@@sashautrera6935 Not all ODSTs became Spartans, they still had their role. It's just that where ODSTs were some of the best non-Spartan service members, many of them became Spartans.
“Son I was killin alien bastards before you were born! And you are telllin me you can’t do a single push up? Get your ass over to the track and start runnin till your heart stops!”
I will die on this hill: HALO Forward Unto Dawn was onto something with the cadet’s perspective of the covenant and I personally think paramount really screwed up with their excuse of an attempt of a tv show. The boots on the ground perspective of a marine company or an odst recruit going through bootcamp and into war either right before or during the human covenant war would be so good. Like think band of brothers or the pacific but halo. To see the ODST perspective on the spartans only seeing the Spartans IIs in rumor and speculation would be interesting. Having the characters talk about John 117’s “test” in the weight room as a rumor spreading around the ODSTs. Showing the real grit of the war as an un-augmented human. Being loyal to the books.
Yeah I would love more stories and lore on non-spartan personnel. Games, films, or other fiction about the army, navy, marine and ODST would be great. Though Spartans were originally created to quell insurgencies, I think a spartan vs insurgents game would be overkill, perhaps ODSTs would better fill the role in such a thing
@@dogevanzandt2889 they are soldiers of the Marines Corps. Really they're just navy if you want to get technical. I think it's hilarious how butthurt Marines get over this shit😂😂😂 Did you serve?
@@chipsdubbo5.56I mean it ain’t that deep. I don’t prefer to be called a “soldier” but I’m not gonna flip shit when sumone does. U got a point as well, they sumtimes call us “soldiers of the sea” But he’s also right as marines aren’t soldiers and neither r sailors. Marine infantry (me) and army infantry have way different sops and tactics. Sum r the same but most r different
Going over the risks after you become an ODST: “You could die a horrible death, or you could die a horrible death. And even if you make it through the first mission, you’re gonna do it all again tomorrow! Feet first trooper!” 😂
Theres no surprise that a lot of ODSTs were offered to be upgraded to Spartan IV's. They have the experience and the tenacity that the Spartans have drilled into them
@@nicholasscott5905 Yeah but you know Halsey doesn't even consider Spartan IV's to be "Spartans" because of that very Humanity. She likes to break her toys, apparently.
From my perspective of being 5 years active duty in the army, I want everyone to understand that the military details established in Halo lore are very great.
One thing which I find somewhat unrealistic is the shame associated with not making it past the training or tryout phases. I am in an infantry unit and some of my colleagues have tried out for special operations units, and they failed. They weren't judged badly when they came back to us. That said, this is one unit in one military, so there probably is some truth to the shame angle, as unconstructive as it can be for unit cohesion.
@@arthurdumontiv1989in the video the speaker specifically stated it was a negative REPUTATION, meaning it's not a personal thing but is a sentiment that is shared within a community. Also I agree with OP because just the act of trying out garners respect because it's an acceptance of challenge and even more so the longer you last.
I’ve seen this happen with Recon Marines being dropped from the course and transferred over to other MOS. Higher ups either like them for their motivation or dislike them for their infantry/recon culture such as faded uniform or longer hair than regulations. There are many things in the Halo universe that don’t quite fit in with modern day military specially since Halo’s military is based upon that of the US, but I’d assume those changes are explained by the simple fact that it is the 26th century, so probably UNSC propaganda “brainwashed” troops into believing that failing ODST course is something to be ashamed of?
It's only the guys who use it to brag that become a problem. I knew a couple Marine Recon washouts and most of them were all high & mighty because they went to Recon school, like bro you didn't pass & you're still Motor-T what are you talking about? I've also met a grunt Recon washout who was really humble. Dude snapped his leg or something and was like "yeah Recon is tough. I tried and failed. Those guys are something else man" He didn't brag about it or use it for clout.
I imagine that in addition to standard ODST training, ODSTs also go through other training programs such as Air Assault Training, Airborne Training, Ranger School, Sapper School, Basic Reconnaissance Course, and SERE Training.
It’s stated that they have to be airborne certifies before even stepping foot in a drop pod. I don’t remember the book that it’s from, but I know I read it somewhere
They all supposed to be the best of the best among unaugmented human troops in the UNSC. That means most of them have prior Spec-Ops backgrounds before they are transferred into the ODSTs
@@worldwanderer91 if you say this, you obviously haven’t watched the video. It’s specifically stated that in order to become an ODST, must already be serving in spec ops & you have to be invited
Not exactly. In conventional forces, the reconnaissance course for the Army is either ARC (Army Reconnaissance Course) or much more relevant is RSLC (Recon/Surveillance Leaders Course). I know this because I was Army reconnaissance. RSLC is for conventional forces that need some of the best skills. The BRC is the USMC’s qualifying recon school for a recon platoon, awarding the MOS 0321- Reconnaissance Marine. It is hard, and focuses heavily on amphibious/hydrographic reconnaissance and swimming. It is loosely considered a qualification and selection course. More likely, though, is ODST’s would go to special operations schools for qualifying skills like actual special operations do now. These include SFSC (Special Forces Sniper Course), SFAUC (Special Forces Advanced Urban Combat), and SFARTAETC (Special Forces Advanced Targeting Reconnaissance/Target Analysis Exploitation Techniques). My feel from being a Halo fan and playing the games is that even though they are shown as special operations, ODST’s are kinda more like really elite conventional infantry with a special insertion technique.
ODST's had a special place in my heart before even H3:ODST. I only got into Halo during the prime of H3 socials but ODST solidified my love for their battle-hardened-ness and all around bad-assery. :D
MOS is typically said by saying each letter M. O. S. I've never heard anyone say "moss" when referring to someone's MOS. I was under the impression MOS is also fairly unique to the Marine Corps but maybe not. Other branches use different identifiers for job codes.
MOS acronym is universal for the US branches of service, not exclusively for the marine corps. Their MOS numbers may differ but everyone refers to their occupation code as a MOS
US Marine here, fun fact. High level SF units often have a similar recruitment process as seen with the ODSTs. For example, groups like the navy seals, MARSOC, and scout snipers have requirements of already being enlisted in a combat MOS, or just outright Infantry only. Personally I wasn't SF or anything, but i did take plenty of specialized courses such as fast rope and the designated marksmans course where there would be all sorts of operators getting certifications their command wanted them to have. I was honestly surprised when meeting and talking with them that many didn't even start in the branch that they were now such a high level in. USMC snipers, MARSOC, Army Rangers, and even the Seals recruit from all over the different branches.
I think they're more akin to Delta especially with their anti-insurgency/hostage extraction component, with E-5 being a REQUIREMENT to even be glanced at by Delta training cadre. Factor in that they probably go through some of the most ridiculous training devised and also whatever fresh level of hell that the UNSCDF came up with for orbital assault school to be able to operate in space and to utilize a drop pod, and they are on the level of voodoo that frankly we just have probably never had anyone that's a real human being go through before that's been devised by any reasonably sane training command by any modern military.
