REVIEW OF EVERY NIKE RUNNING SHOE of 2024 - Pegasus/Vaporfly/Vomero/Alphafly/Invincible Comparison

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  • @adyton
    @adyton Рік тому +290

    This video is by far one of the best and most useful videos that I have watched on Nike running shoes for months. Thank you!

  • @jchan7494
    @jchan7494 Рік тому +47

    Very straightforward and detailed review with all the helpful information that majority of the runners wanted to know. Thank you Mr Ben Parkes.

  • @CosmicTT
    @CosmicTT 10 місяців тому +13

    Fan of the Pegasus range. Looking for a long run shoe in the Nike family. Great review

  • @Iyengar7
    @Iyengar7 Рік тому +113

    Ben takes less than 0.6 seconds to say “hello everybody” and I love it ❤😂

    • @alex-dk2rj
      @alex-dk2rj 10 місяців тому +3

      He said Hillary

  • @Ydake23
    @Ydake23 10 місяців тому +15

    going to start running for the first time,just ordered the Pegasus 40s for $65 thanks for the video!

    • @Dramatello
      @Dramatello 9 місяців тому +1

      Wow that’s a too good to be true price there. Good for you

  • @ElRadioDJ913
    @ElRadioDJ913 9 місяців тому +3

    I am more of an adidas guy but Nike's craftmanship in running shoes is by far the best I've seen. The only Nike running shoes I've own were Revolution 6 and they are comfortable.

  • @billycc97
    @billycc97 Рік тому +16

    Vaporfly 3 is just amazing!

  • @Tomcat304
    @Tomcat304 11 місяців тому +2

    I tried on the Vomero 17 in a store today. The heel felt a little clunky! I look forward to see what the React X foam for the Pegasus 41 will be like. I'm a Pegasus die hard that goes back 15 years with the shoe. It has always been my versatile Go To Shoe. 5K up to Marathons! Thanks for the Content!

  • @motorbikes6535
    @motorbikes6535 21 день тому +1

    Thank you for the amazing video😊

  • @NasierOmran
    @NasierOmran 10 місяців тому +1

    Good chronological review. I ran my 5k pr on The Pegasus, couldnt improve it with the carbon plated nikes that came out later.

  • @acoitheadventurer1001
    @acoitheadventurer1001 Місяць тому

    Your reviews are the best.. Short & compact.. Tq Ben..

  • @kiravivo4185
    @kiravivo4185 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for your great work! Best review so far!

  • @Laolu90
    @Laolu90 9 місяців тому +2

    The streakfly helped me with my plantar fasciitis by wearing it for slow recovery runs and as a daily trainer once a week.

    • @toddlesiak3837
      @toddlesiak3837 9 місяців тому

      How did you treat your plantar? I've had it for a few months, & it's so painful that I can hardly walk at times

    • @Laolu90
      @Laolu90 9 місяців тому

      @@toddlesiak3837
      1. Use a lower cushioned lower stacked shoe for easy runs like the streakfly once or twice a week instead of always using a max cushioned daily trainer like the Novablast all the time.
      2. Throw away your shoe if you think it’s causing plantar fasciitis even if it hasn’t reached 250/300 miles.
      3. Do calf raises barefoot at home. Everything is discussed in this video, it really helped:
      ua-cam.com/video/flyToGa_NXw/v-deo.htmlsi=m2nykSXVvmC2uYFN

    • @Laolu90
      @Laolu90 9 місяців тому

      1. Find a lower stacked less cushioned shoe like the streafkly to do your easy runs in instead of doing most of your runs in a high stacked high cushioned shoe.
      2. Throw out your current running shoe if the plantar gets inflamed during, just after or the day after the run.
      3. Do barefoot calf raises at home and stretch out your big toe as much as you can. Buy a small massage ball and use that under your feet everyday by rolling your foot on in.
      4. Watch a short video on plantar fasciitis on UA-cam by Sagasu Running.
      5. Wish you a speedy recovery!

  • @CATinBOOTS81
    @CATinBOOTS81 Рік тому +20

    This video was super informative, one similar for Asics, Adidas, Puma and Saucony would be great.

  • @tanyaescobar6549
    @tanyaescobar6549 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for helping me decide on which shoe to run in my first half marathon race! Hope the Vaporfly 3 carries me swiftly to the finish line.

