Honda Elevate problems discussed | Detailed review | Pros & cons
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2024
- Honda Elevate, a compact SUV, is finally introduced in India. By 2030, Honda wants to introduce five further SUVs in India, with this one being the first. In Honda India's range, the Elevate sits above the Amaze.
The Honda Elevate has a brash and powerful appearance. A massive grille with a substantial chrome surround dominates the front fascia. The LED headlights provide a sleek, swept-back appearance. Strong shoulder lines and massive 16-inch alloy wheels define the side profile. LED taillights and a twin exhaust system are featured on the back.
The Honda Elevate's cabin is roomy and nicely furnished. The dashboard has a 7-inch touchscreen infotainment system and is tastefully designed. Digital and analogue dials are combined in the instrument cluster. The seats are supportive and cosy. Both front and rear passengers have plenty of headroom and legroom in the Elevate.
A comprehensive variety of features are included with the Honda Elevate as standard equipment.
- Informational touchscreen device with a 7-inch display and Android Auto and Apple CarPlay
- climate control that is automatic
- cruise control
- sensors for rear-parking
- push-button start
- Keyless entry
- four power windows
- Powered-adjustable mirrors
- EBD and ABS
- Dual airbags
A 1.5-liter, four-cylinder petrol engine with 119 horsepower and 145 Nm of torque powers the Honda Elevate. The 5-speed manual or CVT automatic transmissions are paired with the powerplant.
Performance and fuel economy are well-balanced in the Elevate. It has a top speed of 170 km/h and can accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in 11.5 seconds. Additionally, the Elevate achieves fuel economy ratings of 15.31 km/l in the city and 16.92 km/l on the highway.
The riding quality of the Honda Elevate is smooth. It absorbs potholes and bumps well. The suspension is calibrated nicely and provides a good compromise between comfort and handling. In constrained locations, the Elevate is very simple to manoeuvre. A subcompact SUV with a superb blend of performance, fuel economy, features, and safety is the Honda Elevate. It is a terrific option for those seeking a sleek, useful SUV at a reasonable price.
The Honda Elevate is priced from Rs. 11.04 lakh to Rs. 16.24 lakh (ex-showroom, Delhi).
Compared to the Skoda Kushaq and Volkswagen Taigun, the Honda Elevate has the following advantages:
Compared to the Kushaq and Taigun, the Elevate has a longer wheelbase and a wider stance, giving passengers greater leg and shoulder room. Additionally, it offers a bigger boot space. The Elevate offers better value for money because to its somewhat reduced pricing compared to the Kushaq and Taigun.
The grille, headlights, and bumper on the 2023 Nexon have all been updated. The headlamps are now sleeker and more contemporary, and the grille is now larger and more imposing. New fog lights and air intakes have been added to the bumper, which has also undergone remodelling.
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Appreciate the exhaustive review! I think the pros quite outweigh the cons? More than cons, I could emphasize with your anguish & frustration that Honda with a little more application could have produced an outright winner beating Creta/Seltos hollow but failed to do so?
While they got almost everything right but for a few important misses in terms some features, cabin insulation, standard 6 Airbags .....
However, I think Creta's city mileage is piss poor ( I own a Creta automatic for last 6 years) & lower than Elevate.....as many readers have already pointed out so it really can't be a "Con" of Elevate!
Just announced 6 airbags in all variants.
Recently, one of the Honda dealers informed me that they can update the camera system in Honda City to 360 degrees camera on payment. Hope they can do the same in Honda Elevate also.
Sir Pl. Make a review on gv smart hybrid....not the strong one... also
Moreover on ertiga also for n in view of a family car....please...
I drove zx cvt from Chandigarh to Gurdaspur (240 kms) and i got milage of 20.3 kmpl. Avg speed was 85-90, AC ON, 2 passengers. Really happy with that.
Tank to tank or mid ??
My gave 22.5 four passengers, boot fully loaded on meerut- delhi
@@7676ankush Tank to tank
@@7676ankush tank to tank
Mine gives me single digit average in city. What’s your take ?
Agree with all the cons but we cannot judge the build quality of a Vehicle just with the door quality alone right ?
All the main pillars of the car chasis are build to absorb the impact of unexpected events through which we can judge the overall build quality of the car in terms of safety right ?
