The Merchant then turned that 1 million septims into 3.7 billion septims. The cost apparently that he would forever be smeared as an agent of the Thalmor.
@Basically I'm Schlorping my best friend died of covid I loved her and was eventually going to ask her to marry me but I can't now I've got nothing left to live for
Yes and no, they both appear to be *of* Clavicus, Barbas having been made from Vile's his power and essence after Clavicus already existed but they are separate entities with separate thoughts and ideas that merely act in tandem as equals.
I think of them as the little devil and little angel that show up on your shoulder to tell you what you should do. Listening to one ends badly, and listening to the other ends okay or well.
I personally have always taken the mask. Never once have I gotten the axe except through a cheat code, and I’m actually glad for that. I like Barbas as a character, despite the short time you get to know him.
David Potts Good on you, because, fun fact, choosing the rueful axe over the masque locks you out of the Oblivion Walker achievement if you haven’t already lost that opportunity. In other words, by the achievement system’s standards, the rueful axe doesn’t count as a daedric artifact.
Joshua Slowpoke yep, I found that out after searching up the axe after taking the mask. It’s kind of stupid though if you ask me. It’s handed to you by a Daedric Prince, and made by him, yet it’s not a Deadeic item? Explanation needed lol
Because the axe sucks, hence the name. What's that, you were hoping to get 100% achievement and you already saved? Well I bet you *rue* trusting Clavicus, huh?
The first time I did this quest, I looked up the rewards for this quest. I will *_never_* take the axe. *_EVER._* I mean seriously, 20 points of stamina damage? That's it? Absolute weaksauce.
@@mehlessmidori602it's also the slowest two handed weapon in the game iirc. Or at least the slowest battleaxe. Weirdly enough it's also my favourite weapon appearance in the game. Like if forsworn could forge steel. And it's all shiny, I like to imagine it's made with silver for slaying werewolves. But yeah, I typically choose the mask because I usually play moral characters who don't kill for no reason.
Vile keeps his deals from his own volition, the same can not be said about Loki. Loki usually only upheld his part of deals when he was forced to by more powerful gods or other beings. Though Loki wasn't a pseudo-god, as far as I'm aware, he was no less a god than Thor or Odin. Vile seems to have less of a disposition towards tricking the other daedric princes, more concerned with mortals, unlike Loki. Apart from this, there are some similarities, but the comparison with traditional tales of the devil seem more apt, considering Vile's obsession with deals and his willingness to strike deals that aren't favorable to him.
I just keep barbas and never go after the axe would you rather have an immortal dog companion WHO TALKS , or a unique axe or a weird mask that's scares shopkeepers into giving you a small amount of leverage
Well the elves are the aggressors. If they continue to export good to Tamriel, the Imperials can just raise the tax on the imported goods and bam. Or better yet, just withdraw the financial aid for the Thalmor (since they are trying to destroy the Imperials anyways) and use it instead. Just a couple years worth will pay for it.
@@DanWeeks Sparta's destruction and the weakening of the Aetolian League was mainly a matter of natural disasters and certainly the inspiration of Red Mountain.
Clavicus vile:”As much as I hate to admit it your almost as powerful as I am right now” Me at level 4: If this is half the power of a Daedric Prince why the hell is everyone so impressed by them
It's because Vile has his power cut down to a quarter he lost quite a bit of his power when Umbrial was taken from him and then Barbus is about half of his power left so he only had about a quarter of his power left so you have half of a quarter of Viles power.
I think a worst deal is completing the quest, since barbas is taken away. Hes invincible and not a "companion" you have to worry about when it comes to dying. Plus who doesn't want a dog!
His barking is annoying but the WORST thing is that he keeps pushing me when I'm trying to operate something or pick something up. Sometimes he gets stuck somewhere and I have to backtrack and find him. He doesn't do well crossing deep water or steep areas. I hate his human voice. He drives me nuts. However, he's faithful, invincible and he's got my back in battle. I'm keeping him for a while. At least I don't have to pick up his poop.
@@rachelgonzalez8051 I was SO happy to get rid of Barbas because that fucker blocked me too much wherever I went. I got tired of him after a while so I completed the mission but I got the mask because I couldn't bring myself to kill Barbas despite how much he annoyed me.
Harry Cope you have to already own a house with a weapon rack (I used breezehome, it's the most reliable) and you have to have the axe In your hand. Jump on top of his head (facing toward the back exit with the gate already open) and talk to him, pick the dialogue option to give him back the axe and get the mask, as soon as he starts the dialogue, exit out of the conversation and run out the door (note you should NOT be able to move your camera after a very short time after exiting dialogue, that's normal don't worry). As soon as you load up outside go to your map and fast travel to the city (or location) with your house. He should still be talking at this point. Once you load up, run into your house, you _should_ now be able to move your camera, turn to your weapon rack and put the axe on it. If you did it right you should get a message saying it was removed from your inventory and that the mask was added, you now have both. Note you have quite a short amount of time to complete these steps as it's just the time it'd take the dialogue if you stayed in the cave with him.
