Fun fact: Admiral Ozman was one of the original spartan II candidates but failed the augmentation process. After reading the files on what Halsey did to the Spartan II children she now has a personal vendetta against Halsey which is why she gave the order to have her executed.
If you read Glasslands you will know that Osman was far more professional and implied that she was simply doing what was necessary. For the record, I am aware of the "Training? You b#tch" quote from Osman's head, but she still kept things at a professional level and the novel even states that she wasn't exactly happy about arresting Halsey, but knew it had to be done. And why on Earth did you say "OZMAN"?
I actually think she hates halsey more because she felt thrown away after she failed the augmentation. And if you read the book, halsey seems like a very self centered person who can be a liability.
The spartan IV's were marines and ODST's, most of them lived a good life, with a family, friends, that's why they are so social and joke around. While the II's (master chief) were kidnapped as children to become Spartans, also indoctrinated by the UNSC, they pretty much were trained to do as the UNSC pleases. That's why they are so disciplined, all they have done their entire life is serve to the UNSC, they are very different and that's why it was cool when chief didn't obey del rio.
@@fighterjet1180 this is why Kurt or jorge is important. in halo reach they replaced kurt with jorge, tall man, humble and very sociable and also close to llls and sacrificed himself for them.
@@derpynerdy6294 Kurt was the trainer for the S-III program. He didn’t really work on any of their teams. Jorge was unknown to the fan base until Halo:Reach. He served as a nice bridge between the Halo fans’ love for the S-II lore and the newer, less intensely specialized S-III battalions. The Spartan-III program had lower standards for entry (as did the S-IV program), required chemical injections, had no bone hardening/plating surgeries, and were trained en masse (average of 2-300 in each training wave IIRC) for large scale suicide missions. The survivors would then be sent on subsequent suicide missions until expended. The S-II program was much more thorough and thus EXTREMELY expensive, but yielded much more efficiency in the field of battle. The successful mission percentage and kill ratio of the Spartan-II program far outweigh the hastily-trained and less-augmented S-III battalions.
Thorne put up a very good fight against that Elite, especially considering how tired he is. When fully armoured, a Spartan is roughly equal physically to that of an Elite. However, the vast majority of the strength of Mjolnir cannot be accessed if the helmet is not being worn. In the book 'First Strike' Chief was put into almost identical circumstances against an Elite, and was just barely able to scrape a victory, even with the full power of Mjolnir. The fact that Thorne was able to last as long as he did without the full strength of his armour is very impressive. Halsey was right when she put her trust in Thorne above the other Spartan-4s.
If 343 wanted enemies that were huge powerful and bulky then they should have just used the brutes again. The point of the elites is that they were large but exceptionally nimble and skilled.
@@chocolat-kun8689 well except in Halo:Reach. The elites there are simply terrifying on Legendary, and we thought Sniper Jackals were our bane. And please, dont tell me to simply use Plasma P./DMR.
@Splint3rb3n 343 rely on the books too much. To much of the series plot happens in the books rather than the games to the point people miss critical situation.
@@djcuevas1057 Eh, when it comes to Halo 4, the books were mostly backstory. The books don't explain how Cortana comes back. If there's a critical plot point that the games leave out that are in the books, it's the Didact's torture at the hands of the flood. But that came in Silentium _after_ Halo 4 released. Halo 5 doesn't explain how Cortana came back at all, and even the domain was thought to be destroyed by the end of the forerunner books, so even people who read those were confused about how it's suddenly back. 343's writing for the games was just disorganised. Not necessarily shit, just not well-planned at all.
@@djcuevas1057 Not really, when Halo CE and 2 both required you to read the Fall of Reach trilogy beforehand, and Halo 3 requires the reading of the uprising comics. ODST is standalone, but knowledge of the Fall of Reach trilogy is also pretty damn important due to the Engineers. Halo: Reach should be obvious. The plot of Halo 4 is complicated, but (pretty much) everything important from the books was summarised in the Halo 3 and 4 terminals. Halo 5 is the worst for the required reading, but that's mostly because fans bitched about Spartan Ops so they had to shove it all into books and comics.
MC was mentioned in episode 4, but he wasn't looking for Librarian. They were talking about when he encountered the Librarian in mission ... 5 I think? The Infinity escaped Requiem later in the campaign then comes back to blow a hole in the Didacts ship in Midnight. This takes place 6 months after the final mission of the campaign.