How is the back seat? Can 3 people sit comfortably as the center position of the seat is higher....thought center person may feel uncomfortable....
I agree with one point that in VX variant they have included Sunroof but not Cruise control, This is so frustrating !!
And yes the lower milage issue. Rest all are not big concerns or drawbacks at all.
I drive a Kushaq it also gives full visibility of the front both sides. Blind spots not there or very minimal
opted for ZX Manual. Smooth trip from Ayodhya to Bhopal with a fully loaded family. As a spacious ciaz user, my family is satisfied with the Elevate.
But mujhe reverse karte samay knock jaisa mehsoos hua mild sa slope me. aapko mehsoos hua kya? Or is it normal? I will check this with our 1.5L Ciaz also.
Whats the safety rating
Recenty i had visit honda showroom and they said software glitch has been resolved and last of April month we will provide to all customers.
When will you talk about mg hector?
I own base model and i believe that it offers a great value for money at that price bracket, so completely disagree on that point, rest it's a just few months old, let it's facelift be in market, also 360 camera and pana sunroof are only aesthetic things, no brand offers at this price level, also I don't know why people insist so much on cruise control, if you are lazy enough not to drive your vehicle just hire a driver, and regarding music system dear it's a car to travel not your bedroom with home theater, let things do better what they are supposed to be, a good music system without distraction is required just not to get drives boring, not meant to disco, Elevate is a great product however there are scopes of improvement everywhere, highly recommended
I'm glad you enjoy your car and don't think features like this are significant, but since everyone has a different viewpoint, it was necessary for me to address all of these points because I'm addressing a wide range of people. Something that seems minor to you could be major issue to someone else.
Creta is giving panoramic sunroof at 16 lakh on road price. Cruise control seems basic when your legs need some rest while driving for long distances. It's not only about enjoying, few features are meant to help and cruise control is one of them.
By 'basic' i mean basic need
Is rear view camera with display available in showroom,along with LED fog lamp? At what price?
Fully agree with yr view ...I own ELEVATE V CVT...and I feel this price bracket I bought 14.55 lk onroad for it.. no need more features happy too have it ...
Please give detailed review on Volkswagen Taigun
It's a very practical car! Features mean increasing cost! Yes, some basic low-cost features like rear window curtains and type C ports would have been welcome!
bhai astor doesnot sell even 1000 units per month, how does it compare with elevate whihc sales 5000 units per month
a very nice review ! i am not very happy about engine noise and road noise (NVH) in rhe cabin. noise insulation could have been a lot better.
You missed the very big con
Cabin insulation very poor
I own Honda Elevate ZX CVT. I'm super happy with the car. Yes, it NVH levels are 30%-40% more than seltos, creta etc. and engine noise is only when you are overtaking quickly else its butter smooth. I am trying to have rubber binding to doors to see if I can reduce the noise levels by 10-15%. Provided that the car is spacious and comfortable for long drives with family and most importantly you get safety + reliability + good after sales service which no other brand offers at this price range.
Having clocked 4500 kms. The ADAS worked completely fine. The drive is effortless and very comfortable with good suspension. Yes, there are cost cuttings and fitting issues + panel gaps in this car. I wish Honda could have fixed it.
What about the external noise/tyre sound from Elevate itself? Is it bearable?
@@sreenivaskampala : Its bearable, and there is a resolution this issue that's going on internally between owners and Honda. I may not be right to comment it here but yes there is lot of traction going on this issue and we can get fix for this soon. But you can't reject this vehicle on this factor alone, since its very good car. I have driven it on highways and city.
@@manishchitre5130 Is Honda giving assurance/guarantee to reduce the noise level?
@@sreenivaskampala : its too early to comment on this at the moment we have raised issue to higher managment and now its with R&D department to come with a fix. But the overall NVH is 30-40% higher than seltos and creta.
@@manishchitre5130 Right now noise level & music system hanging issue is deal breaker for me. Hence waiting for some concrete solution from Honda for these two issues :))
Honda Golden days r not far away... I can already see the change in my home town... especially with well informed car ppl like u spreading such information .. we will reach there in no time
Am glad honda got this , I don't want super features.
I want longevity and simply a car tht I can trust on. Am buying this against all your cons .
And it'a meaningful car with safety adas and lane watch + stability instead of show off.
