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On the CS2? Definitely. Less so on the CS3. On my CS4, I use the onboard separator only and it has works great. The big question is "What filter?". The simple cotton plug is not really effective, once saturated it is just a humidifier, it cannot remove anything once its wet. A TRUE coalescing separator is perfect, but not inexpensive. I have videos on this topic, let me know if you need a hand finding them. Thank you for your comment!
@TargetForge sorry I didn't specify I'm new to the PCP. I purchased a CS4 and the filter is a 30mpa/4500psi High Pressure Air Filter, from Amazon doesn't really say what's inside for the filter material it stand up and has a drain valve.I'll be using for a Megalodon and a harpoon and I also a separate tank
Possible? Maybe. advised? No. It is SIMPLY not designed for that and will take you a VERY long time. If you must use a large bottle, get a CS4 instead. It make a LOT more sense.
The one that I bought is the 4-1 apparently that’s the newest one. As soon is parts are available, I would like to get a rebuilding kit for it. It would be great if you could let me know when they are available. Thanks, Fred .
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I had the gx1 but as a UA-camr I fill guns a lot and being in Michigan I have yet to find a compressor the will stay working in the cold. I ended up using the gx1 for target practice after it failed me in the winter cold.. it was a great compressor when I was in my house.. I'm still on the hunt for a good compressor for my channel
@@TargetForge idk.. every time I could it out into 30 or 20 degree weather is would stop pumping passed 2000 psi.. take it home clean let it warm up and it worked fine.. after about 5 time I was just over it.. but I haven't found any small compressors that work well in the cold
Since this machine is oil free and has in input particulate filter a "filter" really isn't a requirement. That being said, an effective moisture separator that has valves that can contain pressure safely, would be a great solution. There are a few on the market, but there volume is a bit large, and they are expensive. I have been trying to work some manufacturers to bring a solution to market, no luck yet.
I was heavily into PCP and sold everything twice. But..I was drawn back into the “Darkside” and bought my 3rd Marauder pistol and tank. The CS2 was suggested to me and I bought one. The CS2 fills the PRod in only 35 seconds.I keep my CS2 in a roll-around Coleman cooler.
My first compressor was the CS3 and my experience was much different. I don't have any tanks I fill my rifles directly. 1 is a Benjamin Marauder and the other is a FX Impact M3. I was a hand pumper but doing that to my FX happened exactly 1 time lol So, I ordered that CS3 and was soo happy with it for 3 days lol there was a loud clunk and the motor locked up. Amazon was going to send me a new one immediately but I opted for a refund and bought the Omega Air Charger. Its been great so far 1 year in but was like 3x the cost.
Sounds like you got one of the motors with bad heat treatment on the shaft. Some soft ones got out, and that was a shame. At least they stood by you! Like you said, quite a bit more money and in all actuality, exactly the same manufacturer.
The CS4-I is exactly the same power as the CS4. It IS 30% higher flow rate than the smaller pumps and can run longer, but is also much larger physically, so not the right choice for everyone, but defiantly pretty cool.
@@TargetForge I bought the CS4-1 and receive it 3 days a go. It is really quiet and can do 50 bar to 250 in 3 or 4 Min only. My only concern about its reliability, we have no shops here can do maintenance for such compressor.
I'm a springer guy thinking about PCPs. The added costs for refilling options is prohibitive. Air tank and compressor is gonna run $1k, + the price of the gun. $1500?????? ty
Seems like your point of view is trying to support the spinger narrative? Buy the right compressor and fill the gun directly, so no tank needed. A decent PCP can be had for sub $300. Once you have a filling solution, future PCP's are gun only costs. I love the springers too, I even still love pumpers. But few things shoot as well, or as long as a decent PCP.
@@wruehl IDK. What am I gonna do? Buy just a $200 compressor and wait 15 min to shoot. Or a $400 compressor to fill a $600 carbon fiber tank to refill quicker? I know nothing about these.
@@filoIII Not sure where your time information is coming from but in my videos, I show that a top up, on a 480cc bottle takes 6 min with an inexpensive CS2. That is less than half of your allotted budget. Having a compressor around (instead of a bottle) means that it will always be ready to go. Once a bottle gets below the fill pressure (Many guns are already at the max pressure for a bottle) the bottle is less and less effective each time it is used. That being said, a CS4-I CAN fill both, is just as portable, and is faster (~30%). The CS4-I can run for hours and fill large bottles as well. Yes, it is more expensive, but is is also water cooled, and more capable. It is also physically larger, and heavier but still capable of running on 12VDC from your vehicle, or a common wall outlet. You should follow the path that leads to happiness! Thank you for your comments!
