I don't even look at how long his stuff is I just start watching and before I know it I'm 2 hours into a binge wondering why my wife just left (my wife did not leave it's a joke) I hope
I'm literally watching hours of his videos lately. Tis isn't ever too much. I could quit my job to watch these videos... Oh and now I want a garage full of machines, chucks drills, comparators, instruments and lots of nasty stuff mixed with oil and steel chips
The arctot is equal to the difference between two calculated capital numbers which are measured with a Cosine error tampered test indicator on a sinebar floating in space.
I aced trig in high school like >95% A aced it, as well as calculus (trig gets thrown in often, especially in a standard calc 2 curriculum.) This is possibly the best real-world scenario that I've seen for where trig can be applied.
@@JosueRodriguez08 I don’t think he’s hating on someone who likes math. I think he’s hating on the bragging Niko N had to do before making his actual point.
@@innes2892 he was probably staying that he aced those classes cause somebody would've questioned what makes him credible and why they should listen to me
Had a real hard time learning trig in school. It was only until I learned what the real world use of it was that I actual understood it. I remember asking the teacher back in high school what it was use for only to be directed to a posted hung on the wall that was a chart with what careers used what types of math, Out of likely 30 careers listed trig was only indicated on math teacher and rocket scientist. What an udder fail. I'm sure if I grew up in a manufacturing heavy city 50 years ago I would have had no issues learning it as it was be taught practically how it was actually used.
Well.. Yes...it's a bit like when Neo Sees the Matrix before his very eyes at the end of the film, or how Emmet Brickowski sees al the partnumbers and possibilities in the Lego Movie.. once you see it.. you feel like.. "That's all?".. I worked with Sinebars a lot, Just like This old Tony, i made one myself, since i needed it for very precise grinding of angles.. My last Math Teacher "handed me the tools" he made me see it.. and from that moment on, i was able to calculate Cartesian coordinates from drawings with polar dimensions, i could calculate the trail of a motorbike, by measuring the Fork angle, the offset, Fork length and wheel diameter.. all of the sudden.. these things couldn't hide their secrets from me.. I always say, if you can use math in everyday life, it becomes easy.. because you're using it all the time..
@Evi1M4chine 3b1b helped me get a degree. I had been through three damned courses talking about Fourier, and his video explained it in a new way that made sense and allowed me to understand Fourier's work at a deeper level.
After you get the sine bar you will then need to convince her you need a granite plate to use it on, then explain why they are so expensive and you can't just use a scrap cutoff from the local countertop place, then explain why it needs to be on 3 feet a very specific distance from the sides. The bright side is she will eventually throw her hands up and say "as long as it makes you happy". Not that I would ever talk from experience...
@@avocares hahahaha love it man. I've already googled "can you use granite countertop as a surface plate" and the answer was "you need a sine bar and mill first"
Having been married 4 times and this last one for over 20 years... I finally figured it out. I mean how to get your wife to WANT you to buy toys... I mean tools. Make stuff for her. It's that simple. Or in order for you to do something that she wants, show her how this new tool (insert any damn tool you need) will help you do what she WANTS you to do. OH, and it does help if you bring her to your working area and let her watch you do some magical thing like cutting a special thread on a small part. OH... I forgot to tell you. If by chance you are one of those who believe that opposites attract... that isn't love its lust. so... Hopefully you were smarter than I was and you only married once and she has A LOT in common with you. Then she will understand exactly what the hell you are doing and why. That way, when you say "Honey, how about we go to Woodcraft and look at the wood lathes." and she says..." How about we go to Woodcraft and buy a wood lathe." You will know you have chosen wisely... BUT... be damn sure you make stuff for her!!! Now. How did I get my first metal lathe? I had a great rifle that I loved but I found a South Bend 9A lathe that I wanted more. I traded. Here is the small lesson. If you sell something, use that money to buy something to replace it. Similarly, if you are going to trade something, trade it for something you are going to replace it with. I had a great rifle that my grandpa had given me so the ole 30.06 just wasn't needed any more. hence my new lathe. Good hunting!! OH, and in case I forgot to mention it... make stuff for her!!!
10:40 Looking at your box of gauge blocks, I'm very sorry to be the one who breaks the news, but you clearly got a defective set - they're pretty obviously all the exact same height...
I always wondered what sine and cosine actually represented. Nobody ever explained it, even in my college trig class. All I knew was to look it up in some table. The explanation with the flashlight and shadow length? Priceless! Every trig class from here on should include this clip. Thanks a million for your wonderful videos. (And I don’t even have any metalworking tools!)
Ladder historian here. The people climbing the ladders did not die from the fall, there were long dead before they hit the ground from suffering a severe case of Triginosis. They lost the ability to calculate angles, died, and then fell. Don't trust me? Don't go look it up.
@@denism8494 Dry ice salesman here, who moonlights short-selling stocks of life insurance companies. I have just the thing for you to use to chock your ladder.
Some intelligent Person once said, if you can‘t explain something in an easy way, you did not understand it. You made it look so easy, i feel stupid because I had a lot of trouble understanding it years ago. You really should be a teacher if you aren‘t already. Your Videos are always informative, funny and captivating. You really have a Talent to make dull things feel like the most interesting thing in the world. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and skill.
"Some intelligent person"? If you consider Einstein to be "intelligent," he said, "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. "
Buckhorn Cortez yes, that is what I was thinking of. Didn‘t take the Time to look it up, just remembered it roughly and that somebody extraordinarily intelligent said it.
Q: Why is a 5" Sine Bar the most popular? A: 5" converted to metric is 127.00mm the first time imperial measurements and metric measurements are whole numbers.
I've been a toolmaker for 45 years and also a metrologist for 26 years. A sine bar and a set of gauge blocks are just awesome tools to have in your tool shop. It's probably the most accurate way to set something at an angle or to determine an angle.