In light of pretty much all of us not going to be Spartans, ODSTs are the best bet for us in the UNSC. I'd certainly love to be an ODST. Feet First Into Hell!
ODSTs are the most badass unit in the unsc, far more than spartans. They both do about the same thing, but one has energy shielding and an enhanced body, the other just has a bit more armor than the average infantryman, and a few screws loose.
I would agree to an extent but Spartans are still more badass. They been training since they were small children and their whole life has been military discipline. ODSTs didn’t start training until adulthood. ODSTs get mad respect but Spartans still go through way worse and for way longer too.
In my opinion it’s even more impressive to have made it as an ODST than it is to be a Spartan II or III. You’re held up to insane standards with zero augmentations, no AI assistance, no highly advanced space armor with a nuclear battery and energy shields. You’re just a human with immense endurance, willpower and tenacity.
@@TheSillyFluff yeah a lot of the spartan programs were just a luck of the draw type deal, but ODSTs only get to their positions through sheer tenacity and willpower
ODSTs are Marine SOF, more than likely the evolution of modern day Marine Special Operations Command (MARSOC) colloquially known as Marine Raiders. There are even ODST units under command structure of Force Recon.
Maybe so but MARSOC operates in small teams and ODSTs operate more like the Ranger Reg. with company and battalion level airborne drops taking key objectives behind enemy lines and holding till the main force gets to them
@@dogevanzandt2889 They operate like small SOF teams. They do not engage in combat at the company + level. If they are discovered and engaged in mass they leave
The UNSC could also make a 5 seater variant of the drop pod (maybe call it the ODST FireTeam Pod) could even be large enough for a small vehicle. And or even a small turret that can help the OSSTs clear the immediate LZ by turning the pod itself into a temporary defensive position. Pretty much just a larger pod for larger payloads. I’m pretty much just adapting a design from WH 40k and tweaking it to work in halo (with UNSC technology)
Don’t get me wrong. I prefer Halo over 40k But I love both universes, as well as Star Wars. (Which I think Star Wars could easily get away with making their own version of orbital insertion pods with a higher survivability rate and wider mission potential than the ODSTs have. Heck, they already have the pods in the form of escape pods. Why not fill them with elite Clone Troopers, sensor decoys, jammers, and drop into an enemy base!
i think the whole reason why that wasnt the design was because if a fireteam pod got hit with anti air, five odsts are dead, if its just a regular pod, only one is dead. Really says something about their life expectance
@@The-Autistic-StrategistStar Wars has a drop pod, thought it’s only ever used once. In the NJO series, Luke’s Jedi strike team uses drop pods disguised as falling debris to insert onto occupied Coruscant
@@randomradon I was thinking a slightly different mission profile. Send in the normal solo pods to hit the AA and open a window for the larger pods (which have more hardware for survivability and more robust retro thrusters) Than the larger pods can act as makeshift battlements featuring optional friendly AA, AT, and Anti infantry weapons, providing cover safety for Pelicans to use as a beachhead. This is one example of a plausible mission profile. They could also be modular, and deploy special prefab structures. (Again larger payloads. Quick deployment) Need a firing position with a good overlook, drop a (unoccupied in flight) Pill box on that hill over there. (Don’t need as much retrograde for that, as you would want the pill box to partly bury itself) Rapid Vehicle deployment. Empty battlements for troops already planet-side Manned battlements for enemy front lines that have undermanned AA defenses. Again not the same mission profile. But can aid and augment existing mission profiles amid operations.
The prerequisites for someone to even APPLY for ODSTs raises the question - in Fireteam Raven, we see Ramos was only 20 years old - how the heck did he enlist, end up in a SpecOps unit, apply for training, undergo the training, AND get assigned to a unit all in less than 2 years?
Just like WWII, training and being thrown into the fire of war was done at an ever increasingly corners cut approach with the vets providing battlefield OTJ advice and tips whilst fighting on a live battlefield. Also, the ODSTs were like the old school special ops outfits in that you HAD to be a vet of ground ops with experience of several firefights and a tour or 2 under your belt. "Not exactly a rookie, no ODST is." ODST's were combat veterans with probably a corporal's level of combat expericence, thus the rookie probably was possibly higher rank prior to being deranked back to PFC in ODST Training. ODST's were being burned through in the ever increasingly harsh fighting especially from 2545 to the end of the war when things really ESCALATED. Some like Alpha-9(our favorite boys from Halo 3 ODST) WERE prior regular marines that did transition to the ODST's in a more normal fashion. But the 2549-2552 cadre of the last batch of ODST's like the majority of those we see in the Trilogy? Probably like in the time period of Operation Market Garden to April '45: Fast tracked and hoped that veteran troopers in the cadres of the jump units would make up for the deficient training of being fast tracked and the prereq's being dumped in favor of fielding units as fast as possible. Thus you get troopers like Ramos who probably would've been denied a billet at any point prior to the period of ~2549 of being a trooper and told to get more experience as a regular grunt before being considered.
ODST’S and paratroopers are that if a different breed. ODST’S pods can fail, Paratroopers can have bad chutes. Both groups have a certain status depending on jumps or drops and both are meant to drop in behind enemy lines and cause damage.
Have you read 'The Life' fanfic by Casquis? It's a phenomenal read about an ODDTs journey from training through the end of the war. Personally, it's my head cannon for how the ODSTs are
Being a Spartan 2 isn’t as fun as it seems. They’re all pale with erectile dysfunction and severe psychological damage, most have major issues socializing, and have the personality of machines.(most of them not all) Be an odst, or a Spartan 4 and create your own head cannon that your Spartan 4 is the best out of all 4’s lol
You wanna be kidnapped from your family at 6 and put through a rigorous training capable of killing you before being put through a biological augmentation when you’re 14 that has a 67% chance of killing you? You do you but I wouldn’t recommend it
I always imagined how cool it would be if they had Matchmaking game options like Team Slayer, BTB, Objective games in ODST. The game would've been FAR more popular.
I wish we got to see more of the different specialist units with the ODSTs, we got to see the Air Assault "Bullfrogs" during Halo Reach, but since then we haven't really seen anything else since. It'd be nice to see units that specialize in EVA combat, covert missions utilizing sub-prowlers to infil/exfil, or even undercover work. I'd especially like to see it used against the Insurrection to see how they try to respond to direct attacks, what kind of improvised weapons and tactics they use to try and gain the upper hand.
In the book Halo: Silent Storm, we get to meet the Black Daggers, which are Space Assault ODST. I don’t think that the ODST would have an undercover team since ONI would have better people for that. ODSTs are door kickers not spies
Everyody says they want to be an ODST... but honestly, the place you really want to be is a HQ storeman or clerk. Or best of all, air force HQ storeman or clerk. Source: 2 years military conscription.
