More Secrets than we thought! - Dawntrail Extended Teaser Analysis
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We've seen the Nutkin in a context affiliating it with Y'shtola once before, though it was a little indirect. After Emet-Selch brings her back from the Lifestream in the Rak'tika Greatwood, and conjures up some clothes to keep her from being naked in public this time, the group gathers to discuss things, and if you pay attention, you can find the nutkin lurking nearby -- maybe disappointed that it didn't get to protect Y'shtola's modesty this time? It's the only place it appears in Shadowbringers, and I think most people overlook it.
So that means, if the nutkin is present someone of the Party is naked?
@@Xaiclun That's the impression I've got! It seems to relish its job of being a living censor bar.
So a couple of things I've noticed in this trailer as well; Firstly is the hard cut between the fight with the beast and Estinien. When the water washes over them it hard cuts to the group being out of the water immediately, if anything this might be where we get the reveal of the new caster and possibly Krile. The other being the voice on the boat being perhaps the one at the end of 6.5 Pretty sure that's our F-Hrothgar reveal.
Hopefully.
Great vid like always! I am stoked for the Dawntrail story, Viper, & the other new unknown job! New adventures are on the way, praise the Mother crystal!!!
9:47 JESUS CHRIST ALL MIGHTY 😱
I’m way more excited for the new caster so any crumbs or hints of what it might be is what I’m most looking forward to. Also krile’s new outfit.
im still wondering why they are hiding Alphi in each shot. I have a small theory that they changed his hairstyle or he got his grow spurt in some way or another.
I guarantee you he's just standing too close to the fem hrothgar that is likely on the boat with us. You can see him in brief shots at the end and start.
Given what we saw in 6.50 story, I don't believe there will be much time between 6.55 and 7.0. Seems like it will be pretty immediate.
He actually is visible at the end and you can see nothing special about him. Same outfit and hairstyle, and much shorter than the PC.
Most likely he is featured with Krile in whatever scene is going to show us green mage or w/e. And him being absent is just because they're blocking this scene for a reveal. We know Krile is going to play a much more major role in the story, and alphinaud is always front and center. So there will likely be a lot of Krile + Alphi scenes in DT.
@@bagnetic8910 Could also be Krile they're trying to hide - especially since her height would make her invisible in external shots from the boat.
Alphinaud has a talent for drawing.. which might be related to the other new job. Though he already got his job highlight with Sage, much like Alisae got it with Red Mage... so perhaps not.
I was looking forward to that video. :) I've been gnawing at your first Dawntrail Trailer Analysis for months now! 😂
The Nutkin reminds me of Ice Age... and I wonder if we'll either see that Squir-chilla's trials of finding the Golden Nutkin in the unforgiving jungle of the southern New World and / or if it'll be a major character in the MSQ.
Watch it being part of a Manderville quest, where it accidentally triggers a landslide by dislodging the Golden Nut, right as Hildibrand is standing on the sliding part of it :P
Viper is going to be fun all the dark knight Guts cosplayers can fight the Viper Kirito cosplayer for the title of black swordsman.
About the nutkin. It also could have a connection to Thancred's master, whom wasn't able to meet us in person and only left a letter to us back in Sharlyan.
So, I'm personally hoping that that nutkin is either Thancred's master in disguise or is the owner of that particular nutkin. :3
I like the quick gesture from the Mamool'ja to Alisaie. Biting towards its open hand to say "It's good food" across any language barrier.
Thick steaks being grilled, sugar apples, and crispy tacos in this trailer. They must love the food textures after treating us to multiple meals in Sharlayan and a meat-filled bun being pulled in half.
As someone who has played a dual-wielding hunter since the Ranger in EverQuest, Viper is EXACTLY what I have been begging for since I first tried FF14 back in 2.3.
You and me both
🤝
Make it three
What if the secret area is ...Zanarkand! The contest could pit the pro technology faction vs anti technology faction like Al Bhed vs Yevonites in FFX
The corruption might actually be ceruleum since it has been mentioned in the blue mage quest
I admit that I think first that new melee is Corsair, but seeing Viper reminded me how much I liked Rogue and when that job turned out to be Ninja. Well lets just say not big fan of ninjutsu when have really poor name memory. So maybe Viper gives that same feeling than Rogue. 😊
Its really nice to see the WoL smiling in a trailer after so long
I can't wait to play Endwalker as a Viper next summer
Being broke has paid off
I am definitely planning to spend 30 aetherpool on a pair of lightsabers on day 1
I'm excited for viper and the new caster class
The typical Final Fantasy community. New job? ehh, new land? ehh, cuddly nutkin? AWWW YEAH!
