After nearly 20 miles now in mine with an up tempo 9 miler, some track & road reps at 5K-10K pace and a 5K marathon pace run, I would equate most it to a "lite" version of the Peg Turbo 2. I certainly would not use the Invincible for any of those use cases out of choice. Conversely would not take out the Streakfly for an easy recovery run although would be happy to do so effectively for a few miles warm up and down. Still think the NEXT% is a better shoe for going fast in albeit costs lot more of course. Anyway had to laugh as had a comment on one of my videos on it that they don't want my opinions but I need to ask an "elite" athlete! Know any :) ???
Hahaha seriously? Was he/her self an elite athlete? What's the point not being an elite getting and elite opinion oh the dilema hahahaha it isn't even April fool's yet
I love the Liberate Nitro for trackwork as well - that Puma Grip is amazing on the track surface and gives you just enough bounce to make it fun. One of my fave trackwork shoes in a long while
The Liberate and the Deviate have been two of my favorites over the last year, when I've been able to run anyway. Coming off of an injury for a good deal of the second half of last year was a bite in the rear, but both of these shoes have seen some work in the rotation of late, and with the forgiving nature of the Nitro foam, pain free as well. Looking forward to increasing my mileage in both in the coming months. I might make the plunge with the Streakfly if my fitness comes along far enough; it's an appealing race shoe at the shorter distances, for certain. Cheers.
I think the first album I bought was Into the dragon. Loved that album. Pocket money always spent on either Records or Shoe. Not much has changed in 34 years. 😂
Hey Edd, I'd be interested in you reviewing some more retro shoes. I really enjoyed your review of running in that old Nike Pegasus. Would be pretty damn cool to see some Onitsuka Tiger or Asics 1090 running reviews.
I thought about this too. The only thing is who does that really help now? Either you have the shoe and have your own opinion or you won’t be able to get it anymore.
Superb review Sir Bud, the streakfly and Sen7 and invincible are genuinely great technology. Your reviews are surgically incision grade and I learn so much. I thanketh thee
Good shout on the 2 zoomx shoe combo! Just what I had in mind, as I'll be replacing my 4th and final pair of Turbo 2's, I just cant find them in my size any more (>1100km on first 3 pairs, 300km into the 4th). Before even watching this vid, I've gone for some heavily discounted invincible 2's plus, either streakfly or zoomfly5, can't decide yet hence watching every review I can find, leaning toward streakfly though. I've got a few months till the last turbo 2's need replacing, and they'll last a bit longer if I pull the invincible 2's into the rotation now for the easy and long runs. Got VF 2's for race days so it's zoomx everywhere, speed wise I'm a sub-16 5k'er after some discipline, so maybe the streakfly could be used for a parkrun blast to prolong the VF's.
10.5UK, I first got them in 2020 lockdown when I started running again and been lucky enough to find them again each time. Maybe it's time for a little change, but that lower profile react+zoomx combo seemed like a really good balance for an all round daily @@EDDBUD
I got myself 3 pairs of Liberate... I wish I could run in them more, usually get some arch/plantar fascia irritation if I do too much in it. My dream is Liberate 2 with a midfoot shank or torsionplate à la Adios.
The Puma Nitro series seems to only be on sale in the UK or at least, outside the US, The only time I've ever seen them on sale here is when Puma did it, and it's a rare occurrence..
Hi Edd . I know you are a big fan of the VF4%Fk (as am I) and I was wondering if you could do a three way comparison of the VF4%FK, The VF Next%2 and the StreakFly and what their various strengths and use cases may be. Thanks
How about an alternative to the Saucony Endorphin Speed? Both are plated. I'm trying to find an alternative to the speed for fast intervals and tempo runs, am wondering if the streakfly is up to the job...
I tried the Takumi Sen7 on a road 5K but it’s unlikely I’d choose it again for that. Rather, I enjoy it for track work and speed work on the treadmill.
Midsole yesterday, midsole today, and midsole forever! Great T-Shirt idea? I don't have any Nike brand shoes. I bought the Peg 37 on clearance and sold it later. Wrong choice for an introduction to Nike.