What installation00 is saying put in simpler terms is : to become an ODST, one must have balls of titanium steel…. No even that of Vibranium” this video strikes home.
Delta Force selection, 3-4 weeks weighted solo navigation and ruck marches in the hills, SAS selection 5 weeks of navigation and solo ruck marches in the hills, SASR, constant ruck marches and navigation in the hills, KSK, navigation in the hills 3-4 weeks, 1er RPma, hill navigation, Belgium SF, JTF2, NZSAS etc. etc. you see a pattern emerging here? They aren't long and over complicated strength training and beasting sessions with instructors constantly shouting at them telling them to work harder and overwhelming them, nope, they're challenging because they are testing them on a much more psychological aspect. They're never given feedback, never told if they're doing wrong or right, never once verbally assessed, just given silent judgment and observed when doing these seemingly long, ardous, weighted and self navigated marches across pathetic terrain in pathetic weather with no one around, and see if u can wake up everyday and keep doing that again and again and again and again, with no end in sight, sleep getting shorter, weights getting heavier, distances getting longer and timings becoming worse and worse. They simply want to see, when the chips are down, when there's no hope left, with no orders, no feedback, no one to tell u to keep pushing, no one to berate u, no one around to help u up, and the objective still miles away, do u keep on pushing? Or do u give up? They want to know what kind of man you truly r, and if u r the right fit for the unit.
the covenant call spartans "demons" because the 3 prophets denounced humans because if the covenant found out humans were the real reclaimers, their religion would crumble
You forgot to mention the biggest combat hazard of all: When a Scarab is about to wreck the groundside base and the MAC is still charging so the commander uses your squad as an impromptu orbital strike.
Looking up on ODSTs before this, I read that while majority are from the UNSC Marine Corps there are those who are Army, Navy, and Air Force in their ranks as well. Meaning it's rare for someone to be an ODST who weren't a Marine. Also be pretty dupe if ODSTs were given MK-III SPI armor that increases the wearer's physical attributes and had energy shielding.
As a veteran: the training clothing that stiffens up after being hit by Sim rounds is a pretty good idea. Not going to lie, getting shot by sim rounds hurts like heck. My security forces squadron used them for active shooter training. Kind of fun, though.
It’s the same reason we still have airborne, they create dilemmas for the enemy. The enemy can either spread themselves out more thinly by putting limited resources into finding the ODSTs which would make it so that the regular forces have to deal with less, or they can choose to not counter the ODSTs & have to suffer the consequences of having enemy forces attacking their supply lines & other assets.
I get what a lot of you are saying with them being apart of the UNSC Marine Corps but tactically in this universe they play more of an Airborne Ranger roll with how they are deployed and the objectives they are given
The UNSC Army already maintains its own Ranger forces who only act as long-range scouts, counter-insurgent specialists, and foreign internal defense on colony worlds, usually more focused on human affairs like pirates and criminals. ODSTs are traditionally rapid reaction forces or as you guessed it, shock troopers, deploying from orbit either to clear a landing zone for the Marines, reinforce them, or to "shock" their enemy. Both are special operations units, except their doctrines and missions are just... different. But yeah, I can see the similarities.
@@nepnepguythegreatestofall Whole heartedly agree. My stance this whole time has been the ODSTs are all of what you said but compared to all of the armed forces in real life they match the rangers the most in how they are deployed tactically on the battlefield
All of this about the risk really just makes Halo 3 ODST's campaign an even more endearing and badass underdog story. All of the characters act like assholes, but you know it's just because they're losing the war, they're all replacements, and they're about to drop from orbit into a Covenant-controlled city that they can only get out of by shooting their way out with their own guns. The only way they cope with it is with a "don't give a shit" attitude, but despite the bellyaching, after surviving insurmountable odds and devastating injury and stealing a phantom just to survive, they still turn it around and go right back into hell when ordered to. It's such a brief moment but it is really the thing that turns them from a bunch of assholes into a group of heroes. Imagine barely surviving the most un-survivable event of your entire life and then having to turn around and go back into it.
Y'know, this adds more context as to why ODST's tend to hate Spartans so much. ODST's go through all that shit to become some of the best soldiers in the UNSC, while Spartans just get a fucking surgery and some fancy expensive armour and suddenly get all the glory.
That's what warfare evolution is. Go back 500ish years for example, knights had to train since they were kids learning how to ride horses, clean & maintain their armour & use swords, maces & shields etc. All that changed overnight when firearms were introduced; soldiers been training for weeks on how to use a musket. Spartans are natural evolution of all that. It'll get to the point where you can just download a "war print" to your brain on everything warfare related from tactics & asset use accumulated from thousands of years of warfare history.
…I mean Spartan IIs were raised from childhood, and put through an incredibly risky augmentation surgery at the age of 14 where 70% of them died. The IIIs were used as child soldiers. And the IVs…i mean, some are former ODSTs
@ Instillation 00 .. I got a video ideal for you . What does it take to become a Hellbringer in the UNSC. And where do they recruit people crazy enough to use flamethrowers against enemies firing plasma at them? Because that doesn't sound like a job people normally would volunteer for. But people have volunteer for crazier jobs . So it's an interesting question
Have you read 'The Life' fanfic by Casquis? It's a phenomenal read about an ODDTs journey from training through the end of the war. Personally, it's my head cannon for how the ODSTs are.
I would imagine that ODST training is like the US Army RASP program with a bit of Robin Sage from Green Beret training and selection. Since they have to do more than shock tactics, they also do long range recon as well so they have to go through SERE.
Considering my past, and how hard it was (not getting into details on a halo lore video), and the fact that people always say I’m resilient and my family says I’d do good in the military, i would be willing to be an ODST, it’s worth it i would think, to be an elite soldier. ODST show that you don’t have to be a Spartan to be resilient or resourceful, or cool
I wish we had another ODST game. Hell, I’d pay for a 3rd person ODST game in a somewhat open world Halo universe. Like, Halo 3: ODST on all the drugs and steroids
Hell yes. I would give a kidney for an ODST themed ghost recon Wildlands style game. Fighting innies on one front and then working with them against the covenant on another. Using stealth one minute but then going loud and dropping from orbit to tear shit up the next. It’s such a shame that halo went woke 😢
I thought honestly the Covenant would call the ODST something like "the fallen angels" are some shit like that you know them coming from orbit and all, and marines would be the imps because there would we so many of them and there one of the lowest of compared to the ODSTs and Spartans but thats just me tho lol let me know what yall think.
I wonder wig takes to be a pilot in the Halo Universe. I’ve always wanted to pilot the following Halo Vehicles. 1. Pelican 2. Sabre 3. Falcon 4. Wasp 5. Cyclops 6. Colossus 7. Mantis 8. Spirit 9. Banshee 10. Vampire 11. Seraph 12. Phaeton
I imagine most ODSTs have an EOD mentality about the drop-pod issues. “Eh, if it happens, it happens.” Like there’s only one really bad day for an ODST.