Was it just me or did anyone else pause for a minute and think wtf, when he said "either way the story ended happily when she grew up and enacted revenge, killing her neglectful baren father" ...not exact words dispite the quotations but still I would not classify that as a happy ending
barbas and clavicus don't really as much share power. it's more like they're really the same entity metaphysically. Barbas is the part of the whole which is most reasonable of the two. as we see in skyrim, when you make a deal with barbas, he upholds his end of the bargain exactly as you expect him to, provided that you don't kill him. and even when barbas' power returns to clavicus and he absorbs him for a time being, he is still reasonable and lets you keep the axe if you "killed" barbas. Barbas is to calvicus what jiminy cricket is to pinochio. The reason why i say this is because daedric princes are singularities. they don't share their sphere, they are their sphere, if you mantled him like you do with sheogorath in oblivion, you'd still get a barbas. Barbas is the machiavelli of bargains, reasonable and only acts in the best interest of his other half and partner clavicus, even if it is against clavicus' wishes. and clavicus acts on whim and emotions that occur in the moment. One thinks long term consequences and benefit, the other just the immediate satisfaction. And aren't these the very corner stones of bargains? when you deal with clavicus, you want the immediate satisfaction, and you're going to be dealing with the side which is just as interested with the immediate reward he will get should he double cross you. Which is why deals with barbas, always end up better for the individual.
Save for a theif, Barbas also makes a good temporary "follower". He will attack enemies for you (even when you don't want to engage them...) & he has a decent amount of health. Also, unlike Vigilance, he won't die. If his health gets low enough he'll run away but he won't die.
"By all means let's hear it, since you helped me grant one final wish for my last worshipers. They were suffering so from vampirism and begged me for a cure. Then you came and ended their misery! I couldn't have planned it better myself." Technically.. they WERE cured of vampirism.. when their limbs and heads came off.
Very good. I love these lore videos they are very well sourced and the theories are educated also. One of my favorite parts of The Elder Scrolls games is when you meet the Daedra like Clavicus and Mora and instead of demanding service or worship they simply offer a deal to the player. I enjoy stories in which mortals attempt to usurp powers or forces out of their control and these actions ultimately end in their demise. Good work. Aside from the build videos these are my favorites coming out from you guys.
Name of Twardowski was Jan (John in ENG version). Pan means something like Sir or Mr. Pan Twardowski = Sir Twardowski. And he really existed. Twardowski was spiritist and occultist on court of king Zygmunt August. He tried to summom the spirit of his dead wife - Barbara Radziwiłłówna.
the elder council is like the English parliament? cyrodil is more similiar to the Holy roman empire. Sure, the emperors in charge, but he stays in his tower, with counts really running the show.
Fun fact, the modern appearance of the devil in Christian mythology having horns, hooves, etc. was actually a direct reference to Dionysus who was a very popular god of worship during the time of early Christianity. He was the god of wine (among other things) and was commonly depicted with horns and hanging around satyrs. Satyrs, or fauns, were small humanoids with horns, tails, and hooves. It was pretty much a very successful religious smear campaign.
The bible specifically states that Lucifer is incredibly beautiful. Also, literally EVERYTHING in Christianity is a smear campaign. Christmas was stolen from the Germans; Jesus was born in April. Hallowe'en was stolen from the Irish; they celebrated it long before the English became Christian. The entire Christian religion is just a mutilated form of Judaism.
Are you sure it wasn't pan? That's what I remember, also the fact of Satan being a punisher comes from Hades I believe. Just the punisher of souls, Hades does not equal the Devil ( Unlike what some people believe.
@@briarrosegael2015 Hades doesn't even punish people. He just rules the Underworld (which in Greek mythology is ALSO named Hades). He is just the king of death, but Lucifer is actually a prisoner of Hell. Rather than rule it, he the devil was sent to Hell to be punished. Also the word "Hell" comes from the Norse word "Hel" (only one L) which is their version of the Underworld and is also the name of the Goddess of Death.
Honestly, I just got that from a documentary and then a Lindsay Ellis video, I think it's like he was to send them to were they were punished like asphodel or Elysium. I can't remember is Helheim even a place of punishment? Norse Mythology's afterlife is overrated, spend your whole life fighting, then die in battle, only to spend the rest of your life preparing for some fight were you die for a second time. I think you even do that in Helheim.
@@briarrosegael2015 Helheim isn't a punishment technically, but anyone sent there will "never feel joy again". Anyone who did NOT die in battle will go to Helheim. Disease, old age, even criminals go there at death. Anyone deemed to not be a "true warrior".
since you wanted to do an example of the book "Pan Twardowski" a small disclaimer. Pan is just a polish word for Mister. which would be easier to understand for everyone else, who doesn't get the polish language (since Pan typically is a Faun for english speaking people)
As I mentioned to another Polish speaking poster, my grandmother passed away before I could learn more from her. The few Polish words I know are mostly slang I think.
