JEEP MY LIFE! WJ GRAND CHEROKEE vs POWER STEERING FLUID... MOPAR MS-10838 THE HARD WAY!!!
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2020
- After installing a new hydro fan, power steering pump, and lines on the Green Hornet WJ, I learned the hard way that the hydro fan equipped WJ does NOT take the red power steering fluid +4. #JEEP #MOPAR #POWERSTEERING #
Mopar Hydraulic Power Steering Fluid MS-10838 is part number 68234631AA
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Non Mopar Fluids must 5931
Valvoline Hydraulic Powersteering Fluid:
1 gallon - amzn.to/35Rd2sF
1 quart - amzn.to/3kTQJH2
Power Steering Pump with Resevoir (Remanufactured) - ACDELCO 36P1499 - $ 86.99
Power Steering Pressure Hose (pump to fan) - EDELMANN 92189 - $ 30.79
Power Steering Pressure Hose (Fan to steering box) - GATES 365469 - $ 16.16
Power Steering Return Hose (cooler to resevoir) - SUNSONG 3404024 - $ 10.83
Power Steering Return Hose (Steering box to cooler) - SUNSONG 3401525 - $ 7.04
Daniel 2.20 Blessed be the name of God forever and ever for All wisdom and power are His.
Hey, what’s up, guys? I hope you enjoyed another project. Please remember that this video product is meant for entertainment purposes only and intended for people of driving age, and that is not “made for kids”. Also Please Keep in mind I am not a professional and I have no professional training so don’t try this at home. If you decide to modify or fixing your own vehicle please keep it legal, roadworthy, and most importantly SAFE. Thanks for watching and I’ll see you on the next project! ✌️ - Авто та транспорт
nice job on the video and that was great how you and Doug got together on it.
Thank you Martin! Doug is the man. I'd love to collaborate with you one day if you're interested. 🤝
@@ProjectDanH
The intro was awesome. Who would have known that fluid makes that much difference.
thanks man! about out to Doug for his impeccable acting skills
The opening collaboration was on point.
Thanks John, Doug is the man!
Job well done. Crazy that fluid makes such a difference
seriously! it had me all scrambled 🤣🤣
Doug saved my 02 WJ (260k miles) cooling issue on my 4.7 hydraulic fan that I was chasing for 2 years. Had to change head gaskets because of it. I saw his video and bit the bullet and bought 3 quarts of the correct Mopar hydro fluid. 20 bux a quart. Flushed it and now that fan will suck a shop rag through the grill! Get the Mopar HYDRAULIC PS fluid!
Excellent Frank!!
That is a great opening collaboration with Doug, so glad to know when I put the wife’s WJ back together.
Thanks buddy. Doug was a great sport to play along! Glad we can help 💪
HAH... Thanks for letting me in your vid bud! You are killing it with the WJ!
thanks dude. you killed it with into! you're a natural
Jeep My Life. I like that. I may have to start using that. Had a JML moment this weekend. My JML moment: Trying to diagnose an EVAP leak. I ended up messing up the feed line fitting AT the fuel pump. Had to drop tank (full of course) and replace the fuel pump module. Everything fought me every step of the way. Got it done in time despite Mother Nature.
oh man that's definitely a JML moment! Just about all my Jeeps have an evap issue... so annoying!!
Thanks soooo much for this video! Saved me from pouring the wrong stuff into my Jeep!
Thanks man! Props to D&E for being my 4.7 pioneers.
@@ProjectDanH Hey I’ve got a 2001 Grand Cherokee that had a 4.0 in it, it had an engine swap. I had to replace the power steering hoses and I can’t figure out what fluid to put into it. It has a mechanical fan, not the hydraulic fan. The dealership said Mopar +4 fluid, but I don’t really want to spend $10 a quart on it and I think it just has Red ATF fluid in it. It was leaking red fluid. Can I just get a big jug of ATF +4 and flush it out and be done with it? Im getting annoyed at this point 😅
All 3 of my fave Jeep boys in one spot!? Right on!