@@greggeverman5578 no, that fight is sh1t. the point of elite is fast, deadly and nimble even though they're large. Gek moved as fast as a snail and had a tons of excessive movements. 343 really like brute, they turned everthings to brute now.
@@greggeverman5578 well that fight looked more like a brawl, like a fight of brothers, if you see it that way i can like it too, like a real fight to death would have gone really differently and i understand why people complained about it, they just misunderstood the purpose of the fight
For those who don't know: Osman was a Spartan II, that was discharged from the program because she was one of the many that had something go wrong during augmentation. Parongsky took her under her wing as a protege, and hopefully a successor. Shes a spook with all the strengths of a Spartan, why exactly she was removed from training, I do not remember. She nowruns the Navy as Bravo Six, aka the boss
I agree with that. Samuel was a hell of a fighter/spartan. People fail to realize that John was just the most rounded off spartan at everything. Not the best but really good at every aspect of being a soldier...others were much better than he was in certain capacities. Such as Kelly with her speed and Sam with his pure physical strength.
Nice to finally see Serin Osman, been wondering where the hell was the ONI chief during all this. I just wish to see more characters from previous games and books.
Chief in Fall of Reach was struggling and evenly matched by a Sangheili Minor, and they were both completely alone. Physically both are evenly matched. Martially, sangheili have specific martial arts that they are taught as well, but are normally reserved for aristocrats and high ranking sangheili, which we have very few examples of in the books. It all boils down to mentality. A Spartan II will do whatever it takes to win. They fight purely for efficiency. Sangheili fight for honor and glory.
The Sangheili in Halo 4 are a separate faction from those that assisted humanity in Halo 3. Jul Mdama is even one of The Arbiters rivals back on their home planet after the 2 had a major argument on whether or not they should continue their onslaught against humanity. i can't remember which book i read that in, but you can find it in the Halo Wiki if you're curious enough. i hope that helped.
oh snap, the books are tying in the games! Osman looks kinda evil though... I can't wait to see how this plays out. Halsey, Jul Mdama, and the Storm Elites, vs. Arbiter, the Heretics, and Lord Hood's side of the UNSC, vs. ONI and that Parangosky's side of the UNSC, vs. The Human Rebels, vs. Didact and his Prometheans. Some of the conflicts will be subtle, but they will all definitely be important.
She only trained one batch of Spartan IIs, the only batch of SIIs. The Spartan IIIs were suggested by Colonel Ackerson and then authorized by Admiral Parangosky. There were three batches of SIIIs trained and if it weren't for the battle of Onyx there would have been four.
Admiral Osman hates Halsey but can't deny that if she wasn't kidnapped to be apart of the Spartan II program her life would be either awful or she'd be dead from the Human-Covenant war
Sangheili do not need augmentative armor. They are already naturally that strong and fast, while a spartan is reliant on their armor. A spartan without Mjolnir would find themselves substantially weaker and slower than a sangheili. It all boils down to the mentality. Sangheili want to fight for honor and glory. Spartans fight for efficiency. It's hard to engage someone to honorable melee combat when they shoo outt your kneecaps the moment they spot you. THAT is why spartans usually win.
I understand that’s their culture and part of the lore, but stealth kills feel kinda cheap to me. Where is there honor in killing someone who can’t see you? If you get stealth, I get your knee caps buddy
I dunno why, but Madsen cracks me up alot...especially when he was like,"Man, we've been looking EVERYWHERE for you," and also when he was like ,"oh great ._. I got a map,"
You understand that they were not made to defeat the coverenment. And i love the way you worded that, it proves my point perfectly. You said "do something with them" effectively making them into a possession, not a person. "Which one of us is the robot?"
THANK YOU! IT'S ABOUT TIME PEOPLE CALL OUT 343 FOR WHAT THEY DID WITH SPARTAN OPS! GIVE THIS GUY LIKES! On a serious note, then again, Infinity is INFESTED with Mary Sues to the point where it's illogical.
In terms of downright speed yes, but when it comes to reflex time and agility they are still evenly matched, or else the melee confrontations in the books would be more one sided. There are of course variabled on each side, like Kelly being stupidly fast even to Spartans, and Xytan 'Jar Wattinree being so skilled in combat that he never lost at anything, ever. Kindly see my next comment before responding, and please respond to that one.
