You make good videos but I suggest choosing your video clips more carefully so they reflect what the town actually looks like along with the correct demographics
Yeah, while she was talking about Zion, we saw some random guy washing his face in the sink and some random girl sitting on a couch. Nothing at all about Zion.
Sauk Village, Ford Heights and Lynwood are all relatively close to one another and have vastly different histories. Even Harvey, Riverdale and Dolton are pretty much 20 minutes right up the road. Sauk Village was a clean blue collar worker town back in the day and majority white. Ford Heights was an industrious black town when it began. Lynwood was a VERY clean and quiet little place you passed on the way to River Oaks mall, you blink and you miss it. The first 7-11 I ever saw was in Lynwood. A lot of people might not want to hear it, especially from someone like me, but there are essentially two things that decimated Sauk Village and Lynwood. Section 8 and the demolition of both the Robert Taylor homes and Cabrini Green. Period. Ford Heights was already bad in the late 80's early 90's. They literally had a section of town called "Vietnam" it was so bad. Dolton, Riverdale and Harvey were so close to the city but not considered ("Chicago" Chicago). The people from there had to "prove" how hard they were, so it was always violent and drug infested. When the Starter Jacket craze happened in the 90's my cousin got a gun put in his face out in Harvey, while he was walking with my aunt. It really is sad what happened to south Chicagoland.
You are telling the truth. I was in school in Park Forest when they tore down the RT homes and Cabrini. The families moved down there in the suburbs. Education stopped so that those kids could catch up. Chicago Public Schools leaves these kids so far behind. Unfortunately, crime rates went up when they moved in. There is a stigma that section 8 residents destroy neighborhoods and it causes people with money to leave. They are taking their tax dollars with them, leaving no money for the schools. The education suffers, leaving to more people leaving in search of better for their kids. My purse was taken from me in Lynwood by the old skating rink. My sister's friend was murdered there as well. Going to the Harvey or Chicago Heights bus terminals is not a good idea. So many drunks and homeless people just hanging out. Remember the store inside the Harvey bus terminal? We came to the suburbs to have a little respite from the crime and bad education system, but it followed us down there.
That entire area Franklin Park, stone Park, Melrose park, Maywood, Broadview, Bellwood. I'm from Chicago but lived in the jungle in Franklin Park for awhile back when it was out of control.
Bullshit!! Maywood and Bellwood is nothing Ike the west side of Chicago. Yeah it's crime everywhere, but dammit I have a peace of mind! Ask yourself why those two suburbs aren't o the top ten..
8 of the 10 towns on this list are in the Southern suburbs of Chicago and have been in trouble for at least 40 years…I grew up in that area and know all those towns…it is indeed a grim landscape ……
Harvey was bad since I was a kid in the 1970s. It did not get better in the 80s and 90s from what I remember. These areas are all a fairly short distance from the most dangerous and gang ridden areas of Chicago. I doubt the gangs care about the town borders.
I see in most of these towns it's stated that the schools are bad. I know some idiot said "it takes a village to teach a child", but in these towns it also the (so called) parents that are bad.
Like you said, it begins with the parent(s), a thirst for learning begins at home, then followed thru with parents being involved with theirs children's school. You can't teach people who don't want to learn.
@@frankkolton1780 You're right, it begins with parents, but it's also more complicated, even if we just focus on parenting. Compared to these cities, do you think all of the kids in Highland Park have ideal parents? Do you think all these corrupt politicians from wealthy environments have ideal parents? We could focus on these cities, but really, corruption and decay is everywhere but just look different. I would argue, that unless you're homeschooling your own children, you aren't being ideal parents, yet homeschooling isn't enough. It just provides the necessary time with your children to successfully play the role you are supposed to in your children's lives. I believe it's silly that we think strangers (public school teachers) should spend more or close to the same time with children as the children's respective parents. It doesn't make biological or logical sense. It makes economic sense, and I would say social sense, too, but schools aren't bastions of healthy socialization in my mind (if you homeschool, you should be socializing your children, by the way (and if you don't homeschool, you should be correcting what's happening at schools)). So, for me, it boils down to this: the only benefit to not raising your own kids is so you can make money and also make someone else a lot more money (unless you're one of the folks making the "more money"). I know what I did there, but can you really be raising your own kids when you send them away for several hours of the day (remember, we sleep for 6-8)?
No Cicero? That is one town I use to avoid in the 1980s. Though Maywood was the real pit in the western suburbs back then. Still compared to Cabrini Green in those days everyone of these places are not so bad. I went through that neighborhood regularly for work and the rule was don't stop the truck for anyone.
Hi . I live in Robbins and it’s more of an older village with older people . It was the first place the Tuskegee airmen landed. It also has some celebrities who grew up their Mr T. Dwayne Wade, Keke Palmer. 2 nationally known footballers the kenibrews also the black lady from star track. Seale Jonson and family daughters one being Saleena Johnson. Muhammad Ali’s first wife and the list goes on so this is what I tell people only people who grew up in ROBBINS will appreciate it PERIOD we don’t like outsiders nor do we care if they ever move here. We love Robbins . It’s a poor community but the love we have for our neighbors is in abundance. Everybody helps everybody and that’s better than a Walmart sitting on the corner. So sometimes peace comes with poor , and survival. U can’t put a price on peace nor can you buy it. Love where you at and make the best of it . People equate happiness with money I equate happiness to being at peace . I’m at peace in Robbins all my 60 plus years . Yeah thank GOD for small Robbins
Going forward with these type of videos you really need to show photos and video of the town your talking about as opposed to some random generic video. Also showing where the town is located on a map would help. Other than that, good video.
