric walls
Quick, informative and still entertaining. What a nice little treasure here on yt!
Mind blown. 🤯 who knew laying tile had a double meaning. 🤷🏻♂️
Well obviously ToT did which makes me wonder how. 🤔
its the new double entendre tile
Pekka Saarinen his wife. 🤣
robotparadise punny. 🤣
Us tile guys like to say: a woman is like a good tile job. Lay it right once, and you can walk over it for the rest of your life..........
Please dont ask me to repeat this around my wife, she’ll hurt me.
With that punchline at the end, this was practically a 4' 27" joke. I love your videos.
Edit: awesome tip by the way. Always thought there had to be a clever way to transfer the profile easily.
Seriously, who dislikes Tony’s videos?!
Nice tutorial. I never learned the tricks. I floored a 1200 sq ft house with 11"×11" tiles. I could get the tiles from the manufacturer or get contractors rate at a tile store. The tiles are very heavy! Keep the videos coming!
As a guy in fla that has his own tile company! Well let’s just say tears are still running!!! You never fail to amuse and inform, in some cases that is. 😂😂😂
I'll literally watch anything you do
Steve Copley dare. I want him to do a 20m video of eating a sandwich.
Be careful what you wish for.
@@MazzeruAcciacatore only 20 minutes? At LEAST an hour!
Don’t you have anything else to do?
It's scary how accurate that is
Never did diagonal tile but this is something I have seen before and glad I was watching. So to make a short story long I am going to try this the next time I do a diagonal tile job. he he. Spanks for watching.
One of your funniest videos yet! Thanks for keeping me entertained while I try and learn things that either I will never use or never really understand 🤣
As a mole person, I mean tile person... I appreciate the cool tip. There's a bunch of other ways to do it but I've never seen that method and will have to give it a try on the next on-point floor job (fancy tile jargon for diamond pattern). Thanks! love the vids.
Very inventive trick. Channel should be called This Old Jack.
What the heck!!! Whoever figured this out is as mathematically inclined as any other mathemetician! Thats so cool!
Mind = Blown. best channel on YT, hands down (and thumbs up)
New welding and fabrication channel up. Idaho fabricator! He’s doing great work. The guy needs more subs :)
Oh Tony, you are full of it.... full of knowledge that is. I appreciate your humor as well.
Your teachings help me a lot in my DIY
This Old Tile... nice trick, thanks dude.
I love watching your videos, the wittiness is the best cure to a dull day!
My mom's trick was to go to a bunch of tile places & get the broken tiles (free!) and a bunch of decorative (tumbled) rocks/glass. Sand the edges of the broken tiles to keep from getting cut, then grout it all down in cool patterns, with an edge done out of unbroken tiles. Sort of a weird mosaic. It gave the floor good grip, came out flat (modulo the different thicknesses of tile) and looked great. Also cost very little, since 90% of it was free.
Wow man this is a fantastic trick man. That is absolutely fantastic. I have been laying for years and have never seen something so fantastic. Thanks you my friend I am for ever appreciated.
If my wife some how managed to message you with something like " it's been 5 years and the bathroom still isn't fully tiled". I have to give her credit, it's been 11 years and yes this was the best way to get me to finish it. Thank you Tony from my wife and 2 Kidd's.
Oh and Tony you can be all proud of your self, now show me how to tile so that they don't slowly move down the wall after that perfect fit up and depth...
Stop taking fun out of tiling! It's not fun if I don't have to cut twice and still have 3/8 gap for some reason.
WHY DOES THAT HAPPEN?! Everytime I think, hmmmmm that could do with being a bit bigger or smaller, then I re cut one and it ends up the same size as the last!?!?
If you wanted the same size, then they would be different.
@@UberAlphaSirus Laying tile in cali sux! every tremor moves one wall or another and I'm not talking about the ones I have.
I've had that problem before. I've cut it twice and it's still too short.
cut twice, curse once
I would like to see you use some shop tools to bake next Tone. I think this whole multifaceted direction you are taking the channel warrants some cooking in the home shop.
Creme Brûlée using acetelene....
WOW³ this is brilliant! Thanks a lot! An actual transposition of angles referring to the relative position.....yes my darling, coming up soon!
While we're on the topic of cutting tiles... If you soak them in water overnight, they'll cut with a butter knife or pizza wheel.
NoGufff yeah, but they’ll shrink a day later!!!!
This also works for pizza
Try adding a little bi-carb to soften the water.
Alden Zenko
I always use this trick for pizza!
I can’t stand pizza not cut this way now
Nice trick.
Tile is a pain to clean after but I've found that welding over drywall panels reduces the incidence of shop fires a lot.
Just learned new English euphemism as I had to google it... And also word euphemism.