So these guys are mobile infantry without the armor. This training is almost verbatim out of starship troopers minus the special forces member requirement, up to and including the lead from the front and all officers are veterans of drops stuff. For those who have not read it I am referring to the book and not the movies.
Less than twenty seconds in you mention the ODST's "Iconic means of entering the battlefield", except you paused after the word "means" for a second. My brain registered that as "Iconic memes"
I've always seen them as similar to US Army Rangers, their mission statement is almost the same. A premier direct action/shock unit, that can secure landing zones, do small unit tactics behind enemy lines, etc. And the 105th would be kinda like the Ranger RRC, Delta or the SAS, basically tier 1.
the sheer talents and badassery it takes to be an ODST simply in lore is why I would ove that to be real I love the military respect it immensely but can you imagine taking it to the next step
From the extended trailer for Halo ODST it looks like you can enter the ODST training pipeline after boot camp and going through an indoc course. This is much like the US Navy SEALS, and US Army Special Forces (ie Whisky X-Ray program) get new people. Mind you this doesn’t mean there are elite ODST units on par with Delta Force (whatever it’s called now), or DEVGRU.
It would be really nice to have a further fleshing out of ODSTs nowadays with the amount of open source modern day SOF information available Either that, or detailing other SOF type units in the halo universe, even as far back as the insurrection days
They’re actually more of a close equivalent of the US Army’s 82’d Airborne. Their job is to be deployed within 18 hours, jump into enemy territory, take airfields and set up LZ’s. Also, MOS is just pronounced M O S
The initial part of submitting a package to get accepted into the ODST candidate program sounds similar to something like the hoops we gotta jump through to join SEALs or MARSOC. That being said I'm good being a mechanic, I'll fix stuff in the field or back in garrison, but I'd rather stay on the ground.
It baffles the mind that 343 didn't even bother to create ODST models for Infinite. Such a shame...
They want us to only think of Spartans and not the normie Marines and ODST
Well they blow we all know that by now for sure.
Shame on nunber company!
343 destroyed everything by making the ODSTs into Spartan IVs.
Hell they buried Halo with one simple formula, diversity.
@@sashautrera6935 Not all ODSTs became Spartans, they still had their role. It's just that where ODSTs were some of the best non-Spartan service members, many of them became Spartans.
Determination, team work, gravity hammer proof chest all are major factors in the making of a odst
I think you mean gravity hammer resistant. There's a difference.
@@dvoremay6683 Bahahahahahahahaha exactly my thoughts.
Yeah the chieftain turned the hammer around, if he'd swung normally romeo would have been paste
@@Litterbugtaylorthat chieftain did that cause he relished in his suffering 😈
And a full can of bio foam
Imagine having a covenant war veteran ODST gym teacher
Worse than a drill sergeant lol
“Son I was killin alien bastards before you were born! And you are telllin me you can’t do a single push up? Get your ass over to the track and start runnin till your heart stops!”
@@douglaswetak9686 i would be running for such a short time 🤣🤣😅🥲
He would've been your daddy, but a dog beat him over the fence.
That would make for one hell of a role model.
I will die on this hill:
HALO Forward Unto Dawn was onto something with the cadet’s perspective of the covenant and I personally think paramount really screwed up with their excuse of an attempt of a tv show. The boots on the ground perspective of a marine company or an odst recruit going through bootcamp and into war either right before or during the human covenant war would be so good. Like think band of brothers or the pacific but halo. To see the ODST perspective on the spartans only seeing the Spartans IIs in rumor and speculation would be interesting. Having the characters talk about John 117’s “test” in the weight room as a rumor spreading around the ODSTs. Showing the real grit of the war as an un-augmented human. Being loyal to the books.
That would be so cool, we could maybe follow Buck up to when we meet him in ODST
Didn't read lol
So basically Band of Brothers but ODST?
Yeah I would love more stories and lore on non-spartan personnel. Games, films, or other fiction about the army, navy, marine and ODST would be great. Though Spartans were originally created to quell insurgencies, I think a spartan vs insurgents game would be overkill, perhaps ODSTs would better fill the role in such a thing
@@ageorge1073 that’s cool
ODST are my favorite soldiers, basically as badass as spartan but without the physical augmentations.
They aren't soldiers, they're Marines.
@@dogevanzandt2889 they are soldiers of the Marines Corps. Really they're just navy if you want to get technical. I think it's hilarious how butthurt Marines get over this shit😂😂😂 Did you serve?
@@chipsdubbo5.56 just to point out the level of your idiocy, sailors aren't soldiers either.
@dogevanzandt2889 carfleful there bud, with all this snow we've been getting you're going to get the tails of your trench coat soggy
@@chipsdubbo5.56I mean it ain’t that deep. I don’t prefer to be called a “soldier” but I’m not gonna flip shit when sumone does. U got a point as well, they sumtimes call us “soldiers of the sea” But he’s also right as marines aren’t soldiers and neither r sailors. Marine infantry (me) and army infantry have way different sops and tactics. Sum r the same but most r different
Going over the risks after you become an ODST: “You could die a horrible death, or you could die a horrible death. And even if you make it through the first mission, you’re gonna do it all again tomorrow! Feet first trooper!” 😂
Sounds awesome!!!
Yup😅
Theres no surprise that a lot of ODSTs were offered to be upgraded to Spartan IV's. They have the experience and the tenacity that the Spartans have drilled into them
Plus xp of being actually, you know, human
@@nicholasscott5905 Yeah but you know Halsey doesn't even consider Spartan IV's to be "Spartans" because of that very Humanity. She likes to break her toys, apparently.
From my perspective of being 5 years active duty in the army, I want everyone to understand that the military details established in Halo lore are very great.
And then the woke brigade at 343 took over and it went a bit funny from there.
Make halo a militaristic sci-fi again!
One thing which I find somewhat unrealistic is the shame associated with not making it past the training or tryout phases. I am in an infantry unit and some of my colleagues have tried out for special operations units, and they failed. They weren't judged badly when they came back to us. That said, this is one unit in one military, so there probably is some truth to the shame angle, as unconstructive as it can be for unit cohesion.
Probably more of a personal shame. Anyone with that drive is going to feel ashamed or disappointed if they fail.
@@arthurdumontiv1989in the video the speaker specifically stated it was a negative REPUTATION, meaning it's not a personal thing but is a sentiment that is shared within a community. Also I agree with OP because just the act of trying out garners respect because it's an acceptance of challenge and even more so the longer you last.