Ty for your interest toward Honda overtaking everyone .tht will only take the price higher😅
An apparantley zx cvt gives more mileage thn an MT
Like I said if honda offers a variant above zx with features to match hyundai cars like panoramic sunroof and other fancy features they can pull the few customers back to their showroom who want fancy features, doing this will improve their market share. This way you can still go for zx and be satisfied and others can look for even better option..customer is the king - the more variants and choice you offer the better.
@@autocritic True. Thankyou you helped in my journey of choosing the car ! Booked Meteriod Grey ZX CVT. Color choosing was big headache too and ended up with Grey and Chrome Railings.
Thankyou again bro . best thing is you put across stuff dipolomatically :)
Also Honda is not in the game of selling volumes at all and they are happy with units being sold the salesman told me and it will only improve they are confident.
Congratulations 🎉🎉 you got an amazing car..hope you make wonderful memories with it..always stay blessed ❤️
Honda Elevate pros also better driving dynamics
@autocritic agree with ur point... uninformed buyers ko attract karne k liye they need those bells and whistles of Korean cars
At 15.5L V CVT was cheapest and best in segment in Dec’23. (Compare all in the same price and variant including grand vitara ) and real time delhi mileage is 11-12 and on highways 16 . And I don’t think even creta gives more than that.
for a person who doesnt own Elevate, you are bang on. KUDOS! Keep on the good work !
@ Auto Critic. You have not covered music system/speaker out put. How is the sound quality? I know Honda not fitted Bose or Harman. Not sure on which brand they used it. Is the sound quality good enough? or is it a deal breaker?
Sorry I missed it brother...the system is not the best, but the sound quality is very good.
@@autocritic Thanks. I am still unable to decide between Creta S(O) Automatic Vs Elevate ZX CVT. Looking for a car to keep it for 10-15 years tenure for family. Took test drive (Elevate) I am worried about cabin noise….
Honda uses Sony
Is no 3 point seatbelt for rear middle passenger a deal breaker if safety is topmost priority.
They just launched new Elevate with this safety feature. Not sure on effectiveness though as it was omitted in first design and then added
@@parekhhardikb yes Hardik , the news came after i posted this comment.
Inclusion of six airbags from base trim, headrest and 3 point seat belt for middle passanger is a great decision.
I think it is going to increase the sale because only those who prefer safety are going for elevate and now they can opt for any varient.
Yes , I hope they get the vehicle crash tested too.
Completely agree with your opinion bhai, Honda had a chance to dominate the market with Elevate but it seems they themselves were not excited about this product otherwise they should have made something exciting about this car. They did a good job in all important areas but there is a void in other areas.
Well analyzed and balanced. Thank you @autocrtic. NVH is reportedly more..not expected of a premium brand. 360 ° camera and good radar based adas are important safety features that it misses.
Crisp stuff with deep analysis, Nice efforts/video overall
Thanks for your well informed opinion!
Third passenger head rest is missing.
Regards.
2024 models rectified that issue
You have completely missed discusses ADAS. Taigun Kushal don’t have it. Creta Seltos don’t have at price of ZX CVT elevate. In my view at 16 lakh ex show room this is far more feature rich than others. You need to compare features at same price points.
No one is saying about the leg space issue for the co-driver. Weird hump makes it a cramped experience for long drive.
Hello....what about cabin noise issue...its the most biggest con as reported by other reviewers...whats your take on that
khud chalao khud jaan jao 😉 Mentos
U r the best reviewer bro😍👍. Plss continue ur videos 👍
Yes you are right my brother 😊
I bought Taigun few months ago n I was trying to like elevate but unfortunately it was not exciting at all…
I went for VW bcz of driving pleasure which is unmatched for me in this segment n I could find none for elevate….
I feel it is only for elders or the ones who are above 45…
I am getting Dec 2023 manufactured honda elevate zx cvt at 85000 discount. Is it good deal.
Great deal bro , i tried in blr and couldn't suceed.
Just tht make sure you check the vehicle and be satisfied bfr the purchase
Thanks bro. I bought the same.
Price is the reason period❤ honda
Good information but I think you missed on mentioning about cabin noise as very much said about it by other reviewers.