Man you got it all wrong! Sine is what your kid does at the bank when they want to buy a car and promises to pay for it, cosine is what the bank makes you do so they give your kid a loan for the car, then cosine error is when the cosine ends up paying for the car because the sine didn't make the payments. And that my friends is why a sine bar looks like a little car with a rear spoiler.
I love this. I'm a high school maths teacher (that's right.... mathS) and I've never really used trig beyond theoretical applications. As someone with little to no experience USING trig, it's hard to convey this mathemagics to students. But this video is a beginning. I need to learn more so I can impart these important concepts better.
I don't know if you teach equation of a line slope intercept formula but I am a retired millwright and I used that formula to align pumps and motors to one another. The centerl ine of the shafts are the lines that have to be within a couple thousands of an inch.
Definitely fell into the "Age where other stuff is on the mind" while trying to learn trig. Thanks for this video, it helped to visualize some of the stuff I can faintly remember hearing mentioned while passed out with my head on the desk.
I'd love to type something funny here, but my mind is still blown. I am 47 years old and have always had a massive mental block when it comes to trigonmeshopmath. I feel like those reference tables and the clever buttons on the calculator are genuinely approachable now. Honestly, sincerely, I am truly grateful for this. Thank you, and please keep doing what you do.
That is a good graphic, pity I can't input 2 values and get the graphic to show the graphic and all the other values. That would be a useful app... Any one listening?
The biggest issue with math and school is the inability of schools to relate it to anything practical. Once we know why it’s useful it makes it easier to want to learn.
That's the problem with all modern education. They took away ALL practicals. Teachers are ranting wankers who don't even practice what they're teaching. :/ Screaming textbooks at children all day isn't a very ethical job. Teachers are way overpaid for being text to speech programs.
True, the first time I learned sine and cosine was from a beginner's video game developing tutorial because you needed them to make objects move at an angle, and because of that I always remember them
When public education is forced funded and education is mandated, it is no surprise the quality and usefulness goes down. Consider that many public schools are also daycare centers and indoctrinate siphoning funds away from real useful practical education. Consider universities mandating all sorts of diversity classes and such to get a degree. It is indoctrination coupled with a type of extortion. Consider people taking classes for what they want to learn are more likely to work to learn. Likewise when parents and guardians are involved with their children's education, the children are more likely to learn. School choice is a step in a better direction.
While I may never need to solve a quadratic equation in my daily life, math is hands-on training in manipulating concepts in my mind. It teaches you how to think. I may not be a great thinker, but I am a retired engineer (maybe never a very good one). Since my retirement, I try not to think too much.
Holy fuck, I have, for some reason, never properly understood trig. I am in high school, and this is about the best explanation for it and has helped me really understand it
Okay, so now that a YT machinist has taught something that none of my so called "teachers" could (30 years after I graduated *cough* high school), where do I go for my certificate from ToT Universtoty?
That's exactly what I was thinking... ToT just taught me more in less than half an hour than I ever learned in one semester. Thanks, Tony! A horse walks into a sine bar. The bartender asks: "Why the long face?" A pirate walks into a sine bar with a steering wheel attached to the front of his pants. The bartender says "Hey, you got a steering wheel on the front of your pants!" The pirate says "Arrrr! And it's drivin' me nuts!"
The problem teachers face with this kind of dry subject is putting it into a context that students will be interested in and concentrate. Viewers of this old channel are interested in making lumps of metal different shapes. Tony can use applicable examples to show how it all works which makes the information bit more interesting and you engage more. In a class of 30 to 40 students, very few of them will have a similar set of interests, so teachers are limited in how to show what they are teaching in a real world setting. This gives rise to people saying 'when will I ever use this crap after I leave school?. In a job I had many years ago I had to help a guy set CCTV cameras up to monitor banks of slot machines for a couple of days whilst his assistant was out sick. Now how they used to do it was one would watch the monitor whilst the other would tweak settings and lenses on the camera. This seemed like a long winded way to so it. So I asked if we could try one camera my way, with that evening's beers riding on the success of my idea. I took the tape measure and measured the length of the bank on slot machines, the height of them, the height of the ceiling, and the angle of the lens' field of view. Then using a bit of trigonometry, worked out how far away from the machines the camera should be located, the angle from the machines both in relation to the ceiling and to the bank of machines. Armed with may calculations, I measured out where the camera was to be located and mounted it, used an old school protractor to set the angles and hooked up the cable. The only tweak we needed was to focus the camera and then agree to what time my colleague would be getting the first beer in. It took about 1/5th of the time they used to take and as far as I know, they're still using my method and enjoying longer breaks because they 'forgot' to tell our manager they found a quicker way to do the job. Even the strangest maths taught in school can crop up in every day life.
I need to watch this video at least 4 more times. I have done a lot of machining in my trade over the decades without being formally trained and poor math skills. My desire to machine and create parts have overridden the skills I don't possess, and this lesson is incredibly helpful. Thank you for the lessons you teach.
🤯 Tony, I wish you were my high school math teacher. I always had trouble with trig. You just simplified it to the point that my minuscule mind could digest it. Being a crane operator, we deal with a little trig. However, nothing on the scale that you machinists mess with. Thanks for yet another great video! 🙂👍
HOLY COW!! 44 years after flunking Trig. I now understand Sine and Cosine! If I had just watched this video before that stupid test I might have been a physicist!
TOT - 1. Florida Public Schools - 0. Yet again you have done for me what 2 years of high school math couldn't do. I was trying too learn back then too. Thanks. Your self proclaimed biggest fan, John.
Tony - thank you so much for your wonderful teaching videos! You should get the "Teacher of the Year" award every year! Are you a rocket scientist in your night job? You are so smart. God Bless you and your family.
Only co-sign I know of is when you buy a big ticket item. I asked my high school sweetheart if she wanted to get in the back seat,she said "no, I want to stay in the front seat with you."
I'm with you mate. Nice comment and I love your sense of humor. Personally I wasn't sure whether my head was spinning because of what Tony was saying or it was because of the alcohol.
tell me about it. one run to translate it to spanish. another to understand the imperial units. another for the math and the last one to put it all back together
How dare you. I love that word! The unit circle defines me as much as it defines the relationship between angles and sides on right triangles. Coincidentally, I don't actually do any machining.