I’ve seen this happen with Recon Marines being dropped from the course and transferred over to other MOS. Higher ups either like them for their motivation or dislike them for their infantry/recon culture such as faded uniform or longer hair than regulations. There are many things in the Halo universe that don’t quite fit in with modern day military specially since Halo’s military is based upon that of the US, but I’d assume those changes are explained by the simple fact that it is the 26th century, so probably UNSC propaganda “brainwashed” troops into believing that failing ODST course is something to be ashamed of?
@@happykiwi my bad, completely missed that part
It's only the guys who use it to brag that become a problem. I knew a couple Marine Recon washouts and most of them were all high & mighty because they went to Recon school, like bro you didn't pass & you're still Motor-T what are you talking about? I've also met a grunt Recon washout who was really humble. Dude snapped his leg or something and was like "yeah Recon is tough. I tried and failed. Those guys are something else man" He didn't brag about it or use it for clout.
I imagine that in addition to standard ODST training, ODSTs also go through other training programs such as Air Assault Training, Airborne Training, Ranger School, Sapper School, Basic Reconnaissance Course, and SERE Training.
It’s stated that they have to be airborne certifies before even stepping foot in a drop pod. I don’t remember the book that it’s from, but I know I read it somewhere
They all supposed to be the best of the best among unaugmented human troops in the UNSC. That means most of them have prior Spec-Ops backgrounds before they are transferred into the ODSTs
ODSTs are Marine SOF, they would have gone through BRC, Airborne and SERE.
@@worldwanderer91 if you say this, you obviously haven’t watched the video. It’s specifically stated that in order to become an ODST, must already be serving in spec ops & you have to be invited
Not exactly. In conventional forces, the reconnaissance course for the Army is either ARC (Army Reconnaissance Course) or much more relevant is RSLC (Recon/Surveillance Leaders Course). I know this because I was Army reconnaissance. RSLC is for conventional forces that need some of the best skills.
The BRC is the USMC’s qualifying recon school for a recon platoon, awarding the MOS 0321- Reconnaissance Marine. It is hard, and focuses heavily on amphibious/hydrographic reconnaissance and swimming. It is loosely considered a qualification and selection course.
More likely, though, is ODST’s would go to special operations schools for qualifying skills like actual special operations do now. These include SFSC (Special Forces Sniper Course), SFAUC (Special Forces Advanced Urban Combat), and SFARTAETC (Special Forces Advanced Targeting Reconnaissance/Target Analysis Exploitation Techniques).
My feel from being a Halo fan and playing the games is that even though they are shown as special operations, ODST’s are kinda more like really elite conventional infantry with a special insertion technique.
ODST's had a special place in my heart before even H3:ODST. I only got into Halo during the prime of H3 socials but ODST solidified my love for their battle-hardened-ness and all around bad-assery. :D
MOS is typically said by saying each letter M. O. S. I've never heard anyone say "moss" when referring to someone's MOS. I was under the impression MOS is also fairly unique to the Marine Corps but maybe not. Other branches use different identifiers for job codes.
Army uses MOS, as well
I was about to comment this.
MOS acronym is universal for the US branches of service, not exclusively for the marine corps. Their MOS numbers may differ but everyone refers to their occupation code as a MOS
@@happykiwi oh ok. I was talking with an army guy one time and I asked him what his MOS was and looked at me with a funny look.
Used NEC in the Navy
0:53 I’d argue that the ODSTs are more like US Army Rangers than they are SAS or SEALs. Their mission sets are more in line with the Rangers.
Do you know w a marine raider is?
Lmao they are marine raiders. All of yall are over complicating this
@@skinnypoorchild414 yes, but they aren’t deployed in the same numbers that Army Rangers & ODSTs are deployed.
@@Wilhelmofdeseret if you don’t want this kind of over analyzing of such insignificant details, you’ve come to the wrong channel
@@dogloversrule8476 you're not overanalyzing you're completely misinformed. ODSTs are Marine Raiders/Force Recon/MARSOC. End of story.
US Marine here, fun fact. High level SF units often have a similar recruitment process as seen with the ODSTs. For example, groups like the navy seals, MARSOC, and scout snipers have requirements of already being enlisted in a combat MOS, or just outright Infantry only. Personally I wasn't SF or anything, but i did take plenty of specialized courses such as fast rope and the designated marksmans course where there would be all sorts of operators getting certifications their command wanted them to have. I was honestly surprised when meeting and talking with them that many didn't even start in the branch that they were now such a high level in. USMC snipers, MARSOC, Army Rangers, and even the Seals recruit from all over the different branches.
I think they're more akin to Delta especially with their anti-insurgency/hostage extraction component, with E-5 being a REQUIREMENT to even be glanced at by Delta training cadre. Factor in that they probably go through some of the most ridiculous training devised and also whatever fresh level of hell that the UNSCDF came up with for orbital assault school to be able to operate in space and to utilize a drop pod, and they are on the level of voodoo that frankly we just have probably never had anyone that's a real human being go through before that's been devised by any reasonably sane training command by any modern military.
In light of pretty much all of us not going to be Spartans, ODSTs are the best bet for us in the UNSC. I'd certainly love to be an ODST.
Feet First Into Hell!
Look on the bright side: if we survive as ODSTs, we’re probably shoe ins to be Spartan-IVs; and we can be the fours who are respectable
Same here
Yall go ahead and drop from orbit, I'll be in the front with the boys. UNMC baby
Ooo yah, Marine!!!!!
I'd love to be the storeman or clerk. Source: 2 years military conscription.
ODST’s have always been my favorites ever since I first saw them. Feet first into hell gentleman
I always tried to give them better weapons when they were with us on a mission
Underrated Halo lore channel. And that intro music is sick as hell 🔥
100% agree
FUCK YEAH MORE ODST CONTENT!
Hell yeah
ODSTs are the most badass unit in the unsc, far more than spartans. They both do about the same thing, but one has energy shielding and an enhanced body, the other just has a bit more armor than the average infantryman, and a few screws loose.
I would agree to an extent but Spartans are still more badass. They been training since they were small children and their whole life has been military discipline. ODSTs didn’t start training until adulthood. ODSTs get mad respect but Spartans still go through way worse and for way longer too.
"Do you have what it takes, to drop, solider?!"
"Sir, I was dropped everyday since birth."
"I like the enthusiastic tone. You are ODST material!"
The ODST are the absolute peak of human capability
The Spartans are just plain old super human.
In my opinion it’s even more impressive to have made it as an ODST than it is to be a Spartan II or III. You’re held up to insane standards with zero augmentations, no AI assistance, no highly advanced space armor with a nuclear battery and energy shields. You’re just a human with immense endurance, willpower and tenacity.
@@TheSillyFluff yeah a lot of the spartan programs were just a luck of the draw type deal, but ODSTs only get to their positions through sheer tenacity and willpower
ODSTs are Marine SOF, more than likely the evolution of modern day Marine Special Operations Command (MARSOC) colloquially known as Marine Raiders. There are even ODST units under command structure of Force Recon.