I was raised in Zion and I can tell you that it should be higher on this list. In addition to what you already mentioned there's also a lack of quality city services with many city streets haven't been repaved since the 90s or earlier. There's a lack of community events, for example the nostalgia days festival was shortened from 6 days to just one, the jubilee days and memorial day festivals of years past are also gone. There aren't any quality restaurants, the parks are in disrepair, the people are judgemental and rotten and the town either smells like garbage (from the garage dump) or skunk. I'm so glad I moved out when I did, I just need to get the rest of my immediate family out of there so I'd never even have to come back.
I know someone that had a house built in Zion back in the 70's. Homes were so cheap that by the 80's all the people from the Chicago ghettos were moving up there, then of course they brought their drugs and gangs with them
@@geosmith2903hell nah Harvey is the worst. Every time I go there something new happens. My cousin once found a beheaded head under a bucket. There’s so many kids with switches and assault rifles. It used to be the best place to live because of the industrial factories and now went to shit
I live in Chicago so this list is on point. I already knew Robbins and Harvey would be the top of the list. It been top of the worst for decades now. I was teenager in the 90s and nobody wanted to past though Robbins or Harvey.
Born and raised in Harvey....remember Dixie Square mall rip(used in Blues Brothers movie) and the old movie theater that was used in the movie Cooley High but that was before my time.....Harvey is to Chicago what Compton is to Los Angeles...708 joe💯
Harveys donward spiral began in the very early 70s . Sadly Harvey had a deep history to it . Local politics were Harvey , Dolton , Riverdales downfall . Very sad .
My family grew up in Sauk Village. When we moved out there it was nice (more than 30 years agoO). Now it's the pits. I never liked going through Harvey and had to be careful when in that area. Definitely a good video and good channel.
I grew up in Zion and I can tell you that it wasn't always like this. When the nuclear power plant shut down, and a lot of industries shut down in nearby Waukegan, tax revenues plummeted. It was home to me for the first 20 years of my life and I'm beyond sad that it's gotten this bad. 😢
Elgin used to be a bit of a hell hole a while back, as was Aurora, and West Chicago. However all three are becoming just Naperville branching out. Plenty of jobs and new development. Having lived in this area since 1968, I have watched the growth, sometimes good, sometimes bad. But mostly positive. However most of the places mentioned have been going downhill for decades.
i grew up in midlothian, which is rt next to robbons, down the street from harvey....worked railroad jobs in many of the towns mentioned, there is no redeeming factors in the 21st cetury about these town, many had a great boom after world war 2, but that fizzled out. lots of chicago's south side was a great place to live and raise kids....but sadly that was 60 /55 yrs ago, the good jobs left and the good people left, leaving what we have degenerated to now. bremen-class 78
@@StuckInTheKernfield I had no idea, I lived in Spring Grove for years and never thought we were even a suburb. I thought that stuck with Cook, Lake, Dupage, and Will counties. Guess I learned somthing new, btw I did enjoy the video 👍
You forgot Mayfield. Another winner. The reason for all of these towns becoming dirt holes is white flight. A lot of them were very vibrant, successful towns back in the 50s and 60s until the blacks moved in and the whites moved out. Not trying to be racist, just stating the facts. Lots of still very vibrant, successful towns near these towns, like Alsip, Midlothian, etc., all still mostly white. Definitely a pattern here.
One of them actually sounds like "suck village." The demonym for a resident of that suburb should be "Sauker." Also the demonym for Dolton should be "Dolt."
Hello I'm not understanding why Harvard is on your list that is a suburb of Mchenry il. Almost in Wisconsin. That is over an hour drive north of Chicago. 9 out of 10 I agree.
I was born and raised in Joliet and still live here. I have never seen or even really heard of meth being a problem here. That's a southern Illinois thing. Don't get me wrong there are gangs, heroin and , cocaine issues but I don't believe meth is a real problem here.
Yeah, this list makes sense. I have been to all of these cities on this list. I didn't feel safe at all. I thought Ford Heights would have been higher until I read about the population per capita statistics. Also, I wanted to say thank you for putting the missing children posters in the video.
I live right next door to Robbins in lovely Alsip, Illinois. Illinois is a place where you can buy a home, but it could deprecate or show little appreciation because of the changing neighborhoods.
you should add that all but 2 towns (Zion and Harvard which are located in far north and far west burbs respectfully ) are located in the southern burbs
Cicero is here: ua-cam.com/video/mGR-LVoyLQ8/v-deo.html Cicero, Waukegan, and Berwyn are here: ua-cam.com/video/Gft0qRvVERs/v-deo.html Rockford is here: ua-cam.com/video/M8VY5P7Ggn0/v-deo.html Elgin is here: ua-cam.com/video/Qc1DgmkdiSs/v-deo.html
You oddly didn't include the Indiana suburbs. EC and Gary should definitely be up there. Hammond isn't the greatest either. Some of these burbs are closer to the city than what's on your list.