@@EDDBUD Fair point. I guess I associate the Streakfly with 5-10k races, which is what I'd also suggest the Adios 6 is best used for. Nevertheless, superb content once again Edd 👍
Kind of annoyed with these 5-10k limitations on the new shoes coming out. And I doubly don’t like a shoe that is actually designed not to go any farther than 10k because god forbid it eat into next % market share. It’s a no for me. Wonder if the new NB lineup is going to be as specific on the distances as well. If you ask me (and no one is) a light low stack shoe should hold up to half marathon distance easily and possibly even marathon for those who want less shoe over long miles.
The NB Pacer will be similarly marketed based on the early reports from shoe-tubers who went to TRE. However, as a lightweight, efficient lrunner I have not needed anything with a stack height higher than that of the Endorphin Speed, which is my marathon (and sometimes HM) race shoe. I’ve run HM’s in the Brooks Hyperion Tempo, the Boston 8 and 9 with no problems. Martha
I'm a big fat load at 195 pounds, and find the forefoot bottoms in the Liberate on me. Shoes with thin, soft midsoles don't have enough to keep my foot off the ground. I've found shoes like the Freedom 4 and Endorphin Pro work really well due to the more dense feel.
Hi Edd i actually was thinking about invincible/streakfly/vaporfly combo. I have the other two but have been struggling to find a good non plated tempo shoe. I’m not sure whether to get the streakfly or wait and get the peg turbo coming soon?
Hey how would you compare the streakfly with the New Balance rebel v2? I’m looking to get my first running pair for slower 5/10K distances (build up my aerobic) - unless you have better recommendations? Had the Zoomx Invincible but it was way too unstable for my sprained ankle Thank you 🙂
I would avoid the rebel 2 and streakfly for slower shorter distances. If that invincible run was too compressive I would go for something a little firmer.
If you like cushion, but find the Invincible too unstable, I'd suggest the Saucony Triumph 19. It's an excellent, forgiving, and controlled ride (at least compared to the Nike).
BEST CO/PARISON yet to hit will be NIKE PEGG TURBO 2 v PUMA VELOCITY NITRO 2 Puma unashamedly and wisely are honing making the latest Turbo 2 knockoff. No manufacturer comes close, not even Nike at making this cracking allrounder shoe.
I honesty would pick the peg turbo 2 in every situation over the streakfly. I’m a heavy runner I will admit and the Streakfly feels like it has bottomed out even just walking around. Far too soft, not my cup of tea at all. The Takumi sen 8 though 👌🏽
@@GoodFoShizzle thats a solid yes although the rubber on the lateral side won’t last long (in my opinion) strictly racing only I can’t be tempo training even for the cost. Lighter runners will get more miles out of them
Maybe it’s my weight but I love the streakfly. Absolute banger of a shoe. Nice to have something so like with such a forgiving nature. Easily a half marathon shoe for me.
Like I said before, it's an overhyped training shoe. That doesn't mean it's a bad shoe, in fact it's great, reasonable price and a super one to have for tempo days or intervals . But the hype around it is insane, it's not a next %, and if it's anything like the peg ,that zoom x won't last. I stand over the sen 8 being a better racer too , ( with the worst laces in history) but the Nike hype machine has everyone thinking this is the king....the price should tell you their marketing teams are getting a pay rise for bigging up a trainer.
@@EDDBUD I’m not saying you didn’t Edd, seems like a clever marketing ploy to make sure we all dive in and buy them like Lemmings, mind you, I will, so what does that make me 🤷♂️ a Lemming! 😂
@@TheHutchRuns I covered the bizarre release tactics i a video last week. Crazy to leave people cash in hand without shoes. These are produced in mass over a 9 month period last year. Total madness! 😊
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After nearly 20 miles now in mine with an up tempo 9 miler, some track & road reps at 5K-10K pace and a 5K marathon pace run, I would equate most it to a "lite" version of the Peg Turbo 2. I certainly would not use the Invincible for any of those use cases out of choice. Conversely would not take out the Streakfly for an easy recovery run although would be happy to do so effectively for a few miles warm up and down. Still think the NEXT% is a better shoe for going fast in albeit costs lot more of course. Anyway had to laugh as had a comment on one of my videos on it that they don't want my opinions but I need to ask an "elite" athlete! Know any :) ???
Hahaha seriously? Was he/her self an elite athlete? What's the point not being an elite getting and elite opinion oh the dilema hahahaha it isn't even April fool's yet
@@fabsterun Well, put it this way, never heard of him :) It's on my Yasso 800s video with Streakfly, Takumi Sen 8, Dragonfly.