Maybe so but MARSOC operates in small teams and ODSTs operate more like the Ranger Reg. with company and battalion level airborne drops taking key objectives behind enemy lines and holding till the main force gets to them
@@ethansmitherman3362 MARSOC deploys at the battalion level you absolute mouth breather
@@dogevanzandt2889 Yeah that is their support units the actual combat teams are like 20 dudes
@@dogevanzandt2889 They operate like small SOF teams. They do not engage in combat at the company + level. If they are discovered and engaged in mass they leave
@@ethansmitherman3362 lol bro I was an anglico I worked with them all the time, idk how to tell you this but you're wrong.
The UNSC could also make a 5 seater variant of the drop pod (maybe call it the ODST FireTeam Pod) could even be large enough for a small vehicle. And or even a small turret that can help the OSSTs clear the immediate LZ by turning the pod itself into a temporary defensive position.
Pretty much just a larger pod for larger payloads.
I’m pretty much just adapting a design from WH 40k and tweaking it to work in halo (with UNSC technology)
Don’t get me wrong. I prefer Halo over 40k
But I love both universes, as well as Star Wars. (Which I think Star Wars could easily get away with making their own version of orbital insertion pods with a higher survivability rate and wider mission potential than the ODSTs have.
Heck, they already have the pods in the form of escape pods. Why not fill them with elite Clone Troopers, sensor decoys, jammers, and drop into an enemy base!
i think the whole reason why that wasnt the design was because if a fireteam pod got hit with anti air, five odsts are dead, if its just a regular pod, only one is dead. Really says something about their life expectance
@@The-Autistic-StrategistStar Wars has a drop pod, thought it’s only ever used once. In the NJO series, Luke’s Jedi strike team uses drop pods disguised as falling debris to insert onto occupied Coruscant
@@randomradonagreed, their chances are already very slim. Putting them all together in one pod would just make it even worse
@@randomradon I was thinking a slightly different mission profile.
Send in the normal solo pods to hit the AA and open a window for the larger pods (which have more hardware for survivability and more robust retro thrusters) Than the larger pods can act as makeshift battlements featuring optional friendly AA, AT, and Anti infantry weapons, providing cover safety for Pelicans to use as a beachhead.
This is one example of a plausible mission profile.
They could also be modular, and deploy special prefab structures.
(Again larger payloads. Quick deployment)
Need a firing position with a good overlook, drop a (unoccupied in flight) Pill box on that hill over there. (Don’t need as much retrograde for that, as you would want the pill box to partly bury itself)
Rapid Vehicle deployment.
Empty battlements for troops already planet-side
Manned battlements for enemy front lines that have undermanned AA defenses.
Again not the same mission profile.
But can aid and augment existing mission profiles amid operations.
I would love an odst game. Even getting into the drop pod and hitting the ground running. Titanfall made me fall in love with dropping in.
Have you played Halo 3 ODST? I recommend it if you havent
@krawlerkit yes, however I'd loved to have a few times getting together and drop in
Thanks for reminding me of titan fall 2 lol never played it but i heard the campaign was fire so now im going to try it
this goes without saying but theres helldivers 2 as well
ODSTs. Known for their commando attitude and their iconic memes.
The prerequisites for someone to even APPLY for ODSTs raises the question - in Fireteam Raven, we see Ramos was only 20 years old - how the heck did he enlist, end up in a SpecOps unit, apply for training, undergo the training, AND get assigned to a unit all in less than 2 years?
Just like WWII, training and being thrown into the fire of war was done at an ever increasingly corners cut approach with the vets providing battlefield OTJ advice and tips whilst fighting on a live battlefield. Also, the ODSTs were like the old school special ops outfits in that you HAD to be a vet of ground ops with experience of several firefights and a tour or 2 under your belt.
"Not exactly a rookie, no ODST is." ODST's were combat veterans with probably a corporal's level of combat expericence, thus the rookie probably was possibly higher rank prior to being deranked back to PFC in ODST Training. ODST's were being burned through in the ever increasingly harsh fighting especially from 2545 to the end of the war when things really ESCALATED. Some like Alpha-9(our favorite boys from Halo 3 ODST) WERE prior regular marines that did transition to the ODST's in a more normal fashion. But the 2549-2552 cadre of the last batch of ODST's like the majority of those we see in the Trilogy? Probably like in the time period of Operation Market Garden to April '45: Fast tracked and hoped that veteran troopers in the cadres of the jump units would make up for the deficient training of being fast tracked and the prereq's being dumped in favor of fielding units as fast as possible.
Thus you get troopers like Ramos who probably would've been denied a billet at any point prior to the period of ~2549 of being a trooper and told to get more experience as a regular grunt before being considered.
ODST’S and paratroopers are that if a different breed. ODST’S pods can fail, Paratroopers can have bad chutes. Both groups have a certain status depending on jumps or drops and both are meant to drop in behind enemy lines and cause damage.
Have you read 'The Life' fanfic by Casquis? It's a phenomenal read about an ODDTs journey from training through the end of the war. Personally, it's my head cannon for how the ODSTs are
I want to be an ODST so bad.. but I also want to be a Spartan II. The Mk IV and the Mk V mjolnir armor are my favorite
Being an S-II would suck. 50/50 chance of dying at 14 isn't very enticing, much less all the pain and not getting to be a kid.
Being a Spartan 2 isn’t as fun as it seems. They’re all pale with erectile dysfunction and severe psychological damage, most have major issues socializing, and have the personality of machines.(most of them not all)
Be an odst, or a Spartan 4 and create your own head cannon that your Spartan 4 is the best out of all 4’s lol
You wanna be kidnapped from your family at 6 and put through a rigorous training capable of killing you before being put through a biological augmentation when you’re 14 that has a 67% chance of killing you? You do you but I wouldn’t recommend it
Im completely aware to all of that.
@Cocostinkypaws Where did you get erectile dysfunction from? Most have reduced sexual drive, but not all, and it is psychological.
I always imagined how cool it would be if they had Matchmaking game options like Team Slayer, BTB, Objective games in ODST. The game would've been FAR more popular.
I wish we got to see more of the different specialist units with the ODSTs, we got to see the Air Assault "Bullfrogs" during Halo Reach, but since then we haven't really seen anything else since. It'd be nice to see units that specialize in EVA combat, covert missions utilizing sub-prowlers to infil/exfil, or even undercover work. I'd especially like to see it used against the Insurrection to see how they try to respond to direct attacks, what kind of improvised weapons and tactics they use to try and gain the upper hand.
In the book Halo: Silent Storm, we get to meet the Black Daggers, which are Space Assault ODST.
I don’t think that the ODST would have an undercover team since ONI would have better people for that. ODSTs are door kickers not spies
We also have Halo Legends: Babysitter which showcases an ODST squad and a Spartan-II on an assassination mission.
