I like this motherboard where the PCIe slot is in the first slot position, unlike MSI Mortar and Asus Tuff which are in the second slot, so you don't have to worry if you use a thick GPU in a matx case
as far as "cheap" motherboards go this looks pretty sweet ! we've come a long way for an entry level mb, shame about the audio for gigabyte, and thank you for bringing up the pcie lock issue as well. music is amazing, had my headphones on and it made heck lot difference ! thanks again for the vid !
i have a thermaltake level 20 vt case, so it's always nice to see a clean looking matx motherboards like this. looks very slick and definitely a possible upgrade for myself.
Not long ago you reached 100K Nick, now almost 200K!!! Don't come lately here to watch your masterpieces but, in fact, through entire internet there's no place like yours. This is like a nice therepy for my senses. Respect for your and Klaire's work ❤
I bought that board model because I didn't want the extra auto capabilities, because the computer is used for a Virtual Pipe Organ (Hauptwerk), I use a Presonus audio interface for my audio.. So I am happy Gigabyte has the option to buy a board with modest audio performance. The thing I like too about the Gigabyte 650 boards is the number of USB connections. I like the four USB 2, 5 USB 3.2 and the one USB C ports because I will be using all but one of those ports.
i got this motherboard for $150 it was $50 off when i bought my Ryzen 7 7700x from microcenter, also they threw in a 32gb of ddr5 6000mhz memory stick. It was a great deal
I would like to see a Motherboard that could accommodate 2/3 Graphics cards and run them without any problems for a Multi Monitor display setup. Still need Graphics Cards to come down in Price as well.
I agree that AM5 motherboards are very overpriced, but this board is worth at least $150. It's got an 8-layer PCB, a really solid VRM with a massive heatsink (440 grams!!!), a gen 5 M.2 slot, a thunderbolt header, Wi-Fi, and lots of USB ports. If you are not into XOC, this is really the sweet spot for AM5 boards unless you need X670. I'd much rather pay $200 for a $150 board than $400 for a $250 board. BTW, those plastic M.2 clips are horrific. I'm sure the screws and standoffs are provided for when they break.
This mobo has some quality control issues. It produces coil whining noise which and very noticeable and disruptive if you do any creative work. Many users reported the same issue, I guess the is the cost of being less expensive.
For MATX Aorus Elite Ax is my first choice but wish they had the Pro AX for sale as it has 70 amp power stages. The thing I don't like about all motherboard makers is they had ALC1220 codec on x570 and changed to 15 year old ALC 897Codec. You need to check out their latest white boards as they want more for them and made them even Cheaper with 6 layer PCB. $180 here in the US.
good luck when you need to clear the CMOS and you have to remove the battery.... 1st remove the GPU and remote 3 screws and then you can reset the cmos... why ....
Because that happens all the time. That is like complaining that the starter on an engine is hard to get to. Sure, that may be true but you shouldn't have to worry about it for several years.
@@ch0zm0 to be fair i usually remove the gpu when i take out cmos anyways because its hard to get in there. 3 more screws aint that big of a deal when you do this rarely
$200 "entry" level - no thank you :) Prices of these new AM5 motherboards are just killing ZEN 4, especially with lower and mid-tier CPUs. That's probably why only 7900x and 7950x are selling. Which chip support all new stuff like PCIe 5 and NVMe 5? B650E or only X-series?
This is a limitation of the B650 chipset (which is 1x16 or 2x8 PCIe 4.0 (not counting for NVME)) and not a fault of the motherboard manufacturer. This variant is still better in terms of pci-e interfaces than the ATX(B650 AORUS Elite) version of the board which is two PCIE 3.0 x16 @x1 speed (not counting the x16 4.0 video card slot). The vast majority of the people that would be using this board simply do not need a plethora of more capable PCI slots. Side note: USB ports need lanes too. Cost is not remotely the issue - it would be far cheaper to simply wire the x16 slot to be x4 or x8 (which few people would benefit from) vs. the rear panel IO, multiple USB-C interfaces and a great deal of other USB ports for an mATX board.