Umbriel was heading straight for the white gold tower, if it had connected with it, the sword with Clavicus' power would have been able to use the tower to open an portal allowing Clavicus through
The_Drop Bear Clav is one of the underrated Deadric prince in ESO. Not knowing his full potential treat to Nirn. You can read that story in an Elder Scrolls Novel: The Infernal City. In regards of that Umbriel escaping Clav, using it's power to embody itself without Clav's help, and other crazt shit including having the floating city of Umbriel atop Cyrodil in which conceive of potential treat. Good story for the next eso
Fun fact: if you claim the Rueful Axe instead of the Masque of Clavicus Vile in Skyrim, it won’t count toward the achievement for getting all of the daedric artifacts (assuming your version of the game has achievements at all). In other words, keeping the rueful axe and killing Barbas locks you out of the Oblivion Walker achievement.
In the legend Faust actually sucsseded and his soul went to heaven.Also he made the deall with Mephistopheles,not the Devil.In old slavic tales the devil is a much nicer guy who actually commends mortals that beat him instead of killing them or what not.
Gotta agree, the ruler of the underworld used to be much cooler in Estonia as well, our myths and stories speak of how peasant Estonians would summon the devil and outsmart him.
QorinHalfhand. I mean, outside of the apple (if it is was him), he did nothing wrong. No killing just for lulz (like in ot,when the god took everything from a man to proove that he is loved by a man anyway), no mass murdering of innocent, no orders for mass murder of innocent, ext
In the adaptation by Goethe he makes it into heaven, but in the legends and folktales that Goethe took inspiration from he goes straight to the bad place.
Clavicus vile and barbas im pretty sure represent loki and fenrir. Compare fenrirs Celtic stories and barbas heak even the shape shifting. Just my opinion.
Its funny how Clavicus prides himself on duping people into a sour bargain, and then you can come along and bug the game using the Slow Time shout at the end of his quest and dupe him into giving you the mask whilst you keep the axe as well. I guess even Daedras are no match for shoddy programming...
I know the world is primarily influenced by Christianity so I understand automatically thinking horns=evil, but a long time ago horns were portrayed on many pagan gods, not as a symbol of darkness or evil but as a symbol of strength, masculinity, and protectiveness.
I like to think Barbas is adventurer of old. The prehistorical champion who made a tricky deal with Clavicus and forced him to share his power. But then daedra played his usual part and turned the smart as in to his loyal servant. (Mirak's case but played in Vile's style)
Hah the way you use "Pan" is funny, as it translates to Mister. So that is not in fact the characters first name, but the title, making the translation "Mr. Twardowski". The W's in his last name are also pronounced more like F's instead. Great videos by the way!
The rueful axe is a 4th wall breaking bad weapon. The character is screwed out of a good weapon and the player misses out on an achievement. I think it is intentional for the weapon to be this useless to the character and player.
Guys, "Pan" is actually polish for "Sir" or "Mister", it's not a name. Twardowski the fictional character's first name is never revealed. That said, the real 16th century nobleman that this character is believed to be based on was named Jan Twardowski, the guy was a court warlock (!) in the court of polish king Sigismund Augustus the 2nd ;D
I've always seen Vile and Barbas as two halves of one entity, neither any more valid than the other-- a joint prince. I don't think they've ever been truly one, nor truly sovereign of eachother. In a way, it's kind of like the aspects of Hircine, perhaps.
Great video, I loved the mythology explanation. Compared to Gauthie O'Dimm Clavicus Vile is still a cutepie. One thing made me laugh hard, though, as well as many Polish speakers. Pan Twardowski actually translates to Mr Twardowski. It is not a name...
Morogoth The fact that this person thinks that I'm spreading lies while in fact it was only an assumption. This is not a "High Rock for ES6" propaganda. Clavicus Vile had become one of the major Daedra that is operating in High Rock due to their politics and trade
On the subject of devils, deals, deceptions, and dogs, there is a legend in Wales, known as the Devil's Bridge. The story goes, that an old woman needed to cross a river/ravine, so the devil appeared, and offered to create a bridge for her to cross. The price being the soul of the first mortal to cross it. She agreed to this, and when the bridge was in place, she threw a loaf of bread across the bridge, bating a dog to cross first. The devil did not claim the dog's soul, and since then two more bridges have been built over the original Devil's Bridge.
