MR2 Spyder Monster V8 Swap - part 1
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Introduction to my MR2 engine swap - A monster v8
Looking forward to hearing this run! a long way off yet though
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3rd gen MR2's are one of the great underappreciated gems in the world of affordable compact sports cars. Such a shame they weren't as common or well supported when new as the likes of the Miata. To see an incredibly well executed build on one feels a bit like peering into an alternate timeline.
Shhh! 🤫
Dude dude relax!!! 😅
I absolutely love mental engine swaps like this. I can't wait to see the results! It's very unique 👌 and thats what makes it awesome.
I've been waiting 10 months, where the hell is the swap video? Or maybe the update video?
That IS a crazy project ! I'm looking forward to seeing how this Monster Can fit in a little MR2.
It’ll squeeze in. Just need to lose a few bits… like the fuel tank
In my opinion you're using the wrong gearbox there, the OB1 A5 gearbox will save you 8" of forward space, ie the engine can sit 8" further back, I've uses the OB1 twice now and the OE1 once with audi v8 engines, consider the OB1.
You are not the first to mention the ob1. I thought it was a little longer to be honest. I’ll definitely look into that.
It's the fact the axles exit right at the bellhousing face that helps with a mid engined fitment.
@@WoodsportPaul ah I see. Thanks Paul I’ll look into it. The o1e only has 3 bolts that match up to the engine. Does the ob1 bolt up better too? Would you recommend anyone for making a flywheel? Any advice from yourself is very welcome.
@@SpyderLEE Hi lee, im using a 2jz vvti and a O1e box on my sw20 project, If you intend to put turbos on it then as you mentioned 600ish bhp is going to be a limit, Tho its probably the torque that's the important factor. ive already planned the next step and that's o1e sequential, its about £10k to get one. however I shouldn't be limited then.
@@2jzmr246 thanks. It’s definitely something to think about. My initial thoughts are to just get it in NA and get it working. From there I think the costs will significantly jump so at that point I’ll rethink things.
Think the algorithm sent me here after watching Stav do his 20v mr2s. Looks a cool project and we don't see V8 swaps in any car very often here in the UK so this is awesome
Im an Audi tech and I think you are absolutely insane. Can’t wait to see how you approach it!
Thank you for updating us on your most recent project and future car plans, it’s fun watching the potential of these little cars being realized on your channel. Great video, I look forward to the build 😁
WOW... this brings back some old memories. Back in the early 80's, my friend bought a brand new Toyota MR2. First runs of car were the W10 series. It was a fun car to drive and just ride in. Had another friend with the Pontiac Fiero. It was so much fun too. MR2 had a inline 4 while the Fiero had a V6. MR2 was lighter and could keep up with the V6 Fiero which was a heavier car.
I bought a Mazda Miata in the early 2000's. It had a inline 4 with tuned intakes and exhaust. It was light and plenty fast. Turned on a dime, stopped abruptly, and accelerated great. It too was a fun 2 seat true sports car like the MR2 and Fiero.
I graduated from beginner's entry level sports cars and bought a Maserati GT instead. Ferrari made the engine, had a rear transaxle with ultra quick paddle shifters, and enough power and top end to leave everyone looking like a little dot in rear view mirrors and getting smaller by the second.
Engines.... can't go wrong with SBC (Small Block Chevy) I'm working on several. One is 4" bore and 3" stroke 302 CI / 5.0 Liter. Another is 4" bore and 4" stroke = 402 CI / 6.6 Liter. Both have compound forced induction: Twin Screw Supercharger being fed pressurized air from Turbochargers. No lag, linear boost curve, and power in excess of 1,250 hp / 932 kw. Just started work on the SBC 502 CI / 8.2 Liter.
We haven't made final pick of engines for a project car 10 years in the making. 5.0 Liter is cutoff displacement for certain racing classes. Initial design was twin SCC's 302 CI / 5.0 Liter 1,250 hp. Both front and rear mid-engine layout with center crash resistant cockpit. With 2,500 hp it might be world's fastest 'street legal' car. Only speed limitation are tires.
Keep us informed... great project to be part of.
Looking forward to seeing how this project goes although I suspect it may be a little while until it is complete! 😄
Yes I also suspect it may take a while
@@SpyderLEE Transverse V8? Or are you using an adapter plate or Porsche trans?
i love everything about this cant wait for the update
Omgoodness yes! I’m definitely subbed to this. Gonna be an epic build. And that V8 sound is gonna give goosebumps 🤤
1:36 = Toyota Engine Cover = Best way to hide from Smog Police lol
Looking forward to how this turns out. I've never seen a v8 Mk3 before! Good luck with it! And when are those cheeky twin turbos going on??👀
Lol once it’s done twin turbos would have to be next!