My family has live in Cicero for 40 years it’s not a bad suburb. Most people are hardworking church goers and raise their families to be good people. Property values are good. This town has been improving since the 90s, gangs are almost gone. There are a lot of activities for seniors, teenagers and kids, including a lot of little league sports. They honor and respect seniors and veterans.
Don't even need to watch the video. #1 will be Harvey, where I was born and lived. We moved to Illinois when I was starting 4th Grade. at Washington School.
I'm surprised Maywood isn't on list. I graduated high school there in 1968. I'd like to think not being on list is sign of progress, but I doubt it. There's just so many bad places, you can't count them all.
I'm from one of these towns, lol. It's not bad, the reason it's so "poor" and low wage is literally because it's actually far out into the country, away from the city. It's more of a farm town, and wages are definitely lower, but so is cost of living. However, the school system is sub-par and there are lots of immigrants with _big_ families, and gangs become a problem among middle/high school aged kids, that's why there are a number of dropouts. I'm looking to move away from this town to a nicer suburb like Palatine or maybe even Naperville to be closer to the city and to start a family.
I wife and I thought about moving to Naperville, Downers Grove, Lisle area about 20 years ago, but the prices were outrageous even then. We live in Memphis which has is cheap to live in, no state income tax, and lower house prices. But on the other hand, DuPage county is mostly crime free, whereas Memphis is pretty much thugged up.
I am not exactly making a profound statement, but if Illinois could clean up their pension(s) disaster(s) and the related corruption and start over with a clean slate, good working people and investments would come flooding back to the state. Illinois has resources other states wish they had. No state has ever declared bankruptcy, and of course this would be test case (although Arkansas once went default during the depression) but Illinois really needs to throw in the towel. Often, success is knowing when to quit and drop a losing cause. I'm sure no gov wants to go down in history of being the gov that declared a state bankrupt, but just speaking for me, I would much rather push for bankruptcy than spend a second term in prison.
Your right on with all these towns ! Harvard was previously agricultural and industrial jobs with no need for a HS diploma . The choice of stock footage is maddening and unrelated what your talking about but I understand filming in all of those towns except Harvard would have been dangerous.
I grew up in Zion and things were fine until the projects people from Chicago when the projects down there were being torn down and that started to go downhill in the late nineties. In recent years the lack of community events.
Shit......... You should REALLY do Southern Illinois, Like Herrin or Carbondale.. (ideas) It's ghetto down here and I grew up In the Chicago suburbs.. :-/
Carbondale is in my video on dangerous college towns. ua-cam.com/video/8LcjtQbB9LQ/v-deo.html There are several other communities in that area listed in my videos on the poorest towns and poorest counties.
I know people that live in Harvard. I'd say the biggest reason there aren't many high-school graduates is boredom. There's nothing to do in that town so teenagers typically drink and do drugs at an early age out of boredom.
Zion is middle between Milwaukee and chicago. It lost its biggest employer. To bad that a city close to water is that bad. But that’s what happens when you have a closed down nuclear power plant.
@@StuckInTheKernfield I heard that too, and I assume it's correct. When the 2nd through 4th largest cities or whatever they technically are called(village, town, etc.) are Chicago suburbs that politically leaves rest of IL at a a great disadvantage.
How about Alsip,Aurora,Berwin,Oak Park,Stickney,Burbank and Naperville? I would like to know more about this suburbs. I would like to move to IL soon and I really appreciate it if you say something about this places. Thank you for your time!!
Aurora is sort of ok. So is Berwyn. Oak Park is good, although it is dangerously close to the hood (Austin). Stickney is a better than average Hispanic "hood". Naperville is a clean expensive city
Born and raised in Burbank and not once did I experience a crime. The roads are messed up but the city got scammed. However the schools are good as long as your kids want to learn. I still miss living there to this day. Oh and traffic is horrible like the absolute worse for commuting.
I would add maps to the videos showing where these burbs are. Most of them are clustered on the south side near the Indiana border. I'm not sure I'd include Harvey as a Chicago suburb since it's closer to Rockford than Chicago.
You might want to check your maps a little more carefully. I think Harvey is about 15-20 miles from downtown Chicago. The Chicago skyline is visible on clear days( I've seen on 80/294 going through Harvey). Rockford is about 70(give or take about 10 ) miles from Chicago, and the distance from Harvey would be even more. However, some Northwest and even far west suburbs likely are closer to Rockford than Chicago.
Yes, it is. Zion is located in Lake County. According to the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, Lake County is included in the Chicagoland area, which is made up of the city and suburbs.
They are in different counties - Lake and McHenry, both of which are included in the Chicago metro census designation. People who live in those counties commute into the city, which is why those two places are suburbs. You might not like it, but it's true. The suburbs stretch up into WI and over into IN also.
In the 1920s Zion, ILL. was the home of cult leader Wilbur Glen Voliva, widely hailed as the World’s Worst Geographer. He absolutely insisted that the world was flat because the Bible didn’t say it was round; he also remarked that he didn’t believe in the theory of gravity because “That’s a lot of rot, too.” He held the town in an iron grip and forbade smoking and card playing, as well as drug stores and doctors. On the other hand, he was a genial old fellow with plenty of friends in town. By the 1940s his health was failing and he gently relaxed his grip, spending more and more time in Florida. Today he is all but forgotten.