✔💯👍😎
Thank you!
Nicely done! Thank you for the video!!
Thanks for watching!
I was going to ask if you can completely fill it up with Valvoline 5931 because that Mopar 10838 is a nightmare to find now, but it seems like Valvoline 5931 is fine based on your videos and other comments. I won't say any names but I have placed a few orders of 10838 only to have people send me ATF plus 4, some of the companies were rude about it and told me I was "wrong" when I tried to return it. I have gone from mechanics advising me to sell my car to fixing it myself. You and Doug are life savers, I owe you guys some beers if I ever meet you! JEEP MY LIFE BUD!
Great video Dan, helps me to do this myself at a way lower cost (and getting it done properly)
Great to hear! thanks buddy!
@@ProjectDanH you change de rear lower and upper control arm
Reminds me of when I did the high pressure hose on my XJ. I had to do a similar flush because I grabbed the wrong bottle and dumped motor oil stop leak instead of power steering fluid... Jeep My Life.
I am starting to miss XJ content though...
Jeep my life indeed! Sorry about the XJ stall.. The wife was tired of looking at a junk WJ.. had to get it running to prove its value.
Just installed the electric fan /shroud what a circuit with a. Gauge
You have serious pouring skills 👌
Thanks brother! It has been perfected over time 🤣🤣🤣
MS10838 is the current spec, but MS5931 was the previous spec prior to being superseded, and it absolutely still works for originally spec'ed vehicles such as the WJ.
It's also a lot cheaper, as you note there is a Valvoline fluid that meets MS5931 spec. That's all I use, and it works great.
It blows my mind that a dealership gave you a +4 ATF. Actually, you know, sadly... it isn't really all that surprising. A lot of guys only know what the computer tells them.
lol, seriously man.. thanks for the info!
No problem. It's useful to know, the fans aren't made any more and you really do lose performance by converting over to electric.
Well done and may God bless you \ Your brother Mr. Hamid Al-Faham from Iraq
Thank you brother, God Bless
Great video
Thanks for the visit!!
Man I am living Jeep my life right now.
I see you made it to the right vid! Jeep My Life bro
Thanks for the very helpful video 🙂
Remember Dan, that God loves you. 🙂
Always! Amen!
I know this video is 3yrs old, but for the people who ended up here looking for a replacement for MS-10838 like me, DO NOT GET THE MOPAR POWER STEERING FLUID IN THE FIRST AMAZON LINK.
They will bait and switch you and send the red ATF+4 brand. Many reviewers complain about this.
Did you ever fix the fan speed? Id love to see what the highest speed looks like to compare to mine!
Oriely brand power steering fluid has MS-10838 part number on the back. Ive had 3 WJs and always used that. Also its 4 bucks a quart instead of 20
Awesome man Good to know! Unfortunately there are no O'Reilly's Auto Parts stores where I live. Thanks for the input 👍
18:15 someone else would have junked it. Good thing that you got it running again
Yes sir.. This Jeep was another blessing from the big man upstairs. I do my best to honor His gifts
What are you using now since they stopped making MS10838?
Good one dan👍🏾
I think the dealership shoulda know better
Dude... You'd be surprised.
O'Reilly has the Chrysler MS5931 for $6.00 a qt. Has it right on the back and it is exactly what my manual says to put in the power steering pumps with the hydro fans. I have the 04 Jeep Grand Cherokee limited 4.7L... From the book "Mopar Power Steering Fluid (MS-5931)". YOUR THOUGHTS.....
You should be good to go then. Unfortunately I don't have any O'reillys by me to compare.
Just wanted to share that the electrical cable that goes to the solenoid under the AC lines some time brakes... I this the pull and tug and found that the cable was indeed broken. Please check and see if that can solve your problem.
Than you Buddy!
Always pay attention to color of the fluids before filling up !!
Yes sir! Now that I know the correct stuff is clear I won't make that mistake again. 👍
Hey Dan, what is that fitting in the upper radiator hose? Is that for purging the air out? Also would that work on a 96 5.2 Zj to purge the air?