@@SpyderLEE a bit like a mid engine lexus lc500 or lotus exige/evora with lc500 engine
@@SpyderLEE if u like electric cars, theres aptera motors
There's one guy in the US who did it a long time ago and posted a single video of it driving down the street. Never heard anything more about that car though
I love "one of" builds. It's a process, have patience and the car gods will bless you with a journey that's not so hard.
I love it. I'm sure someone in the US would say drop in an LS. Audi V8 is damn nice and perfect for this car!
Holy shit, an actually interesting V8 swap-- most people just LS swap so color me impressed.
holy mackerel!!!!! 4.2 hahahahahahahaaaaa..... its so compact.... reminds me of paul woods' V10 monster (that we never really got to see....!) GOOD LUCK LEE!!!!!! Can't wait for further updates. Looks mega.
Great Project! Looking forward to seeing the build.
Me too 😂
Paul woods made simular in a mk1 mr2 years back.. there is something with v8... love it.. v12 not so much..
Going to be xiting to follow this build
Damn, that's a really nice looking late MR2. First time I've ever desired one.
Loved the video. Cannot understand a word of the technical stuff. Wish I could. Have a big standard mk111 but can always dream
With fuel tank in front would highly recommend to use FIA-spec fuel cell instead of custom fabricated tank. Much less chances to get on fire in case of accident because of fuel spilling
My guess is a Taurus SHO v8 because the 60° angle would seriously help it fit. 2gr swaps are hard enough.
II just found your channel as I love mr2's. I subbed immediately! Fantastic motor for a mr2. I cannot wait to see you working on this project.
what the V8 that's mad. 280 HP is already more than enough been Watching you for a while Lee good luck with the swap mate I have a MR2 also can see it on my channel work in progress
Those are such chick cars, but holy crap did you make a true man’s beast. What a great build.
looking forward to this build
Looking forward to seeing more from this project!
Used to have one with a 2zz turbo and it was at 345hp and manual ofcourse.
It's an interesting technical exercise but you're mad to do it because when that's in the car the front of the engine is going squashed up against the firewall and the back of the gearbox casing will be stuck out behind the back wheels.
This means that if anyone ever runs into the back of you the first thing they will hit is your gearbox and this will push that enormous engine straight into the passenger compartment leaving you squashed against the dashboard!
You've totally removed any crumple zone and replaced it with a 400lb battering ram!
Best of luck with that...
Just found your channel Lee, and that MR2 looks just wicked!!! 👌
Can't wait to see the RS-plant installed, what a genuine _beast_ that would turn out to be!...
Best of wishes from 🇳🇴
(Needless to say, you got yourself a brand new sub! 😉👍)
V8 - Ok now you have our attention
Thanks for sharing
Love your work
There was an AW11 back in the day that had this very swap but done with a lower output version of the 4.2, I think it was a 40 valve version, but it was sick. Videos oughtta still be on youtube actually
ua-cam.com/video/ir79-mL7Olc/v-deo.html
Any updates?
Definitely looking forward to this cannot wait to see how that goes,i would love to do that to my Turismo Avalance GT definitely needs something like this good luck with the build 👍🏾
Would be awesome on a car with that kit
100% I have turbo kit to go hopefully the same power as your current engine then maybe a twin turbo set in the future
Keep the content going great work 👍🏾
This is awesome I really don't like mr2 but I love audi v8 you should do a 180 °manifold on it I'm doing one a Porsche cayenne at the moment and it's all = lenth and that makes the pipe work look so cool have a look at my short to see what I'm talking about that will make it sound like a lambo
In my opinion you're using the wrong chassis 😁 ....SW20 surely? In all seriousness Lee, its going to be great when finished. Keep at it.
Holy moly, nice!
Gonna be a sick little "baby 918 Spyder" ! All the "weight weenies" gotta relax... It's not like H-swaps or RB-swaps have never been done. 200lbs added will not destroy your cars ability to drive haha, especially not with a decent bump in torque! Mr2 swaps are for the big boys down for a challenge...
Could that V8 be from Yamaha's? The one they used in Volvo XC90s and S80s 😎
edit. Wow, I was totally wrong on that one 😁 Maybe the Yamaha 4.4L V8 is bit too exotic even for your project! Good to see you mate doing once again these two awesome projects! Cheers!
Thats what im thinking too..
Yamaha v8 . From volvo xc90/s80 car... Much more compact dimension
But engine sourcing is pretty hard...not much layin around...transaxle fitment gonna be some headache
I didn't know the xc90 v8 was a Yamaha. They used that same motor in the Noble m600 or one of the Nobles.