For those that don't walk around with all this stuff on the top of their head, you put it very well. Next, you can show them how to use the exponent key to figure thepayments on their new haas super mini mill.
You Sir, have a gift for bringing life to dry concepts that should be the aspiration of professional educators everywhere but somehow isn't. Therin lies the fly in the conventional western didactic ointment. Anytime you find yourself at a loss for subject matter, a lesson like this would be appreciated. Thank you This old Tony.
Nice simple explanation in a shop context. The use of the roundstock to keep the hypotenuse exactly the same when supported from below with a simple jack is pretty smart. I feel like I just watched a 3brown1blue video with really really good cgi.
one of the coolest explanations EVER on this topic. i have brushed shoulders with many instructors in many schools of thought, college full time at 15yrs old, trade school in California, IBEW trade school in Missouri, Technical school in Tennessee, and now a deep yerning to learn machinists theory and protocals considering all the equiptment i have aquired over the years for 'pipe-dream' projects. i have never heard such perfect, easy to understand, examples of trig functions...ever. WELL DONE. thank you very much for your videos sir. Precise, reasoning, humor, examples, ect., perfect mix.
Thank you....coming from a younger wanna be machinist......I managed to watch every second of this video, then I noticed 800k people watched a video on a sine bar....now I have a little more faith in this world
It blows my mind that you(a hobbyist) are better at teaching math than my math teachers were... P.s. I dont normally comment but thought I'd thank you for all the laughs and entertainment you have given me over the years. So Thank you!
To state the oblivious... XD... nearly 3 years on and I don't know how many times I've watched this and I'm still finding jokes... hats off, sir, hats off.
Now I finally know where sine , cosine and tangent are derived from. I wish my old maths teacher would have explained this as clearly as you just did. Thank you.
@@igorbarbarossa - heh. In Ontario back in 2002 we had gr 9-12 and OAC. www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Academic_Credit&ved=2ahUKEwj20ebMlZPfAhURrYMKHV6IACwQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0hSLoKDtpllCDzdYxoOOls
Machining is wild. I have no idea how I found this channel, never wondered about machining, and now I've watched hours and hours of this guy. Awesome. I've learned more about Trig from this homie than I did an entire semester listening to an escaped USSR scientist in college. Had to teach myself the entire friggin' time and get my mind blown in 5 minutes by TOT
Not complaining ether, phunny as pharq! But, he probably has been able to quit his 'day job'. With over 1M subscribers (no doubt due to underhanded subliminal messages!) he shoul be getting quite the cheque from UT! Over 130k views of this one so far! Love it!!
Tony, trig is a very useful piece of mathematics, one I use regularly. I grew up in the time before calculators, and used sine, cos and tan tables and a slide rule in high school and through university.
By far the most valuable video for what I lacked in the machine shop ive seen yet. You explained it so well I actually understand what it means aswell as how to use it. Thank you!
Where would i be if i watched this video 36 years ago. I just now understand and am excited to go to math class tomorrow! Im definitely going to file this under future starting video for grandson pre highschool math class! Thanks from one old man to another 🙏
Tony, you managed to hammer in my brain in just 2 minutes (6:00 to 8:00) what a math teacher barely could in 3 months 15 years ago. And still, why am I still watching your videos if I only have a bandsaw and some woodworking tools?!
there was once a great hunter, he was married to a Cherokee lady that was every bit as great a hunter as him. every night they would make love on the skin of a hippopotamus they killed on their honeymoon. sadly she was killed by a couple of bears before they had any children. our great hunter of course killed the two bears and kept their hides. eventually he found love again in the arms of a sweet Apache girl. they would make love every night on the bear hides that had taken his first wife ,she was a terrible hunter but did produce a fine son who grew up to be as good as his father and his first wife. what does it all mean ?? the squaw rooted on the hippopotamus is equal to the son of the squaw rooted on the other two hides
I so wish that you had been my maths teacher when I was in school in the 1980's. Sine and cosine were very much a vague concept but this video explained it in a way that none of my teachers ever did. I actually understand it now! Brilliant channel, Tony.
You only did one yeah of trig in High School? Back in the Eighties we had 5 years of High School and trig was part of the syllabus every year. (Full disclosure, I took Mathematics right through Matric)
I memorized SOH CAH TOA. This has served me well my entire engineering career. Very interesting to learn about sine bars. I had no idea. I have no machining experience. Only your subtle humor makes me listen to 26 minutes of tirg. Nice job.
A heat treated sine bar was a school project while I was apprenticing. I wonder what became of it. Great memories of making it bud. Many thanks fella ! We did our math with no calculators. A time gone by eh. Great refresher bud.
This brings back memories of high school related class. RIP Mr. Levesque you were a good teacher. Wouldn't be able to feed my family today if it weren't for you. 🤘
some of this went over my head, at about 17:09 I'm gonna have to watch this video several times. The first part was very eye opening. I remember taking Trigonometry in college, I could never could get thru it, and I wasn't exposed enough to it in high school, or just wasn't taught well, back in 1982. when I went back to college, in 1992, I was still lost, and had to take rudimentary math again, to get back into the game. I have never had any instructor, who had the ability to teach this subject like Tony. Visual aides help a lot, with today's technology, it should be easy, but I suspect teachers are still using antiquated techniques to teach this subject. I want to learn this again, I'm 56yo, it may take me longer, but damn, Tony makes it very interesting. I'm enjoying this so much!
You actually have those functions on your phone--You open the calculator function, and turn your phone horizontal and the the screen flips to wide with the trig functions. The "INV" key will give you the arc functions. My phone is also smarter than I.
@@SianaGearz He did that in post-production. Watch some of his other videos. The first one that comes to mind is the one he did on the "OPUS" die filer, he changed what it said on the front of the machine.