I have a cs 3 it stopped pumping. The piston is no longer moving and when it does it jams. Taking the line off to the regulator I did find some metal shavings. What do you recommend. It's 1 5 years old with about 15 hours total run time.
The perfectly honest answer? I have no idea. If you would like to send me such a vessel I could time a fill for you. I could also come up with a fairly well guided guess. A 1 liter bottle fill from 0 to 3000psi takes ~20 min. Your vessel is smaller than that so maybe 16min? You didn't mention if you were filling from 0 or simply topping off so I made some assumptions.
I found out why my GXSC3 stopped working on me ! Only 1/2 of the mother board was soldered ! But because it was out of warranty by 2 months GX would not do anything about it even though it was clearly a manufacturing defect !!
@@TargetForge in that 14 months it only has 2 1/2 hrs on it ! And in that time the tiny bit that was soldered did not hold ! The mother board from what I was told was only soldered on one side and should have been soldered on both sides! And yes I sent GX photos of the mother board but they still refused to take care of it because it was out of warranty !
Hey Timmy, I can see you are obviously upset that you missed the warranty window. Your information is not really accurate. Single sided PCB's have been used on a LARGE scale for many decades. Simple circuits simply do not benefit from double sided PCB's. In fact the ENTIRE electronics industry has gone the opposite direction. SMT, or surface mount electronics are exclusively only soldered on one side, They MAY have parts on both sides, but the solder is single side. All that being said, the early CS3's had weak PCB's because of the design, and components used, not because of the method of manufacture. I have covered on this very channel changing that board for the new design which is VASTLY better, I even designed a bracket to make the change SUPER easy. If you do not want to order a new board, and a bracket and no longer want your CS3 I'll buy it off you and pay for shipping once I see photos of it and you supply the package dimensions and weight.
@@TargetForge my compressor is working now I got very lucky and made a new friend on one of the UA-cam videos and sent my mother board to him and he fixed it !! Thank God !! He's an electrical engineer and works on airguns and compressors ! When he checked out the mother board only 1/2 of the connections were soldered ! So he went through the motherboard and resoldered all the connections and the board works now !! It's just very disappointing that GX was not even willing to try and help me at all ! To me it's almost like the motherboard was built to fail so they could sell you a replacement motherboard or a new compressor !! It seems like nowadays no one is willing to stand behind anything they manufacture even if it's a defective part !!
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The “i” versions have the AC power supply built into the chassis and can run on 12VDC as well.
Thanks!
Thank you! You're awesome 👍😎
My pleasure! Thank YOU for the great videos and knowledge!
Do you suggest using a inline air filter with these to reduce moisture?
On the CS2? Definitely. Less so on the CS3. On my CS4, I use the onboard separator only and it has works great. The big question is "What filter?". The simple cotton plug is not really effective, once saturated it is just a humidifier, it cannot remove anything once its wet. A TRUE coalescing separator is perfect, but not inexpensive. I have videos on this topic, let me know if you need a hand finding them. Thank you for your comment!
@TargetForge sorry I didn't specify I'm new to the PCP. I purchased a CS4 and the filter is a 30mpa/4500psi High Pressure Air Filter, from Amazon doesn't really say what's inside for the filter material it stand up and has a drain valve.I'll be using for a Megalodon and a harpoon and I also a separate tank
Excellent review & help I have 1 question Is it possible for CS2 to fill a 6.8L 300bar scuba tank in breaks ??
Possible? Maybe. advised? No. It is SIMPLY not designed for that and will take you a VERY long time. If you must use a large bottle, get a CS4 instead. It make a LOT more sense.
Very good description of the models and differences. You da man Bill. Nice work yet again.😎👍💯 I love my CS-2
Awesome, thank you!
Looking into these compressors a little more and they look the same as the omega compressor that Airguns of Arizona sell..🤔
The one that I bought is the 4-1 apparently that’s the newest one. As soon is parts are available, I would like to get a rebuilding kit for it. It would be great if you could let me know when they are available. Thanks, Fred .