Before watching: my guess is the twin Hayabusa V8 used in the Jun Subaru BRZ 😅 edit: those Audi 4.2 engines are supposed to be great. Interesting choice!
Are you sure fitting the engine in place will not be a huge challenge? Are you planning to leave the fuel tank on the oem place? I don't think that's possible. What about the rear subframe? I wouldn't say it needs to be completely custom fabricated. Man this car will be a huge fabrication job! I am very excited 😅
Yes it will be a huge challenge. No the fuel tank will have to go and a custom fabricated one will go in the front. The rear subframe will need to be custom fabricated too as the gearbox sits lower than the subframe. Yes it will be a huge fabrication job. I am excited too.
Should have snagged a Volvo V8 or an LS4. Both can be easily setup for transverse use as they were in FWD cars.
I'd love to see a K48 by Neutron in here.
Yeah that looks a great engine!
Check the EMU black ecu and loom from RRR, could be a good start point.
Im using on the 1zz before dropping a different engine in.
i have concerns about how the body hold this big power, its convertable you must do some havy bracing , the full cage will be better because of twisting of bodywork.
im thinkin its the 3.0 v8 hayabusa thing from the arial atom 500
Beautiful job with the car as it is, your 1ZZ is incredible. I can't wait to see it with the V8. Will you have to move the firewall forward to fit it in?
Yep 😁
nice ride 👍
I was thinking that you would mount the v8 like the fwd LS engines
Those 4.2 with superchargers run like 10sec 1/4 in a 4000lb car lol. This thing would be 10s in the 1/4 all motor if it can hook and stay straight. 😬
Honestly the MR2 is underpowered but can look amazing in a good build (like this one). putting a LS3/LS7 in it would be amazing to help it perform the part. Took me a second to remember that this isnt a super car but can look the part.
Ls3 is tricky to fit without cutting lots. Easier to put it in a better platform ultima/superlite and avoid Audi crap for a track car.
With Petrol Costs So High in The UK I think I may have gone with the 2GR or EV West Electric Kit, But at the same time you simply cant beet a V8.
If you ever find a way to fit this in, I would love to see how. Im planning on doing something similar with a o1e and a supercharged 3.0t, as you can get 400+whp out of those easily and its a good platform.
I would have went with the V8 just because of the sound but I was thinking about how much more room you would have with an R32 VR6 engine
VR's are quite heavy. Choosen engine may be not lighter, or probably heavier, but it will have much better power to weight ratio
Hayabusa twins maybe. Like the Radical v8
First time viewer, I like your style :-) you earned a sub, can't wait to see the swap!
Love the car/love the idea..V8 MR2 sounds great...thumbs up..BUT Audi? VW? doesn't sound great this manufacturer's cars are so problematic that if you own a stock clean unmodified low mile cream puff example it's going to give you problems that will make an experienced mechanic take a hammer and beat it to death... just a unpleasant foul group of cars..I go to the auto dismantling yards all the time and always see beautiful Audi's Porsche boxster's plenty of VW 's with no accident damage... nothing..not a scratch..why is it there? because it's such a lemon the owners just chose to sell the car for 100 bucks and take the loss...f-it..at least I'm done with it...ahhh I can sleep tonight....ya..and your planning on using this drivetrain... scratch your plans now and save yourself alot of problems/money...pick another drivetrain... perhaps take a look at welding a full subframe in the car and a driveshaft tunnel...and go go aluminum V8 ? the options are endless with the money to do it..take a look at Jay Leno garage channel he built a V8 Ford festiva just like that.. front engine V8 rear diff ... take a look at the VW bug V8 kit turns a bug into front engine V8 rear diff...it's really not a problem if you got the cash...but Audi..VW...they sell them new for 80.000 /100.000 and in a few years it's going for 5/10.000...why? Yah pick another drivetrain...
One thing about the 2nd revision 1ZZ-FE motors... CHANGE OIL EVERY 3000 MILES (for regular driving). If you go out for a good hoon on the track, change it when you get back. Half the 1zz's ive seen in other cars tell you to change every 4-6k miles with full fossil/synthetic blend and 7k with full synth. Load of BS. I can't remember what the standard of oil change intervals is in the MR-2 Spyder but if I am not mistaken, it is a similar story. It has been too long since my MR2 has been on the road. Had a Toyota master tech tell me all of this after I cooked my second engine. OH!... also, do away withthe stock pre-cat exhaust manifold. They cook, fall apart and clog the primary cat. this will load your cylinder with soot and ceramic dust in turn destroying your rings and scoring your cylinders. I love a good V8 Swap though! Can't wait to see this.
😳 your going to need a NASA driving licence for that if you get that in 😱 I would recommend putting a porta potty under the passenger and possibly drivers seat to save any embarrassment. This is going to be an epic build!