You are the only person on this planet that can get me to watch a 26 min video about tr... shop-math
This is pretty great.
I don't even look at how long his stuff is I just start watching and before I know it I'm 2 hours into a binge wondering why my wife just left (my wife did not leave it's a joke) I hope
@@christianderbyshire744 LOL I HEARD THAT BROTHA'
That was 26 m8nutes? Oh, right. Wonderful!
I'm literally watching hours of his videos lately. Tis isn't ever too much. I could quit my job to watch these videos... Oh and now I want a garage full of machines, chucks drills, comparators, instruments and lots of nasty stuff mixed with oil and steel chips
love how you started a video about sine bars and angles, but ended going off on a tangent.
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I love and hate that you said that 😂😂
RDRR
I guess that struck a chord with you !
Yes. I found these concepts to be VERY poorly explained. Flashlights? Get real.
"And remember, the shift key on your calculator is not just for typing capital numbers".
Thanks! I missed numbers and heard letters. Too funny!
One button on the calculator read "tot" and another one "tot^-1" - so cool.
On the subscribulator ;)
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The arctot is equal to the difference between two calculated capital numbers which are measured with a Cosine error tampered test indicator on a sinebar floating in space.
"Smaller and smaller. Until they're scrap. That's how I know I"m done."
I just learned more about sine and cosine in 26 minutes than I have in 55 years. Great video.
I aced trig in high school like >95% A aced it, as well as calculus (trig gets thrown in often, especially in a standard calc 2 curriculum.) This is possibly the best real-world scenario that I've seen for where trig can be applied.
@@msihcs8171 wow dude you are so cool. Here take a cookie.
@@Backtrack3332 wow dude, how does it feel know you are stupid in the inside for hating on people that likes math?
@@JosueRodriguez08 I don’t think he’s hating on someone who likes math. I think he’s hating on the bragging Niko N had to do before making his actual point.
@@innes2892 he was probably staying that he aced those classes cause somebody would've questioned what makes him credible and why they should listen to me
This was so incredibly helpful!
Had a real hard time learning trig in school. It was only until I learned what the real world use of it was that I actual understood it. I remember asking the teacher back in high school what it was use for only to be directed to a posted hung on the wall that was a chart with what careers used what types of math, Out of likely 30 careers listed trig was only indicated on math teacher and rocket scientist. What an udder fail. I'm sure if I grew up in a manufacturing heavy city 50 years ago I would have had no issues learning it as it was be taught practically how it was actually used.
A collaboration between the two will be great!
ALEC AND THIS OLD TONY, what this old tony will teach the young Alec?
@@Razehell42 So true.
@@MT-jf1tn He can start by teaching him some reputable shipping companies
@@JoeBlogster LOL. Poor Alec and that poor abused machinery!
As an Engineering student, that was the best explanation of basic trigonometry I've ever heard
Nice
Oh god, it makes sense! I'm hyperventilating. Is this... Is this what math feels like?
LMAO I totally feel the same
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Well.. Yes...it's a bit like when Neo Sees the Matrix before his very eyes at the end of the film, or how Emmet Brickowski sees al the partnumbers and possibilities in the Lego Movie..
once you see it.. you feel like.. "That's all?".. I worked with Sinebars a lot, Just like This old Tony, i made one myself, since i needed it for very precise grinding of angles..
My last Math Teacher "handed me the tools" he made me see it.. and from that moment on, i was able to calculate Cartesian coordinates from drawings with polar dimensions, i could calculate the trail of a motorbike, by measuring the Fork angle, the offset, Fork length and wheel diameter.. all of the sudden.. these things couldn't hide their secrets from me..
I always say, if you can use math in everyday life, it becomes easy.. because you're using it all the time..
@Evi1M4chine 3b1b helped me get a degree. I had been through three damned courses talking about Fourier, and his video explained it in a new way that made sense and allowed me to understand Fourier's work at a deeper level.
tbf 3b1b vid about Fourier is useless if you haven't learnt about it prior, he explains what it does to a degree but not what it means
I don't own a mill or lathe yet, but when I finally convince my wife I need one, I'll use this video to convince her I need a sine bar as well.
@Mike Oxenfire weak. What are you 12 years old?
@Mike Oxenfire ok dude👍
After you get the sine bar you will then need to convince her you need a granite plate to use it on, then explain why they are so expensive and you can't just use a scrap cutoff from the local countertop place, then explain why it needs to be on 3 feet a very specific distance from the sides. The bright side is she will eventually throw her hands up and say "as long as it makes you happy". Not that I would ever talk from experience...
@@avocares hahahaha love it man. I've already googled "can you use granite countertop as a surface plate" and the answer was "you need a sine bar and mill first"
Having been married 4 times and this last one for over 20 years... I finally figured it out. I mean how to get your wife to WANT you to buy toys... I mean tools. Make stuff for her. It's that simple. Or in order for you to do something that she wants, show her how this new tool (insert any damn tool you need) will help you do what she WANTS you to do. OH, and it does help if you bring her to your working area and let her watch you do some magical thing like cutting a special thread on a small part. OH... I forgot to tell you. If by chance you are one of those who believe that opposites attract... that isn't love its lust. so... Hopefully you were smarter than I was and you only married once and she has A LOT in common with you. Then she will understand exactly what the hell you are doing and why. That way, when you say "Honey, how about we go to Woodcraft and look at the wood lathes." and she says..." How about we go to Woodcraft and buy a wood lathe." You will know you have chosen wisely... BUT... be damn sure you make stuff for her!!! Now. How did I get my first metal lathe? I had a great rifle that I loved but I found a South Bend 9A lathe that I wanted more. I traded. Here is the small lesson. If you sell something, use that money to buy something to replace it. Similarly, if you are going to trade something, trade it for something you are going to replace it with. I had a great rifle that my grandpa had given me so the ole 30.06 just wasn't needed any more. hence my new lathe. Good hunting!! OH, and in case I forgot to mention it... make stuff for her!!!