I had to pick up school children in Riverdale from a street that was riddled with bullet casings and yellow police tape from gang action the previous night. Poor kids had bullet holes in their bedrooms.😥Scary city.😳
You make good videos but I suggest choosing your video clips more carefully so they reflect what the town actually looks like along with the correct demographics
Yep, showing where the towns are on a map would be more beneficial than showing people walking through random streets
Yea, are there White people living in Robbins and Harvey now?
I agree and I live Sauk Village and what you're saying just isn't true
Yeah, while she was talking about Zion, we saw some random guy washing his face in the sink and some random girl sitting on a couch. Nothing at all about Zion.
Sauk Village, Ford Heights and Lynwood are all relatively close to one another and have vastly different histories. Even Harvey, Riverdale and Dolton are pretty much 20 minutes right up the road. Sauk Village was a clean blue collar worker town back in the day and majority white. Ford Heights was an industrious black town when it began. Lynwood was a VERY clean and quiet little place you passed on the way to River Oaks mall, you blink and you miss it. The first 7-11 I ever saw was in Lynwood.
A lot of people might not want to hear it, especially from someone like me, but there are essentially two things that decimated Sauk Village and Lynwood. Section 8 and the demolition of both the Robert Taylor homes and Cabrini Green. Period.
Ford Heights was already bad in the late 80's early 90's. They literally had a section of town called "Vietnam" it was so bad. Dolton, Riverdale and Harvey were so close to the city but not considered ("Chicago" Chicago). The people from there had to "prove" how hard they were, so it was always violent and drug infested.
When the Starter Jacket craze happened in the 90's my cousin got a gun put in his face out in Harvey, while he was walking with my aunt.
It really is sad what happened to south Chicagoland.
You are telling the truth. I was in school in Park Forest when they tore down the RT homes and Cabrini. The families moved down there in the suburbs. Education stopped so that those kids could catch up. Chicago Public Schools leaves these kids so far behind. Unfortunately, crime rates went up when they moved in. There is a stigma that section 8 residents destroy neighborhoods and it causes people with money to leave. They are taking their tax dollars with them, leaving no money for the schools. The education suffers, leaving to more people leaving in search of better for their kids. My purse was taken from me in Lynwood by the old skating rink. My sister's friend was murdered there as well. Going to the Harvey or Chicago Heights bus terminals is not a good idea. So many drunks and homeless people just hanging out. Remember the store inside the Harvey bus terminal? We came to the suburbs to have a little respite from the crime and bad education system, but it followed us down there.
Guess she was too scared to go and take real footage
No....I just didn't feel like driving 3 hours to deal with insane traffic. There are easier ways to get a headache.
Bellwood and Maywood should be on this list crime is really high in maywood and bellwood
You’re right, it’s not much different from the west side
@@beezlebub7847 Chicago City should do something about Westside tell where the neighborhood needs to get lot of work done for sure
That entire area Franklin Park, stone Park, Melrose park, Maywood, Broadview, Bellwood. I'm from Chicago but lived in the jungle in Franklin Park for awhile back when it was out of control.
I feel like Bellwood/Franklin park area has gotten better, but Maywood is still... Maywood 😆
Bullshit!! Maywood and Bellwood is nothing Ike the west side of Chicago. Yeah it's crime everywhere, but dammit I have a peace of mind! Ask yourself why those two suburbs aren't o the top ten..
8 of the 10 towns on this list are in the Southern suburbs of Chicago and have been in trouble for at least 40 years…I grew up in that area and know all those towns…it is indeed a grim landscape ……
Harvey was bad since I was a kid in the 1970s. It did not get better in the 80s and 90s from what I remember. These areas are all a fairly short distance from the most dangerous and gang ridden areas of Chicago. I doubt the gangs care about the town borders.
Harvey was probably bad in the 50’s.
Ghetto burbs are south of Chicago trust me
@@BigShawty24 Hyde park is include? I used to live there last year and moved out to nyc I want to return but I heard it’s dangerous, it is true ?
@@seomei Hyde Park is a very diverse community and very low crime its the hoods surrounding that's dangerous
I see in most of these towns it's stated that the schools are bad. I know some idiot said "it takes a village to teach a child", but in these towns it also the (so called) parents that are bad.
Like you said, it begins with the parent(s), a thirst for learning begins at home, then followed thru with parents being involved with theirs children's school. You can't teach people who don't want to learn.
@@frankkolton1780 You're right, it begins with parents, but it's also more complicated, even if we just focus on parenting. Compared to these cities, do you think all of the kids in Highland Park have ideal parents? Do you think all these corrupt politicians from wealthy environments have ideal parents? We could focus on these cities, but really, corruption and decay is everywhere but just look different.
I would argue, that unless you're homeschooling your own children, you aren't being ideal parents, yet homeschooling isn't enough. It just provides the necessary time with your children to successfully play the role you are supposed to in your children's lives. I believe it's silly that we think strangers (public school teachers) should spend more or close to the same time with children as the children's respective parents. It doesn't make biological or logical sense. It makes economic sense, and I would say social sense, too, but schools aren't bastions of healthy socialization in my mind (if you homeschool, you should be socializing your children, by the way (and if you don't homeschool, you should be correcting what's happening at schools)).
So, for me, it boils down to this: the only benefit to not raising your own kids is so you can make money and also make someone else a lot more money (unless you're one of the folks making the "more money"). I know what I did there, but can you really be raising your own kids when you send them away for several hours of the day (remember, we sleep for 6-8)?
