The PAYDAY 3 Beta is in an Embarrassing State

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  • Опубліковано 1 сер 2023
  • The Payday 3 Beta is finally here, and it was pretty rough on day one. Most of the time, it didn't function. Here's the details.
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  • @darkodoesstuff
    @darkodoesstuff 11 місяців тому +45

    Crazy how the beta that was stated to be to test servers has server problems.

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому +9

      That's right! The point I was trying to make is I think it will be difficult for them to resolve all of these server issues for launch. I don't think it's impossible for them. They just have a LOT of work cutout for them

    • @noobienoob337
      @noobienoob337 11 місяців тому +2

      All of these will make the launch a bit unsuccessful imo

  • @lynxovski
    @lynxovski 11 місяців тому +13

    I had a feeling this would happen, Starbreeze has been doing a huge amount of oopsies lately.

    • @Spadoff421
      @Spadoff421 11 місяців тому +2

      It's a server test and stress beta. It's not going to be perfect.

    • @simonsayze7967
      @simonsayze7967 11 місяців тому

      on the web page that announced the beta, they stated this as a known issue.

    • @lynxovski
      @lynxovski 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Spadoff421 Its a marketing demo, dont belive them, this has happen alot of times before in the past with other companies aswel. I aint falling for it yet again.

  • @marosynth6434
    @marosynth6434 11 місяців тому +15

    the devs did say the beta is from april, so of course it's gonna be worse, plus it's a technical beta to see the states of the servers, so if they're not working correctly then it's good this beta exists, otherwise the game would be released with all these servers issues and more. now, of course shit isn't perfect even taking this into account, the denuvo and always online shit really need to go imo.
    once again, THIS BETA WAS ALREADY SAID TO BE FROM APRIL, NOT JUNE OR JULY.

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому +3

      I'll never deny it's good to be getting this out of the way now so we don't have growing pains at launch. My frustration is more coming from it being this bad to begin with. I'm concerned that the build was in a state where the majority of people can't level up but Starbreeze still sent it out as a viable testing environment. That isn't close to the conditions of where the starting point should be.

    • @marosynth6434
      @marosynth6434 11 місяців тому +4

      @@RustyChains Yea honestly I have no idea why they thought sending the April build rather than the June build was a good idea

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому +9

      @@marosynth6434 If I had to guess, I'd say it was to hide things that aren't ready to reveal. The June build we played, which was the Press Build, had a whole other heist as well as some other things. The April build we got now is already being datamined to high hell. It would be much, much worse with the Press Build

  • @occultperspective
    @occultperspective 11 місяців тому +5

    the level 1 bug is happening to me too
    Hope they fix it

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому +4

      They at least tweeted that they're aware of it. However, I'd rather they spend those resources making sure things are ready for release rather than stitching up a beta on a build that's four months old

  • @duelence
    @duelence 11 місяців тому +14

    Felt like rusty used this video to sneak in the punchline to beg starbreeze to make the game able to be played offline 😂

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому +11

      Guilty as charged. I feel like the beta proved why we needed it, though!

  • @ScottieTheFox
    @ScottieTheFox 11 місяців тому +6

    me when the beta meant to help fix bugs before launch has bugs in it

    • @-------------764
      @-------------764 11 місяців тому

      "Guys it's a beta stress test, why are you all complaining about things breaking in this environment?"
      Oh idk maybe because we are 49 DAYS away from launch and we're already seeing what an "Online Payday 3 Experience" is shaping up to be.
      ˢᵗᵒˡᵉⁿ ᶠʳᵒᵐ ʳᵉᵈᵈᶦᵗᵒʳ /ᵘ/ᵀʳᶦᵐᵃᶜᵏ_ᴿ

  • @sith_master_shaun7988
    @sith_master_shaun7988 11 місяців тому

    right now I’m trying to download the beta but it keeps saying something went wrong?? N give it another try??

  • @shawnx17
    @shawnx17 11 місяців тому +2

    I wouldn't know. Didn't get picked for the beta.

  • @devan7333
    @devan7333 11 місяців тому +5

    To be fair the servers did just get semi public use so some kinks ae gonna be there. Honestly I feel a good chunk of the bugs are gonna be sorted out near the release date.

  • @mikeymyers7889
    @mikeymyers7889 11 місяців тому

    I'm on xbox series x does anyone know how to fix the nebula deta error its kinda pissing me off I waited to play this game now I cant

  • @ryann8518
    @ryann8518 11 місяців тому +1

    i keep getting nebula data error everytime i try and log in. not sure what to do

    • @agentherouniverse6576
      @agentherouniverse6576 11 місяців тому +1

      yeah in the beta bugs its says that they are working on a fix

  • @Devver08
    @Devver08 11 місяців тому

    No sentry turrets either, even after unlocking skill req for engineer. Sad.

  • @AlFredo-sx2yy
    @AlFredo-sx2yy 11 місяців тому +15

    "Nooooo but the knowley said it was so goooododododoo1!!!!1!11!" -every payday player that lacks critical thinking.