2:45 the sohm ahl boss does have the purple glowing frills, it just takes a while for him to enter that state. I've only ever seen it once, and you rarely see it these days because everyone is running the dungeon with capped stats, and people really want the fight done quickly because he has no aoe markers and deceptive hit boxes. When I saw it, my first thought was Godzilla.
Can't wait for 7.0 to come out, so we can start to speculate on 8.0 jobs :D
My guess will be for Puppetmaster (using wrenches as weapons and a job-changing mechanical pet, starting from Garlemald) and Songstress (song-based healer, starting from Mor Dhona)
YoshiP stated that he won't expansion-lock again any new class like they did with DRK, AST and MCH. So, no new class will be starting from any other place other than Ul'Dah, Limsa Lominsa or Gridania.
Anyway, puppet master seems interesting
8:55 hey, why you gotta spill my secret super original plan like that?!
Always great to see your in depth analyses! Worthy of note from this new trailer is that they changed Urianger's design likely to better match the final graphical update.
I'm also a Viper enjoyer and I'll try my best to level it up for MSQ! I always liked the Rogue aesthetic and having a version of it with less "magic" elements is definitely a plus for me.
For the new caster job. Are you still on geomancer as the new job for 7.0 or are you on the green mage train now? Hope u respond. I am very curious to know. Good video :)
Based on the AST job questline during STB, I find it more likely for geomancer to be a healer than a caster dps.
@@iPlayOnSpica Can you explain more where you got that theory from? Historically Geomancers have always been casters I. Final fantasy. Never healers. Also in the Astro quest line the geomancer cannot heal.
Its interesting, I've heard darkness and corruption pop up as explanations for the purple colored energy in the previews but nobody discussing what I feel is the most obvious explanation: Lightning aether.
The Viper brings just so many Bloodborne-Vipes with the weapon switching forms, they're called Hunters and the Job-Gear, I simply NEED to play this class. Might actually be the one for which I will trade in my spear.
Personally, I could see the weapon glam given by the Dawntrail Collector's Edition being a version of Zidane's Mage Masher for Viper.
I wish Viper would use the off-hand slot I want to mix and match swords this isnt like ninia where the swords are tiny these are full sized swords that we could theoretically mix and match
Excited to put my Zidane glam to good use
First time when I saw the teaser trailer and noticed the purple "glow" around Estinien I made the connection between the purple in the area as well.
i hope he's not kinda "corrupted" with this stuff, or..maybe it gives him (and others) even more power.
The purple stuff might be the so called "gold" of the city...
I just wondered why they made no secret to hide the purple glow around Estinien. He also seems to be the one who is divided from the other Scions.
I think the name viper is really interesting, I am by no means a final fantasy veteran so maybe there are job names like it but I don’t know of any. Considering how many jobs names are pretty straightforward, like [verb]er or [color]mage having a job named after an animal stands out. Especially because, while snakes do have two fangs and attack swiftly. The analogy breaks down with the dual blade mode.
It could have some lore implications, like a sprit or god venerated by the people that created the practice. It could reference some power the viper has like poisons or the ability to channel the aether of animals/snakes. Or it could just be that Yoshida and the team just wanted to have a very distinct name for the fun of it. Who can say.
Most of your points were covered in the fan fest, though not heavily. Just the basis.
Since you pointed out the purple haze/liquid as potential corruption in combination with the concept art with what appears to be Ceruleum, the echoes of FF7 come to mind (granted I haven't played the original and have only played the first part of the remake with the intent to go and play the original in the future) it seems possible that the story could be heading in a similar direction? But that's just speculation.
It's probably just a statue, but when Urianger looks up to the tower, there is a figure standing way up on top. Since everything else is so symmetrical it stands out. But I never managed to figure out if it's a living creature or a statue.
Lol. Nutkin REALLY reminds me of the squirrel from Ice Age.
My theory why the nutkin is there: Thancred is naked again.
Jokes aside: we had a minion following us around in the last two extensions already. The shoebill in Endwalker and the Axolotl in Endwalker.