  • @fradex_8
    @fradex_8 Рік тому +1

    ADIDAS - I'd love to see some Adidas shoes in your videos.
    Thank you for all the effort that you put into it.

  • @DD_Davey
    @DD_Davey Рік тому +9

    Hillobiddy! This is awesome thanks! ❤️

    • @Iyengar7
      @Iyengar7 10 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @motorbikes6535
    @motorbikes6535 21 день тому +1

    Could you do about the addidas shoes for example the addidas pro 3s

  • @Knut1978
    @Knut1978 Рік тому

    I've got just two Nike shoes now. Vaporfly Next 2 and Vomero 16. The Vomero is also surprisingly fast. I also have good models from other brands, Saucony, Puma, Hoka. What is very clear is that the Nike shoes are more legsaving. I actually regret I didn't buy more Nike shoes.

  • @amoghronaldo4111
    @amoghronaldo4111 7 днів тому

    perfect video which i was looking for 😄

  • @chriskii12344
    @chriskii12344 4 місяці тому

    Bought the Vaporflys in Taiwan today for 135 GBP UK is getting a raw deal!

  • @Dramatello
    @Dramatello 9 місяців тому

    The peg 39s started to feel too flat and almost like I’m slapping the ground. Could be because I used it for weightlifting too, I ran like 480km with them.
    What I’m looking for is a more plushy and fun shoes that will push me a bit more….. so I guess the Vomero 17 should be perfect.
    Except I’m afraid of the extra few grams.
    I hope they are not felt all that much.

  • @chestersidd1626
    @chestersidd1626 Рік тому +2

    Please make a review of Every Adidas Running Shoes. Please make it happen Ben Parkes 🙏

  • @johnsantos97
    @johnsantos97 4 місяці тому

    Very helpful video just got into running outdoors and been looking for a good shoe.

  • @longbluesquid
    @longbluesquid 10 місяців тому +1

    I just ordered infinity Rn4. I badly need shoes my Pegasus 40 and mizuno are done for. I’m gonna test it out this week.

  • @chinpoeykhoo6261
    @chinpoeykhoo6261 Рік тому +1

    Complete information about Nike line up and detailed prons and cons for each Nike shoes, would be great if we have a complete line up from PUMA or Hoka.

    • @jo_cho
      @jo_cho Рік тому +1

      he did a 2023 hoka video

  • @georgehiscox3378
    @georgehiscox3378 Рік тому

    There is also the Nike Zoom structure shoes which I've loved as someone who over pronates a touch. Super durable (my version 24s have nearly 1000ks) and comfortable and a solid all-round shoe for runners that need the extra stability 🏃👟

  • @ombibip
    @ombibip 5 місяців тому

    cant wait for my vamero 17 to come. thanks for the reviews

  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday 10 місяців тому +2

    How do these all vary in lateral stability? You’re not saying much about ankle roll potential.

  • @jo_cho
    @jo_cho Рік тому +1

    it would be great if you could do the same video for puma and adidas, but I understand if you weren't able to buy enough shoes.

  • @Phaseish
    @Phaseish 8 місяців тому

    I had the same problem with the Invincbile run 3 today at the store and I downsized from a 10 to a 9 1/2 and it was all good after that super comfy.

  • @gdm_fashion
    @gdm_fashion Рік тому +2

    Great vid, Ben!

  • @wh1bbs27
    @wh1bbs27 Рік тому +26

    Great video Ben! I think a similar one for Asics would be good 😊

    • @lukeswindale5471
      @lukeswindale5471 Рік тому +1

      Yes I agree

    • @BenParkes
      @BenParkes  Рік тому +5

      ua-cam.com/video/OTZKtxJcgfw/v-deo.html here is the Asics one. It's 2023, but not much has changed!