MLID (Moores Law Is Dead) had leaked months that OEMs were going to rinse the market for the first few months of AM5. Edit: It's also a given sadly, there was going to be a new tech premium but still prices are way too much. Especially if you want debugging features... which should be standard for the 200+ price range (at the very least debugging LEDs).
While looks good on paper, this mb is a trash. Coil whine is just too loud and too annoying. Gigabyte cheaped out on chokes just too much and crossed the line just like they did with the blowing up PSUs. Avoid at all costs.
I like this motherboard where the PCIe slot is in the first slot position, unlike MSI Mortar and Asus Tuff which are in the second slot, so you don't have to worry if you use a thick GPU in a matx case
I got an Asus Tuf and I hate that the PCIe is in the second slot :/
I have Lian Li A3 matx with 7900xtx nitro and it sits on the bottom drawing its' own air, no need for more fans.
as far as "cheap" motherboards go this looks pretty sweet ! we've come a long way for an entry level mb, shame about the audio for gigabyte, and thank you for bringing up the pcie lock issue as well.
music is amazing, had my headphones on and it made heck lot difference ! thanks again for the vid !
Yeah, B series motherboards are my favorite types of motherboard, especially micro atx version.
Also, this one looks good.
i have a thermaltake level 20 vt case, so it's always nice to see a clean looking matx motherboards like this. looks very slick and definitely a possible upgrade for myself.
Not long ago you reached 100K Nick, now almost 200K!!! Don't come lately here to watch your masterpieces but, in fact, through entire internet there's no place like yours. This is like a nice therepy for my senses. Respect for your and Klaire's work ❤
got this for a DAW , hence the optical out . . . . you make the music? banging , kinda beats i've been making for a few decades , big respect to you
Looks a good deal but would like to see more itx boards. Atm only few are in stock and not many options.
I bought that board model because I didn't want the extra auto capabilities, because the computer is used for a Virtual Pipe Organ (Hauptwerk), I use a Presonus audio interface for my audio.. So I am happy Gigabyte has the option to buy a board with modest audio performance. The thing I like too about the Gigabyte 650 boards is the number of USB connections. I like the four USB 2, 5 USB 3.2 and the one USB C ports because I will be using all but one of those ports.
i like the "this is not a review" disclaimer ♥
i bought this motherboard used with a 7600x for 250$ and am very happy with it. stable as can be and love the new bios menu after update
Great overview fams. Also screw those asshats that steal your content. They need to go down just like motherboard prices.
This one seems decent overall if they fix the price. The IO has plenty of USB ports
Great video, a board for me also needs to have all audio outputs for me to purchase, the audio is the fisrt think I look at
Banger of a motherboard overview fams love mATX boards. Keep up, the hard work. #Roadto200K
picked this MB up for my Micro build and I love it. Got a open box special at Micro Center for $135
How its holding up until today? Reliable mb?
I am here for the tunes again........mint as always
I have this board and bought it for $130 in the microcenter deal with 7700x and free 32gb DDR5 ram. I love it!
How is the boot time?
love these board overviews great job guys
Thankyou!
i got this motherboard for $150 it was $50 off when i bought my Ryzen 7 7700x from microcenter, also they threw in a 32gb of ddr5 6000mhz memory stick. It was a great deal
Thats a sick deal I just ordered mine yesterday on sale too(since some Black Friday deals are already live here),excited to get into it
Damn, that's a good deal. They say how long the deal is going on for? I'm interested in upgrading from my i5 6600k lol
@@jthiel0711 till Thursday 25 I believe definitely after Black Friday
How its holding up until today? good reliable mb?
I shouldn't be surprised they're as expensive as they are, but hopefully they'll become more reasonably priced soon (ish) lol
i plan to build this mobo. thank you for this overview
@GearSeekers, what would you prefer - this Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX or MSI MAG B650M MORTAR WIFI, thank you.