No Cicero? That is one town I use to avoid in the 1980s. Though Maywood was the real pit in the western suburbs back then. Still compared to Cabrini Green in those days everyone of these places are not so bad. I went through that neighborhood regularly for work and the rule was don't stop the truck for anyone.
North Riverside is rapidly becoming the New Cicero.
The cops don't mess around in Cicero anymore
I watched Cicero go from Italian to Mexican in a matter of a decade. Great food and I had no worries in Cicero.
Lynwood is way nicer than Ford heights
Ford heights is next door to Chicago Heights
Hi . I live in Robbins and it’s more of an older village with older people . It was the first place the Tuskegee airmen landed. It also has some celebrities who grew up their Mr T. Dwayne Wade, Keke Palmer. 2 nationally known footballers the kenibrews also the black lady from star track. Seale Jonson and family daughters one being Saleena Johnson. Muhammad Ali’s first wife and the list goes on so this is what I tell people only people who grew up in ROBBINS will appreciate it PERIOD we don’t like outsiders nor do we care if they ever move here. We love Robbins . It’s a poor community but the love we have for our neighbors is in abundance. Everybody helps everybody and that’s better than a Walmart sitting on the corner. So sometimes peace comes with poor , and survival. U can’t put a price on peace nor can you buy it. Love where you at and make the best of it . People equate happiness with money I equate happiness to being at peace . I’m at peace in Robbins all my 60 plus years . Yeah thank GOD for small Robbins
I used to hear about Robbins as a child in the 60’s from family members in Morgan Park. Those were the days!
Exactly!!! #60472 #Mudville #RobbinsBorn&Raised
Well said,. I love that you love your community
Going forward with these type of videos you really need to show photos and video of the town your talking about as opposed to some random generic video. Also showing where the town is located on a map would help. Other than that, good video.
I actually do add maps now to my videos. This one was one of my first, and I've evolved my style since then.
Why don't you show a map of where these suburbs are? Most all of these lovely communities are in Crook County.
Chicago suburbs isn’t specific enough? 🤔
@@StuckInTheKernfield no, Chicagoland is huge! Zion is almost Wisconsin and Sauk village is almost Indiana.
I was raised in Zion and I can tell you that it should be higher on this list. In addition to what you already mentioned there's also a lack of quality city services with many city streets haven't been repaved since the 90s or earlier. There's a lack of community events, for example the nostalgia days festival was shortened from 6 days to just one, the jubilee days and memorial day festivals of years past are also gone. There aren't any quality restaurants, the parks are in disrepair, the people are judgemental and rotten and the town either smells like garbage (from the garage dump) or skunk. I'm so glad I moved out when I did, I just need to get the rest of my immediate family out of there so I'd never even have to come back.
Seriously bro they should of put Zion, Waukegan and North Chicago on here. Most of these aren’t no we’re as bad as these
I know someone that had a house built in Zion back in the 70's. Homes were so cheap that by the 80's all the people from the Chicago ghettos were moving up there, then of course they brought their drugs and gangs with them
@@geosmith2903hell nah Harvey is the worst. Every time I go there something new happens. My cousin once found a beheaded head under a bucket. There’s so many kids with switches and assault rifles. It used to be the best place to live because of the industrial factories and now went to shit
@@thome1875 amen
Zion & North Chicago is bad, but I think Maywood and Bellwood really take the cake before Zion & North Chicago
I live in Chicago so this list is on point. I already knew Robbins and Harvey would be the top of the list. It been top of the worst for decades now. I was teenager in the 90s and nobody wanted to past though Robbins or Harvey.
I grew up in Zion and I got the hell out of there back in 1980 and I’m enjoying Wickenburg, Az.
Is the summer heat as bad as it's made out to be?
People from Chicago have been making Zion their home since the 80s. Not the good people from Chicago too!
@@StuckInTheKernfield YES...115 daily in summer...Cools off to 100 at night...
@Pula Bam Yuck! Too hot and sticky for me.
My dad lived in Harvey when he was young, and it went downhill in the 1990’s, because some large job closed down and caused people to leave
As a former resident of Robbins…..i can confirm the accuracy lol.
Im surprised Zion was on here but not Waukegan or North Chicago? All these southern towns aren’t that bad they just don’t got shit to offer
Born and raised in Harvey....remember Dixie Square mall rip(used in Blues Brothers movie) and the old movie theater that was used in the movie Cooley High but that was before my time.....Harvey is to Chicago what Compton is to Los Angeles...708 joe💯
I was born and Raised in Robbins, and you are spot on with the count down from 10 to 1 Worst Suburbs in Chicago.
I grew up in lynwood in the 60s and 70s. Had a house in Sauk village in the 90s. Can't believe how things have changed
Harveys donward spiral began in the very early 70s . Sadly Harvey had a deep history to it . Local politics were Harvey , Dolton , Riverdales downfall . Very sad .
My family grew up in Sauk Village. When we moved out there it was nice (more than 30 years agoO). Now it's the pits. I never liked going through Harvey and had to be careful when in that area. Definitely a good video and good channel.
Thank you!
I remember 35 years ago when Sauk village was a nice place too!
you forgot about calumet city
Most of these cities have gotten this way through Corruption....
You need more than 10 spots on this list
Right?