I like to go get the ax and then leave it on my wall and that way I can go pick up Barbies whenever I want to hang out with them so it's like I have half the gods power.
possible reason such authority is the way of tamriel... autocrats require divine right. and I daresay the amulet of kings is pretty compelling. considering what happens when the legitimate lines are brought down.
like they don't have an option... monarchy=strong and fast reactions to immediate threats. and when a threat can literally appear from a portal in your city, saying fuck off to any fortifications or defenses in the event that throne isn't properly occupied...
Small loan of a million septims.
The Merchant then turned that 1 million septims into 3.7 billion septims.
The cost apparently that he would forever be smeared as an agent of the Thalmor.
@Desecration and he owes around $300 million septims to the thalmor hierarchy
Grab her by the sweet roll
You thought that was funny years ago. Look where he got us now
@Basically I'm Schlorping my best friend died of covid I loved her and was eventually going to ask her to marry me but I can't now I've got nothing left to live for
The Tale of The Trickster Boi and The Good Boye.
I always assumed that Vile and Barbas were the same entity, just two sides of him. Like Barbas an embodiment of his conscience
Yes and no, they both appear to be *of* Clavicus, Barbas having been made from Vile's his power and essence after Clavicus already existed but they are separate entities with separate thoughts and ideas that merely act in tandem as equals.
I think of them as the little devil and little angel that show up on your shoulder to tell you what you should do. Listening to one ends badly, and listening to the other ends okay or well.
I personally have always taken the mask. Never once have I gotten the axe except through a cheat code, and I’m actually glad for that. I like Barbas as a character, despite the short time you get to know him.
David Potts Good on you, because, fun fact, choosing the rueful axe over the masque locks you out of the Oblivion Walker achievement if you haven’t already lost that opportunity. In other words, by the achievement system’s standards, the rueful axe doesn’t count as a daedric artifact.
Joshua Slowpoke yep, I found that out after searching up the axe after taking the mask. It’s kind of stupid though if you ask me. It’s handed to you by a Daedric Prince, and made by him, yet it’s not a Deadeic item? Explanation needed lol
Because the axe sucks, hence the name.
What's that, you were hoping to get 100% achievement and you already saved? Well I bet you *rue* trusting Clavicus, huh?
The first time I did this quest, I looked up the rewards for this quest.
I will *_never_* take the axe. *_EVER._*
I mean seriously, 20 points of stamina damage? That's it? Absolute weaksauce.
@@mehlessmidori602it's also the slowest two handed weapon in the game iirc. Or at least the slowest battleaxe. Weirdly enough it's also my favourite weapon appearance in the game. Like if forsworn could forge steel. And it's all shiny, I like to imagine it's made with silver for slaying werewolves. But yeah, I typically choose the mask because I usually play moral characters who don't kill for no reason.
Clavicus Vile: *Entire gimmick is that he makes deals with mortals*
Clavicus Vile: *Doesn't read the fine print*
They say the cobbler's children have no shoes.
Vile seems a lot more like the Norse pseudo-god Loki than the devil
No comments on this? Yeah u might have a point.
Vile keeps his deals from his own volition, the same can not be said about Loki. Loki usually only upheld his part of deals when he was forced to by more powerful gods or other beings. Though Loki wasn't a pseudo-god, as far as I'm aware, he was no less a god than Thor or Odin. Vile seems to have less of a disposition towards tricking the other daedric princes, more concerned with mortals, unlike Loki. Apart from this, there are some similarities, but the comparison with traditional tales of the devil seem more apt, considering Vile's obsession with deals and his willingness to strike deals that aren't favorable to him.
He gets a lot of shit confused.
Like the Eden story where the "devil" "tricked" Eve into eating the fruit. Literally didn't happen that way.
The devil was originally a trickster spirit like Loki but Catholics twisted the scripture. He is even only mentioned 4 times.
@@dreadedworld8864Have you read the Scriptures, the evil one or Satan is mentioned hundreds of times in the Old Testament.
I just keep barbas and never go after the axe would you rather have an immortal dog companion WHO TALKS , or a unique axe or a weird mask that's scares shopkeepers into giving you a small amount of leverage
The.Inferno for me? Mask is for me
We must save my family!!!
if you get this reference I love you.
It is from the much superior remake of SAO
I'm going to build a wall and make the high elves pay for it all! With these big hands let's make Tamriel great again!
Well the elves are the aggressors. If they continue to export good to Tamriel, the Imperials can just raise the tax on the imported goods and bam. Or better yet, just withdraw the financial aid for the Thalmor (since they are trying to destroy the Imperials anyways) and use it instead. Just a couple years worth will pay for it.
Skyrim would make the elves pay for a wall the same way the Spartans did to the Persians: With their own broken bodies.
@@DanWeeks Sparta's destruction and the weakening of the Aetolian League was mainly a matter of natural disasters and certainly the inspiration of Red Mountain.
Clavicus vile:”As much as I hate to admit it your almost as powerful as I am right now”
Me at level 4: If this is half the power of a Daedric Prince why the hell is everyone so impressed by them
That shouldn't be possible...