I love the Liberate Nitro for trackwork as well - that Puma Grip is amazing on the track surface and gives you just enough bounce to make it fun. One of my fave trackwork shoes in a long while
Yes they hit the spot on that one. Let’s hope they don’t fool around too much with the formula.
The Liberate and the Deviate have been two of my favorites over the last year, when I've been able to run anyway. Coming off of an injury for a good deal of the second half of last year was a bite in the rear, but both of these shoes have seen some work in the rotation of late, and with the forgiving nature of the Nitro foam, pain free as well. Looking forward to increasing my mileage in both in the coming months.
I might make the plunge with the Streakfly if my fitness comes along far enough; it's an appealing race shoe at the shorter distances, for certain.
Cheers.
Sometimes a foam just works for us. That nitro stuff seems really versatile. 👍🏼
Computer world and Man Machine are some of my earliest Kraftwerk albums I bought with my own earth credits as a wee lad. Thanks edd
I think the first album I bought was Into the dragon. Loved that album. Pocket money always spent on either Records or Shoe. Not much has changed in 34 years. 😂
EDD thank you for comparing it to the turbo 2 comparison!!
Thank you for the video. Good food for thought on the 2 Nike trainer combo.
Hey Edd, I'd be interested in you reviewing some more retro shoes. I really enjoyed your review of running in that old Nike Pegasus. Would be pretty damn cool to see some Onitsuka Tiger or Asics 1090 running reviews.
Yes! The Mexico 66 😂
I thought about this too. The only thing is who does that really help now? Either you have the shoe and have your own opinion or you won’t be able to get it anymore.
The tigers were a big shoe at the time of release. Maybe some more retros in the summer. They will get ruined out there right now 👍🏼
Superb review Sir Bud, the streakfly and Sen7 and invincible are genuinely great technology. Your reviews are surgically incision grade and I learn so much. I thanketh thee
Much appreciated Richard 👍🏼
Im thinking of getting the adios 6,may have a look at the streakfly later in the year,great video as always edd!!
Adios 6 probably a better daily versatile option.
Good shout on the 2 zoomx shoe combo! Just what I had in mind, as I'll be replacing my 4th and final pair of Turbo 2's, I just cant find them in my size any more (>1100km on first 3 pairs, 300km into the 4th).
Before even watching this vid, I've gone for some heavily discounted invincible 2's plus, either streakfly or zoomfly5, can't decide yet hence watching every review I can find, leaning toward streakfly though. I've got a few months till the last turbo 2's need replacing, and they'll last a bit longer if I pull the invincible 2's into the rotation now for the easy and long runs. Got VF 2's for race days so it's zoomx everywhere, speed wise I'm a sub-16 5k'er after some discipline, so maybe the streakfly could be used for a parkrun blast to prolong the VF's.
What size are you? My turbo 2 have 100 odd miles.
10.5UK, I first got them in 2020 lockdown when I started running again and been lucky enough to find them again each time. Maybe it's time for a little change, but that lower profile react+zoomx combo seemed like a really good balance for an all round daily @@EDDBUD
@@leonsshare Mine are an 11. Fire me an email from the video description.
@@EDDBUD emailed 👍
I got myself 3 pairs of Liberate... I wish I could run in them more, usually get some arch/plantar fascia irritation if I do too much in it. My dream is Liberate 2 with a midfoot shank or torsionplate à la Adios.
Yes a small shank like the Adios would make that one more versatile. 👊
Some huge Edd Bud favourites here! The crème de la menthe of lower stack race day shoes!
Bonnet de douche👍🏼
All over the Nike app right at 7am PST and snagged a pair!!! They arrive Saturday!
They seemed to fly out the door. 🤣
I’m hoping these will be my track session shoes. Let’s hope they’re re released soon. Great review thanks Edd. 👍
Long live the Turbo 2🙌 Looking forward to that comeback.
Gold! 🥇
in a lot of ways this is the comeback
waiting on the comparison to Crocs before I make up my mind on these...😉
Strangely hard to come by!
@@EDDBUD like the streakfly
The Puma Nitro series seems to only be on sale in the UK or at least, outside the US, The only time I've ever seen them on sale here is when Puma did it, and it's a rare occurrence..