I grew up in Sauk Village. You should’ve shown footage from the actual town. Especially their rusty nasty ass water tower
I am sure that your information is correct. However, you should state that the images that you are using are not from these towns.
I never claimed to be a travel vlogger.
Ford Heights doesn’t even have a police station they all left the state cops go around there
Most poverty community in the state
Ford heights is the worst. That place makes Harvey look like Hinsdale.
I grew up in robbins in the 60s and nothing has changed. Moved out in 1967. There is nowhere to shop and it has the nerve to have a mayor.
I grew up in Zion and I can tell you that it wasn't always like this. When the nuclear power plant shut down, and a lot of industries shut down in nearby Waukegan, tax revenues plummeted. It was home to me for the first 20 years of my life and I'm beyond sad that it's gotten this bad. 😢
Where's Aurora, West Chicago, Elgin?
Good ole Elgin.!
Elgin used to be a bit of a hell hole a while back, as was Aurora, and West Chicago. However all three are becoming just Naperville branching out. Plenty of jobs and new development. Having lived in this area since 1968, I have watched the growth, sometimes good, sometimes bad. But mostly positive. However most of the places mentioned have been going downhill for decades.
My uncle lives in Elgin. He's been out there for over 20 years...
Harvey Illinois my hometown ,left there in 1974. Now residing in New Bern North Carolina!
That's definitely an upgrade!
Harvey is my hometown, went to TTHS left in 1980. Live in a quiet town in Texas now.
Grew up there in the 60s70s worked at jewel at Dixie square mall left in the late 70s was a nice area back then
i grew up in midlothian, which is rt next to robbons, down the street from harvey....worked railroad jobs in many of the towns mentioned, there is no redeeming factors in the 21st cetury about these town, many had a great boom after world war 2, but that fizzled out. lots of chicago's south side was a great place to live and raise kids....but sadly that was 60 /55 yrs ago, the good jobs left and the good people left, leaving what we have degenerated to now. bremen-class 78
That's Robbins. Mildo..Bremen class 74
Life is much better in SOCAL!
Seton HS, South Holland, class of ‘68….what a mess Illinois is…..moved out of Thornton 5 years ago to Charlotte - not a fan of here!!!
The southern part of Chicagoland sucks and even in Northwest Indiana. That consists of most suburbs and satellite cities in that part of Chicagoland.
My family lived in Downers Grove for three years long ago (1967-69). We loved it there.
@@Alan-lv9rw Downers Grove is one of the better suburbs.
Can you really count Harvard as a suburb of Chicago? Really stretching the definition for that one.
According to the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, McHenry County is considered part of the Chicagoland area, so yes, Harvard is considered a suburb.
@@StuckInTheKernfield I had no idea, I lived in Spring Grove for years and never thought we were even a suburb. I thought that stuck with Cook, Lake, Dupage, and Will counties. Guess I learned somthing new, btw I did enjoy the video 👍
No one in Chicago considers anything that far out to be part of Chicagoland. Instead Maywood should've been on this list.
@@adrianraygoza9221 You're more than welcome to make your own list, if you don't like mine.
My uncle lives there
You forgot Mayfield. Another winner. The reason for all of these towns becoming dirt holes is white flight. A lot of them were very vibrant, successful towns back in the 50s and 60s until the blacks moved in and the whites moved out. Not trying to be racist, just stating the facts. Lots of still very vibrant, successful towns near these towns, like Alsip, Midlothian, etc., all still mostly white. Definitely a pattern here.
Some people can't deal with reality, that's why certain subcultures keep getting worse. Blame everyone but those responsible.
Mayfield is a township west of sycamore
One of them actually sounds like "suck village." The demonym for a resident of that suburb should be "Sauker." Also the demonym for Dolton should be "Dolt."
Hello I'm not understanding why Harvard is on your list that is a suburb of Mchenry il. Almost in Wisconsin. That is over an hour drive north of Chicago. 9 out of 10 I agree.
According to the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, McHenry County is part of their area.
Surprised no mention of Joliet. Basically the Meth Mecca of the Chicagoland area!
I was born and raised in Joliet and still live here.
I have never seen or even really heard of meth being a problem here. That's a southern Illinois thing.
Don't get me wrong there are gangs, heroin and , cocaine issues but I don't believe meth is a real problem here.
What about Maywood?????
I still live in Riverdale...on the border of Harvey and Colton. They just killed my friend sid at the citgo on 144th st. Maybe it's time to move.
I can tell you right now without looking at the video, Harvey, Riverdale, Chicago heights, Dolton. But let's see what put down. Lol
Yeah, this list makes sense. I have been to all of these cities on this list. I didn't feel safe at all. I thought Ford Heights would have been higher until I read about the population per capita statistics.
Also, I wanted to say thank you for putting the missing children posters in the video.