We must not forget that, despite of having only one engine option, they are selling 5000 units per month. Except Creta and GV, other rival like Seltos having petrol-diesel engines and many variants is not selling very high nos. Also Kushaq, Taigun and Astor having more engine options are far behind than Elevate.
This speaks about the trust on the brand like Honda.
I believe that it is a very sensible car.
Cabin noise problem
Honda name has a retutation of being most reliable car manufacturer
But if they fail to understand the liking of Indian customers who have moved ahead with world class technologies available with other brands
Hyundai petrol engines are as good as of Honda IV tech engines even more refined in terms of noise and vibration
Means there is hardly any difference to attract customers by telling that elevate has engine of city NoWay
Not a noticeable superiority any more ,the days of Fiat and ambassador are gone now when Honda stood as car with premium tech engines , now almost all similar capacity petrol engines of different companies are as smooth and peppy as of city
Again petty features are missing , front facia is not attractive though loos are subjective but not good looking at all just boarng design , Honda could have borrowed the looks from CRV could have been super hit with design as well
what is the better SUV option for strictly city driving?
You don't need an SUV if your driving is only limited to the city. Buy a smaller car & save money.
I bought sept 2023 model zx mt at 15.75 lacs on road with 10k accessories.is it a good deal?
Very good deal
If have window glass open than sounds differently than all closed.. 5 star means built quality is good..
Honda should have launched the same Hrv that they have in the Indonesian Market. They have the hybrid hrv to compete with grand vitara hyryder, HRV rs to compete with creta n line and taigun, kushag 1.5l but they wasted all their r&d in this years to develop elevate for the indian market
Problems are in every vehicle not only elevate
Exelent
Honda elevate V Cvt is very good car & value for money variant , in our Bharat sunroof is not yet necessary feature coz there is lot of heat in our country climate & there will be compromise in safety & also gimmic features are not necessary like ambient lighting etc
Very nice detail review
You are spot on with your Review on ELEVATE.
Honda except for City they have always been offering Step motherly treatments to their models.
That's precisely the reason why JAZZ, WR-V,..... were forced to discontinue.
Coming to Elevate. Why on earth the did not offer the same feature list as on City.
City offers the best & Comfortable Seats but it's not the same on Elevate.
Elevate Cabin Insulation also is poor. Engine Noise is too much when from Mid to high when you Rev it hard.
To be honest they are forced to offer Elevate.
The idea is to get buyer to enter showroom for Elevated & on comparison with CITY they offer you CITY as far Better option.
Incase if they they do not offer more or better than competition shortly. Their Elevate Sales will start declining for sure.
Its NOW or NEVER.
Overall
I took a test drive and also checked with the salesman who was very knowledgeable and his words about the compromise in some areas is because Honda doesn't treat this product at the same level as City and this is mid-size SUV so some premiumness will still be maintained in City... They have priced it and provided features to attract customers from its 4.3 m segment of cars
Totally agree with you
In Disadvantage you missed car bounces more on rear end at unsettled Cemented pavment roads .😊
Even my VW was bad on cemented roads. It is the shoddy road builders and not car issue.
Have been driving Elevate from 1 month . I feel cabin noise on cemented highways from tires is way too much , i felt as if i got some air pocket stuck somewhere . Elevate is really awesome with driving quality . The D mode in lower rpms has a rubber effect . But the sports mode is really good . The driving seat movement is quite less . The driving feel cause of bonet is beautiful . But Honda could have made this product really good but for some reason they missed the buck ..............I am already Bored from the car though .
Shot 11:00 superb man
If Honda will outsource it's spare parts then sell will increase. Because it's labour cost is very high. By the way Honda cars are reliable.
I have driver 6000 Km. Totally driven in city , with traffic always . I am easily getting 12-13 km/ltr. Mileage.
So single digit mileage, I doubt.
I own VX model of Elevate. And Driving this car is absolutely pleasure. If compared to other Car in its segment with non turbo engine, the engine of Elevate is bullet proof and much more powerful. No problem in running it to the speed of 150 KMPH and intact asks for more at higher rpm. Another good thing is you don’t need to downshift the gear during the hill drive. And its handling is gold standard (not comparing with German cars which I consider to be best in the category). I agree on lack of features, but features are again depends upon person’s choice. While I prefer comfortable and power drive, other might like interiors to be aesthetic and techno driven.
i bought vx cvt this week what mileage do you get?
