Mega Coilpack Test and Comparison R35, LS1, LQ9, Audi R8 and more - Platinum Tech
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2019
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After showcasing the R35 coilpack kits from PRP, you wanted to see how and why the R35 was tested and chosen as the best coilpack for PRP kits. This mega test ranks 16 popular coilpacks
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Mind blown, his technical ability and precision is taking over UA-cam. In sure the little kids don't dig it, but coming with hard core facts and accuracy is what the people want.
Idk about taking over UA-cam and people being mad
At the price point nothing beats the r8 coils they use to actually be $25 a pack now they are $30. Most these other packs are $50-$100 a pack.
OMG YES! This is what I've been waiting for! No wonder it took so long to produce, this is a massive amount of data. Thank you so much!
Thanks for the video and hard work on the tests.
I like your approach to this. No more internet fanboy hype and hearsay. These are the facts, mmkay?
omg you guys are putting out pure gold recently. invaluable info you won't get anywhere else. thanks a lot!
Thank you guys for all the testing, working and releasing the info for free. I know where Im getting my kit when it comes time.
This test remains the gold standard.
Would love to see a test between the various different R8 coils on the market. Specifically the Denso, NGK and Bosch. non of which appears to have been the coil used in this test.
and the Benchmark ones as they make some big claims with very little real world data
as always you guys make amazing videos!! dropping that knowledge
This is how you get credibility - thorough in house testing AND showing results of said testing. I bought a platinum racing coil kit for my RB26 last year and I've recommended it to others. Particularly like the custom O ringed stalks, so it fits nicely under the stock cover and prevents gunk getting down there.
Did you get to do a dyno test before and after?
Changing the coils shouldn't net any power gains on their own, unless you were suffering from misfires beforehand. It will however let you make more power, or run a larger plug gap. They will also probably be more reliable as you dont have to push them as hard to get them to spark and you know exactly how close you are to their limit if PRP provides you with a dwell details.
@@tx5brent As all internal combustion engines do, even if you don't hear the engine misfire. If you can increase the burn efficiency on the power stroke, do you think it would result in better power?
@@tx5brent You can get increased power from a better spark, even if you werent misfiring before. Better burn can increase power. May not always do it, but can.
Caribbean GTR Beyond proper ignition from a sufficient spark, combustion efficiency and power output have nothing to do with spark energy.
This is excellent! Your hard work is appreciated! Great video!
Great info guys! Glad I went with the Hitachi R35 coils on my RB26 build!
Very interesting! Love tech stuff like this.
Thanks once again for the efforts, awesome information as usual! Keep it up!
Awesome test! Really learning alot from Herman through your channel.
Man the videos you guys are pushing out, fkn quality and relevance....
Thank you for the in depth technical reviews. I appreciate these deep technical videos!
I absolutely geek on this kind of thing man. Absolutely geek. Thank you.
Supert! Thank`s for hard work done by you guys!!!
Thank you for this. Excellent information!
I did the LS1 coil swap on my 25 about 7 years ago, I've had zero issues but there's obviously better options now, as happens with everything
This video is very informative. Thank you for creating!
So glad you looked at this with cost in mind.
Yes r35 coils are the best but are very expensive. 90% of builds do need them at most people are only sub 500hp..
thanks for all the hard work on this!
Incredible work guys. Been waiting for someone to do this testing. Didn't expect anything this comprehensive though! Would be amazing if you could release the full data sets somewhere.
Would also be awesome to do a second round oincluding packs like Subaru, Honda, Mitsubishi, etc. I know it has to make monetary sense though, so hopefully this video does very well for you. :)
That is some intense and useful research. It will benefit you and your customers. And us, because you shared it. Thanks
Awesome work👌 mega props for that test rig too
Great video! Learning is cool!
Thanks for the hard work on the testing!!!!!!! Awesome info :)
thank you!
Well done. Very much appreciate the genuine data.
Awesome, thanks for sharing this info with us...
Thank You for your hard guys !
Good test, We run the R35's on stock coils up to around 2200whp, Above this on Methanol we swap to plug wires with dedicated coils.
beautiful thing aren't they cheers
Great information. This will save a lot of frustration if someone is turning up the boost only to get spark breakdown.
dropping relevant facts and figures 👍
This is great stuff! I'm excited for my new prp r35 coil kit for my r32 gtr!
Good video
Keep it up guys
ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS video to watch!!! Thanks for all the work you guys provide!
On a side note, guys, would you do a CRANKSHAFT comparison video of RB25/26/30 vs 1/2JZ????
It would be very interesting to see the material and all the journal dimensions!?
Thanks man appreciate that, and yes crank comp vid would be cool, we could do rb 25 vs 1J and RB30 vs 2J maybe
Had problems with the dwell on my Yaris coils on my 1JZ when it was first tuned. The car never ran right and I had to head back to the tuner to get the dwell adjusted. I also had one coil crack where the mounting bolt goes. Though they're performing fine for my needs currently, R35 coils and new brackets would be the go. The only downside as said in this video is cost. Great video anyway, thanks for going to this effort.