It's because Vile has his power cut down to a quarter he lost quite a bit of his power when Umbrial was taken from him and then Barbus is about half of his power left so he only had about a quarter of his power left so you have half of a quarter of Viles power.
You have to be lvl 10 to start that quest. Which to be fair, still isnt terribly high.
So when making deals with Clavicus Vile, you have to be extremely specific and leave no room for interpretation.
Hire a good lawyer...
@@dravenocklost4253 Yes, bringing him a snack may be a good idea.
Clavicus Vile, the Corporate Lawyer.
I think a worst deal is completing the quest, since barbas is taken away. Hes invincible and not a "companion" you have to worry about when it comes to dying.
Plus who doesn't want a dog!
Christoper Ramirez i find a bork bork every 45 seconds ruins the immersion
well yea that true, but i still like the idea of a dog, and the other ones you can find die way to quick.
I always lost him and had to go looking for him. Useless.
His barking is annoying but the WORST thing is that he keeps pushing me when I'm trying to operate something or pick something up. Sometimes he gets stuck somewhere and I have to backtrack and find him. He doesn't do well crossing deep water or steep areas. I hate his human voice. He drives me nuts. However, he's faithful, invincible and he's got my back in battle. I'm keeping him for a while. At least I don't have to pick up his poop.
@@rachelgonzalez8051 I was SO happy to get rid of Barbas because that fucker blocked me too much wherever I went. I got tired of him after a while so I completed the mission but I got the mask because I couldn't bring myself to kill Barbas despite how much he annoyed me.
Follows Barbus for an hour. Gets useless mask. “This has got to be the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals maybe ever”
Master of Honor187 I always get both items
how?
Harry Cope you have to already own a house with a weapon rack (I used breezehome, it's the most reliable) and you have to have the axe In your hand.
Jump on top of his head (facing toward the back exit with the gate already open) and talk to him, pick the dialogue option to give him back the axe and get the mask, as soon as he starts the dialogue, exit out of the conversation and run out the door (note you should NOT be able to move your camera after a very short time after exiting dialogue, that's normal don't worry). As soon as you load up outside go to your map and fast travel to the city (or location) with your house.
He should still be talking at this point.
Once you load up, run into your house, you _should_ now be able to move your camera, turn to your weapon rack and put the axe on it.
If you did it right you should get a message saying it was removed from your inventory and that the mask was added, you now have both.
Note you have quite a short amount of time to complete these steps as it's just the time it'd take the dialogue if you stayed in the cave with him.
I also a similar bug to get both the Rusted Mace _and_ the Mace of Molag Bal
Harry Cope every Daedric Prince that offers two items has an exploit to get both of them (except the one that gives you the Star)
"The story end happily" "she kills her father" sorry what
Was it just me or did anyone else pause for a minute and think wtf, when he said "either way the story ended happily when she grew up and enacted revenge, killing her neglectful baren father" ...not exact words dispite the quotations but still I would not classify that as a happy ending
I think it's important to remember that clavicus & his dog are the same Daedra
Make Skyrim Great Again
A A skyrim never was great
Build a word wall across the border and make the Dunmer pay for it
Atlantic the Casual Gamer Skyrim created the first Empire and conquered neighboring profvinces, it was the strongest on Tamriel
The Empire is putting potions in the water and turning the frikkin Argonians gay!!
@@tatsusama3192 ITS NOT the Empire, its part of the THALMOR CONSPIRACY
From reading the name of the vid, I thought this was going to be about the White Gold Concordat lol
When I first stumbled upon that talking dog i thought to myself this must be the best game ever made
barbas and clavicus don't really as much share power. it's more like they're really the same entity metaphysically. Barbas is the part of the whole which is most reasonable of the two. as we see in skyrim, when you make a deal with barbas, he upholds his end of the bargain exactly as you expect him to, provided that you don't kill him. and even when barbas' power returns to clavicus and he absorbs him for a time being, he is still reasonable and lets you keep the axe if you "killed" barbas. Barbas is to calvicus what jiminy cricket is to pinochio.
The reason why i say this is because daedric princes are singularities. they don't share their sphere, they are their sphere, if you mantled him like you do with sheogorath in oblivion, you'd still get a barbas. Barbas is the machiavelli of bargains, reasonable and only acts in the best interest of his other half and partner clavicus, even if it is against clavicus' wishes. and clavicus acts on whim and emotions that occur in the moment. One thinks long term consequences and benefit, the other just the immediate satisfaction. And aren't these the very corner stones of bargains? when you deal with clavicus, you want the immediate satisfaction, and you're going to be dealing with the side which is just as interested with the immediate reward he will get should he double cross you. Which is why deals with barbas, always end up better for the individual.
nice
I think if genies were somehow added to TES VI, they'd be explained as lesser deadra made by Clavicus
I mean, if TES VI takes place in hammerfell or Elsweyr
Save for a theif, Barbas also makes a good temporary "follower". He will attack enemies for you (even when you don't want to engage them...) & he has a decent amount of health. Also, unlike Vigilance, he won't die. If his health gets low enough he'll run away but he won't die.