Not sure why we get mad deals on the Puma shoes almost all the time
I’m a sucker, I see streakfly, I click. Plain and simple simple!
Hope you enjoyed the shoe and the show. 👍🏼
@@EDDBUD not available in the United States yet but will definitely be trying to get them for track workouts!
Hi Edd . I know you are a big fan of the VF4%Fk (as am I) and I was wondering if you could do a three way comparison of the VF4%FK, The VF Next%2 and the StreakFly and what their various strengths and use cases may be. Thanks
Sounds a great idea! The evolution of zoomx. Will get on it for tomorrow ;)
@@EDDBUD look forward to that !
How about an alternative to the Saucony Endorphin Speed? Both are plated. I'm trying to find an alternative to the speed for fast intervals and tempo runs, am wondering if the streakfly is up to the job...
The early zoom fly if you can find one. Superb model! Light and features cushlon rather than react.
I tried the Takumi Sen7 on a road 5K but it’s unlikely I’d choose it again for that. Rather, I enjoy it for track work and speed work on the treadmill.
Yes it almost lends itself for a very light trail or spongy road. Brilliant upper on the sen 7
You also have a Reebok Floatride Run Fast Pro. A 100 gram shoe!
More like about 130g in my size.
How's the heel lock vs the PT2? I could never get locked in to the PT2 but it's a favorite to this day.
Didn’t have too many issues with the lockdown. Quite a different upper fit to the peg 35 turbo.
Compared to RC Elite V1?
Midsole yesterday, midsole today, and midsole forever! Great T-Shirt idea? I don't have any Nike brand shoes. I bought the Peg 37 on clearance and sold it later. Wrong choice for an introduction to Nike.
Yes the 37 didn’t cut it for me. Vomero 16 all the way.
What about the Adios 6 and Hyperion Tempo? As those are popular (and tbh my go-to-shoes for 5/10 k right now) that’d be interesting 😃
Some good suggestions there 👍🏼
Hmmm interesting 🤔 think I will pull the trigger when it’s back in and not wait for the new Turbo. Think it will be the perfect short workout shoe 🔥👑
The new turbo will be an interesting comparison. Crushed up zoomx vs new zoomx.
I must say, I was expecting the Adios 6 to feature here
Not much in common with those two. Tried to pick shoes with closer specs or materials.
@@EDDBUD Fair point. I guess I associate the Streakfly with 5-10k races, which is what I'd also suggest the Adios 6 is best used for. Nevertheless, superb content once again Edd 👍
I just ordered the Invincible, says it good for running on tired legs? Also, check out THUNDERCAT! His music is crazy good!!
Did I see thundercat recently in the Star Wars series the book of boba fett?!
Hi Edd,
Considering the current pricing, would you recommend the Sen 7 over the Adiós 6 or even go for the Sen 8 for a 5k? 178cm 74kg 43 male.
The sen 7 is a very different shoe to the 8. Lower stack, less forgiving. A 5k to track shoe for most.
Kind of annoyed with these 5-10k limitations on the new shoes coming out. And I doubly don’t like a shoe that is actually designed not to go any farther than 10k because god forbid it eat into next % market share. It’s a no for me. Wonder if the new NB lineup is going to be as specific on the distances as well. If you ask me (and no one is) a light low stack shoe should hold up to half marathon distance easily and possibly even marathon for those who want less shoe over long miles.
I agree. As you well know I went up to 12 miles in it without issue. More a marketing ploy 😊
@@EDDBUD naughty! It clearly says 5/10k make sure next run in them is only 3/7k in that case
@@fabsterun 😂
The NB Pacer will be similarly marketed based on the early reports from shoe-tubers who went to TRE. However, as a lightweight, efficient lrunner I have not needed anything with a stack height higher than that of the Endorphin Speed, which is my marathon (and sometimes HM) race shoe. I’ve run HM’s in the Brooks Hyperion Tempo, the Boston 8 and 9 with no problems. Martha
Thanks Edd!
If you were to compare it to the Endorphin Pro 2 (discounted) for the same price, which will you pick for shorter than HM distance? :)
The pellet like pebax in the pro is firmer and doesn’t have anywhere near as much give. But I bet it lasts a lot longer than the streakfly will.