Hey they gave us the Spartan-II program. That saved humanity from complete annihilation and I think you already knew who did most if not all of the heavy lifting.
R3AL PopCorn She was working under ONI and she tasked by them, they even did the funding. However, Dr. Halsey headed the project for them because she knew what was needed to be done in order to create Spartan-IIs. All ONI wanted was to find a way to stop the insurgency that was ravaging the colonies. Dr. Halsey presented a solution and ONI just took it and gave her the keys. Then when word got out that kids were kidnapped and their childhoods stolen from them in order to create Spartan-IIs and the Human-Covenant War was over, ONI needed a scapegoat and Dr. Halsey was probably the best candidate for the sh*t platter.
shropshirec I don't blame her for hating the UNSC (ONI is a part of the UNSC) but she is still a cold-hearted person at times and she can be arrogant by nature.
also if you are thinking about the part in Halo: First Strike where master chief takes on an elite warrior, it is clear that he was taken by surprise and was also fighting to keep the elite clear from the squad. so he was tied down and couldn't fight freely.
Ah, episode eight of Spartan Ops. Where 343 killed a character with great potential (Gek) off with bad storytelling. The squad coming to save him wasn't cool, it was bad storytelling, especially since it killed off a character with more personality than most of the Spartans in the series.
+RatchetandSly Thorne is a really lame spartan. The spartan 2's had inferior technology, but vastly superior skills. Put a spartan 2 in spartan 4 armor and they become your entire military force.
***** Thorne had to rescue the other doctor(forgot his name) which means he has to take into account that he is not a spartan and not as fast as Thorne
Gaverian Never really liked the idea of Elites being as strong as Spartans, let alone in their freaking MJOLNIR armor. Sangheili do not have augmentations. They shouldn't be stronger than Spartan super soldiers simply because they're bigger. I think that's stupid.
The program was completely worth it. War is never easy and neither are the choices made to ensure victory. You can't look back to say "I'm glad I did the right thing" if you lose and die. No war was ever won acting "humanely" or "righteously"; the side who had the will to what ever was necessary was the winner.
Totally agree with you, their voices are completely different too, i hope the Arbiter isn't like these Elites if he shows up again in H5 or 6. I don't quite understand why they changed them so much in the first place, i know they are a different faction of Covenant so i'm ok if they change their armor but not their personality and physical appearance too.
she's been studying the covenant and forerunner hieroglyphs since the start of the war. She's extremely proficient at reading forerunner. You'd think she'd at least know Sangheili.
I love you. Caboose: "I think that when you stab it into people, it unlocks their death." Or something along those lines can't remember off the top of my head.
You forgot about class 2 and the S2s that died during the SPARTAN-II augmentation procedures the ones who died were put in cyro in hope they could be revived, Although not much is known about class 2 or if the 30 who died were brought back.
i would love to see a soldier with the physical strength and stature of a brute, the honor and pride of an elite and the intelligence and biomechanical enhancements of a spartan. that would be the ultimate soldier.
That's because large amount of the UNSC's best (mostly ODST) become Spartan 4s with their own branch of the military. They're still exceptional war machines.
It’s been a long time since I even thought about this aspect of Halo 4…did ANY of the Spartan-IVs in this EVER wear their helmets? Like, it must be a fluke that that team showed up with them on, right? Like they forgot to take them off before the cameras started recording?
And kinda adding to this, some of them had a small choice in the matter. Jai for example was told that he could leave (because he kept escaping) but without some of his memories. He chose the life of a spartan
The super mac's from odp's actually have enough kinetic force to destroy an full shielded ship and still then upon exit it has enough force to destroy or cripple a second one.
Exactly. And most of them resulted in the Spartan's victory over luck. Hell, one of the fights, the elite only lost because he didn't see his discarded helmet and tripped over it.
I like how the Elite guy didn't get in even a few steps in a race with an old woman. And I had really wished that map the Spartan found turned out to be a grenade or something.
Sangheili are literally trained since they can stand, and their training actually kills those that fail. While the training itself may differ between the two, the Sangheili and the Spartan II's have roughly the same level of combat experience. And as the books have shown numerous times, they are roughly even in terms of physical prowess. What it really boils down to is the mentality. Spartans fight dirty and do whatever it takes to win, while Sangheili fight for glory and honor, and prefer CQC.