Really u felt in danger in Lynwood huh.........Lmao
I live right next door to Robbins in lovely Alsip, Illinois. Illinois is a place where you can buy a home, but it could deprecate or show little appreciation because of the changing neighborhoods.
these videos are amazing and they inspire me to learn more about the place where I currently live
Thank you. That means a lot. 🥰
I was looking at an apartment in south shore on 72nd Place. I don't know the area, is it a place where people want to live?
you should add that all but 2 towns (Zion and Harvard which are located in far north and far west burbs respectfully ) are located in the southern burbs
Where are Joliet, Rockford, Waukegan, Elgin, Maywood, Markham, and Cicero/ Berwin ?? Way worst there then all those areas you mentioned
Cicero is here: ua-cam.com/video/mGR-LVoyLQ8/v-deo.html
Cicero, Waukegan, and Berwyn are here: ua-cam.com/video/Gft0qRvVERs/v-deo.html
Rockford is here: ua-cam.com/video/M8VY5P7Ggn0/v-deo.html
Elgin is here: ua-cam.com/video/Qc1DgmkdiSs/v-deo.html
Rockford is not a Chicago suburb
You oddly didn't include the Indiana suburbs. EC and Gary should definitely be up there. Hammond isn't the greatest either. Some of these burbs are closer to the city than what's on your list.
"Chicago Suburbs"
Let not for get CICERO IL
They're going to be on my upcoming video.
My family has live in Cicero for 40 years it’s not a bad suburb. Most people are hardworking church goers and raise their families to be good people. Property values are good. This town has been improving since the 90s, gangs are almost gone. There are a lot of activities for seniors, teenagers and kids, including a lot of little league sports. They honor and respect seniors and veterans.
Except for Zion and Harvard which is right on the Wisconsin border. The rest are in the South suburbs which are predominantly African-American
Don't even need to watch the video. #1 will be Harvey, where I was born and lived.
We moved to Illinois when I was starting 4th Grade. at Washington School.
Lynwood??? Lynwood is fine!
That was a good call on robins. If you get pulled over in robins they have there own court. Where your all ready guilty.
Phoenix Illinois is a nasty place too.
Facts! Lowkey its really Harvey but yea
I'm surprised Maywood isn't on list. I graduated high school there in 1968. I'd like to think not being on list is sign of progress, but I doubt it. There's just so many bad places, you can't count them all.
I'm from one of these towns, lol.
It's not bad, the reason it's so "poor" and low wage is literally because it's actually far out into the country, away from the city. It's more of a farm town, and wages are definitely lower, but so is cost of living. However, the school system is sub-par and there are lots of immigrants with _big_ families, and gangs become a problem among middle/high school aged kids, that's why there are a number of dropouts.
I'm looking to move away from this town to a nicer suburb like Palatine or maybe even Naperville to be closer to the city and to start a family.
They gangbang in palatine too. Mfs got shot and there was gang fights in my front yard palatine pd got a gang unit and everuything
I wife and I thought about moving to Naperville, Downers Grove, Lisle area about 20 years ago, but the prices were outrageous even then. We live in Memphis which has is cheap to live in, no state income tax, and lower house prices. But on the other hand, DuPage county is mostly crime free, whereas Memphis is pretty much thugged up.
You need like a top 25 or something.
Perhaps 😁
Dolton and Riverdale were nice places up until the 90s. Too bad what happens.
I am not exactly making a profound statement, but if Illinois could clean up their pension(s) disaster(s) and the related corruption and start over with a clean slate, good working people and investments would come flooding back to the state. Illinois has resources other states wish they had. No state has ever declared bankruptcy, and of course this would be test case (although Arkansas once went default during the depression) but Illinois really needs to throw in the towel. Often, success is knowing when to quit and drop a losing cause.
I'm sure no gov wants to go down in history of being the gov that declared a state bankrupt, but just speaking for me, I would much rather push for bankruptcy than spend a second term in prison.
In the Peoples Republic of Illinois it's going to get worse before it gets better.
HARVEYWORLD
Evanston-Skokie resident here. Wasn't in either the top 10 best or worst videos. I feel so average and forgotten!
Your right on with all these towns ! Harvard was previously agricultural and industrial jobs with no need for a HS diploma . The choice of stock footage is maddening and unrelated what your talking about but I understand filming in all of those towns except Harvard would have been dangerous.
Not to mention that I live 3 hours away from there, and I have two jobs, so I don't have time to go and take footage.
I grew up in Zion and things were fine until the projects people from Chicago when the projects down there were being torn down and that started to go downhill in the late nineties. In recent years the lack of community events.
You got that right. And lately our big city of Chicago may be the WORST city in the United States .
Shit......... You should REALLY do Southern Illinois, Like Herrin or Carbondale.. (ideas) It's ghetto down here and I grew up In the Chicago suburbs.. :-/
Carbondale is in my video on dangerous college towns. ua-cam.com/video/8LcjtQbB9LQ/v-deo.html
There are several other communities in that area listed in my videos on the poorest towns and poorest counties.
There are UA-cam videos that list the worst counties and cities in IL and Herrin and Jackson County are in it.
Her video says in the title, 10 worst CHICAGO suburbs. Other cities in IL are listed in other videos.
Don't leave out Granite City.
I grew up in Lansing il in the 70s , was a nice safe place. I hear it’s not anymore!
You have to show pictures of Ford heights it’s terrible
Joliet il
I know people that live in Harvard. I'd say the biggest reason there aren't many high-school graduates is boredom. There's nothing to do in that town so teenagers typically drink and do drugs at an early age out of boredom.
Moving to the suburbs to escape intercity crime is no longer a option .
It never was. See suburban Atlanta. 🤣
Applauding to Posen IL. That was a survival
Zion is middle between Milwaukee and chicago. It lost its biggest employer. To bad that a city close to water is that bad. But that’s what happens when you have a closed down nuclear power plant.