  • @waleedsulaiman651
    @waleedsulaiman651 Рік тому

    For me the Streakfly is a 3-5km Time trial/race shoe. Whenever I use it for longer than 5km's my feet are busted. The reason for that is, you feel so low to the ground and you feel almost everything.. Because you hitting the ground hard It does not give that energy return back to the legs like the Zoom next% or Alphafly... The Zoom fly 5 is fairly comfortable BUT heavy. Definitely not a 10km speed shoe, should be used for longer runs.... My all time favourite is the Nike Air Zoom Tempo NEXT %... I am on my 3rd pair!. Cant wait for the version 2

  • @ronaldobongalos6807
    @ronaldobongalos6807 10 місяців тому

    Awesome video, Ben

  • @Auser429
    @Auser429 Рік тому +1

    Ben, what about the Nike Air Zoom Tempo Next %? I ran my last two marathons in that shoe!

  • @StrengthRunning1
    @StrengthRunning1 Рік тому +4

    I’d love reviews on Topo and Altra shoes!! It would be a little bit different and very interesting.

  • @Alexsruns
    @Alexsruns Рік тому +5

    this video was very useful

  • @MiracleWarriors
    @MiracleWarriors Рік тому +1

    I have both Nike Invincible 3 and the Infinity 4. I prefer the cushioning and rocker ride of the Infinity 4 ,but the Invincible 3 has a more comfortable upper that hugs my feet really well without having to be super snug ad the Infinity 4. For long runs I prefer the Invincible and for easy short runs the Infinity is amazingly relaxing with the rocker it has.

    • @playingindies6730
      @playingindies6730 10 місяців тому +1

      I own the invincible 2 and 3. And while the 3 visually looks better, and quite a bit better.. the 2 is so much better in comfort. The 2's upper is just so much more comfortable that the 3 felt like a huge step back to me.

    • @MiracleWarriors
      @MiracleWarriors 10 місяців тому

      @playingindies6730 I overpronate, and the Invincible 3 works marvelous to me. But I did not have the two previous versions that were very unstable for overpronation running, or so I heard. I want to see if the Invincible 4 will be another "heavy " high cushioning shoes that are faster then most highly cushioning stack shoes OR maybe Nike will make the next Invincible to compete with super trainers, like the SuperBlast 2 or a Cloud Monster Hyper, for example.
      I only got my Invincible because of last year's Black Friday because I don't think they are worth full price for what it does. Even that I ended loving my pair.

  • @Rockondevil
    @Rockondevil Рік тому +2

    I’m after something to replace the Tempo Next % which has been my favourite shoe for years now.
    I had issues with the Alphafly V1 with my forefoot hanging over the side and giving blisters.

    • @PetertheSecond2
      @PetertheSecond2 11 місяців тому

      yes i loved the tempo next % but they just kept ripping so i have to get something else

  • @Running_with_Damien
    @Running_with_Damien Рік тому

    I have Pegasus 40s for easy and Vaporfly 2s for racing, I would like to try Invincibles and Vaporfly 3s next and have also never tried an Alphafly

  • @ripumann7959
    @ripumann7959 5 місяців тому

    Great knowledge and straight forward 👏 👌 kudos

  • @MrAlfredkwok
    @MrAlfredkwok Рік тому +1

    Will u try out some adidas shoes as well?

  • @leonsshare
    @leonsshare Рік тому +1

    Would the new vomero be a good replacement for my many pairs of Peg Turbo 2s?

  • @rayane9175
    @rayane9175 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video.
    I'm looking for new shoes to run like :
    - 3-4 miles x2 / week
    - Jumping rope every day
    - Fractional running x2 / week
    I think the carbon plate is useless for my profile.
    Need some advice please. The invincible 3 looks amazing. (70kg and have shin periostit)

  • @cgcsantelices
    @cgcsantelices Рік тому

    I am an avid fan of Nike running shoes ever since I was engaged in Marathon running way back 2017, and I own different types of it. Per my experience using it all, I can say that my most favorite pairs would be the Nike Infinity Run React 3 and the Nike Pegasus 39! I love the stability and durability of the Nike React, and versatility on my Nike Peg. Feels really good with my feet, and it’s so comfortable! With my Nike Invincible 3 and Nike Zoomfly 4, I often roll my feet, and I actually had sprained my ankle. :( Nike Vaporfly on the other hand feels so tight that my feet can’t wear it for a longer time. Just my two cents. :)