She also stole a UNSC ship, kidnapped Kelly-087, got Lord Hood to send a number of Spartan-II's and III's to Onyx all during the Battle of Earth so that they could survive the war. She is essentially a deserter. Parangosky also accused Halsey of not keeping her informed about the use of flash clones during the Spartan-II program. Also by abducting the Spartan children and turning them into supersoldiers she is still a War Criminal albeit one empowered by the ethically flexible ONI.
Fun fact: Admiral Ozman was one of the original spartan II candidates but failed the augmentation process. After reading the files on what Halsey did to the Spartan II children she now has a personal vendetta against Halsey which is why she gave the order to have her executed.
If you read Glasslands you will know that Osman was far more professional and implied that she was simply doing what was necessary. For the record, I am aware of the "Training? You b#tch" quote from Osman's
head, but she still kept things at a professional level and the novel even states that she wasn't exactly happy about arresting Halsey, but knew it had to be done. And why on Earth did you say "OZMAN"?
I actually think she hates halsey more because she felt thrown away after she failed the augmentation. And if you read the book, halsey seems like a very self centered person who can be a liability.
@@h3lldiv3r But she wasn't thrown away. She was taken under the head of ONI's wing and was set to be her replacement not long after her recovery.
Kilo 5 trilogy was trash
Yeah it’s really stupid, Halseys the reason she’s actually an admiral
The spartan IV's were marines and ODST's, most of them lived a good life, with a family, friends, that's why they are so social and joke around. While the II's (master chief) were kidnapped as children to become Spartans, also indoctrinated by the UNSC, they pretty much were trained to do as the UNSC pleases. That's why they are so disciplined, all they have done their entire life is serve to the UNSC, they are very different and that's why it was cool when chief didn't obey del rio.
MrXxsesshomaruxX not all Thorne was army
So basically, Spartan 2's are more machine than humans, while Spartan 4's are the other way around
@@10YearsInTheJ0int basically, sadly, but hey most the Spartans are sociable to each other
@@fighterjet1180 this is why Kurt or jorge is important.
in halo reach they replaced kurt with jorge, tall man, humble and very sociable and also close to llls and sacrificed himself for them.
@@derpynerdy6294 Kurt was the trainer for the S-III program. He didn’t really work on any of their teams. Jorge was unknown to the fan base until Halo:Reach.
He served as a nice bridge between the Halo fans’ love for the S-II lore and the newer, less intensely specialized S-III battalions.
The Spartan-III program had lower standards for entry (as did the S-IV program), required chemical injections, had no bone hardening/plating surgeries, and were trained en masse (average of 2-300 in each training wave IIRC) for large scale suicide missions. The survivors would then be sent on subsequent suicide missions until expended.
The S-II program was much more thorough and thus EXTREMELY expensive, but yielded much more efficiency in the field of battle. The successful mission percentage and kill ratio of the Spartan-II program far outweigh the hastily-trained and less-augmented S-III battalions.
Thorne put up a very good fight against that Elite, especially considering how tired he is.
When fully armoured, a Spartan is roughly equal physically to that of an Elite. However, the vast majority of the strength of Mjolnir cannot be accessed if the helmet is not being worn.
In the book 'First Strike' Chief was put into almost identical circumstances against an Elite, and was just barely able to scrape a victory, even with the full power of Mjolnir. The fact that Thorne was able to last as long as he did without the full strength of his armour is very impressive. Halsey was right when she put her trust in Thorne above the other Spartan-4s.
Thorne is closer to a spartan than the rest of his team
You'd be surprised, Grant and Madson are close seconds.
Agreed. Thorne's a genuine cool cucumber!
Gabriel Thorne is a Great Spartan 4.
The other guys aren't that bad, really don't understand why people dislike them so much. Palmer is way more insufferable imo.
I'd say Grant and Thorne
If 343 wanted enemies that were huge powerful and bulky then they should have just used the brutes again. The point of the elites is that they were large but exceptionally nimble and skilled.
@@chocolat-kun8689 well except in Halo:Reach. The elites there are simply terrifying on Legendary, and we thought Sniper Jackals were our bane.
And please, dont tell me to simply use Plasma P./DMR.
Good suggestion.
@Splint3rb3n 343 rely on the books too much. To much of the series plot happens in the books rather than the games to the point people miss critical situation.