Yes sir It is an air bleeder valve! It should work on all vehicles.. Check out my last video
Good vid bud. I'm having a hard time finding out what fluid i need for my 2000 XJ 4.0. Would you know if i can use anything? Or must be Mopar stuff specific to XJ?
XJs can use regular PS fluid.
My 1993 cherokee sport transmission will not shift out of drive, shiftier moves but even in park position drive is still engaged,it does still have 1 2 and 3rd and drive,help... thank you
Hey Todd have you crawled underneath and checked your linkage?
filled it to full , it has hot and cold marks on the cap dipstick
So with the wrong fluid did the steering box make a really nasty noise??? Cuz mine is and I just understand why
Nope.. all the steering boxes are the same. The only thing the wrong fluid effects is the fan. Hope you don't have a busted gear in there
Hey Dan, jeep my life I’m having some trouble with my 02 hydro fan, it spins at idle (I think slower than what it should) but if I turn the steering wheel the fan stops spinning and the power steering pump sounds like if there was no fluid( reservoir full) is this a sign of a bad steering pump or the fan solenoid?
Hey man, sounds like the pump could be bad
Incredible information! I've got a doubt though: bought a 2006 grand cherokee Laredo, everything looks awesome BUT whenever and car is cold and I totally lock the steering wheel to either side, is makes a jiltering noise e.g wham wham wham, other than that everything looks as it should, what is the most probable cause: wrong fluid or low level of fluid (I didn't check the steering fluid level as I just bought the car)
Thanks!
The power steering pump is struggling, May be time to replace it.
Should ask for compensation from the dealer ... 😁 what a waste of +4 ( if it was a clean brand new system) if not then good for an extended flush?
I know I was pretty pissed at them... But I didn't want to burn any bridges because I might need them one day and now they owe me. Plus I think it made some pretty cool content and a valuable lesson learned.
Do you think that power steering fluid is the same in the 96 Zj ?
96 ZJ doesn't require 5931 spec Hydrofan fluid. the +4 would probably be fine
Can bad flow or hidro fan/selenoide make steering stiff at low speeds only softer when steeping on gas? Can it be air still on lines, was driving with no fluid a few days, had pumped changed still same issue
Yea, definitely possible, could be an old weak pump too.
Is this a 4.0? Why is your alternator over on the driver/ left side??
4.7 HO V8
Hi, did you solve the late operation of the hydraulic cooling fan?
It seems that I have the same problem..
One of my biggest problems was realizing that the fan solenoid shares a fuse with the oxygen sensors. If your O2 sensor wires are shorted out it will blow your fuse and your hydro fan won't work
@@ProjectDanH my problem is that my fan is working but not on time ..
Can you tell me the exact fuse?
how many quarts did you used to replace all the ps fluid?
Cant remember, maybe 3 of 4
Thank you Dan that's was my problem too now I know what to do.
no problem! glad to help!
Hey Dan...i think martin has the old solenoid for sale..or maybe not...i think he posted it on ebay for $100....yeah men...and hard to find...hope you can fix that one..cheers.!
I do have them for sale but not on eBay and I only what $70
@@martinbuilt just trying to help martin
Thank you guys so much.. I solve the problem already I Just need to edit and post the video. Spoiler alert the hydro fan and the O2 sensors share a fuse 😱
I got a jeep grand cherokee 2015 v6 did you guys know which on i should get ??
One what?
Out of curiosity what would be the powersteering fluid to use in a the 98 ZJ 4.0?
Basically any PS Fluid
How about a 6 cylinder 2000 wj?