  • @NatureAndMyself
    @NatureAndMyself 6 місяців тому

    I remember with 10 dollar shoes me n my friends do a lot of marathon n a lot trekking in Himalayas even till 5500 mtr … my legs r still fit n fine
    How things changed now everything being sold on the name technology , comfort … how psychologically these companies selling products is brilliant…
    Even today also you can go to any Nepal or India village in Himalayas you can see they r doing trail runs or running in 4-5 dollar shoes and some in leather shoes 😅😅

  • @Fletch-pi8ew
    @Fletch-pi8ew 10 місяців тому

    Does the Vaporfly have the same poppy feeling as the Aflphaflies or the Nike air zoom tempo next despite not having the air zoom pods.
    thankyou 💪💪💪👏👏👏👏

  • @jeraldkun5533
    @jeraldkun5533 11 місяців тому

    What should i pick between the invicible 3 and the zoom fly 5 if i need a shoes that would boost my performance during easy runs and also interval?

  • @HoytMcBeth
    @HoytMcBeth Рік тому +1

    I have a thing for cheap running shoes, and the Nike Revolution ($US 60) is a great value shoe. They have a bit more cushion than older models, but it is on the form side. Even took it in an incredibly muddy and technical trail this weekend and it performed pretty well.
    My daily though is the WinFlo which can soak up the miles without being a marshmallow mess.

    • @BobRoss-wm3lc
      @BobRoss-wm3lc 8 місяців тому

      One show that I always wanted but didn’t get a few years back was the winflo winterized version that was like purple black and green. I just liked the look of them.

  • @gautammohanty1939
    @gautammohanty1939 5 місяців тому

    Can u pls make a video on wide running shoes for forefoot strikers?

  • @McD09Msa
    @McD09Msa 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video, mate. Thanks.

  • @simoneavery2253
    @simoneavery2253 Рік тому +1

    Nice video! I was a huge fan of the Nike Air Zoom Tempo Next% and really miss it. Which Nike shoe comes close to it? (sorry, I find the Pegasus and Vomeros just too boring).

  • @finding_health
    @finding_health 11 місяців тому

    Please do a video like this for On. I'm SO confused by all of their options. I'm in the market for an easy run/daily training shoe with a decent amount of cushioning and am overwhelmed by all of the options out there.

  • @TheHutchRuns
    @TheHutchRuns Рік тому +1

    Great video Ben, all of the Nike regular shoes feel cumbersome to me but I love the Streakfly and Alphafly 3. Strangely, I struggle with the Vaporfly 3 which is surprising as I think version 1 & 2 are the best race shoes ever across all distances (Aphafly 3 is definitely better for anything 10 miles and above now, though).

    • @mikeharvey7383
      @mikeharvey7383 Рік тому

      I agree about the vaporflys, loved the version 1's and the plasticky upper, liked the version 2's bur preferred the 1's upper and the jury is still out on the 3's, ran about 100k in them but not raced in them.

  • @davecourtney7027
    @davecourtney7027 Рік тому +2

    Are the Nike Tempo Next% still in your rotation or which of the ones reviewed would be a similar feel?

  • @garrith6386
    @garrith6386 Рік тому +3

    Great video! I'd really like to see the same for Saucony and Asics, please.

    • @BenParkes
      @BenParkes  Рік тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/jcqEwm9xMvc/v-deo.html saucony video is here ua-cam.com/video/OTZKtxJcgfw/v-deo.html asics video is here

  • @Renato_Olive
    @Renato_Olive 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video!! Congrats!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @Dias4815162342
    @Dias4815162342 Рік тому +6

    Nike has also the Structure as a stability model 😉

  • @nikoscoulson
    @nikoscoulson Рік тому

    Please could you review some of the Mizuno range? I’ve struggled with Asics and Nike for fit but would love to hear what you think of Mizuno.

  • @abhigit3
    @abhigit3 7 місяців тому

    Very informative video. I daily walk/jog for 3-4kms, so could you please suggest which is the most suitable shoes? Thanks in advance.

  • @emanuelsantos5585
    @emanuelsantos5585 Рік тому

    Excelent video. I love Invincible 2 , Vaporfly 1 and Alphafly 1 . I have other Nikes but Thais 3 i 😍😍😍

  • @DanielCclements
    @DanielCclements Рік тому

    Would love a review of the current adidas line up!

