Loft Conversion Part 15 - Slating the roof. Roof slates, copper nails & disk rivets!
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2019
- Welcome to part 15 in my series of DIY loft conversion videos where I take you, the viewer through my loft conversion from start to finish. In this video I begin slating the roof providing some detail on the materials and methods I use.
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For more loft conversion videos click here:
Loft conversion part 1 - Removing the insulation & lime mortar - • Loft conversion part 1...
Loft Conversion part 2 - Cutting and fitting the joists - • Loft Conversion Part 2...
Loft conversion part 3 - Building the block work wall - • Loft Conversion Part 3...
Loft Conversion part 4 - Fit more joists up to the block work - • Loft Conversion Part 4...
Loft Conversion part 5 - Insulation underboard & plyboard - • Loft Conversion Part 5...
Loft Conversion part 6 - Fit the perlin supports - • Loft Conversion Part 6...
Loft Conversion part 7 - Fit more joists and open the roof - • Loft Conversion Part 7...
Loft Conversion part 8 - Remove old rafters & construct the dormer cheeks - • Loft conversion Part 8...
Loft conversion part 9 - Ridge board, rafters and dormer construction - • Loft conversion Part 9...
Loft conversion part 10 - Velux frames, dormer cheeks, fit & level rafters - • Loft conversion part 1...
Loft conversion part 11 - Insulate between rafters & breathable membrane - • Loft Conversion Part 1...
Loft conversion pary 12 - Build the rear dormer. Pitched roof dormer construction - • Loft conversion part 1...
Loft conversion part 13 - insulate between rafters, breathable membrane and roofing battens - • Loft Conversion Part 1...
Loft conversion part 14 - Fascia boards, Fascia vents & felt support trays - • Loft Conversion Part 1...
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Music Credits
Artist - Pouse Party
Song Name - Intro / Outro
Artist - The Elephant Rescue Plan
Song Name - Fifteen - Навчання та стиль
I have learned so much from you, and I thank you for time, trouble and expense to which you have gone in making your splendid building videos.
No problem, thanks for watching.
jobs like these you never estimate how long it really takes you, keep up the hard work cheers...
Yes you're right. Especially when you work full time with a family and working parents. You begin to fit it in as and when, then 12 month later....! Although, I have to say this video was August last year. The project is way ahead of this, I just can't edit the vids quick enough. Thanks for watching!
What a lad slating in the rain ! If it rains tomoz am calling it lol
Sometimes it's got to be done! Best of luck with your job.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE pissing down here ! Still doing the trade proud by getting this done and away
My dad is doing an attic conversion for me so last night me my dad and step mum all sat and watched your videos on the TV, the entire series. You’ve become somewhat of an celebrity in this house now, we can’t wait for your next video.
Thanks for the feedback. Hope the vids give some inspiration or ideas but some of it is work it out as you go along, so don't assume this is 'the way' to go about it. Best of luck with your project. Thanks for watching.
Better watching coronation street, and thats bad enough
Bet your glad the slates are going on , really coming along nicely .
Yes, although this was a while back now. End of Aug 2018.
These are not slates just pretend slates
Excellent work mate. Love watching your videos.
Thank you.
Pouses are amazing team, thanks taking to pain to explain loft conversion process
It's only DIY so not necessarily the 'done' way but thanks for your feedback.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE thank you so much for sharing. What brand v slate is this please. And are rubber slates any good? If so what brand do you recommend? Please help. Thanks again
Quality series
Thanks for the feedback.
....and you still beat me to the pub! 😂
When will you make your cameo appearance? I was getting speaking parts but he's not putting that in any more!
@@bp8092 I think it will be a few episodes yet!
@@charlieshooter he probably won't put you in at all!
You're not in it any more because you stopped working!
@Charlie - You'll get your plug soon enough!
Fantastic mate your a gem
Thanks for watching.
How long does it take to lay per meter square roughly
pouses done excellent work great job i like that VERY professional work love you good wish for you God bless you and family happy to see Thanks
Thanks for the feedback!
Awesome quick tip cutting ya eve slates , Mark them then use the stilh saw on a few packs 👍🏻 keep it up lads
Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching.
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There are different types of slates available, which would you recommend so its economical and carrys durability.