10:40 Looking at your box of gauge blocks, I'm very sorry to be the one who breaks the news, but you clearly got a defective set - they're pretty obviously all the exact same height...
Nice one !
Attila that was not point sir. How tool works.
How the tool works.
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@@TheRealDrae go back to reddit.
I always wondered what sine and cosine actually represented. Nobody ever explained it, even in my college trig class. All I knew was to look it up in some table. The explanation with the flashlight and shadow length? Priceless! Every trig class from here on should include this clip. Thanks a million for your wonderful videos. (And I don’t even have any metalworking tools!)
You made it all the way to college and managed to miss every explanation that the sine and the cosine are the ratios of two sides of a right triangle?
@@stargazer7644 Also that they describe the cartesian coordinates of a point travelling around a circle.
Not even a hacksaw ?
My teacher's motto is literally "you don't need to understand it, just memorise the formula"
Yes. Yes yes yes
"What are you doing, @ThisOldTony?" "Oh nothing, just explaining in 26 minutes what you didn't learn in 2 semesters in high school trig."
In fairness, this is only around half of a lecture's worth of trig information.
You mean shop maths
Ladder historian here. The people climbing the ladders did not die from the fall, there were long dead before they hit the ground from suffering a severe case of Triginosis. They lost the ability to calculate angles, died, and then fell. Don't trust me? Don't go look it up.
Ladder here. Can... Aaaarghhh! Another Triginostic idiot!
It isn't just the people that get hurt
Ladder user here. could you hold my ladder at the bottom for me please?
I once read somewhere
'Never trust an edited comment.'
@@denism8494 Dry ice salesman here, who moonlights short-selling stocks of life insurance companies.
I have just the thing for you to use to chock your ladder.
Wall here. Are you doing something later?
Some intelligent Person once said, if you can‘t explain something in an easy way, you did not understand it. You made it look so easy, i feel stupid because I had a lot of trouble understanding it years ago. You really should be a teacher if you aren‘t already. Your Videos are always informative, funny and captivating. You really have a Talent to make dull things feel like the most interesting thing in the world. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and skill.
"Some intelligent person"? If you consider Einstein to be "intelligent," he said, "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
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Buckhorn Cortez yes, that is what I was thinking of. Didn‘t take the Time to look it up, just remembered it roughly and that somebody extraordinarily intelligent said it.
@Donald R. Cossitt I don‘t know if I get what you mean. Are you talking about him being a teacher in the sense of him teaching „UA-cam classes“
Smitty, Don’t feel stupid for not understanding what was poorly explained
@@thenerv37 Touche....
Q: Why is a 5" Sine Bar the most popular?
A: 5" converted to metric is 127.00mm the first time imperial measurements and metric measurements are whole numbers.
Oddly, it's half of 254 !
5" = (2^7 - 1) mm 🤫
Don't question it ... the space time continuum might collapse... just agree and nod
Man, I’m agreeing and nodding so much I look like a bobble head....
@@mreese8764 so it's prime ... yep 127 is PRIME ... now it make sense.
I've been a toolmaker for 45 years and also a metrologist for 26 years. A sine bar and a set of gauge blocks are just awesome tools to have in your tool shop. It's probably the most accurate way to set something at an angle or to determine an angle.
Man you got it all wrong! Sine is what your kid does at the bank when they want to buy a car and promises to pay for it, cosine is what the bank makes you do so they give your kid a loan for the car, then cosine error is when the cosine ends up paying for the car because the sine didn't make the payments. And that my friends is why a sine bar looks like a little car with a rear spoiler.
I just read that to my mathematician wife. She chuckled for a full 38.243 seconds.
So where does tangent fit into all this?
@@denisl2760 The whole thing is a tangent!
@@denisl2760 Well if you say no to you kid on the cosine they will throw a temper tangent.
Gold
If you're not sure why 10 inches is more popular than 5 inches I'm not sure I can help you.
hahaha! thanks for the laugh!
I was expecting this comment from AvE . Ending with "partner". :)
@@alexandruschaub1481 yeah, there's definitely some AvE influence there
I love this. I'm a high school maths teacher (that's right.... mathS) and I've never really used trig beyond theoretical applications. As someone with little to no experience USING trig, it's hard to convey this mathemagics to students. But this video is a beginning. I need to learn more so I can impart these important concepts better.
shouldn't have gotten rid of shop class!
I don't know if you teach equation of a line slope intercept formula but I am a retired millwright and I used that formula to align pumps and motors to one another. The centerl ine of the shafts are the lines that have to be within a couple thousands of an inch.
Also often used for 3D stuff with computers and I use them all the time when designing objects for 3D printing.
Maths... mathemagics lol
@@twlson49 Meanwhile, everyone else just uses a rubber coupling.
Definitely fell into the "Age where other stuff is on the mind" while trying to learn trig. Thanks for this video, it helped to visualize some of the stuff I can faintly remember hearing mentioned while passed out with my head on the desk.
I'd love to type something funny here, but my mind is still blown. I am 47 years old and have always had a massive mental block when it comes to trigonmeshopmath. I feel like those reference tables and the clever buttons on the calculator are genuinely approachable now. Honestly, sincerely, I am truly grateful for this. Thank you, and please keep doing what you do.
jellyfinger i am also 47 and feel the exact same way. Goes to show you, its not the subject or material it is the manner in which it is taught.
@@timothyprochilo4840 - Couldn't agree more. I am watching this for the 5th or 6th time now, pausing and taking notes.
@@timothyprochilo4840 Ditto
Check out this visualization of the trig functions with the unit circle of you want to learn some more
i.imgur.com/jbqK8MJ.mp4
That is a good graphic, pity I can't input 2 values and get the graphic to show the graphic and all the other values. That would be a useful app... Any one listening?
The biggest issue with math and school is the inability of schools to relate it to anything practical. Once we know why it’s useful it makes it easier to want to learn.
Some do.
ua-cam.com/video/13vxHXVKFz4/v-deo.html
4.50 minutes in
Truth!