You forgot to mention his realm of Oblivion, the Fields of Regret. A serene countryside where merchant cities dot the landscape.
"When the Empire surrendered to the Aldmeri Dominion, they shamed us all. " Vignar Gray-Mane
That's nice that you mentioned polish story about Twardowski. Greetings from Poland! :)
Great video again :)
"By all means let's hear it, since you helped me grant one final wish for my last worshipers. They were suffering so from vampirism and begged me for a cure. Then you came and ended their misery! I couldn't have planned it better myself." Technically.. they WERE cured of vampirism.. when their limbs and heads came off.
Lesson: if you want to out smart the devil, call Gerald.
Clavicus Vile I feel is underrated
That thumbnail, oh my God, you guys kill me. Love you guys.
Very good. I love these lore videos they are very well sourced and the theories are educated also. One of my favorite parts of The Elder Scrolls games is when you meet the Daedra like Clavicus and Mora and instead of demanding service or worship they simply offer a deal to the player. I enjoy stories in which mortals attempt to usurp powers or forces out of their control and these actions ultimately end in their demise. Good work. Aside from the build videos these are my favorites coming out from you guys.
Name of Twardowski was Jan (John in ENG version). Pan means something like Sir or Mr. Pan Twardowski = Sir Twardowski. And he really existed. Twardowski was spiritist and occultist on court of king Zygmunt August. He tried to summom the spirit of his dead wife - Barbara Radziwiłłówna.
the elder council is like the English parliament? cyrodil is more similiar to the Holy roman empire. Sure, the emperors in charge, but he stays in his tower, with counts really running the show.
Fun fact, the modern appearance of the devil in Christian mythology having horns, hooves, etc. was actually a direct reference to Dionysus who was a very popular god of worship during the time of early Christianity. He was the god of wine (among other things) and was commonly depicted with horns and hanging around satyrs. Satyrs, or fauns, were small humanoids with horns, tails, and hooves. It was pretty much a very successful religious smear campaign.
The bible specifically states that Lucifer is incredibly beautiful.
Also, literally EVERYTHING in Christianity is a smear campaign.
Christmas was stolen from the Germans; Jesus was born in April. Hallowe'en was stolen from the Irish; they celebrated it long before the English became Christian.
The entire Christian religion is just a mutilated form of Judaism.
Are you sure it wasn't pan? That's what I remember, also the fact of Satan being a punisher comes from Hades I believe. Just the punisher of souls, Hades does not equal the Devil ( Unlike what some people believe.
@@briarrosegael2015
Hades doesn't even punish people. He just rules the Underworld (which in Greek mythology is ALSO named Hades). He is just the king of death, but Lucifer is actually a prisoner of Hell. Rather than rule it, he the devil was sent to Hell to be punished.
Also the word "Hell" comes from the Norse word "Hel" (only one L) which is their version of the Underworld and is also the name of the Goddess of Death.
Honestly, I just got that from a documentary and then a Lindsay Ellis video, I think it's like he was to send them to were they were punished like asphodel or Elysium. I can't remember is Helheim even a place of punishment? Norse Mythology's afterlife is overrated, spend your whole life fighting, then die in battle, only to spend the rest of your life preparing for some fight were you die for a second time. I think you even do that in Helheim.
@@briarrosegael2015
Helheim isn't a punishment technically, but anyone sent there will "never feel joy again". Anyone who did NOT die in battle will go to Helheim. Disease, old age, even criminals go there at death. Anyone deemed to not be a "true warrior".
Story ends happyli with Patricide! WTF
I wish the Skyrim quest, where the Jarl of Whiterun was murdered to death by his children because of Mephala, was not cut from the game...
since you wanted to do an example of the book "Pan Twardowski" a small disclaimer. Pan is just a polish word for Mister. which would be easier to understand for everyone else, who doesn't get the polish language (since Pan typically is a Faun for english speaking people)
As I mentioned to another Polish speaking poster, my grandmother passed away before I could learn more from her. The few Polish words I know are mostly slang I think.
Man that thumbnail is accurate XD
Do not buy Umbracoin, my soul now belongs to Clavicus. Worst decision of my life
what did the emperor say to the elf? i surrender
Commander Shepard what did the emperor say to a dark brotherhood assassin hired to kill him?
War bardock what did he say ?
War bardock Let an old man have a last few words
Commander Shepard Yeah, after destroying their asses back in the IC
What did the Nord say to the Elf? "You have to go back."
I know it's late for this but Pan Twardowski in Polish means Mister Twardowski. Still it was nice to hear
This is why I just keep Barbas. HAHA I WIN! TOOK YOUR DOG!