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You might want to check out Frankenstein Motorworks' body controller for the chassis, unless you want to run a gauge cluster off of whatever standalone you choose
I’ll check that out. I’ve Heard of them. Does it do the abs too?
@@SpyderLEE I don't think it does ABS but he has a YT channel too and is very responsive. I know it will run the radiator fans and keeps the stock gauge cluster functionality
Been wondering how this project was getting along.. then I had a thought.. why don't you get your hands on a 'donor chassis' MR2 mk3 to use as a dummy to build and test the setup before you go proper on your pride and joy. So if you do make any mistakes, they can be identified before any unnecessary cuts are made on your main car.
Just a thought, I know this is going to be a very expensive project, but we don't need it to be too costly 😎👍
Keep up the great vids 👍
I was miles off!, I was hoping for an SRT V8 , the 2.6 made from two hyabusa engines. Pretty crazy engine but would be amazing in a lightweight sports car.
Has an Audi V8 not been fitted to an Elise?
Coyote Ford mustang engine
I’m case you Americans didn’t know, straight through = Straightpipe, Garege = Garage and engine pass by = engine blow by. You’re welcome
My guess without looking at comments or looking ahead is the 1UZ-FE. I have one in my gs400 and it's a fantastic motor. In an mr2 it would be sublime
It's gonna be a crate LS swap? Maybe a blueprinted one if it's really special.
Luv and Peace.
I just hope it's not a rover V8...
Light weight = GM small block. If going with something special and staying in the Toyota family, my vote is 2UR-GSE.
Two Zed Zed not Zeeee yes I’m from the Uk brilliant and well said 👍 first time I’ve seen your channel from a UA-cam recommendation….new subscription here 👍
I'd think a 2ZZ-GE would be more appropriate. MWR has done greater than 500hp with the 2zz and it's much easier to work with
Wouldn't be trubo VR6 be better? both space but mainly weight, tho this V8 is "light" but still
That will be fantastic content carnt wait to see this in the car👍👍
Toyota/Lexus UR/UZ V8 is my guess- and if my man spent the time and money to do this, he’s a true legend.
Thank you so much! Your videos are great and I’m glad someone’s shining some light on the Spyder. I’ve been wanting to do a project on this car and haven’t felt like I’ve had all the right info so this is fantastic
So what would be wicked in that car is the new Toyota Yaris three cylinder motor if you ever found one wrecked that would be sweet to put in that car lightweight 300+ horsepower
LS v-8 a la Cleetus McFarland... that's my guess even though it would never fit.
I really don't think that engine fits in the tiny MR2 but I look forward to being proven wrong, can't wait! 😁
Pardon me, but did I just hear F150 Mustang? What kind of vehicle is that?
The engine weighs 1.42 times as much as the 1ZZ-FE (225 lbs) + a full gas tank (81 lbs). Then you're going to put a gas tank up front. I would put some ballast in the back and front to see how the car feels to drive with the new weight distribution. The original weight distribution is supposed to be 43/57 and it will be a challenge to maintain that, although I guess with some ballast and the gas tank in the front it's not impossible. When fuel burns off the car will become more and more rear biased and prone to oversteer so that's something to think about. Anyhow, good luck! It should be a rocket!
Can I swap in an Audi S6 V10 FSI? Also what body kit did you use?
LS WITH A T 56 IS SOMWTHING I ALWAYS WANTED N A MR2 FOR PARTS AVAILABILITY, DURABILITY AND RELIABILITY BUT WHEN THOSE AUDI V8S ARE RUNNING THEY ARE A DREAM!
good but overkill. will be watching!
why not the toyota 1UZ 4Liter v8?
You put an engine from an unreliable brand into the engine bay of a reliable brand..... Ouch
Very intriguing, I can't wait to see the outcome. I agree about the sound. 👍🏽👌🏾
Awesome Lee the MR2 is gonna be a beast, what do you do for a living mate? Sorry if you said before
My guess is the busa v8
1uz would probably work and fit. But which transmission can you use on it tho?
Turn that beast of a engine into a coffee table. It wont get used if it goes in your car.... 😉
3sgte make all the power you want
My 1ZZ had the same oil burning issues. Put oil in every time I filled up
I would be worried about the reliability...
Don’t get more reliable than a stock engine.
what wide body is on this car? Looks great. Wondering how much you payed
Toyota 1UZ... thatd be the coolest swap you could do.
Edit: ok that's pretty cool too.
Santa needs a shave
Anybody else want to scream at that turquoise car for cutting us off
If you manage to pull it off, it'll be one wild MR2.
Sweet car but what made you go with this gen? Imo the other gen look so much better..
GM made a transverse version of the LS engine. That might be easier to swap in.