It would be great to see where the Honda k series coils sit in this range, it would be another "cheap" option for more moderate power builds
Awesome!
Would be great if you could compare the VW TFSI black coil (07K....) to the R8 (06E...) coil. It's a hot topic in VW circles. Everyone thinks the black ones are the same output as the R8 ones, but after seeing this, I'm not so sure now. Great work!
I would also like to see Ford and msd coil pack
No, TSI (NGK U5002) and R8 Coil is not interchangeable. But TSI is not bad ( less power than R8), i am using him in R34 RB Neo. Reason: Old coilpack is break down and TSI is good and cheap replacing for him.
The 07L eldor is the latest revision of the same coil I'm running them in my gtr I would like to see a test done on them as I was advised highest spark output overall in the Audi/ vw vag coils
Brilliant!
you guys are awesome
Absolute legends! Love these tests! Ls iron block test next please!
Yes, that's a good one. Would love to know how an actual LSX block compares to an LQ9 or similar
That'll never happen on this channel...
@@clutchkickpj693 Got that right and nobody even cares such comparison at this channel.😆
Quality stuff guys, do you reckon you could do a video on the various 4 pole wasted spark coil packs like the EJ25 and VAG Bosch items?
Thank you!!
I just bought a set of the audi r8 coils. I'm only trying to make 650rwhp, so these should be fine for that. Thanks for the video.
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Can confirm the same findings, new R8 genuine coils are 25eur each, you can buy from anywhere, can't beat the performance to price :) Another nice thing they have over-dwell protection build-in that will NOT initiate a spark at the wrong time and destroy your engine like the LS "smart" coils
What dwell time is recommended for the R8 coils anyway?
Anything between 2-5ms will work reliably fine to 10k rpm 4cyl 4 stroke engine. Generally is a straight swap without the need to change the factory dwell table. Here is the table i made and use for aftermarket ecus: imgur.com/aqxHYiQ
You mean LS "crazy" coils.. Seen two engines go boom because the coils started to fail.. One car blew its entire muffler system off due to a severe misfire and broke the oil pump shaft due to kickback. :(
@@robssm2 yes those;p
Great info! Wished you did Honda k series coil
Absolutely cracking video god knows why I just found it but I’m glad . So what kind of upgraded trigger wires for the AEM/HALTEC coil as I would like to know if I could use one on the 125/250 cbr bikes ?
an overall fantastic job taking the time to go through all these coils in such a well-organised test setup, only thing which would have been nice to follow up on was at the beginning of the video there were talks about specifics such as what coil could output certain dwell ms and performance at different plug gaps etc, but all came "rushed up" in the end. id be really interested to see just what the "internet" lists as respectable dwell times for these coils compared to the real-world testbench setup, a great example would be those d595 lq9 coils apparently going trigger happy with some dwell lol
some valid points, we were surprised to discover that lq9 auto fired, but advertised dwell was in some cases no where near the actual, none the less very little data available until now :)
Glad I'm running AEM Smart Coils!!!
Also the AEM Dumb Coils put out 117mj but requires ignitor.
Well done PRP! i gave you shit on the other video for not putting up the info and now you have come thru! very professional stuff and nice work! Thx Andrew for the vid.
Thanks Andrew, glad we have built up a little trust now :)
Herman Urriola no i meant “thanks Andrew” as in hawko for the vid but thank you Herm for the great info! very well done. You def gain trust by backing up what you said and you did that, alot of places talk the talk but dont back it up! Thx Herm!
Great Great useful info, thanks a lot :)
Im on my 3 car on the R8 coils, and they are great, never had any issues :)
Whats the part number if you dont mind me asking???
@@drrolle3277 just google: R8 coils
@@LarsFuglsang I did... Alot on ebay... i just want the reliable coilpack and not a nock off...
@@drrolle3277 then order from VW
FWIW i have a Yaris as my daily (love this car) and it usually runs around 13.8 volts
Fuck I love this!
No frills, no bullshit, just numbers and definitive results!
I come back to this video sometimes. Could you test beru, okada and ignition projects coils please?
Herman Urriola ,
Great informative video.
Very thorough as are all of your tests.
But the question that everyone wants to know,
Who is the Australian supplier of the R35 Coil Packs???????????
Awesome video! Nice work guys!
You legend!
It would have been nice if you could have also tested factory SR20 coils so we could see the difference between it and the SR20 splitfire.
First time commenting. Very good video
Would be interesting if you make a rig for the spark plug so u can pressure it up to the cylinder pressure with the added boost and see what it does. I was thinking about making a test rig up to do this using a Ralston Nitro pack to regulate and control pressure into the best rig. Then repeat the same test you have done
Really interesting test. Could you also test stock OEM 2JZ coil and other VAG coils as well?
I second that
I've done similar tests. What total voltage is the zener diode string on the secondary side? Mine came to a measured 1700V. One coil you left out is ICE Ignition's LS coil. 144 mJ at 10 amps primary current.