I would like to see a Motherboard that could accommodate 2/3 Graphics cards and run them without any problems for a Multi Monitor display setup. Still need Graphics Cards to come down in Price as well.
I'd rather use the one Digital Audio Interface than the 3+ analog cables. DAI is going to be the standard. Or use Bluetooth audio.
I agree that AM5 motherboards are very overpriced, but this board is worth at least $150. It's got an 8-layer PCB, a really solid VRM with a massive heatsink (440 grams!!!), a gen 5 M.2 slot, a thunderbolt header, Wi-Fi, and lots of USB ports. If you are not into XOC, this is really the sweet spot for AM5 boards unless you need X670. I'd much rather pay $200 for a $150 board than $400 for a $250 board. BTW, those plastic M.2 clips are horrific. I'm sure the screws and standoffs are provided for when they break.
the plastic clips work fine lol.
The MSI B650M mortar wifi is slightly better on paper in I/o and setup I think, but I could be wrong. Board looks awesome though.
I also got this MSI board for $210 with double discounts
Which is better?? Gigabyte b650m Aorus elite ax or MSI Mag b650m Mortar??
I paired this Mobo with a 7700x with the price drop lol and ASUS Prime AP201... So far I'm liking it.
Hi. At what cost did you get it? Any issues with it?
Anyway that is awesome stuff. Thanks for review.
Ryzen 7000 on sale right now. I just picked up a 7700X for $350 US!
This mobo has some quality control issues. It produces coil whining noise which and very noticeable and disruptive if you do any creative work. Many users reported the same issue, I guess the is the cost of being less expensive.
Does this happen during idle as well or only when you're doing something that results in a high CPU usage?
@@yyperiHappens from power up to down. All the time.
Avoid this trash.
I got to say it looks a lot nicer than their ITX board. It don't look as crowded.
hi i dont understand something about this board i hear you say it support 128gb of ram but on its site it says 192gb
That's only if you buy 4x 48GB sticks which is not typical. Most users will buy up to a 128GB kit (4x 32GB sticks)
It is the best matx b650. Good pcie layout. 8-layer PCB. That’s all I am care. It also makes other gigabyte am5 boards pointless.
You guys said you’re not buying a single motherboard. So how do you get them and do you just look at them and then give them back?
No. The company sends them to us and we keep them
@@GearSeekers woah I’m jealous ngl. That’s pretty cool
@@r-jthecookie3126 Cool but a lot of hard work! :)
@@KlaireGearSeekers i can only imagine
how about installation of cpu cooling tower?
AUD369? Damn, these prices are ridonculous!
For MATX Aorus Elite Ax is my first choice but wish they had the Pro AX for sale as it has 70 amp power stages. The thing I don't like about all motherboard makers is they had ALC1220 codec on x570 and changed to 15 year old ALC 897Codec. You need to check out their latest white boards as they want more for them and made them even Cheaper with 6 layer PCB. $180 here in the US.
Can you actually fit a graphics card along with a wifi card in this build? Without pcle slot for wifi might be fking useless.
The board has built in wifi, so that's one less thing to worry about.
can you put the model in the description below? easy copy paste for us lol
the best bang for buck board for streamers
2023: "Point of entry for MATX and Ryzen 7000". 2024, When you realise there are no better B650M boards:
lol, I feel so offended especially when mATX boards dont offer at least 2 wired x16 slots. An additional 1x slot would be nice too.
good luck when you need to clear the CMOS and you have to remove the battery.... 1st remove the GPU and remote 3 screws and then you can reset the cmos... why ....
Because that happens all the time. That is like complaining that the starter on an engine is hard to get to. Sure, that may be true but you shouldn't have to worry about it for several years.