@@joeanderson8707 True, but Halo: Legends isn't canon and has a little too much focus on the character drama than the actual mission.
Imagine training on Reach. That extra gravity won't be pretty for three weeks non-stop PT training. Make even the SAS training look like day-care.
Watching this and damn gotta say Nathan Fillion is a hardass, respect sir 🫡
Everyody says they want to be an ODST... but honestly, the place you really want to be is a HQ storeman or clerk. Or best of all, air force HQ storeman or clerk.
Source: 2 years military conscription.
What installation00 is saying put in simpler terms is : to become an ODST, one must have balls of titanium steel…. No even that of Vibranium” this video strikes home.
Not everyone can be a Spartan but some people can be an ODST
How to become a Spartan: Step 1: Get kidnapped
3 weeks seems way too little for pt. I get they are already in shape soldiers performing at industry peak but 6-12 weeks seems way more reasonable.
Agreed, especially when you take into account all the schools they would have to go through
You've never been or seen a selection
Delta Force selection, 3-4 weeks weighted solo navigation and ruck marches in the hills, SAS selection 5 weeks of navigation and solo ruck marches in the hills, SASR, constant ruck marches and navigation in the hills, KSK, navigation in the hills 3-4 weeks, 1er RPma, hill navigation, Belgium SF, JTF2, NZSAS etc. etc. you see a pattern emerging here? They aren't long and over complicated strength training and beasting sessions with instructors constantly shouting at them telling them to work harder and overwhelming them, nope, they're challenging because they are testing them on a much more psychological aspect. They're never given feedback, never told if they're doing wrong or right, never once verbally assessed, just given silent judgment and observed when doing these seemingly long, ardous, weighted and self navigated marches across pathetic terrain in pathetic weather with no one around, and see if u can wake up everyday and keep doing that again and again and again and again, with no end in sight, sleep getting shorter, weights getting heavier, distances getting longer and timings becoming worse and worse. They simply want to see, when the chips are down, when there's no hope left, with no orders, no feedback, no one to tell u to keep pushing, no one to berate u, no one around to help u up, and the objective still miles away, do u keep on pushing? Or do u give up? They want to know what kind of man you truly r, and if u r the right fit for the unit.
Spend one weekend doing pt for 16-24 hrs a day and tell me it ain't shit. One
I remember seeing odst for the first time in reach and I was thinking. THESE GUYS LOOK SO COOL.
Hey bean, wake up. The best Halo lore/science stuff channel just put up a video on some of the COOLEST special forces in all of gaming.
Appreciate the content man, really do
the covenant call spartans "demons" because the 3 prophets denounced humans because if the covenant found out humans were the real reclaimers, their religion would crumble
Easy: it takes a special kind of crazy.
You forgot to mention the biggest combat hazard of all: When a Scarab is about to wreck the groundside base and the MAC is still charging so the commander uses your squad as an impromptu orbital strike.
What's really goofy is that all of the ODST's suppose to have the Nightfall Power Armor but 343 lack the courage to make it happen
Looking up on ODSTs before this, I read that while majority are from the UNSC Marine Corps there are those who are Army, Navy, and Air Force in their ranks as well. Meaning it's rare for someone to be an ODST who weren't a Marine.
Also be pretty dupe if ODSTs were given MK-III SPI armor that increases the wearer's physical attributes and had energy shielding.
Some ODSTs actually did get to use the photo reactive plates in SPI. So that’s cool.
Last I checked SPI armor didn't have energy shielding
@@witherwolf3316
Some do, but at the cost of energy that would be reserved for the stealth functions
"Remember enter hell feet first"
As a veteran: the training clothing that stiffens up after being hit by Sim rounds is a pretty good idea.
Not going to lie, getting shot by sim rounds hurts like heck. My security forces squadron used them for active shooter training.
Kind of fun, though.
Now a good versus analysis and probably well more fair than Spartans VS Space Marines would be "ODSTs VS N7 operatives" (Mass Effect).
This is so cool hearing about this nothing beats the ODST MY FAVOURITE CHARACTERS
It would be cool for you guys to cover the other UNSC special operations units in the other branches.
Yeah that'd be awesome. I'd like to see more lore related to the ins and outs of the UNSC military.
I still think we need a ODST Saving Private Ryan themed tv show that focuses on a squad of helltroopers in the middle of a planetary invasion
Fyi we don't, at least in the USMC call it a mos but rather by letter, m, o, s.
I bet I could be an ODST, I'm built different
So they are the Leroy Jenkins units.
Does anyone else just blackout by looking at the pictures then snaps out mid explanation to figure out what happened? 😂
Here’s one thought, change the pods from being purely a pod and actually being able to change into a small assistive robot for a force multiplier
Don't think that would work with how likely the pod is to be damaged on landing
Helljumper Helljumper WHERE YA BEEN?!
Gods damn. I loved this video. I hope you'll let me use this as research for my book? I'll be sure to credit you if that is the case.
I just realized the guy from the ODST trailer has the last name TARKOV lol 😂
In my opinion, I feel the ODSTs are more related or act more like the US army ranger for ODSTs there more of a shock and awe type troop
This vids got me stoked for the day
So with all the dangers of droppod deployment listed. I have to asked: do the benefits out wieght the risk of losing such skill troops?
It’s the same reason we still have airborne, they create dilemmas for the enemy. The enemy can either spread themselves out more thinly by putting limited resources into finding the ODSTs which would make it so that the regular forces have to deal with less, or they can choose to not counter the ODSTs & have to suffer the consequences of having enemy forces attacking their supply lines & other assets.
They are like a less equipped version of the Mobile Infantry, the book version btw....
I get what a lot of you are saying with them being apart of the UNSC Marine Corps but tactically in this universe they play more of an Airborne Ranger roll with how they are deployed and the objectives they are given
The UNSC Army already maintains its own Ranger forces who only act as long-range scouts, counter-insurgent specialists, and foreign internal defense on colony worlds, usually more focused on human affairs like pirates and criminals.
ODSTs are traditionally rapid reaction forces or as you guessed it, shock troopers, deploying from orbit either to clear a landing zone for the Marines, reinforce them, or to "shock" their enemy.
Both are special operations units, except their doctrines and missions are just... different. But yeah, I can see the similarities.
@@nepnepguythegreatestofall Whole heartedly agree. My stance this whole time has been the ODSTs are all of what you said but compared to all of the armed forces in real life they match the rangers the most in how they are deployed tactically on the battlefield
Honestly I thought ODSTs were basically just air dropping Marines in cooler armour, turns out they were called hell jumpers for a reason
Imagine doing all of this just to get killed by a jackal sniper in the first 3 seconds of combat…
Officers of the ODSTs have a level of luck that rivals that of the Chief.