That's the problem with all modern education. They took away ALL practicals. Teachers are ranting wankers who don't even practice what they're teaching. :/
Screaming textbooks at children all day isn't a very ethical job. Teachers are way overpaid for being text to speech programs.
True, the first time I learned sine and cosine was from a beginner's video game developing tutorial because you needed them to make objects move at an angle, and because of that I always remember them
When public education is forced funded and education is mandated, it is no surprise the quality and usefulness goes down. Consider that many public schools are also daycare centers and indoctrinate siphoning funds away from real useful practical education.
Consider universities mandating all sorts of diversity classes and such to get a degree. It is indoctrination coupled with a type of extortion.
Consider people taking classes for what they want to learn are more likely to work to learn. Likewise when parents and guardians are involved with their children's education, the children are more likely to learn.
School choice is a step in a better direction.
"Why do I need to know this?" Deer staring into headlights - every math teacher ever.
The motto of the proudly ignorant: “why am I learning this and when will I ever use it”.
Well then why are you learning it and when will you use it?
While I may never need to solve a quadratic equation in my daily life, math is hands-on training in manipulating concepts in my mind. It teaches you how to think. I may not be a great thinker, but I am a retired engineer (maybe never a very good one). Since my retirement, I try not to think too much.
Lol the little touch of adding “tot” in place of “tan” I missed that the first time watching the video haha
It also says subscribeulater at the very top
He spent wayyyyyyy to much time matching that text because I couldn’t tell until it went slightly out of focus.
Glad there were no metric angles in here
To convert imperial angles to metric angles, just multiply by e^(2iπ
). Also works for converting metric years to imperial years.
At very small angles there's no math to convert to radians.
Hey TOT, thanks for taking us on this tangent.
This is more useful than my math class, the teacher's motto is literally "you don't need to understand it, just memorize the numbers"
Holy fuck, I have, for some reason, never properly understood trig. I am in high school, and this is about the best explanation for it and has helped me really understand it
Okay, so now that a YT machinist has taught something that none of my so called "teachers" could (30 years after I graduated *cough* high school), where do I go for my certificate from ToT Universtoty?
Pay crap -> Get crap -> "Teacher"...
The final is every time you make something in your own garage or workspace!
That's exactly what I was thinking... ToT just taught me more in less than half an hour than I ever learned in one semester.
Thanks, Tony!
A horse walks into a sine bar. The bartender asks: "Why the long face?"
A pirate walks into a sine bar with a steering wheel attached to the front of his pants.
The bartender says "Hey, you got a steering wheel on the front of your pants!"
The pirate says "Arrrr! And it's drivin' me nuts!"
The problem teachers face with this kind of dry subject is putting it into a context that students will be interested in and concentrate. Viewers of this old channel are interested in making lumps of metal different shapes. Tony can use applicable examples to show how it all works which makes the information bit more interesting and you engage more. In a class of 30 to 40 students, very few of them will have a similar set of interests, so teachers are limited in how to show what they are teaching in a real world setting. This gives rise to people saying 'when will I ever use this crap after I leave school?.
In a job I had many years ago I had to help a guy set CCTV cameras up to monitor banks of slot machines for a couple of days whilst his assistant was out sick. Now how they used to do it was one would watch the monitor whilst the other would tweak settings and lenses on the camera. This seemed like a long winded way to so it. So I asked if we could try one camera my way, with that evening's beers riding on the success of my idea.
I took the tape measure and measured the length of the bank on slot machines, the height of them, the height of the ceiling, and the angle of the lens' field of view. Then using a bit of trigonometry, worked out how far away from the machines the camera should be located, the angle from the machines both in relation to the ceiling and to the bank of machines.
Armed with may calculations, I measured out where the camera was to be located and mounted it, used an old school protractor to set the angles and hooked up the cable.
The only tweak we needed was to focus the camera and then agree to what time my colleague would be getting the first beer in. It took about 1/5th of the time they used to take and as far as I know, they're still using my method and enjoying longer breaks because they 'forgot' to tell our manager they found a quicker way to do the job.
Even the strangest maths taught in school can crop up in every day life.
I think you get it from ToT Universetony
Did you just trick me into enjoying math?
"I'm not talking about those out of square parts you usually make" Love it
I need to watch this video at least 4 more times. I have done a lot of machining in my trade over the decades without being formally trained and poor math skills. My desire to machine and create parts have overridden the skills I don't possess, and this lesson is incredibly helpful. Thank you for the lessons you teach.
There's a sine bar and a sine table. If you want to go even bigger you can use a Sine Field or you can just go have a coffee with a comedian in a car.
a coffee with Seinfeld?
@@heukelummer A coffee with Sine Field (Seinfeld)
Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee
I prefere sine cubes
What is the deal with this shop math?
I had no idea it was this simple..
Here's a sweet GIF if you want to see everything visualized at once
i.imgur.com/jbqK8MJ.mp4
@@FowlerAskew I was thinking about that video, I'm glad you posted!
Keanu Reeves watches this video.
“I know trigon o’metry”
"I met him at the sine bar"
THANKS TONY. After 53 years I finally understand Sine/Cosine=Tangent. With you teaching, I could have been somebody...a contender.
Showing this one to my students next time I teach my shop class. Good info
i learned this by using fusion 360 which is free. i think its a great learning tool!
🤯 Tony, I wish you were my high school math teacher. I always had trouble with trig. You just simplified it to the point that my minuscule mind could digest it. Being a crane operator, we deal with a little trig. However, nothing on the scale that you machinists mess with. Thanks for yet another great video! 🙂👍
Hey, Jimmy! Come here often?
@@burningdinosaurs, hey there! I'm here for every new video. 🙂
Brilliantly explained. Plenty of humour to add interest as well. I wish my teachers had been as interesting to listen to. Thanks Tony.
HOLY COW!! 44 years after flunking Trig. I now understand Sine and Cosine! If I had just watched this video before that stupid test I might have been a physicist!