Why even have a case or even assemble it, just lay your parts on the ground for easy access. 😎😎
It's got a CMOS jumper. Just add your own button. And the truth is, 99.99% of all users of this board will never have to reset.
My cmos died and bios keeps getting reset/Bluetooth issues 😅😅 gotta remove all of that shit😂😂
@@ch0zm0 to be fair i usually remove the gpu when i take out cmos anyways because its hard to get in there. 3 more screws aint that big of a deal when you do this rarely
$200 "entry" level - no thank you :)
Prices of these new AM5 motherboards are just killing ZEN 4, especially with lower and mid-tier CPUs. That's probably why only 7900x and 7950x are selling.
Which chip support all new stuff like PCIe 5 and NVMe 5? B650E or only X-series?
All X670E support PCIE 5
All X670 support PCIE 5
All B650E support PCIE 5
Only B650 didn't support it
Why do they keep making x16 physical slots with only x4 interface. Stop being so damn cheap and make it another x16 or at least x8.
This is a limitation of the B650 chipset (which is 1x16 or 2x8 PCIe 4.0 (not counting for NVME)) and not a fault of the motherboard manufacturer. This variant is still better in terms of pci-e interfaces than the ATX(B650 AORUS Elite) version of the board which is two PCIE 3.0 x16 @x1 speed (not counting the x16 4.0 video card slot). The vast majority of the people that would be using this board simply do not need a plethora of more capable PCI slots. Side note: USB ports need lanes too.
Cost is not remotely the issue - it would be far cheaper to simply wire the x16 slot to be x4 or x8 (which few people would benefit from) vs. the rear panel IO, multiple USB-C interfaces and a great deal of other USB ports for an mATX board.
Here in Brazil it costs 324 US dollars😢
I just ordered this board yesterday!
I don't want an interesting motherboard. I want a boring, rock solid board with a great VRM. Don't need anything else.
It turns out this motherboard has one of the best VRMs/cooling in its price range. Check out Hardware Unboxed B650 comparison videos.
I heard that Gigabyte B650 has a severe coil whine issue (whining sound under load)
Can anyone give me some insight and opinion on this ?
New here. Great videos btw. Seems like you spend quite a bit of time doing these "overviews". Why not do reviews?
Because we prefer to do overviews :)
Potato Mode 😎
Has anyone used this motherboard and encountered the problem of coil whining?
Avoid Revision 1.0/1.1
Revision 1.2/1.3 is okay.
i'm using rev 1.1
coil whine is there but not that noticeable.
btw after 9-10 months of usage, onboard wifi card just died
@@darkcrox Are you going to RMA it? It should still be under warranty.
@@tankerock Yeah, I'm gonna send it back later. They told me it'll take between 30 and 90 days to fix.🩻
@@tankerock Why avoid them? I don't care about coil whine but they have other issue?
Someone’s been playin COD lol 😂
none of the gigabyte mid range boards across all series are worth considering cuz none of them have debug leds.
MLID (Moores Law Is Dead) had leaked months that OEMs were going to rinse the market for the first few months of AM5. Edit: It's also a given sadly, there was going to be a new tech premium but still prices are way too much. Especially if you want debugging features... which should be standard for the 200+ price range (at the very least debugging LEDs).
Leaks are fake news
While looks good on paper, this mb is a trash. Coil whine is just too loud and too annoying.
Gigabyte cheaped out on chokes just too much and crossed the line just like they did with the blowing up PSUs.
Avoid at all costs.
which board would you recommend instead?
cheap... this board 300 dollar in my country ( 1/3 of the monthly cash..) :(
In my country 300 dollar is 1 1/5 of the monthly cash
I would like to see a Sonic the hedgehog themed build featuring the ASRock Z790 PG Sonic mobo.
$200 US for a Matx!? 😂 I paid $89 for B550M 2 years ago.
You want that for 120$ ??? Come on you can't be serious !!
Did I stutter?
@GearSeekers if you want one with that price go for A620 S2H with low VRM and no heatsing