It will be announced right here on the channel Fred! Be sure to subscribe and help us spread the word! Also consider supporting the channel, it really does help us directly.
Great review man, are the compressors are chines made?
Yes they are
Hi can the cs4 and cs4-I fill a 9L 4500psi catbon fiber tank? For some reason the amazon description says it can fill a max 6.8L. Thanks.
Yes it can. I fill mine all the time. The guy writing the Amazon content is an idiot and knows nothing about Airguns.
Good information for me just getting started in pcp, Thanks
Best of luck!
does she come with the compressor?
Hey Bill, is there a reason you didn't mention the grease pot on the CS4?
No, no particular reason. Did you have a question about it? Call me... You are a channel bennifactor, you can do that!
@@TargetForge spec and source for grease?
Great comparison! Love my CS3!
Thank you Swampy!
Can I fill scuba tanks with that large one? For my PCP air rifles.
Certainly.
I had the gx1 but as a UA-camr I fill guns a lot and being in Michigan I have yet to find a compressor the will stay working in the cold. I ended up using the gx1 for target practice after it failed me in the winter cold.. it was a great compressor when I was in my house.. I'm still on the hunt for a good compressor for my channel
Not sure why the 1 2 or 3 would fail due to temp.
They work VERY well for my channel, they have launched tens of thousands of pellets.
@@TargetForge idk.. every time I could it out into 30 or 20 degree weather is would stop pumping passed 2000 psi.. take it home clean let it warm up and it worked fine.. after about 5 time I was just over it.. but I haven't found any small compressors that work well in the cold
@@TargetForge I'm not saying the don't im just saying they don't work well in the winter cold
@@MichiganAirgunner Looks like we might have a new test to perform on compressors!
Whats the best filter for the ac2 . Thanks and greetz
Since this machine is oil free and has in input particulate filter a "filter" really isn't a requirement. That being said, an effective moisture separator that has valves that can contain pressure safely, would be a great solution. There are a few on the market, but there volume is a bit large, and they are expensive. I have been trying to work some manufacturers to bring a solution to market, no luck yet.
It's kind of wasted to have a nice quite compressor and really loud power supply. I have one on order your link. Thanks brother.
Glad I could help
I was heavily into PCP and sold everything twice. But..I was drawn back into the “Darkside” and bought my 3rd Marauder pistol and tank. The CS2 was suggested to me and I bought one. The CS2 fills the PRod in only 35 seconds.I keep my CS2 in a roll-around Coleman cooler.
Thanks for the comment!
My first compressor was the CS3 and my experience was much different. I don't have any tanks I fill my rifles directly. 1 is a Benjamin Marauder and the other is a FX Impact M3. I was a hand pumper but doing that to my FX happened exactly 1 time lol So, I ordered that CS3 and was soo happy with it for 3 days lol there was a loud clunk and the motor locked up. Amazon was going to send me a new one immediately but I opted for a refund and bought the Omega Air Charger. Its been great so far 1 year in but was like 3x the cost.
Sounds like you got one of the motors with bad heat treatment on the shaft. Some soft ones got out, and that was a shame. At least they stood by you! Like you said, quite a bit more money and in all actuality, exactly the same manufacturer.
There is a newer version GX-E-CS4-1 as per users in UA-cam it is very powerful and quite. Appreciate if you can do a review on it.
Thanks
The CS4-I is exactly the same power as the CS4. It IS 30% higher flow rate than the smaller pumps and can run longer, but is also much larger physically, so not the right choice for everyone, but defiantly pretty cool.
@@TargetForge I bought the CS4-1 and receive it 3 days a go. It is really quiet and can do 50 bar to 250 in 3 or 4 Min only. My only concern about its reliability, we have no shops here can do maintenance for such compressor.
Is there a CS4 with integrated power supply? That would be ideal for my needs.
Not at this time. I actually LIKE not having the AC supply in the same box with the water...
That’s a good point.
Thank you for making these videos. Very helpful for determining what products are worth looking at.
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Does the CS2 come from the factory with the upgraded control board or is that something that you install?
The CS2 has no electronics at all.
@@TargetForge Of course I meant the CS3. Sorry.
My CS4 definitely makes a knocking noise as the pressure builds. Is this normal.
Without hearing it I really can't say.. perhaps you could email me a link to a video with good audio?
@@TargetForge
I will have to do that. Thanks.