I'm a big fat load at 195 pounds, and find the forefoot bottoms in the Liberate on me. Shoes with thin, soft midsoles don't have enough to keep my foot off the ground. I've found shoes like the Freedom 4 and Endorphin Pro work really well due to the more dense feel.
what about the go run speed elite?
Good shoe. But firmer and quite a different vibe.
I am going to wait for the cooler colourways to be released.......
Shouldn’t be too long 👍🏼
The last time I was this early was my wedding night
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Hi Edd i actually was thinking about invincible/streakfly/vaporfly combo. I have the other two but have been struggling to find a good non plated tempo shoe. I’m not sure whether to get the streakfly or wait and get the peg turbo coming soon?
It’s a super forgiving and light fun shoe. I heartily recommend it. Though it makes me want to run faster than I should!
Hey how would you compare the streakfly with the New Balance rebel v2? I’m looking to get my first running pair for slower 5/10K distances (build up my aerobic) - unless you have better recommendations? Had the Zoomx Invincible but it was way too unstable for my sprained ankle
Thank you 🙂
I would avoid the rebel 2 and streakfly for slower shorter distances. If that invincible run was too compressive I would go for something a little firmer.
@@EDDBUD Thanks :) appreciate that
@@EDDBUD looking at the fresh foam more v3 atm, thoughts or any better suggestions? :)
If you like cushion, but find the Invincible too unstable, I'd suggest the Saucony Triumph 19. It's an excellent, forgiving, and controlled ride (at least compared to the Nike).
@@JAvellino669 really appreciate the suggestion! Will look into them, have a good rest of your day :)
please compare streakfly to NB fuelcell rebel
Did the rebel 2 already but only few pairs of the original left now.
BEST CO/PARISON yet to hit will be
NIKE PEGG TURBO 2 v PUMA VELOCITY NITRO 2
Puma unashamedly and wisely are honing making the latest Turbo 2 knockoff. No manufacturer comes close, not even Nike at making this cracking allrounder shoe.
Will be interesting to see the nitro 2. 👍🏼
I honesty would pick the peg turbo 2 in every situation over the streakfly. I’m a heavy runner I will admit and the Streakfly feels like it has bottomed out even just walking around. Far too soft, not my cup of tea at all. The Takumi sen 8 though 👌🏽
Would you pick the sen 8 over the turbo 2 if you had the choice?
@@GoodFoShizzle thats a solid yes although the rubber on the lateral side won’t last long (in my opinion) strictly racing only I can’t be tempo training even for the cost. Lighter runners will get more miles out of them
Maybe it’s my weight but I love the streakfly. Absolute banger of a shoe. Nice to have something so like with such a forgiving nature. Easily a half marathon shoe for me.
Like I said before, it's an overhyped training shoe.
That doesn't mean it's a bad shoe, in fact it's great, reasonable price and a super one to have for tempo days or intervals . But the hype around it is insane, it's not a next %, and if it's anything like the peg ,that zoom x won't last. I stand over the sen 8 being a better racer too , ( with the worst laces in history) but the Nike hype machine has everyone thinking this is the king....the price should tell you their marketing teams are getting a pay rise for bigging up a trainer.
You saw which shoe I recently ran my 5k Parkrun in right?
@@EDDBUD I did, nice running too, getting some speed back early in the year bodes well for summer racing Mr Bud. Keep up the good work .
Podium?
Bronze 🥉
Still no StreakFly in the U S of A
Amazed it’s still not out. Did they release even the proto version yet?
No school today, Ed?
Schedule release today. 👍🏼
What's the point of shoe comparisons if you can't buy the damn things! Seems like only the chosen few and lots of UA-camrs have got them!
I bought mine Martin. They will be out very shortly in a new colourway. Hang tight 👍🏼
@@EDDBUD I’m not saying you didn’t Edd, seems like a clever marketing ploy to make sure we all dive in and buy them like Lemmings, mind you, I will, so what does that make me 🤷♂️ a Lemming! 😂
@@TheHutchRuns I covered the bizarre release tactics i a video last week. Crazy to leave people cash in hand without shoes. These are produced in mass over a 9 month period last year. Total madness! 😊
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Just missed podium!
@@EDDBUD - Decided I’d given others a chance at earning some medals after my *ten consecutive Gold medals!*
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