@@djcuevas1057 Eh, when it comes to Halo 4, the books were mostly backstory. The books don't explain how Cortana comes back. If there's a critical plot point that the games leave out that are in the books, it's the Didact's torture at the hands of the flood. But that came in Silentium _after_ Halo 4 released. Halo 5 doesn't explain how Cortana came back at all, and even the domain was thought to be destroyed by the end of the forerunner books, so even people who read those were confused about how it's suddenly back. 343's writing for the games was just disorganised. Not necessarily shit, just not well-planned at all.
@@djcuevas1057 Not really, when Halo CE and 2 both required you to read the Fall of Reach trilogy beforehand, and Halo 3 requires the reading of the uprising comics. ODST is standalone, but knowledge of the Fall of Reach trilogy is also pretty damn important due to the Engineers. Halo: Reach should be obvious.
The plot of Halo 4 is complicated, but (pretty much) everything important from the books was summarised in the Halo 3 and 4 terminals. Halo 5 is the worst for the required reading, but that's mostly because fans bitched about Spartan Ops so they had to shove it all into books and comics.
"Oh great, I got the plans for the Deathstar. "
Man....we've been looking absolutely EVERYWHERE for you XD Hahahahahhaa
Did they check the local sewer?
DarkExes GBouncer It's weird they said that Spartan 4's have a locator implant.
@@ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803 I think Thorne mentioned that it was damaged together with his helmet
@@TheElviz86 The locator implant isn't part of his armor; it's a cybernetic implant given to all spartan 4 as part of their augmentations.
3:25 "You guys are getting all the cool stuff!"
Says the guy with the arguably coolest armour since Master Chief!
MC was mentioned in episode 4, but he wasn't looking for Librarian. They were talking about when he encountered the Librarian in mission ... 5 I think? The Infinity escaped Requiem later in the campaign then comes back to blow a hole in the Didacts ship in Midnight. This takes place 6 months after the final mission of the campaign.
Knowledge is power. The power to make other people feel stupid. XD
I am going to use that.
And I get a map...oh joy...
Hey, when they get lost whose laughing then?
Ah, Madsen, always the jackass.
After having read the Rion Forge trilogy.... those dog tags they picked off of Gek really hit home.
if only this fight coreography was used in halo 5 when chief fights locke.
The Thorne Gek fight is superb, but, believe it or not I actually liked the Halo 5 fight too.
Gregg Everman same, fam
@@greggeverman5578 no, that fight is sh1t. the point of elite is fast, deadly and nimble even though they're large. Gek moved as fast as a snail and had a tons of excessive movements. 343 really like brute, they turned everthings to brute now.
@@greggeverman5578 well that fight looked more like a brawl, like a fight of brothers, if you see it that way i can like it too, like a real fight to death would have gone really differently and i understand why people complained about it, they just misunderstood the purpose of the fight
For those who don't know: Osman was a Spartan II, that was discharged from the program because she was one of the many that had something go wrong during augmentation. Parongsky took her under her wing as a protege, and hopefully a successor. Shes a spook with all the strengths of a Spartan, why exactly she was removed from training, I do not remember. She nowruns the Navy as Bravo Six, aka the boss
Master Chief is on Earth taking a long shower. Eight years of funk still remains after six month.
I agree with that. Samuel was a hell of a fighter/spartan. People fail to realize that John was just the most rounded off spartan at everything. Not the best but really good at every aspect of being a soldier...others were much better than he was in certain capacities. Such as Kelly with her speed and Sam with his pure physical strength.
Name one Spartan who had the imagination to deliver a Covenant bomb onto a super-cruiser by falling toward a planet.
Osman is just more proof of how 343I is trying to incorporate the Halo fiction into the games, good job guys!
I couldn't help laughing to majestic's reaction on finding thorne XD
MAN we've been looking EVERYWHERE for you =P
1:43 "in my times we had 2 sticks and a rock to the all platoon, and we had to share the rock"
Thorne listened to his history
Nice to finally see Serin Osman, been wondering where the hell was the ONI chief during all this. I just wish to see more characters from previous games and books.
I love how they're all just standing a few yards away lined up for a picture before they bother to save him at the last second.
I like how the ship AI is dressed ironically in an old fighter pilot outfit.
Chief in Fall of Reach was struggling and evenly matched by a Sangheili Minor, and they were both completely alone.