@@subinchentha3015 I get 14KMPL with daily running of approx 70 Kms. 30% Expressway 70% city roads in Delhi NCR.
@@subinchentha3015 give your review. I am planning to buy one soon
The city seems to have hit the Speed Breaker had , like all cities do, and the skid plate has come off and you decided to run it that way !! True City Life.
Yaar apko thud sound light kaise lagti hai ? Seltos Creta 24 Lakhs ki gaadi ka thud sun liyo....😊
Main problem is NVH... it is so much...!! I hav zx cvt, everything is fine but tyre and road noise irritates.
For city usuage does noise really a concern? And for old school driving, enjoy the rage is also fun 😂
@@pavankumarjet. No way in today’s senario such higher NVH levels are unacceptable in this category of cars
@@sarvesh17march I have driven it , and isn't tht bad..not sure what is high and whats the acceptable range
Absolutely correct reading..
Honda city ne ventilated seat lagao and tyre size badana chahiye. Thoda futuristic ho jana chahiye.
I think you're missing out a point, Honda isn't targeting Creta audience. Honda's are and have always targeted a more sensible crowd. I agree Elevate misses out on gimmick features, but these cars are built to last. My mother owns a Honda City 4th gen and now planning to switch to Elevate. I think it's overall a great long term car.
Hi, I have been told that because of Honda's Low Sales in India and its service and Parts being expensive, I shouldnt opt for Amaze. Instead go for Venue or Brezza or Creta. I feel Amaze is an amazing Product which lack latest and greatest, however price to performance and value seems to be amazing. Only thing that bothers me is what if Honda Ramps up its service. What if Honda parts become really scares. I currently own a 13 year old Wagon R which has given me hard time (So much for Hyped Maruti Service), however because the parts are so easy to find and cheap to procure, its amazing that way. What should I do. Should I consider buying Amaze CVT which seems to be a good deal or should I stick to Venue. Seems Brezza is freaking expensive and doesnt give me everything I need.
I have an Amaze since 2015. No need for part change.
Brands provide cheaper parts with cheaper quality and require frequent change.
If car itne futuristic and futures se bhar jayege then maintenance cost bhi bhandta he and car ka engine reliable ( strong) nahi milta iss bat ko samjhna padega ki engine car ki jaan hota he
I bought top model.without extended warranty
Will instal cng.and drive for more 12 yrs
Adas is must for all
Driving feels like you are driving a hycross
Noise levels are bad. And 360 camera+ventilated seats should have been there.
Clear verdict go for Vitatra
Tyear pressure monitoring system nahi aata
Got 20.5 on cruise .plus highway
City is 9/10/11/12
I have ZX CVT and agree with all pros and cons except fuel efficiency ,for me fortunately I have never seen single digit.
One more thing to add in cons : Honda Connect app is trash, almost unusable. Hyundai bluelink is much more refined and easy to navigate plus offers more features. I have raised issue on twitter handle but Honda India isn't even acknowledging that.
What honda is offering on Elevate is best in segment because if u check the price list this is the lowest price car so definitely they cut down the features like Panaromic sunroof, Ventilated seats, Big screen, etc. If u looks creta and Verna it's still feels like Shop of LED lights every where connected lights I personally not like it. If u see in global market they had Turbo charged 1.5 Ltr engines which produce 192 BHP 292 Torque more power than Creta, Kushaq, why they not introduce in India...the reason behind it Indians people still think about mileage...So what is honda is offering in this price points it's actually a value for money. Creta crossed 20 lacs so they have fancy features. After all every car has its uniqueness and good car
Absolutely...all true...
One point of engine Noise...u have not mentioned...otherwise all u have covered is to the point.
That is why if u remember I always insist that why don't u recommend gv zeta model....which has got all the features without sunroof....
Otherwise like in creta u get all necessary features along with sunroof...moreover gv has good mileage as well...I have also looked into each n every car ...n seems that if u want all basic n necessary features without sunroof ....then only gv zeta model is the one to go for..
Also Honda spares are not available in open market which is biggest drawback. Atleast when i owned a honda city back in 2008 i had to face this problem. Even in city like Ratnagiri in Maharashtra there wasn't a single showroom or honda service centre or touch points. Days are gone when one used to vouch for honda's quality and reliability, today almost all the car makers make reliable, fuel efficient and safe cars for indian consumers.Honda hasn't come out of their old mindset when they entered Indian market way back in 2000.Still they cant keep up on pricing or features front to compete in the market. Even after entering so late in the segment they have still to learn a lot from other car makers.