Umbriel was heading straight for the white gold tower, if it had connected with it, the sword with Clavicus' power would have been able to use the tower to open an portal allowing Clavicus through
The_Drop Bear
Clav is one of the underrated Deadric prince in ESO. Not knowing his full potential treat to Nirn. You can read that story in an Elder Scrolls Novel: The Infernal City.
In regards of that Umbriel escaping Clav, using it's power to embody itself without Clav's help, and other crazt shit including having the floating city of Umbriel atop Cyrodil in which conceive of potential treat.
Good story for the next eso
VITTXRIO
There is no next eso, nor is Clavicus a character in the ESO series.
It's TES, ESO is a mediocre spin off
Clavicus Vile is a major part of ESO Summerset. It is also confirmed to be canon.
Distortion Reaper
That's not what I was saying, hes a character in The Elder Scrolls, or TES.
That was a typo, I was only meant TES
This comment section is going to be fun to read
SoFlo Shylock@Pranks.tv it is indeed
Most people find the thumbnail funny but the vocal minority are offended and demanding it not ever happen again.
I have found it surprisingly calm
Fun fact: if you claim the Rueful Axe instead of the Masque of Clavicus Vile in Skyrim, it won’t count toward the achievement for getting all of the daedric artifacts (assuming your version of the game has achievements at all). In other words, keeping the rueful axe and killing Barbas locks you out of the Oblivion Walker achievement.
These are so good. I hope you do a set for the nine Divines
what do you call it when an imperial kills a thalmor? friendly fire
You do know the imperials hate the Thalmor right?
GreatBurrito 52 that doesn't stop them from working for the thalmor
Commander Shepard Doesn’t stop the empire from preparing for the second Great War.
Dahkittydoonsta there thalmor masters will never allow that
Commander Shepard General Tullius even confided in the Dragonborn that the Empire was taking its own precautions against the Thalmor.
Lmao to the Rueful Axe not being a Daedric Artifact. That's stunningly hilarious since it actually can kill gods.
In the legend Faust actually sucsseded and his soul went to heaven.Also he made the deall with Mephistopheles,not the Devil.In old slavic tales the devil is a much nicer guy who actually commends mortals that beat him instead of killing them or what not.
The bible says that the devil is also incredibly beautiful and is a very reasonable man. He was born as an angel after all.
Gotta agree, the ruler of the underworld used to be much cooler in Estonia as well, our myths and stories speak of how peasant Estonians would summon the devil and outsmart him.
QorinHalfhand. I mean, outside of the apple (if it is was him), he did nothing wrong. No killing just for lulz (like in ot,when the god took everything from a man to proove that he is loved by a man anyway), no mass murdering of innocent, no orders for mass murder of innocent, ext
In the adaptation by Goethe he makes it into heaven, but in the legends and folktales that Goethe took inspiration from he goes straight to the bad place.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Clavicus the Vile?
I honestly feel like Clavicus Vile and Paarthranax could talk for centuries nonstop since they’re both very social
There need be an Elder Scrolls that takes place in the various Daedric realms and nowhere else.
Omg I love your thumbnail😂😂
The Chad Barbas vs The Virgin Clavicus Vile.
In case of the failures of Vile"s bets and barters- "Even if I lose, Barbas will still be there."
Can you imagine if I ran around calling myself a septim because some red guard lobbed a scimitar at me? They'd put me away..
That was an underrated comment
Last time I came this early I cried and apologized...
Great video! Thanks for uploading!
Just woke up to see this video! Thanks Fudgemuppet!
Awesome video Drew - Coffee and Clavicus
Thumbnail made me lol
Well played sir
Clavicus vile and barbas im pretty sure represent loki and fenrir. Compare fenrirs Celtic stories and barbas heak even the shape shifting. Just my opinion.
clavicus vile is definitely my favorite daedric prince. he just wants to mess with people
Pan = Mr. This guy was Mr. Twardowski (Twardowsky)
When I see The Don, and he has his nuttin' face on, I come running.
That thumbnail though
Donaldus Prime of Akavir.
Clavi is my favourite Daedric Prince
"Pan" is Polish for "Lord" or "Mister"...
Its funny how Clavicus prides himself on duping people into a sour bargain, and then you can come along and bug the game using the Slow Time shout at the end of his quest and dupe him into giving you the mask whilst you keep the axe as well. I guess even Daedras are no match for shoddy programming...
Why would you want the axe lol
“The story has a happy ending. She kills her father” ....Dude....
This was great! Love learning more lore
That freakin thumbnail 😂
4:10 as a Polish dude... That was nice XD. Blew me up honestly. Thank you
I know the world is primarily influenced by Christianity so I understand automatically thinking horns=evil, but a long time ago horns were portrayed on many pagan gods, not as a symbol of darkness or evil but as a symbol of strength, masculinity, and protectiveness.