Physically both are evenly matched. Martially, sangheili have specific martial arts that they are taught as well, but are normally reserved for aristocrats and high ranking sangheili, which we have very few examples of in the books.
It all boils down to mentality. A Spartan II will do whatever it takes to win. They fight purely for efficiency. Sangheili fight for honor and glory.
The Sangheili in Halo 4 are a separate faction from those that assisted humanity in Halo 3. Jul Mdama is even one of The Arbiters rivals back on their home planet after the 2 had a major argument on whether or not they should continue their onslaught against humanity. i can't remember which book i read that in, but you can find it in the Halo Wiki if you're curious enough. i hope that helped.
oh snap, the books are tying in the games! Osman looks kinda evil though... I can't wait to see how this plays out. Halsey, Jul Mdama, and the Storm Elites, vs. Arbiter, the Heretics, and Lord Hood's side of the UNSC, vs. ONI and that Parangosky's side of the UNSC, vs. The Human Rebels, vs. Didact and his Prometheans. Some of the conflicts will be subtle, but they will all definitely be important.
So what did you all get on your journey? "I GOT A SWORD!" "I GOT INVISIBILITY!" "I got map...".
a map is a powerful weapon tho. strategically speaking.
Good, that map can provide some fantastic information. We must take it to Captain Lasky.
4:20 Like that will help you at all
Right. Needless conflict.
I laughed so hard when Thorne got hit by the rock, I feel bad now :(
She only trained one batch of Spartan IIs, the only batch of SIIs. The Spartan IIIs were suggested by Colonel Ackerson and then authorized by Admiral Parangosky. There were three batches of SIIIs trained and if it weren't for the battle of Onyx there would have been four.
Admiral Osman hates Halsey but can't deny that if she wasn't kidnapped to be apart of the Spartan II program her life would be either awful or she'd be dead from the Human-Covenant war
Sangheili do not need augmentative armor. They are already naturally that strong and fast, while a spartan is reliant on their armor. A spartan without Mjolnir would find themselves substantially weaker and slower than a sangheili.
It all boils down to the mentality. Sangheili want to fight for honor and glory. Spartans fight for efficiency. It's hard to engage someone to honorable melee combat when they shoo outt your kneecaps the moment they spot you. THAT is why spartans usually win.
Tak 'Vakamai their combat harnesses actually do enhance their strength
@@theAverageJoe25 that's correct
I understand that’s their culture and part of the lore, but stealth kills feel kinda cheap to me. Where is there honor in killing someone who can’t see you? If you get stealth, I get your knee caps buddy
Elites are awesome!
oooh men! i love this series, i thought they werent going to be as good as the live series but damn i was wrong.
I dunno why, but Madsen cracks me up alot...especially when he was like,"Man, we've been looking EVERYWHERE for you," and also when he was like ,"oh great ._. I got a map,"
one guy gets a sword the other gets an active camo and the last one gets a map, love that scene
probably out of the spartan 4's Thorn is my favorite.
I cant imagine the amount of work they put in to make these look so great.
"Man we've been looking absolutely everywhere for you"
(My response)
How long we're you guys taking to get set up like that?
"Oh great, I got a map"
You understand that they were not made to defeat the coverenment. And i love the way you worded that, it proves my point perfectly. You said "do something with them" effectively making them into a possession, not a person. "Which one of us is the robot?"
The way those three Spartan 2's handled those Elites was a thing of beauty, btw. Just saying. Teamwork and badassery at its finest.
Gek: the tanned elite
Some how I've grown attached to Halsey, she such a great character.
i can already tell he wont follow the orders to kill Halsey. She was the "mother" of the person who saved Lasky's life back in the academy.
THANK YOU! IT'S ABOUT TIME PEOPLE CALL OUT 343 FOR WHAT THEY DID WITH SPARTAN OPS! GIVE THIS GUY LIKES!
On a serious note, then again, Infinity is INFESTED with Mary Sues to the point where it's illogical.
I have bro...It was AMAZING!
That's what I was expecting from any spartan fight.
I momentarily forgot that, THAT was how spartan IIs fight
All these wanna be spartans. I miss my Spartan II's. OH wait, Master Chief's still around
Say what you want about Halsey but she's got balls that's for sure
Hol up
Buck wants to know your location
In terms of downright speed yes, but when it comes to reflex time and agility they are still evenly matched, or else the melee confrontations in the books would be more one sided. There are of course variabled on each side, like Kelly being stupidly fast even to Spartans, and Xytan 'Jar Wattinree being so skilled in combat that he never lost at anything, ever.