"Separate the wheat from the chaff". Is that why you own a mill? :P
I am sure you had an angle for this video but you did cover the subject quite well.
He wants you to subScribe
I see what you did there. Classic
TOT - 1. Florida Public Schools - 0.
Yet again you have done for me what 2 years of high school math couldn't do. I was trying too learn back then too.
Thanks.
Your self proclaimed biggest fan,
John.
Tony - thank you so much for your wonderful teaching videos! You should get the "Teacher of the Year" award every year! Are you a rocket scientist in your night job? You are so smart. God Bless you and your family.
Only co-sign I know of is when you buy a big ticket item. I asked my high school sweetheart if she wanted to get in the back seat,she said "no, I want to stay in the front seat with you."
It took a while to get it. HaHa!
great video...will have to view a few times as I smelled wood burning on my first run through....
Really? I was smelling roasting almonds... I doft thnik itt a pro blrm thooufhh
hahaha I thought that it was just me who was smelling burning wood.
I'm with you mate. Nice comment and I love your sense of humor. Personally I wasn't sure whether my head was spinning because of what Tony was saying or it was because of the alcohol.
tell me about it. one run to translate it to spanish. another to understand the imperial units. another for the math and the last one to put it all back together
@@Blueshirt38 Hwo strgane I haaad teh saem prollum..
Fifty years after I did all this at school I realise that it was my teacher who was the schlub, not me! Brilliant, perfectly explained - thanks.
This Old Tony, this video was friggin awesome. They need to show this in trig class!. Thank you for doing this.
How dare you. I love that word! The unit circle defines me as much as it defines the relationship between angles and sides on right triangles. Coincidentally, I don't actually do any machining.
For those that don't walk around with all this stuff on the top of their head, you put it very well. Next, you can show them how to use the exponent key to figure thepayments on their new haas super mini mill.
I loved Trig in school and still use it from time to time and I'm 72... And now that I saw the whole thing it is really interesting.... 2 thumbs up!!!
You Sir, have a gift for bringing life to dry concepts that should be the aspiration of professional educators everywhere but somehow isn't. Therin lies the fly in the conventional western didactic ointment. Anytime you find yourself at a loss for subject matter, a lesson like this would be appreciated. Thank you This old Tony.
i have a test on this tomorrow (or Tuesday, my teachers aren't good at telling us things). This video couldn't have come at a better time
Let us know how you do on the test.
"Cosine erorr"
I like that little detail XD
That blinked by so quick I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me.
Had to rewind to confirm what I thought I saw...clever humour!
"... until they're scrap. That's how I know I'm done." I laughed out loud 🤣😭 fr. Wish I learned trig from you at school 😘
Just this one clip has taught me more than i ever knew about accurate turning. Thanks
Nice simple explanation in a shop context. The use of the roundstock to keep the hypotenuse exactly the same when supported from below with a simple jack is pretty smart. I feel like I just watched a 3brown1blue video with really really good cgi.
I don't understand sine language.
You probably would not enjoy Monty Python's semaphore version of Wuthering Heights.
@@Gottenhimfella I had to check it out before I understood. Hilarious!
one of the coolest explanations EVER on this topic. i have brushed shoulders with many instructors in many schools of thought, college full time at 15yrs old, trade school in California, IBEW trade school in Missouri, Technical school in Tennessee, and now a deep yerning to learn machinists theory and protocals considering all the equiptment i have aquired over the years for 'pipe-dream' projects. i have never heard such perfect, easy to understand, examples of trig functions...ever. WELL DONE. thank you very much for your videos sir. Precise, reasoning, humor, examples, ect., perfect mix.
Thank you....coming from a younger wanna be machinist......I managed to watch every second of this video, then I noticed 800k people watched a video on a sine bar....now I have a little more faith in this world
It blows my mind that you(a hobbyist) are better at teaching math than my math teachers were...
P.s. I dont normally comment but thought I'd thank you for all the laughs and entertainment you have given me over the years. So Thank you!
This is the first time i ever understood any of this
Thanks, Tony.
Ya learned me somethin' that I fell asleep listening to 50 years ago. The lathe setup enlightened me, too.
Keep the videos coming.
To state the oblivious... XD... nearly 3 years on and I don't know how many times I've watched this and I'm still finding jokes... hats off, sir, hats off.
Came here for the TOT tangent. Was not disappointed.
"Tony's Old Aunt Sat On Her Coat And Hat" - TAN = Opp/Adj; SINE=Opp/Hyp; COS=Adj/Hyp
Most people use SOH CAH TOA which sounds like an erupting volcano.
When you took it to the lathe.. mind blown. Thank you for the great video!
Man, your subtle comedy is amazing! I was cracking up after that backseat joke!!
Now I finally know where sine , cosine and tangent are derived from. I wish my old maths teacher would have explained this as clearly as you just did. Thank you.
TOT. Do you stop to breath very often?.
notimeforbreathing!
5 years of high school and I learn trig in 25 mins. Thanks for wasting 5 years.
Dafuq, forgive my ignorance by why did you spend 5 years in high school?
Igor Barbaros hahaha I was going to agree that I learned more here than in high school but that was funny
@@igorbarbarossa - heh. In Ontario back in 2002 we had gr 9-12 and OAC. www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Academic_Credit&ved=2ahUKEwj20ebMlZPfAhURrYMKHV6IACwQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0hSLoKDtpllCDzdYxoOOls
@@shawnhuk understood. Thank you for clarification sir
@@igorbarbarossa didn't everyone?
You have charmed your way into teaching 1 MILLION PEOPLE into watching a video about trigonometry. Incredible.
Machining is wild. I have no idea how I found this channel, never wondered about machining, and now I've watched hours and hours of this guy. Awesome. I've learned more about Trig from this homie than I did an entire semester listening to an escaped USSR scientist in college. Had to teach myself the entire friggin' time and get my mind blown in 5 minutes by TOT
Soo many videos lately! Definitely not complaining, just wondering... did you quit your day job?