Hello. I need some help in deciding between Amaze and Aura. I am looking for automatic. Can someone please help
Go for amaze.. only worry point in amaze is ground clearance
@@Rudra-Panjolia Thanks for insight. I not much of an enthusiast so i usually drive in city (90%) with good to ok roads and 10% i would go somewhere like nearby places mathura/benaras/agra etc like twice in ayear. For me ground clearance is not an issue. I am also inkling more towards amaze ony i feel for my budget i need to compromise on top variant which has some safety features like (back camera, rear defogger, smaller tyres etc)
Spot on review. Sold Amaze after 5.5 years and was hunting for a good SUV. I hated Honda cars ground clearance. Thigh support also not good. And worse, the V CVT model did not have cruise control.
Honda has always treated India as a 2nd or 3rd class market. It shows in their attitude.
I waited for the Elevate. Test drove it 4 times. Saw that the V variant did not have cruise control and rear wiper, under thigh support not good, engine noise, power lag - overtaking on hwy would be an issue. VX had a sun roof which we did not want. Except for rear wiper, rest of the missed were present even in VX.
Dumped the elevate and purchased Taigun 1.0 TC. Hyundai and Kia - those 2 shiny item numbers were rejected.
When I had purchased the Amaze, I had almost argued with the dealer for the absence of cruise control. And still after 5 years same attitude, philosophy. No improvement.
Honda certainly is placing the Indian market lower down than others like south east Asia, Europe, US etc.
your city mileage quote is completely wrong
Gear shift indicator not available
As you said cruise control to be provided in VX model
Mileage in city traffic (Nagpur) I found 9.3kmph & highway drive (Nagpur to Jharsuguda 600km)18.3kmph
In terms of build quality is Honda elevated better or it’s creta ?
Honda Elevate
Way better than creta. No comparison
Elevate good only for 5'10 .. at 6ft.. you can only drive top variant- ZX anything lower-- your knew hits under steering and worse you can't even sit.
I would rather spend my money on brand who are willing to give their 100%, instead of lacklustre brand like Honda who are just using their age old tech and unwilling to put any effort in India.
Nice video❤🎉❤
Problem with elevate which makes it not value for money
1. Turbo engine missing
2. Feature distribution in varient
3. 360 degree camera
4. Body looks lighter
5. No hybrid
6. Under thigh support .
Engine Noise is there
I also get 20kmph on highway at decent speed of 80/90
We faced after sales very worst and bad service in one year okd amage .honda service time ,parts unavablity always and all very poor and time tajen service and any time car is breakdown so we cant expect from this old brand this is one of the big reason of honda market lost
I disagree with the city mileage you are talking about. I get 11-13 in the city.
which city?
@@samaybhatnagar9043 Ranchi
The only problem with this is the Dull interior..
I m big fan of Honda car. I want to purchase Elevate but there is a missing of Panaromic sunroof. I m comfortable with small sunroof but my children want big one as rival is also providing it. So sorry Honda...
Safety concern..with Big sunroof
Specially for sunroof if u r rejecting , not fair at all.
Don't go for Panaromic sunroof because in summers the cabin gets lot of heat and also you will compromise on safety.
very honest review
My Elevate ZX gave average of 22.5 kmpl on meerut- Delhi Highway
CVT or manual? Which type u have?
@@vishnukanth6999 CVT ZX
I will go for creta
You review is disappointing us..
You are not biased one
Samay k sath Chalna chahiye to hi tik paoge
Need review of Kia carens .
Honda elevate can compete but need 360 view, ventilated seats for now. rest is ok.
hyundai ivt gearbox is much better than honda. i wud prefer hyundai creta S(o) ivt over Elevate top model.
Might be Honda is their own way..not as the customer's way
I own zx mt.Cabin noise is so frustrating, Honda doesn’t have the common sense to contain poor noise insulation. Feeling like cheated by Honda.
Honda Elevate rocks 👍
Honda should have released the elevate in only one varient ZX... Everything else is just there causing confusion to the customers
Retune the engine for more torque.