"Pan" is an honorific and it means "Master" or "Mister"
IT IS NOT A NAME
What do you mean ? I watched this video a while back so I dont know why you mentioned Pan? Please explain if you got the time
@@michaeltohmah3671 4:10
I like to think Barbas is adventurer of old. The prehistorical champion who made a tricky deal with Clavicus and forced him to share his power. But then daedra played his usual part and turned the smart as in to his loyal servant. (Mirak's case but played in Vile's style)
Hah the way you use "Pan" is funny, as it translates to Mister. So that is not in fact the characters first name, but the title, making the translation "Mr. Twardowski". The W's in his last name are also pronounced more like F's instead. Great videos by the way!
I did enjoy the video, and now I know for certain which of the rewards is best.
The rueful axe is a 4th wall breaking bad weapon. The character is screwed out of a good weapon and the player misses out on an achievement. I think it is intentional for the weapon to be this useless to the character and player.
Yeah. Anything earned by killing a Helpless dog, isnt worth it. Lesson learned.
Guys, "Pan" is actually polish for "Sir" or "Mister", it's not a name. Twardowski the fictional character's first name is never revealed. That said, the real 16th century nobleman that this character is believed to be based on was named Jan Twardowski, the guy was a court warlock (!) in the court of polish king Sigismund Augustus the 2nd ;D
I've always seen Vile and Barbas as two halves of one entity, neither any more valid than the other-- a joint prince.
I don't think they've ever been truly one, nor truly sovereign of eachother.
In a way, it's kind of like the aspects of Hircine, perhaps.
"We will build the wall and Elsweyr gonna Pay for it"
Clavicus Vile: Making Tamriel Great Again
Worse than what ever trade deal the uk and the eu reach?
Connor Murray much worse the mask is fucking useless, so is the axe, and the dog is annoying as shit
Good point
The_Drop Bear I actually like the mask it’s helpful early game and good for role playing a dremora. I just wish it was light armor.
Used to think he was really lame but there is so much to him/them
Great video, I loved the mythology explanation. Compared to Gauthie O'Dimm Clavicus Vile is still a cutepie. One thing made me laugh hard, though, as well as many Polish speakers. Pan Twardowski actually translates to Mr Twardowski. It is not a name...
It's too bad my grandmother passed before I could learn more Polish. The few words I remember aren't terribly useful.
Looks like we're about to see Clavicus Vile's full arc in ES6 if it's going to be set on High Rock
Shut up. Stop spreading lies.
Edit: I'm the idiot! I misread.
Morogoth
The fact that this person thinks that I'm spreading lies while in fact it was only an assumption. This is not a "High Rock for ES6" propaganda.
Clavicus Vile had become one of the major Daedra that is operating in High Rock due to their politics and trade
Yeah sorry. I read your comment wrong. I thought you said "it's going to be set on high rock" I didnt see the "if". My apologies!
We need to build a wall around Elsweyr
wait a sec, the witch was sheogorath in disguise?
Shit, Mans1ay3r's been depicting Sheogorath correctly this whole time.
Oh wth you guys are at 680k subs, last time I checked it was like 243k congrats
Wonderful video, Cheers
Hey fudge love ur vids keep it up
There is but one thing you forgot to account: killing Barbas was so satisfying that I never felt cheated, even if the axe I got was a piece of trash.
Finally, some good fuckin lore.
The worst deal was in oblivion: serve mankar cameron faithfully, and if you don't die, you'll be sent to a dimension where you are tortured and killed
When talking about the rueful axe you called it a sword at one point just letting you know.
Love your content keep it up!
He was talking about a sword before he was talking about the Rueful Axe.
On the subject of devils, deals, deceptions, and dogs, there is a legend in Wales, known as the Devil's Bridge. The story goes, that an old woman needed to cross a river/ravine, so the devil appeared, and offered to create a bridge for her to cross. The price being the soul of the first mortal to cross it. She agreed to this, and when the bridge was in place, she threw a loaf of bread across the bridge, bating a dog to cross first. The devil did not claim the dog's soul, and since then two more bridges have been built over the original Devil's Bridge.
He's more Chaotic Neutral than Chaotic Evil.
I like to go get the ax and then leave it on my wall and that way I can go pick up Barbies whenever I want to hang out with them so it's like I have half the gods power.
A better bargin was trading Erik the Slayer for the ebony mail
3:42 Faust translates to fist lol
possible reason such authority is the way of tamriel... autocrats require divine right. and I daresay the amulet of kings is pretty compelling. considering what happens when the legitimate lines are brought down.
like they don't have an option... monarchy=strong and fast reactions to immediate threats. and when a threat can literally appear from a portal in your city, saying fuck off to any fortifications or defenses in the event that throne isn't properly occupied...