I couldn't really comment on other slates. I chose these cembrit fibre cement slates as they are cheaper than real slate, I think they look nice, and they're easy to work with. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Go for real slate, all i would with these fibre tiles is cut them and make coasters
Best synthetic slate? Tapco, Iko, another? Would love to hear more opinions from people that have experience with these products.
What was the total cost of the conversion buddy?
Great job
What type of slates/tyles are those and how long do they last on the roof, life expectancy?
Cembrit eternit fibre cement. Check cembrit website, all details should be on there. Thanks for watching.
30 year guarantee
Great job, do you use disk rivets on Spanish slate tiles? I have slate tiles on my dormer cheeks and find they rattle in the wind and would want to know what can be done to stop them rattling?
so are you drilling new holes in the bottom row?
With fibre cement slates your 'eves course' or bottom row consists of cut down slate across the bottom, over topped with another row of slightly longer cut down slates but with gaps offset, so yes they need to be drilled as the pre drilled may be cut out of the slate. Then your first full slate goes over these giving a thickness of 3 slates right at the bottom. Hard to explain in a comment but hopefully it was all in the video.
Quick question.....I get the gauge calc but what happens at the ridge position ie the last batten.....presumably it's a virtually impossibility for the last batten to land at the exact same gauge, so what did you do? Thanks
If you have a detached house, you can work they gauge to get even spacing all the way up by just reducing or increasing the gauge slightly. However, because I was matching in with next door, you're right, so I just did a tighter top row of slates. But, also bear in mind, your ridge tiles will cover the top row of slates also. Hope that makes sense, and best of luck with your project.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE thanks for reply. Yeah, I was thinking about pre-holed slates where the gauge is set but, of course, as per your suggestion there's obviously still wiggle room given that the batten is 50mm wide thus allowing small adjustments to, perhaps, make big differences when applied across the whole slope. 👍
You mentioned that the disc rivets are held in place by each of the tiles underneath the one it pokes through. Can you let me know how this works with the very bottom row of tiles? How is the disk held in then, just by the weight of the tile itself? I just recently noticed that a lot of bottom row tiles on my own roof are missing these rivets, and wondering if they could lift in strong winds without them?
On this kind of slate (fibre cement) you do an eaves course which is a short slate all the way across which is nailed. The next course is with a slightly longer slate (about two thirds of a slate lenghth) also nailed to the next batten. The copper disk rivet sits ON the eaves course of slates, pokes THROUGH THE GAP between two slates on the next course, then finally a full length course of slates is laid down and nailed and the disk rivets you just put on go THROUGH THE HOLE on this course of slates. Then you just carry on with full sized slates and repeat the process to the top. Hope that helps.
Matey has cone of his batten already and he’s only on his 3rd skate 😅
Otherwise a good clear instructional video.
Perhaps a career in tv 📺 awaits?
I was following the line of the neighbours roof with old bowed rafters so trying to keep a nice line across two houses. Thanks for the feedback.
No thanks, youtube is enough!
very descriptive and well explained.👌🏼
Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching.
How do you get the disc rivets in the correct position? When I've done this job, I've had to use a screwdriver and hammer to adjust their position for every slate - it takes ages!
I leave the nails on slates slightly loose, place slate over disk rivet, tap disk rivet up using end of slate (or the side of a pry bar is good), then when slate in right place, take it off, tap nails in tight and then slate on and nail into place but loose again, until the next sate is lined up. If you wack nails in, its hard as you say to move disk rivet. Hope that helps, Thanks for watching and best of luck!
Just use normal copper nails and use mastic etc under the front of slate so not to use that vile nail which makes the job look cheap
Is 80mm enough cover for slate
For slates used in the video, 100mm is recommended for the pitch of my roof. If you check manufacturers website, they will tell you minimum cover required based on pitch of your roof. Hope that helps.
Slate cover is normally worked out for pitch of roof remember the overlap is for the slate thats beneath the slate you are laying your next slate on.
You could get you're dummy course and eave course out of 1 slate, just cut the slate above the nail hole and there you go. But people do things differently
Yes, thanks for that. I had to line up with the neighbour's slates so unfortunately it wouldn't work in this example. Thanks for the feedback though.
Use a Stanley knife or angle grinder to cut too
Thanks for the info 👍
Are these jutland slates? Are they blue black or graphite?
Graphite. Cembrit slates, I think Jutlant but I'd have to check.