    • @davidadu8559
      @davidadu8559 11 місяців тому +6

      I think the Knowley for the most part is reliable, the issue really stems from starbreeze lacking any attention to keeping this game working.
      Plus, it’s as rusty chains says, the game worked fine on the build they played a month ago in July, the one which the knowley attended, but this beta game is bullshit, and nobody had any idea until now that the goddamn servers and progression systems aren’t even working

    • @AlFredo-sx2yy
      @AlFredo-sx2yy 11 місяців тому +6

      @@davidadu8559 yeah, the only feeling i can get from this is that ovk is still as incompetent as they have always been and that the game is shipping in a broken state, thats all.

    • @marosynth6434
      @marosynth6434 11 місяців тому +5

      @@AlFredo-sx2yy it was already stated this beta is from a build from April, which was on worse state than the build that was more known to us, which was from June. This means that at least the game we'll get shipped out is gonna be much more robust as already confirmed by most if not all content creators
      ON THE OTHER HAND, as to why Overkill decided to test servers on the April build rather than the June build is beyond me.

    • @davidadu8559
      @davidadu8559 11 місяців тому +2

      @@AlFredo-sx2yyyeah, they haven’t learnt from the walking dead clearly, and it’s stupid considering the team managed to make payday 2 far more stable at launch than this

    • @davidadu8559
      @davidadu8559 11 місяців тому +2

      @@marosynth6434exactly, why the hell would they use an older build of the game? It begs the question onto whether or not the game is truly finished yet. I’m not going to doubt them, but it’s not a good look

  • @camkeller8926
    @camkeller8926 11 місяців тому

    On Xbox series X it runs fine and the group I play with have had no server issues but none of us have been able to level up either

  • @gu3z185
    @gu3z185 11 місяців тому

    I thought that not being able to reach character lvl 2 was intentional. If it's not, what the fuck. But also why would it not be?

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому

      It is not intentional. The intended level cap of the beta is 22

    • @gu3z185
      @gu3z185 11 місяців тому

      @@RustyChains yeah, I noticed that they posted about it on the pd Twitter. My progression fixed itself after I failed a heist, but I don't know if that has anything to do with it

  • @radicalgamingnerd986
    @radicalgamingnerd986 11 місяців тому +1

    Not a fan of the new game so far.

  • @bunchypond1711
    @bunchypond1711 11 місяців тому

    I played for like 5 hours not a single problem so idk

  • @PROPHYZ
    @PROPHYZ 11 місяців тому

    mabey they can make offline progression its own thing.. as weird this sounds, better than nothing.
    This online only shit is so fkn annoying....

  • @crypto40
    @crypto40 11 місяців тому

    It’s a closed beta not they serious and you somehow expected it to work properly? This is why you don’t pre order or get hyped for games now

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому

      I understand all that. For me this situation is more "my expectations were low but holy shit". There is little to be gained when they kick it out the door in a state of "Yeah we know its broken". Now we have development resources going into stabilizing the beta build rather than the final game.

  • @vyruss9348
    @vyruss9348 11 місяців тому

    Performanceeeeeeeeeee... isn't good.

  • @ethiuseximius7403
    @ethiuseximius7403 11 місяців тому

    the performance is awfull

  • @RainbowsClone
    @RainbowsClone 11 місяців тому +3

    only about 400 people playing it right now with a peak of 1100. Some server test!

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому +3

      Remember, this is available on Xbox as well so it isn't just Steam. But also timezones have to be factored in, as well as the fact that this playtest has a total global cap of 5000 people spread across the globe. There are more rolling invites coming so it'll increase over the next few days. For a smaller sized test to drop in the middle of a Wednesday when a lot of Payday's target audience is at work, this test was never going to be at 5000 out of 5000 and that is perfectly fine. My concern is that the servers struggling to this degree with this few players means it'll be some rough going on launch with all the gamepass players plus however many other purchases

    • @HatsOffYT
      @HatsOffYT 11 місяців тому

      Its 5000 today and more will be sent out in the coming days

  • @arbert....8654p
    @arbert....8654p 11 місяців тому +1

    Payday3 looks dope 😍

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому

      When it works well, it really does slap!

  • @DrBockNstein
    @DrBockNstein 11 місяців тому

    I expected the server issues but it's weird that they would allow the public to play a much older build then the one they let youtubers and press mess with. I get that it's a stress test but why would they want to lead with a less functional build?? There must have been some technical issue or something that came up and they thought this build would be better???

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому

      It is odd. Been wracking my brain about it

  • @josephbillanes3017
    @josephbillanes3017 11 місяців тому

    Jesus is it that bad?