Kindly see my next comment before responding, and please respond to that one.
At least Glassman wasn’t a total wuss scientist trope. He at least tried to help even if he got fucked up for it
You're so lucky that 'Mdama's zealots were more concerned about damaging the artifact with plasmafire than trying to shoot you lol
I was rooting for the elite xD
Of course, nothing good ever comes from ONI.
Hey they gave us the Spartan-II program. That saved humanity from complete annihilation and I think you already knew who did most if not all of the heavy lifting.
TRENEX 379 Erm, Catherine Alsey did the Spartan-II program not ONI. Why do you think she is in jail for kidnapping kids
R3AL PopCorn
She was working under ONI and she tasked by them, they even did the funding. However, Dr. Halsey headed the project for them because she knew what was needed to be done in order to create Spartan-IIs. All ONI wanted was to find a way to stop the insurgency that was ravaging the colonies. Dr. Halsey presented a solution and ONI just took it and gave her the keys. Then when word got out that kids were kidnapped and their childhoods stolen from them in order to create Spartan-IIs and the Human-Covenant War was over, ONI needed a scapegoat and Dr. Halsey was probably the best candidate for the sh*t platter.
TRENEX 379 And look where pointing the finger got them. Now Halsey as one arm and she hates ONI with a passion of 100%.
shropshirec
I don't blame her for hating the UNSC (ONI is a part of the UNSC) but she is still a cold-hearted person at times and she can be arrogant by nature.
This is how I expected Emile to fight in Halo Reach, instead we got a huge let down.
Well done 343!
also if you are thinking about the part in Halo: First Strike where master chief takes on an elite warrior, it is clear that he was taken by surprise and was also fighting to keep the elite clear from the squad. so he was tied down and couldn't fight freely.
Hug, Gek? For being my 2nd favorite character of all time?
And besides, its Valentines Day! Cmon, embrace love!
this series is AMAZING!!!!! i fan infinity+(see what I did there)
Ah, episode eight of Spartan Ops. Where 343 killed a character with great potential (Gek) off with bad storytelling. The squad coming to save him wasn't cool, it was bad storytelling, especially since it killed off a character with more personality than most of the Spartans in the series.
Vay Hek waaaaaaggggghhhhhh stop complaining
How was Gek able to go toe-to-toe with Thorne? Aren't Spartans physically superior to Elite's?
He had an human with him that was not a spartan so Gek was able to go toe-on-toe
MuscledRMH Uhh, Thorne *is* a Spartan. Perhaps i'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
+RatchetandSly Thorne is a really lame spartan. The spartan 2's had inferior technology, but vastly superior skills. Put a spartan 2 in spartan 4 armor and they become your entire military force.
***** Thorne had to rescue the other doctor(forgot his name) which means he has to take into account that he is not a spartan and not as fast as Thorne
Gaverian Never really liked the idea of Elites being as strong as Spartans, let alone in their freaking MJOLNIR armor. Sangheili do not have augmentations. They shouldn't be stronger than Spartan super soldiers simply because they're bigger. I think that's stupid.
The program was completely worth it. War is never easy and neither are the choices made to ensure victory. You can't look back to say "I'm glad I did the right thing" if you lose and die. No war was ever won acting "humanely" or "righteously"; the side who had the will to what ever was necessary was the winner.
Totally agree with you, their voices are completely different too, i hope the Arbiter isn't like these Elites if he shows up again in H5 or 6. I don't quite understand why they changed them so much in the first place, i know they are a different faction of Covenant so i'm ok if they change their armor but not their personality and physical appearance too.
Wait to go Halsey!!!!!
so weird seeing osman in a game after reading glasslands
5:05 jul: Finally i can speak with the librarian!
Halsey: LOL NOPE!
I really like how we got to see Osman in this. I wasn't expecting that.
"NO! I must be the one. That is why I'm standing still and letting you get all of the powers!"
"your bending history for your own favor and you know it"
2:17 Man we were looking absolutely everywhere for you lol
she's been studying the covenant and forerunner hieroglyphs since the start of the war. She's extremely proficient at reading forerunner. You'd think she'd at least know Sangheili.