"My lathe is smarter than me"
Fantastic content
Yeah, he was a piano player in a whorehouse. Now he's just a fly in fly out dishwasher on an oil rig. ;)
Not complaining ether, phunny as pharq! But, he probably has been able to quit his 'day job'. With over 1M subscribers (no doubt due to underhanded subliminal messages!) he shoul be getting quite the cheque from UT! Over 130k views of this one so far! Love it!!
I don't think so. He spends whatever time needed to make the videos then fires up the Lathe and travels back in time as to not miss work.
Nice subscribulator you have there.
nice catch, I always forget to look for them.
it comes with tot function
Missed that one
@@syncon303 i thought i was going insane, he even changed tan in the book too!.
Funny. I saw the tot and arctot but missed the subscribulator.
Tony, trig is a very useful piece of mathematics, one I use regularly. I grew up in the time before calculators, and used sine, cos and tan tables and a slide rule in high school and through university.
By far the most valuable video for what I lacked in the machine shop ive seen yet. You explained it so well I actually understand what it means aswell as how to use it. Thank you!
Yo don't forget to tell people about degrees and radians on that calculator machine. You'll get wildly different answers
Yeah, lots of calculators use radians as the default.
@@jimc3688 It saves confusion between degrees C and those F ones.
If you want to get real funky, throw gradians into the mix
"If you decide to start projecting yourself onto your triangles, just make sure you are doing it right" - @This Old Tony
Well! I now know how to use a sine bar.I was taught years ago,but it never sank in.Now at the age of 73 I understand it.Thank you Tony.
I love how the "knucklehead" measurement is exactly how we measure televisions and monitors.
why the hell were you not my math teacher.... I finally get it now!!! Thanks Tony!!!
Darn I really feel like I have learned something here! Thanks Tony!
Where would i be if i watched this video 36 years ago. I just now understand and am excited to go to math class tomorrow! Im definitely going to file this under future starting video for grandson pre highschool math class! Thanks from one old man to another 🙏
Tony, you managed to hammer in my brain in just 2 minutes (6:00 to 8:00) what a math teacher barely could in 3 months 15 years ago. And still, why am I still watching your videos if I only have a bandsaw and some woodworking tools?!
I'm actually starting to enjoy math now watching your videos.
there was once a great hunter, he was married to a Cherokee lady that was every bit as great a hunter as him. every night they would make love on the skin of a hippopotamus they killed on their honeymoon. sadly she was killed by a couple of bears before they had any children.
our great hunter of course killed the two bears and kept their hides. eventually he found love again in the arms of a sweet Apache girl. they would make love every night on the bear hides that had taken his first wife ,she was a terrible hunter but did produce a fine son who grew up to be as good as his father and his first wife.
what does it all mean ??
the squaw rooted on the hippopotamus is equal to the son of the squaw rooted on the other two hides
Was the squaw's name SohCahToa?
Excellent!
Booooooooooo! :-) xx
@@Ididerus wow, thats exactly how I've always remembered it too SohCahToa
@Jim Alley Whats parochial?
I learned more in the last 26 minutes than a years trig at school, thank you Tony!
I so wish that you had been my maths teacher when I was in school in the 1980's. Sine and cosine were very much a vague concept but this video explained it in a way that none of my teachers ever did. I actually understand it now! Brilliant channel, Tony.
My spine actually is tingling. Or I've been watching UA-cam too long and need to walk around a bit.
Vernon --> Same here!
A 26 min youtube video did a better job teaching me trigSHOP MATH than a year of study in high school.
You only did one yeah of trig in High School? Back in the Eighties we had 5 years of High School and trig was part of the syllabus every year. (Full disclosure, I took Mathematics right through Matric)
I memorized SOH CAH TOA. This has served me well my entire engineering career. Very interesting to learn about sine bars. I had no idea. I have no machining experience. Only your subtle humor makes me listen to 26 minutes of tirg. Nice job.
Outstanding! You are a natural teacher. I learned more from this video than I did in high school. Thank you!
A heat treated sine bar was a school project while I was apprenticing. I wonder what became of it. Great memories of making it bud. Many thanks fella ! We did our math with no calculators. A time gone by eh. Great refresher bud.
It went into the black hole also containing my school project torque wrench.
"Precise International Angles"
This brings back memories of high school related class. RIP Mr. Levesque you were a good teacher. Wouldn't be able to feed my family today if it weren't for you. 🤘
some of this went over my head, at about 17:09 I'm gonna have to watch this video several times. The first part was very eye opening. I remember taking Trigonometry in college, I could never could get thru it, and I wasn't exposed enough to it in high school, or just wasn't taught well, back in 1982. when I went back to college, in 1992, I was still lost, and had to take rudimentary math again, to get back into the game. I have never had any instructor, who had the ability to teach this subject like Tony. Visual aides help a lot, with today's technology, it should be easy, but I suspect teachers are still using antiquated techniques to teach this subject.
I want to learn this again, I'm 56yo, it may take me longer, but damn, Tony makes it very interesting. I'm enjoying this so much!
Need to upgrade my calculator to one with capital numbers for higher order math operations.
You actually have those functions on your phone--You open the calculator function, and turn your phone horizontal and the the screen flips to wide with the trig functions. The "INV" key will give you the arc functions. My phone is also smarter than I.
@@MJPPoland I bet it does not have a TOT button ..4:06
@@lodgecav490 I have an identical Sharp calculator that I imported from UK... What I want to know is how he re-silkscreened it so neatly?
@@SianaGearz He did that in post-production. Watch some of his other videos. The first one that comes to mind is the one he did on the "OPUS" die filer, he changed what it said on the front of the machine.
Mike Petersen I think you missed my (and ToT’s) joke. It was that the shift button is for making CAPITAL numbers. Think about that for a second...
"Own up to it like a real *wheat* "
Being an electrician sine-cosine are a description of alternating current!!! Your videos are both easy to watch and very informative!!!
Mr. Pete used to yell at me in class for being an idiot. Thanks for the kinder, gentler, approach.