  • @Em022
    @Em022 2 місяці тому

    The white Infiniti runs are the cleanest looking shoes

  • @martinlanders6135
    @martinlanders6135 Рік тому

    No mention of the Nike Structure 25? I’d love to know how that lines up against the others.

  • @jamesshelley6478
    @jamesshelley6478 Рік тому +1

    Hi Ben appreciate you aren’t a stability trainer wearer however could you do a video on the best stability shoes? Also, currently following your marathon plan. Have the Norfolk marathon in Cromer in April 🤞

  • @diegosolano3570
    @diegosolano3570 Рік тому

    Do you have a video for best shoes to walk or stand up for a long time, example, when going to a theme park 😅?

  • @spekatino3229
    @spekatino3229 Рік тому

    What would you recommend for a running shoe for mens who want to run everyday to keep fit for soccer?

  • @slickw2000
    @slickw2000 10 місяців тому

    Awesome video! Any chance for an ON shoes comparison for the year?

  • @MrRusty1979
    @MrRusty1979 6 місяців тому

    Hi Ben I’m about to do my first hyrox! What kind of runner would you recommend for that? I’m not a runner but want something that’s going to be comfortable. Great video! 👊

  • @Rulkling
    @Rulkling 7 місяців тому

    would you go for the inifinity 4, volmero 17 or the pegasus 40 if they were the same price?

  • @pedrogoncalves2606
    @pedrogoncalves2606 2 місяці тому

    Great video! I have a pair of Zoom Fly 5 and although I really enjoy the feel of the shoe, I get the front of the bottom of the feet too hot very often. I don’t know if someone had the same problem here. I am a front striker which I don’t know if it emphasises the problem. I’m using these shoes for fast session, but also long runs and some racing too. I raced a couple of road 10 k in them and one half marathon. But on the half marathon I was feeling that under feet heating and it was very uncomfortable/ painful. I don’t want to use them on a marathon because of that. Is there anything I could try to change this feel? Thank you!

  • @AhmedButt-ku1ym
    @AhmedButt-ku1ym 9 місяців тому

    REQUEST. Your expert opinion pls. Which is overall better shoe among NIKE INVINCIBLE 3 or NEW BALANCE FRESHFOAM 1080 V13.
    Thank you

  • @Logo-qr3he
    @Logo-qr3he 8 місяців тому +1

    Lets Go Ben!🎉

  • @beezos24
    @beezos24 11 місяців тому

    Great review. I was hoping they would add free runs back in the mix. Appreciate your content

  • @bluesque9687
    @bluesque9687 11 місяців тому

    So, Nike is two shoe company!
    Vaporfly and Alphafly. And nothing else that is not heavy and not boring!

  • @meadows5367
    @meadows5367 Рік тому +6

    Nice video! 👍🏻
    The thing I dislike about Nike shoes; narrow toe boxes. 💥
    It would be great to see the same review for Saucony, Altra, Asics, Topo and Hoka in the future if you’re willing. Thanks Ben! 👟

    • @jordanstobbart2030
      @jordanstobbart2030 Рік тому +2

      He has already done then for Saucony, Asics and Hoka if you look on his channel

    • @meadows5367
      @meadows5367 Рік тому +1

      @@jordanstobbart2030
      Thank you for letting me know. I just started watching Ben’s channel. I’ll look for the videos you mentioned. 😀

    • @meadows5367
      @meadows5367 11 місяців тому

      Even if Nike has a narrow toe box, I’d like to try the alpha fly 3. 👟

  • @jonathanreichbach8392
    @jonathanreichbach8392 10 місяців тому

    What Nike shoe would you recommend for tempo runs if I have a daily trainer and a race shoe?

  • @erwinramos2333
    @erwinramos2333 5 місяців тому

    Only thing i hate about the vaporfly 3 is it had a mini suction thing happening at the bottom of the shoe sometimes

  • @CindyLópez-n8t
    @CindyLópez-n8t Рік тому

    Hey Ben! What about New Balance 2024 lineup? I love my NB XMore V4. 😁

  • @francescborrull9342
    @francescborrull9342 Рік тому

    Pegasus and Zoom Fly 5 for me. That's all I need!

    • @TheMap1997
      @TheMap1997 Рік тому

      How do you rotate it? And what's the purpose of each one?