Oh I see, thanks for explaining. Hope to see some reference or something of the chief in spartan ops, but I guess we'll have to wait for Halo 5.
I love you. Caboose: "I think that when you stab it into people, it unlocks their death." Or something along those lines can't remember off the top of my head.
3:35 would've been funny if that was a plasma grenade.
I like that Dr. Halsey, she is one of the few who knows what to do to retain the mantle of responsibility for humanity.
wow these episodes are awesome,gotta love 343
You forgot about class 2 and the S2s that died during the SPARTAN-II augmentation procedures the ones who died were put in cyro in hope they could be revived, Although not much is known about class 2 or if the 30 who died were brought back.
3:55 Holy shit, is that the same Actress who plays Admiral Cain on Battlestar Galactica?
It's CG
Dan DCC91 The voice, I know it's CG.
Michael Moen Well you did say "is THAT," not "is that voice."
There are plenty of regular Marines still in service in the UNSC. Remember the resources for the armour etc. needed for the Spartans.
i would love to see a soldier with the physical strength and stature of a brute, the honor and pride of an elite and the intelligence and biomechanical enhancements of a spartan. that would be the ultimate soldier.
Heh heh. You raise a good point. A guy with as many enemies as Thel can't keep old foes on the list. There wouldn't be any room left to write
Thank you for correcting my grammar, I just said it to make it more personal and have more impact.
I was kinda expecting Glassman to kill Gek with the Storm Rifle. The irony. At least he still reached for the sword.
About damn time they brought osman into the picture...
You could have made spartan Ops live action and it would have been dope.
Still waiting on a live action Odst TV show.
That's because large amount of the UNSC's best (mostly ODST) become Spartan 4s with their own branch of the military. They're still exceptional war machines.
It’s been a long time since I even thought about this aspect of Halo 4…did ANY of the Spartan-IVs in this EVER wear their helmets?
Like, it must be a fluke that that team showed up with them on, right? Like they forgot to take them off before the cameras started recording?
He's referring to a cut scene at the end of Halo: Reach. Eulogy- A laudatory speech or written tribute, especially one praising someone who has died.
nice to see spartan IVs aren't weaker than the previous ones :)
And kinda adding to this, some of them had a small choice in the matter. Jai for example was told that he could leave (because he kept escaping) but without some of his memories. He chose the life of a spartan
Ha! At least someone still remembers me. But just one correction, Guilty Spark is not dead, it is now in a UNSC ship heading for the librarian.
*hugs* You are my second favorite character of ALL time :)
The super mac's from odp's actually have enough kinetic force to destroy an full shielded ship and still then upon exit it has enough force to destroy or cripple a second one.
Exactly. And most of them resulted in the Spartan's victory over luck. Hell, one of the fights, the elite only lost because he didn't see his discarded helmet and tripped over it.
The title says it all: every elite is expendable; they are very strong, but only to be slaughtered by Spartans
Idk why but jul mdam makes me laugh even through out the whole series
Yet the Spartan IVs treat these like some new toys they've never seem before...
I like how the Elite guy didn't get in even a few steps in a race with an old woman.
And I had really wished that map the Spartan found turned out to be a grenade or something.
Lol why? So they can all get blown up, or because you just wanted it to be something useful?
AdjutantReflex yes it would be funny to watch unbeatable warriors panic.
Sangheili are literally trained since they can stand, and their training actually kills those that fail. While the training itself may differ between the two, the Sangheili and the Spartan II's have roughly the same level of combat experience. And as the books have shown numerous times, they are roughly even in terms of physical prowess.
What it really boils down to is the mentality. Spartans fight dirty and do whatever it takes to win, while Sangheili fight for glory and honor, and prefer CQC.
The active camo sound at 3:18... memories from Halo 3.
1:51 Man, he's rockin' that look !
She also stole a UNSC ship, kidnapped Kelly-087, got Lord Hood to send a number of Spartan-II's and III's to Onyx all during the Battle of Earth so that they could survive the war. She is essentially a deserter. Parangosky also accused Halsey of not keeping her informed about the use of flash clones during the Spartan-II program. Also by abducting the Spartan children and turning them into supersoldiers she is still a War Criminal albeit one empowered by the ethically flexible ONI.
holly hell these videos should have 1 billion views each! whats wrong with this planet, this series is HOT!