@@riobravomultimedia4104 regular fluid unless you have the hydro fan
Dear Dan what is the colour of your zj car
PJ7 chargold metallic
Yeah, dealer couldn't show me where 10838 was compatible with 5931, so I found some Valvoline 5931, and I bought 3 quarts of Redline 5931, so I have some if I need it. I'm getting rid of all this monkey motion in a few days by doing a Lincoln Town car 2 speed electric fan conversion. I'll never have to worry about this monstrosity of a fan system ever failing on me. I'm in Jersey, '04 Limited, 4.7. J.M.L. 🙂
Great Conversion!!!! JML!!! HAHA
@@ProjectDanH Thanks!! One important thing I have found is you have to use really good relays. Fan draws 40-53 AMPS on start up. I have two Bosch 75 AMP relays, one for the low side, one for the high side.
Any plans on doing brakes on the green hornet ?
absolutely!
@@ProjectDanH awesome cause I gotta refresh my calipers might as well do the breaks too
@@Bulpar totally I'm thinking one day I'll do an all around brake refresh
Looks like ur valve covers r leaking. Should definitely do a video on that on the passenger side
Yeah it's really goopy down there. It starts smoking back there every time it gets hot. You think that's an exhaust leak or just all the sludge burning up?
@@ProjectDanH idk man ur more up on that than me I'm sure but that just looks like burnt sludge. I'm in the process of replacing my valve cover gasket on the passenger side and it's a real bear. Orginal owner only replaced the driver side
@@brandanbouchez8412 It's easy if you remove the battery and AC line and pull back the wire harness for the injectors . It took me about 20mins to do it . There is a few videos out on these 4.7's for valve cover gaskets too .
@@jaysmith5084 awesome guys. Thank you! Looks like This WJ is the gift that keeps on giving! (Content wise)
@@ProjectDanH I really dig mine but I still miss the ZJ limited 😔 I had a 00 XJ sport in 06 with 54,000 miles on it . It was my friends Grandparents Jeep and I got it cheap . My ex decided it was hers when we split and she still has it now with 300k it's still going 🤣
Wish I found this video a year ago. Ever so frustrating that not even the dealer knows the correct fluid.
Dude! seriously!! I hate explaining to the dealership how their products function.
Wow that thing is particular about it's fluids...I just put ATF+4 in mine,but I have the good old clutch fan....lol...and it's in a truck,so who cares....
Yeah man I'm going to totally eliminate this hydro fan one day!
@@ProjectDanH mine has some pump noize will fluid change fix it?
Jeep my life indeed. That looks like a big pain in the ass
Lmao! totally!
Jeep my life had to take out an old alternator then put in a new one.
Bro!! Indeed
Reason number 4686 for more XJ and less WJ lol
🤣🤣🤣 I love it Mike!
Jeep my life hahaha
JML!
Redline makes a perfectly compatible one also but I camt off the top of my head think of what specific one it is currently tho. Correction...
Redline #30404
Yes! Good info brother!
Daniel 2.20 Blessed be the name of God forever and ever for All wisdom and power are His. AWESOME! Daniel 2:21-24 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the
wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what
in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him. I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my fathers,
who hast given me wisdom and might, and hast made known unto me now what we desired of thee: for thou hast made known unto us the king's matter. Therefore Daniel went in unto Arioch, whom the king had ordained to destroy the wise of Babylon: he went and said thus unto him; Destroy not the wise of Babylon: bring me in before the king, and I will shew unto the king the interpretation. Great video as I needed this one.
AMEN! The best thing about wisdom... Ask and ye shall receive! God Bless Brother!
I only clicked on this video to tell you that you look like Phil Swift
who's phil swift?
⚙️Jeep⚙️ 🦾
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Hey PM me just found a 5.9L ZJ if you are interested in some parts.
oh man! can it be restored?
@@ProjectDanH Found it in the junkyard, but spend 2 days pulling off all the important parts. Got probably 1 more to the job. Can't believe someone put this in the yard. Also pulled a Mopar remanufactured computer (2016) from a 2000 W.J 4.0L. Let me know if you need some parts.
@@royremick1453 sure man! Thanks.. can you message me some pics on instagram?
@@ProjectDanH Not on integration, but can you request to be friends on Facebook, then we can use messenger. I am actually working on photos now.
*Not on Instagram
They stop making it now