I read in the paper this weekend that Rockford is now the fourth largest city in iLLInois. Which towns have outgrown Rockford?
What I've seen shows Rockford in fifth place after Chicago, Aurora, Joliet, and Naperville.
@@StuckInTheKernfield I heard that too, and I assume it's correct. When the 2nd through 4th largest cities or whatever they technically are called(village, town, etc.) are Chicago suburbs that politically leaves rest of IL at a a great disadvantage.
What about Blue Island and Mattson.
What about Arlington Heights and Schaumburg
Love your videos, but I have to admit that is depressing, too bad that it's true. I would love a video showing cities and towns around Kankakee County
How about Alsip,Aurora,Berwin,Oak Park,Stickney,Burbank and Naperville?
I would like to know more about this suburbs. I would like to move to IL soon and I really appreciate it if you say something about this places.
Thank you for your time!!
Aurora is sort of ok. So is Berwyn. Oak Park is good, although it is dangerously close to the hood (Austin). Stickney is a better than average Hispanic "hood". Naperville is a clean expensive city
@@geekmega7527 Thank you for your reply. Now I can make a better decision.
Born and raised in Burbank and not once did I experience a crime. The roads are messed up but the city got scammed. However the schools are good as long as your kids want to learn. I still miss living there to this day. Oh and traffic is horrible like the absolute worse for commuting.
Naperville is nice because they keep their Taxes high good school districts too
Robbins is where my family is from my dad and aunt and cousins still live there and I spent 8 or 9 years in ford heights that easy greasy baby 😂
I would add maps to the videos showing where these burbs are. Most of them are clustered on the south side near the Indiana border. I'm not sure I'd include Harvey as a Chicago suburb since it's closer to Rockford than Chicago.
I do add graphics now. This video was done within my first two months of having a channel.
You might want to check your maps a little more carefully. I think Harvey is about 15-20 miles from downtown Chicago. The Chicago skyline is visible on clear days( I've seen on 80/294 going through Harvey). Rockford is about 70(give or take about 10 ) miles from Chicago, and the distance from Harvey would be even more. However, some Northwest and even far west suburbs likely are closer to Rockford than Chicago.
I wonder if you meant Harvard rather than Harvey. Harvard, I'm sure is closer to Rockford.
Did you mean Harvard? Because Harvey is 15 min outside Chicago 20 min maybe if you stay on S. Halsted.
Rockford, Illinois?
Rockford is about 80 miles from Chicago.
Harvey is much closer to Chicago than Rockford would be.
You Don’t know what we have in Robbins I make 3x times what you stated and my home is valued at over 180k don’t play wit us
U forgot cal park only if u live dere u kno
Stone Park should be on this list
You forgot Markham and Country club hills
moved from thr NS TO THE SS WHEN I WAS 5 GREW UP IN THR SS SUBURBS SOME ARE HORRIBLE THEN BACK IN THE DAY
Zion is not a suburb of Chicago. 🙄
Yes, it is. Zion is located in Lake County. According to the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, Lake County is included in the Chicagoland area, which is made up of the city and suburbs.
It is apparent that the concept of a metropolitan area might as well be quantum physics to some people..
Another good one!
Thanks again!
Follow up? 2023 stats, real pictures.
I'll see what I can do.
Zion is as close to Milwaukee as it is to Chicago and Harvard is 75 miles north these are not suburbs
According to the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, they are.
@@StuckInTheKernfield yeah Chicagoland but not a suburb that's way too far away even different counties
They are in different counties - Lake and McHenry, both of which are included in the Chicago metro census designation. People who live in those counties commute into the city, which is why those two places are suburbs. You might not like it, but it's true. The suburbs stretch up into WI and over into IN also.
They are on the METRA commuter railroad so it is considered a suburb. Harvard is the last stop. The line design is on goes even further into Kenosha.
not burbs of chicago, not even in cook county
The suburban area encompasses a lot more than just Cook County. There are suburbs in Indiana.
Chicago Heights
How about Phoenix and Dixmoor?
Wow no one mentioned Summit?
Elias Perez is safe and sound been safe and sound please edit!
You should have included Noethwest Indiana suburbs too. They are about 20% of the burbs.
Gary and East Chicago. What else is there that would make this list? Maybe Lake Station? The other towns aren't that bad.
HARVEY GAÑGS
In the 1920s Zion, ILL. was the home of cult leader Wilbur Glen Voliva, widely hailed as the World’s Worst Geographer. He absolutely insisted that the world was flat because the Bible didn’t say it was round; he also remarked that he didn’t believe in the theory of gravity because “That’s a lot of rot, too.” He held the town in an iron grip and forbade smoking and card playing, as well as drug stores and doctors. On the other hand, he was a genial old fellow with plenty of friends in town. By the 1940s his health was failing and he gently relaxed his grip, spending more and more time in Florida. Today he is all but forgotten.
It should be Zi-en not Zy-on
Potato Potahto
You missed Chicago Heights. Total Crap Hole!
riverdale I a give you that!
I had to pick up school children in Riverdale from a street that was riddled with bullet casings and yellow police tape from gang action the previous night. Poor kids had bullet holes in their bedrooms.😥Scary city.😳
nothing you said was to uplift
i dont think it was meant to be uplifting.