All of this about the risk really just makes Halo 3 ODST's campaign an even more endearing and badass underdog story. All of the characters act like assholes, but you know it's just because they're losing the war, they're all replacements, and they're about to drop from orbit into a Covenant-controlled city that they can only get out of by shooting their way out with their own guns. The only way they cope with it is with a "don't give a shit" attitude, but despite the bellyaching, after surviving insurmountable odds and devastating injury and stealing a phantom just to survive, they still turn it around and go right back into hell when ordered to. It's such a brief moment but it is really the thing that turns them from a bunch of assholes into a group of heroes. Imagine barely surviving the most un-survivable event of your entire life and then having to turn around and go back into it.
Y'know, this adds more context as to why ODST's tend to hate Spartans so much. ODST's go through all that shit to become some of the best soldiers in the UNSC, while Spartans just get a fucking surgery and some fancy expensive armour and suddenly get all the glory.
That's what warfare evolution is. Go back 500ish years for example, knights had to train since they were kids learning how to ride horses, clean & maintain their armour & use swords, maces & shields etc. All that changed overnight when firearms were introduced; soldiers been training for weeks on how to use a musket. Spartans are natural evolution of all that. It'll get to the point where you can just download a "war print" to your brain on everything warfare related from tactics & asset use accumulated from thousands of years of warfare history.
…I mean Spartan IIs were raised from childhood, and put through an incredibly risky augmentation surgery at the age of 14 where 70% of them died. The IIIs were used as child soldiers. And the IVs…i mean, some are former ODSTs
The details and descriptions of the odst, can be felt in the words said.
@ Instillation 00 ..
I got a video ideal for you . What does it take to become a Hellbringer in the UNSC. And where do they recruit people crazy enough to use flamethrowers against enemies firing plasma at them?
Because that doesn't sound like a job people normally would volunteer for. But people have volunteer for crazier jobs . So it's an interesting question
Basically Spartans without the augments.
Writing a headcannon that focuses quite a bit on ODSTs, the main character is in the 22nd Regiment ODST, I'll give ya a cookie if you can guess why
Can’t guess but always love to learn.
Have you read 'The Life' fanfic by Casquis? It's a phenomenal read about an ODDTs journey from training through the end of the war. Personally, it's my head cannon for how the ODSTs are.
@@TheReaver1234 probably a reference to uk tier 1 sf - 22 SAS
I remember the first time seeing ODST on my very first halo 2 playthrough. I thought and still think they are badass. Love the helmets
I would imagine that ODST training is like the US Army RASP program with a bit of Robin Sage from Green Beret training and selection. Since they have to do more than shock tactics, they also do long range recon as well so they have to go through SERE.
The odst trailer gave me goose bumps the first time I saw it. It still gives me goose bumps when I watch it.
They should have made a series about the ODSTs and have spartans cameo sure then the madterchief series. Woulda been cool
Considering my past, and how hard it was (not getting into details on a halo lore video), and the fact that people always say I’m resilient and my family says I’d do good in the military, i would be willing to be an ODST, it’s worth it i would think, to be an elite soldier. ODST show that you don’t have to be a Spartan to be resilient or resourceful, or cool
I wish we had another ODST game. Hell, I’d pay for a 3rd person ODST game in a somewhat open world Halo universe. Like, Halo 3: ODST on all the drugs and steroids
Hell yes. I would give a kidney for an ODST themed ghost recon Wildlands style game. Fighting innies on one front and then working with them against the covenant on another. Using stealth one minute but then going loud and dropping from orbit to tear shit up the next. It’s such a shame that halo went woke 😢
A saxophone and being a strong, silent type.
I thought honestly the Covenant would call the ODST something like "the fallen angels" are some shit like that you know them coming from orbit and all, and marines would be the imps because there would we so many of them and there one of the lowest of compared to the ODSTs and Spartans but thats just me tho lol let me know what yall think.
I wonder wig takes to be a pilot in the Halo Universe. I’ve always wanted to pilot the following Halo Vehicles.
1. Pelican
2. Sabre
3. Falcon
4. Wasp
5. Cyclops
6. Colossus
7. Mantis
8. Spirit
9. Banshee
10. Vampire
11. Seraph
12. Phaeton
Everyone wants to be a spartan. I always said I'd go marine and ODST. We need a solid ODST follow up. Ne squad, random colony, death all around.
I always felt the technology the ODST had was sub par this just proves it
I imagine most ODSTs have an EOD mentality about the drop-pod issues. “Eh, if it happens, it happens.” Like there’s only one really bad day for an ODST.
This come out a few days after I complete my ODST training on Arma?! Bro is this is sign that I belong
If you've ever played halo wars, you quickly realize the casualty rate for these guy's exceeds 90%.
So these guys are mobile infantry without the armor. This training is almost verbatim out of starship troopers minus the special forces member requirement, up to and including the lead from the front and all officers are veterans of drops stuff. For those who have not read it I am referring to the book and not the movies.
Less than twenty seconds in you mention the ODST's "Iconic means of entering the battlefield", except you paused after the word "means" for a second.
My brain registered that as "Iconic memes"
I've always seen them as similar to US Army Rangers, their mission statement is almost the same. A premier direct action/shock unit, that can secure landing zones, do small unit tactics behind enemy lines, etc.
And the 105th would be kinda like the Ranger RRC, Delta or the SAS, basically tier 1.
the sheer talents and badassery it takes to be an ODST simply in lore is why I would ove that to be real I love the military respect it immensely but can you imagine taking it to the next step
From the extended trailer for Halo ODST it looks like you can enter the ODST training pipeline after boot camp and going through an indoc course.
This is much like the US Navy SEALS, and US Army Special Forces (ie Whisky X-Ray program) get new people.
Mind you this doesn’t mean there are elite ODST units on par with Delta Force (whatever it’s called now), or DEVGRU.
Nicely done.
It would be really nice to have a further fleshing out of ODSTs nowadays with the amount of open source modern day SOF information available
Either that, or detailing other SOF type units in the halo universe, even as far back as the insurrection days
Great video 👍🏾
I would love for a live action film to be made in the form of a "documentary" of ODST training.
" Orbital Drop Shock Rockin "
They’re actually more of a close equivalent of the US Army’s 82’d Airborne. Their job is to be deployed within 18 hours, jump into enemy territory, take airfields and set up LZ’s.
Also, MOS is just pronounced M O S
ODSTs are closer to the US Army's 75th Ranger Regiment. Army Rangers are special operations while the 82nd Airborne is not.
@@johnk.7523 the rangers have a different mission set, the only equivalency is the special operations umbrella. ODST is still closer to the 82nd
The initial part of submitting a package to get accepted into the ODST candidate program sounds similar to something like the hoops we gotta jump through to join SEALs or MARSOC. That being said I'm good being a mechanic, I'll fix stuff in the field or back in garrison, but I'd rather stay on the ground.