Great video. What sort of water/oil separator is needed (if any) for the CS3 and CS4? Any recommendations? Thank you in advance.
There is no oil, and the built in water separators work very well.
@@TargetForgeWhere does the water go if not in the gun? Thanks!😊
I'm a springer guy thinking about PCPs. The added costs for refilling options is prohibitive. Air tank and compressor is gonna run $1k, + the price of the gun. $1500?????? ty
Seems like your point of view is trying to support the spinger narrative? Buy the right compressor and fill the gun directly, so no tank needed. A decent PCP can be had for sub $300. Once you have a filling solution, future PCP's are gun only costs. I love the springers too, I even still love pumpers. But few things shoot as well, or as long as a decent PCP.
@@wruehl IDK. What am I gonna do? Buy just a $200 compressor and wait 15 min to shoot. Or a $400 compressor to fill a $600 carbon fiber tank to refill quicker? I know nothing about these.
@@filoIII Not sure where your time information is coming from but in my videos, I show that a top up, on a 480cc bottle takes 6 min with an inexpensive CS2. That is less than half of your allotted budget. Having a compressor around (instead of a bottle) means that it will always be ready to go. Once a bottle gets below the fill pressure (Many guns are already at the max pressure for a bottle) the bottle is less and less effective each time it is used. That being said, a CS4-I CAN fill both, is just as portable, and is faster (~30%). The CS4-I can run for hours and fill large bottles as well. Yes, it is more expensive, but is is also water cooled, and more capable. It is also physically larger, and heavier but still capable of running on 12VDC from your vehicle, or a common wall outlet. You should follow the path that leads to happiness! Thank you for your comments!
I have a cs 3 it stopped pumping. The piston is no longer moving and when it does it jams. Taking the line off to the regulator I did find some metal shavings. What do you recommend. It's 1 5 years old with about 15 hours total run time.
That sounds like a warranty replacement. I hope you purchased it with Amazon.
@TargetForge yes with Amazon but was 1.5 years ago.
Does warranty still apply
Bought another compressor to get me by, but would like to fix this one if possible.
This might have already been answered but how long does it take to fill a 48Ci/3000psi tank
The perfectly honest answer? I have no idea. If you would like to send me such a vessel I could time a fill for you. I could also come up with a fairly well guided guess. A 1 liter bottle fill from 0 to 3000psi takes ~20 min. Your vessel is smaller than that so maybe 16min? You didn't mention if you were filling from 0 or simply topping off so I made some assumptions.
I hope it works... I just ordered one lol
I found out why my GXSC3 stopped working on me ! Only 1/2 of the mother board was soldered ! But because it was out of warranty by 2 months GX would not do anything about it even though it was clearly a manufacturing defect !!
Do you have pictures?
You're saying it worked for 14 months with no solder?
@@TargetForge in that 14 months it only has 2 1/2 hrs on it ! And in that time the tiny bit that was soldered did not hold ! The mother board from what I was told was only soldered on one side and should have been soldered on both sides! And yes I sent GX photos of the mother board but they still refused to take care of it because it was out of warranty !
Hey Timmy, I can see you are obviously upset that you missed the warranty window. Your information is not really accurate. Single sided PCB's have been used on a LARGE scale for many decades. Simple circuits simply do not benefit from double sided PCB's. In fact the ENTIRE electronics industry has gone the opposite direction. SMT, or surface mount electronics are exclusively only soldered on one side, They MAY have parts on both sides, but the solder is single side. All that being said, the early CS3's had weak PCB's because of the design, and components used, not because of the method of manufacture. I have covered on this very channel changing that board for the new design which is VASTLY better, I even designed a bracket to make the change SUPER easy. If you do not want to order a new board, and a bracket and no longer want your CS3 I'll buy it off you and pay for shipping once I see photos of it and you supply the package dimensions and weight.
@@TargetForge my compressor is working now I got very lucky and made a new friend on one of the UA-cam videos and sent my mother board to him and he fixed it !!
Thank God !! He's an electrical engineer and works on airguns and compressors ! When he checked out the mother board only 1/2 of the connections were soldered ! So he went through the motherboard and resoldered all the connections and the board works now !! It's just very disappointing that GX was not even willing to try and help me at all ! To me it's almost like the motherboard was built to fail so they could sell you a replacement motherboard or a new compressor !! It seems like nowadays no one is willing to stand behind anything they manufacture even if it's a defective part !!