    • @Wakools
      @Wakools 11 місяців тому +2

      No, the whole point of the beta was to test the servers by tomorrow it’s probably gonna be fixed

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому +2

      In our experience, yes. Everything we talked about in this video happened on our livestream today so we have video of it all

  • @benadryler69
    @benadryler69 11 місяців тому

    The beta build that the devs said wouldn't function perfectly didn't function perfectly? Might as well just scrap the game altogether then

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому

      I didn't expect it to function perfectly. I was just hoping it would function...somewhat

  • @sharkygaming8987
    @sharkygaming8987 11 місяців тому

    The performance being that bad they must know it runs like s*** on console, hence no PS5 beta.
    Look at the last online game they made OTWD & look what happened to it.

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому

      I AM quite interested to see how it runs on on the Xbox beta that's out right now.

    • @HatsOffYT
      @HatsOffYT 11 місяців тому

      Ive heard it runs pretty good on xbox also xbox has a built in testing thing called insiders ps5 doesnt hence why they dont have access to it

    • @sharkygaming8987
      @sharkygaming8987 11 місяців тому

      @@RustyChains I would say it runs a bit better than ps5, they have a beta while PS doesn't.

    • @HarleyMM1328
      @HarleyMM1328 11 місяців тому

      ​@@RustyChainsI have played for hours yesterday on xbox and it runs perfectly. I have heard of some having problems but I haven't had an issue and am now just even more excited for release.

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому

      @@sharkygaming8987 "By process of elimination, it has to be Xbox"

  • @jorgeocampo497
    @jorgeocampo497 11 місяців тому +1

    Bro it a beta smh

    • @davidadu8559
      @davidadu8559 11 місяців тому +7

      Bro. The game is releasing in a little more than a month, and this is the public’s first look into how the game plays. Saying that “it’s just a beta” isn’t an excuse for a poor product let alone one soon to be released.
      On top of that, they’re apparently using a build from April instead of the one playtesters went to play last month, which begs the question to whether they’re trying to sell us a worse product and disguise it as something good

    • @Raphlel
      @Raphlel 11 місяців тому

      @@davidadu8559theyre prob just hiding the rest of the content and used this so they would have the bank

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  11 місяців тому +3

      Indeed it is. The point of a beta test is to gather feedback so the devs can make necessary changes before the official launch. This is my feedback

    • @davidadu8559
      @davidadu8559 11 місяців тому

      @@RustyChains based af, thank you guys for pointing this out, cause I was skeptical about preordering this game, as to show my support to overkill and the devs. But I think this was a really good reality check for me not to go for something like that if the game may potentially be a mess

    • @davidadu8559
      @davidadu8559 11 місяців тому

      @@RustyChains I really can’t stress how thankful I am that you guys pointed this out with a huge sea of people just praising this game left right and center. Especially since one of the key reasons I wanted to buy this was to play with my girlfriend as we love playing coop games together, and I loved payday 2, and I hoped payday 3 would be a good chance for us to enjoy something together, seeing as the servers are janky, I’m just going to be a bit more hesitant and see how this issue gets resolved. Thank you rusty chains, you guys are doing gods work ❤️❤️❤️

  • @carlmwaamba9846
    @carlmwaamba9846 11 місяців тому

    I dont understand the point of half of this video.
    Im sure youre aware that the beta build is some months older then the buold you played initially. This invalidates complaints made about optimization and UI issues since you know for a fact that these have already been fixed months ago.
    In fact im shocked to see that as part of the few who did get early access, rather than calming concerns you're instead falsely giving the impression that development is going backwards.
    In regards to the other half of the video, pointing out the servers not working is fair and good. I dont however understand the entitled tone stating the servers "dont fucking work".
    You're also aware this is a technical server test, and a crucial part of development and testing is failure. Without failure, the developers wouldnt get any useful information and this whole thing would be for nothing. So if the developers were full well expecting failures i dont get why someone would be shocked or upset when there are failures.
    To reiterate, pointing out server flaws is useful, but stating the beta is in an embarassing state as if its due to incompetence, and falsely giving the impression of time moving backwards isnt helpful.
    They intentionally provided an old build with the bare minimum neccessary for us to help them test the servers, we were not promised nor entitled to anything more than that. Not even the servers working.

    • @funwithgttop3481
      @funwithgttop3481 11 місяців тому +2

      I mean Starbreeze has really hugely ruined Payday 2 along with other games they made and it's not the first time that they do that.
      Bay1k Has a Deep explanation of why it's happened.
      But to simplify whatever happened in PD3 Beta it just basically doesn't make people trust if they gonna fix and make it work.

    • @carlmwaamba9846
      @carlmwaamba9846 11 місяців тому

      @@funwithgttop3481 My point goes no further than stating that the optimization issues have been improved and we know this for a fact. What I'm talking about isn't a matter of trust.
      I'm not really interested in discussing starbreeze's competence when it comes to managing payday 3.
      I just think we should see things as how they are in the present, rather than using our past feelings about starbreeze as an excuse to invalidate any good they are doing. I don't think its really fair honestly.

    • @funwithgttop3481
      @funwithgttop3481 11 місяців тому

      @@carlmwaamba9846 You have a point and I won't argue.
      However, because of how they treated the game before, I don't trust their development much until the game is released and received an overall review.
      It might be good who knows.