Thank you Tony for all important things you teach us.
Doing a boarder is faster, produces less waist, and looks much better. I'm doing the layout for the Border, make sure you're 45 tiles come out to whole halves; adjust the boarder width accordingly. This works best with small tile like the ones you're looking at. But for larger tile, I've done exactly what you described many thousands of times.
Wow!! This is ingenious! I love any way possible to be more efficient! May have to watch this 5 more times, tho..
-Linda H.
So glad I watched this I'm about to tile a countertop.
Love it!!! You got to the point and quickly demonstrated… some videos take so long to get to the nitty gritty 😅
That's what I was taught except instead of a template, just use one of the tiles. Also, don't do them all at once, it's wasteful. The one that you cut the little corner out of can be spun 180 degrees and get the next bit out of.
this is actually a video I can share with my friends. nice trick, thanks for sharing.
...that is frkkn genius!!..the most useful tip ive got out of yt,..and i never work with metal,..i just like yr show.I've never expected to actually use what you teach,..it's just fascinating fun tv,..thanx!
I was once a tile professional and I approve this message.
I love this channel. I likely will never touch a tool showcased but I still love this channel XD
Thanks! My wife will be so happy that I learned this trick that we'll be "putting up shelves" more often.
Hey Tony. Are you still planning on making that surface gauge you talked about a while back? Also, when you hit 500k subs, you should do a shop tour!
I also still want to see the surface gauge.
This needs more upvotes.
I had to check, I could've sworn he had at least 750,000 subscribers.
The corner piece will be slightly off though, if you do the math. If you don't do the math, it's probably fine.
If your tile pattern is exactly 45 degrees, this works fine. The greater the error, the less accurate the corner piece will be, since you move it diagonally.
As always entertaining as well as informative. Thanks Tony.
This is basically what boatbuilders call "spiling". It's a good trick.
And to think that I have tiled my bathroom not even a month ago...
Great trick and great video, as always!
I seriously thought you were trolling us till the last 30 seconds, super cool!
That is verrry slick. I teach at a community college in the skilled trades dept - never seen that. Never done tile work full time, but I have enough paying gigs under my belt that I have seen...some things.
Thanks Tony.
ps love the sine bar stuff - math it up!
Now I have way too much tile ordered and the homeowner watches your vids. thanks
Thank u for taking the effort to teach people a trick.
I hate laying tile, but this is certainly a great trick to know! Thanks for sharing!
Can you go back in time with the lathe and upload this before I re-tiled the bathroom? Thank you.
When watching your channel, I must learn to expect the unexpected. Euphemism, I laughed for a while.
I just paused a video of a guy building an insane one of a kind guitar to go listen to a machinist explain how to cut ceramic tile around all the goofy walls in my bathroom. I'm beginning to become somewhat concerned about the state my mental health. Also, cheers!!
I ENRAPTURED BY YOUR LINE OF THOUGHT IN DOING IT DIFFERENTLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH TAKE CARE
We just need to give this man a Nobel for awesomeness...
I love your intelligent content with a relaxed tone. Obviously, the jokes you tell are top NOTCH as well... Lol, get it? Well you shouldn't because there was no pun and it was just nonsense.
I do handyman, and this was cool man, I'll be following you , wow keep it simple
Tony, stop bringing yourself down! Those graphics were amazing!
I've used the same trick to cut tile laid square to the room - works a treat.
In next episode of This Old Tony: Oil paiting ;)
Marcin Krukar , Bob Ross style:
Here we gonna use some prussian blue.
Ohh! I want to see how to make "happy, happy trees" on a lathe.
@ *Sans Decorum* thought about clouds first, but "happy little" definitely was in that thought, too 😂
Tomyp89 We all know there will only be happy little accidents after.
"let's put it in the vise and just beat the devil out of it"
Unrelated to this video but... glad to see Wintergatan use your gears finally! And giving you a good 30 sec plug.... even Ave threw you in again...
Thanks Tony, you teach me and you make me laugh, that takes special skills my man.
The best part is this trick works even for laying out a grid pattern. :D
Had to watch twice before I found the "subscribe". Well done, TOT. I was expecting it on the pencil.
So the last video was a long set-up for the sine bar reference? I'll take it. Thanks, man.
No, it was a longer set up for the euphemism gag.
Sorry, misread your post. "Last video"
Totally ingenious! Great tutorial.
Well that is about as close to doing tiling as I'm ever going to get ! Did you check all those tiles on the surface plate to ensure they are all perfectly square and the same thickness ? I think Stefan is just about to do a tiling video as well , he just bought a new power scraper and i think he is going to scrape each individual tile flat and square - well maybe he will after surface grinding the floor flat 😀