    • @francescborrull9342
      @francescborrull9342 Рік тому

      In a well structured training running program, there are different kinds of workouts like easy runs, recovery runs, tempo runs, intervals, and long runs. In my case, I use the Pegasus for easy, recovery and long runs. I use the Zoom Fly 5 for tempo and interval runs. The Fly 5 is also the shoe I am racing in this 2024. If you want to be even more 'picky' or specific, you could have a dedicated shoe for recovery runs (one with extra cushion, aka max cushion shoe), and if you are very fast (I'd say faster than 7 minute per mile), the Vaporfly is the 'one' shoe to race 1/2 and marathon races. I am a slower runner, thus I don't need a Vaporfly, the Zoom Fly 5 is enough for me. I hope this helps.
      @@TheMap1997

  • @muhammadkhawarizmi5751
    @muhammadkhawarizmi5751 Рік тому +1

    Tq ben for a nice shoes review.. my favourite absolutely will be vaporfly 3 😊

    • @Logo-qr3he
      @Logo-qr3he 8 місяців тому

      Why not alphafly

  • @Mickeeey18
    @Mickeeey18 Рік тому +3

    Great video myself i have the pegasus 40 , next video asics ? i have the novablast 3

  • @barryleslie7727
    @barryleslie7727 10 місяців тому

    Can you branch out to cover Adidas? I want to hear your thoughts on the Boston 12, Adios Pro 3 and Takumi Sen

  • @DmitryKlochkov-h2u
    @DmitryKlochkov-h2u 11 місяців тому

    What about Nike Air Zoom Tempo which was your favourite last year? Has it been discontinued?

  • @victormiguelantoniovergara85
    @victormiguelantoniovergara85 Рік тому +1

    I enjoy all of your contents keep it up ben❤

  • @jannebrija9879
    @jannebrija9879 7 місяців тому

    I bought the Invincible run 3 because I have heel spurs in both feet, I need the most comfy cushion shoes for my dailywear and I saw at the best cushion shoes from last year but I find it while running or even just walking, the heel feels lower then the forfeet which doesn't help and feels unnatural.

  • @johannbaniqued4360
    @johannbaniqued4360 8 місяців тому

    Are there Nike Frees coming this year? I am looking for a very minimalist shoe.

  • @playingindies6730
    @playingindies6730 10 місяців тому

    I own the Pegasus 38 and I feel like the midsole around the back is too thin.
    I prefer older models of shoes, like that are being brought out as casual retros right now over the newer stuff because it is more stable.

  • @Auser429
    @Auser429 Рік тому

    Also a video like this about Adidas would be interesting 🧐

  • @Huntelaar13
    @Huntelaar13 Рік тому

    Every time I see your close up, I think, they look too big for you?! Have just bought my (first) marathon shoes and inspired by this I went a half size up in case of movement / swelling. Would love a more in-depth ‘fitting/sizing’ episode.

  • @runnerdan785
    @runnerdan785 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, just thank you! I don’t know what else to say 👍

  • @emekaojiako2470
    @emekaojiako2470 8 місяців тому

    What one would you recommend for running on treadmill?

  • @jeanines_channel3246
    @jeanines_channel3246 Рік тому

    Hello. I think the Swift line is the best for me, for trainers. For actual runs (races), I like ASICS gels. But I do love Nike shoes.

  • @bradenware3012
    @bradenware3012 10 місяців тому

    What is the #1 shoe you would recommend for people looking to get into distance running

  • @bboyggez
    @bboyggez 10 місяців тому

    I just got the Vomero 17 for $65 on a sale

  • @MustafaZidan
    @MustafaZidan Рік тому +1

    I really enjoy this type of video I really want you to do New balance next

  • @aidenabarca7599
    @aidenabarca7599 8 місяців тому

    streakflys do have a plate. it is not carbon fiber. it’s a composite material plate running through only part of the shoe

  • @christhomas8256
    @christhomas8256 Рік тому +1

    Hi Ben, when it comes to carbon plate shoes do you agree with the research that states these are only beneficial to those that consistently run at a minimum pace of around 7:30mi?

  • @jordanoliver582
    @jordanoliver582 9 місяців тому

    I'm a kind of beginner but hooked into the sport was debating on the vapourfly or the streakfly what do you think is best and what do you thing for a good trainer for training days