It would be interesting to see some testing on the golf gti golf R ea888evo3 engine of the 7th gen golf. Those are Bosch Motorsport products and are very powerful
Was there ever an id on the 6th place r35 Australian copy coils? Seem worth running if they are a decent amount cheaper than the other r35 ones.
I am using Bosch P65 coil, they are rated up peak 88mJ, Bosch provide data chart for dwell time, and they are not expecive, Around £40 each in UK.
What about a oil filled coil that you find on a old school car? How well do those test out
Thanks Andrew and Herman! Really great content and as an electrical engineer I have nothing to comment on the tests, very well executed. One question: are you guys open to share the dwell settings of each coil?
Someone who actually knows about electrical systems agrees with us, yet we still get people who claim to know more from watching other youtube videos. Welcome to the internet :)
+1 dwell times would be very beneficial
Do you guys have any opinion on the Okada/Ignition Project Coilpacks for the RB26? Both the Type V oem style coil and Type R Pencil Stick Coil Type? Thanks!
little confused you mention 11th place the D595 whats the difference between that and the D585?
Great video. I'd like to see how Okada Projects or Ignition Projects compares.
Good luck. It's a prp advert.
How? PRP doesn't make any of the coils listed.
9:30 Also check your R8 coils if are genuine, these could be from the dealership, but generally they will be laser marked. Better to try one from the suppliers, NGK U5014 is this case just to make sure. But from my own tests your energy measured is about right :) (need to find my old excels:p)
St0RM33 Would not buy anything else but the NGK U5014 with the proper marking.
What was the dwell time of the Hitachi R35 coil pack to get the 54mj and how long did you run that dwell for?
Hello what is the part# for Yaris Bosch Coil? thank you
Can you post the details info on the coil pack, ag dwell time.
Thanks
wish you guys had test it a Honda k20 or s2000 denso coilpack.
can you guys test the precision raceworks coils for bmw? they claim 118mj and 3.7ms Dwell Saturation Point
I'd really like to see this compared to an msd 6al digital box with the MSD Blaster 2 coil. they advertise 135 to 145mj @12-14.4v. many people have tried to convince me to go to coil packs... I understand the sequential side of it but other than that when you just look at it from a spark output point. The coil packs can't even touch it especially when you factor in the price vs price.
That Herman is a bright spark :)
ohh that is nice, I'm just a normal guy that loves what he does, cheers mate
@@hermanurriola138 I appreciate the effort that you put in to properly test these products as I'm sure the viewers and your customers do :)
I need the info for the ampefi coils (smart snd dumb) hope they are in this shootout. Currently have r8 coils on my m3. Dam.... they are the champs. 102mj
Hey Guys.
Are the Australian R35 copies still available and if so who through?
Thanks in advance.
What would you recommend for a high power evo at a reasonable cost?
Such an great video, what effect would it have changing the plugs to a type that had more internal resistance ? The reason I ask is my stock plugs are 1000ohms but everyone is running the HKS super fire plugs with 5000ohms. Would we see more spark energy (to the limits of the coil) due to the fact it has to overcome total resistance ( spark plug resistance and air gap?)
The resistor is there to limit the spark current to suppress interference.
Would you test MSD coilpack in the next test?
What coils would you recommend for a Honda accord 2004 2.4 engine four-cylinder
you should test the presicion coils ls style for bmw they claim 128mj
Fun fact: Those R35 coils can also be found from 1.6 DIG-T engines. For European guys it's great news, as you can find those coils from Renault too, sourcing those coils shouldn't be too hard..
They look like the same as the coils on a lot of late model nissans, same module just slightly different moulding and stalk. Good news if you can get decent coils from any wreckers for next to nothing.
Havent been able to find hanshin or hitachi anywhere online here in eu.
@@midgrave Autodoc has Hitachi ones.
V3N0M Hitachi Europe does not sell IGC0079. So if you want to buy from Europe your only option is Genuine Nissan.
nice to see real life figures.would have liked to see the max dwell time of each coil though
Can you guys test out the factory 2jz Supra coils a please
What was the current draw of the Bosch Toyota vs the Hitachi R35 coils BTW?
Anything different with the rb25det neo coils? I.e oem,splitfire
Excellent .want to see how the honda K series one do too
RSA DYNAMICS Or J-Series. We have guys pushing them to 1000whp + on stock packs.
Checkout my channel J32a3 on 8psi making 580whp+ 👍🏻😏
@@HalferLandPerformance the ignition / Motive guys did an amazing job I don't wish to discredit anything they've done by asking them to do the k series coils .Yes I have seen the stock K series coils supply a great spark to 1000bhp+ builds
just curious, was that R8 coil genuine? it might be just the shot, but the top looks blank where it should have parts numbers etc, commonly seen on knock offs.
at the end of the day the car's ecu will decide the voltage etc based on the map?
Do coil packs degrade over time, or perform like new until failure?
Have u guys tested a VR6 block?