These are not slates at all, they are just the most disgusting fibre tiles that were ever made
Need to be careful working on these slates i know 2 lads who slipped off the roof working off crawlers.
I've got a wrap around scaffolding so not too far to fall!
You need to be careful on all roofs, if properly boarded out on roof irons you should have no problems
No gutter?
I fit that in a later video. Thanks for watching.
Gutter, rhone pipes can be fitted to a wooden facia board, or brackets under slates if no facia board
Would have been better to have used a secret bonding gutter between yours and next door roof and put slates on at correct gauge
Tha are not roofers plus the felt lapped over the fascia will root away after a couple or more years because that felt roots in Sun light you need a eave protection put through the eave line
I've used felt support trays all around the house. Look closer! Thanks for watching.
Rather position the slate tile all the way to the top of the batten, so your nail is not so near the end. You should use a special crimping pliers for the copper rivet, in order to twist the rivet. Preventing any movement on the bottom end of the slate.
Thanks for the feedback!
Just tap it down with your hammer job done
Did you leave your horses in the car park?
No, in my garden! Thanks for watching.
Nice one, i hope they dont start telling us how to shoe horse
Greta work but please watch your safety on slippy surfaces.
Thanks for your concern, I haven't fallen off......yet!
Thanks for your concern, I haven't fallen off......yet!
Rather than cut a third of the first row of slates, the way to do it is just to rotate the slate 90° and then there are no cuts to be made.
Not sure that would have worked on my roof. I was lining up with the neighbour's slates. Thanks for watching.
Indeed, spot on Sir. First course is full slate turned on it's side, the second course is around 15" long and then a full slate. Also ping chalk lines in the centre of one's battens to keep the heads of the slates straight, 🔨 🇮🇪
Very talk!!
Thanks!
They are called copper disc rivets also you should fit eve trays at Eves that fit into gutter
Thanks for the feedback.
If they were real slate normal copper nail would do, and you wouldnt have that vile nail at the bottom o
Whats the music mate ? Its a good band !
the elephant rescue plan. I reference the band and song name in the video description. Thanks for watching.
The music is as bad as the slating
Rivets...
You’ve got 2” headlap...
it’s gonna leak...
Head lap is 100mm as recommended by the manufacture for this pitch of roof. It's been there for years and working fine so don't panic.
They are cementitious tiles and not slate, so you were tiling not slating.
But they are called fibre cement slates and they are fixed like slates as this is what they imitate, so therefore I'll continue to call them slates. Thanks for watching!
Exactly what i was sating to a mate, what there doing looks rubbish, nothing like the beauty of real slate, plus with the size and ease of laying these tiles you could tile the whole roof in a day
First baton should.be 12 inch.and half
I can see first slate.not sitting half baton
In this particular install I was lining up with next doors slates which may be what your talking about. I didn't wNt a strip between me and next door so the whole roof on both houses looked the same. Thanks for watching.
I thought you must place them from top to bottom.
Start at the bottom and over lap as you go to the top.
You must start at the bottom otherwise how are you going to nail the slates
2 of yous only got about 100 slates on in a day lol
You could lay the whole house with those crap tiles, ( not slates as they are saying)
@@georgemacdonald5282 tgey are slates tiles are made out of clay or stone boss
Fiber cement slates lose there color and warp and look terrible in years to come ‘ natural slates are the only way to go they last many life times
I would agree they are much nicer, but they cost a lot more also. Thanks for the feedback.
Quite right plus that fibrer cement slates, tiles look rubbish when brand new
This aint no roofer
You're right, I am not a roofer. Thanks for watching.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE I was , I'm retired now it's not rocket science especially using eternits ect. You probably started doing it yourself because you needed to crack on with the job, roofers in general can be unreliable slags 😂 🤙
@@peterbalac1915 🤣🤣 Thanks for watching!
Got it in one, my child could lay that rubbish
You have started the eave wrong
Please elaborate.
Your videos are great , love your style clearly you are an excellent builder but your music is Rubbish !
Thanks for the feedback Phillip!
You need to watch a proper tradesman
Not being funny mate try getting the nails in the lath
I didn't need to try, I did. Thanks for watching.
These slates are the worst roofing product on the market.. absolute garbage!
Why? Doing a great job on my roof. Easy to use, uniformed size, affordable, look good. Thanks for watching.
Well said mate they look absolutely pathetic