The blue energy you talk about only 3 minutes into the video was already implied to be ceruleum in the keynotes.
Compare the boots of the mysterious guest in the final scenes of Growing Light with the Geomancer’s leg gear from FFXI and it matches. Additionally it has a symbol on it that is similar to the symbols on the hat of the FFXI Geomancer. It could still be green mage but I think it will borrow from Geomancer heavily. It also makes sense that after channeling the will of the star for a full expansion Krile can now use the star itself and its elements. Also some of the non-FFXI geomancer gear looks Andean/Native enough to be at home in the new world.
I just thought it was a bigger version of Bone Crawler in Stormblood who has the exact same glowing effects when fighting it
I’m hyped as hell for Viper, but I’m not gonna lie, going into NA fan fest I was waiting patiently for the Blitzballer job ;-;
I'm really not a fan of meelee jobs whatsoever (that being dps or tank) but viper looks cool! I'm still anxiously looking forward to the new Kr- erm, caster.
I wonder if the purple corruption is similar to ff16s aether floods? Like XVI’s magic and aether system is similar enough to xivs, however I wonder if the corals are more influenced by cerulean. I don’t think it’s been 100% said cerulean js liquid aether, but it’s a natural resource that needs to be fracked and can power aetheric devices/simulate magicks
guys what if the yeehaw town is actually named erenville
With all the weird crossovers we've been getting don't be surprised if we get an Sao crossover
Tank mains for life!
Am I psycho or does it feel like they’re gonna put something in the reflection of the Nutkin’s eye in a future edition of this trailer?
I wish the world questing was better in ffxiv, would be nice if side quest were more worth while and acted as a means to unlock msq content
0 Chance Alisae and Alphinaud will be on the same side of the whole "divided scions" thing.
Ever since they brought up divided scions, I REALLY hope they let us pick a side rather than being shoehorned down one or the other. They can set it up so whatever dungeons are the same on both paths, but give me a reason to new game+ the expansion, or at the very least, if there's going to be a choice for the scions, let me pick the side I more agree with... or even just pick the companions whose friendships and opinions I value most.
@@anthonydelfino6171 I wouldn't be surprised if we play both sides.
@@anthonydelfino6171eh that would be impossible cause the devs are lazy, but cool idea tho
@@sagakun06 Devs aren't lazy - but there isn't much of a choice system in the game and the last few times they tried it in ShB's it wasn't well received so they scrapped it.
It just doesn't work for the game to suddenly have choices that impact the future - not every game needs that. It's not objectively a good thing its just a different style.
This game has always relied on a cinematic experience. And that's when the game is at its best - far better for them to focus on creating more cinematic experiences where a carefully crafted narrative comes together than gimmicky rpg choice systems.
@@sagakun06 I wouldn't say laziness... I mean have you SEEN the people working on this game at any event? Especially leading up to the expansions, they just look absolutely exhausted. They absolutely put in a lot of hard work.
I am more inclined to think that they wouldn't do it because of the extra work it would take in terms of script writing, animation, and voice acting.
But they can still set up the story in such a way that both options ultimately have the same outcome. For example if we're there for the succession, and the scions are divided between the candidates only to have a third candidate come in at the end and succeed to the throne over both initial options. They could also have whatever dungeons happen along the way be a part of both stories. Think like if we had a choice to side with any of the Au Ra tribes before the Nadaam, but still had to complete the trials Bardam's Mettle and tame a Yol no matter who we were competing alongside.
THEY CHANGED URIANGER'S FACE!
Viper suits my fantasy of edward kenway perfectly,im happy
it shouldve been musketeer but viper is cool too ;-;
Ive noticed a mamool female design that distively different from the males. smooth salamander like skin.
I'm hoping beast master comes into play or geomancer
Do we have evidence to think the conflict sides are going to be "native vs travelers?" It seemed to me there was to be a conflict on the island between groups of those already living there and I'll honestly be a little disappointed if we go back into the "native vs outsider/imperialism" trope, real world parallels to the contenent aside. Plus, it would likely be hard to give any gray areas to a story like that and justify a scion split.
Huge analysis comment here, so spoilers for everything MSQ to this point (Also gave this a lot of thought so 1000% sure I'm correct... So read ahead at your discretion):
Thancred's already feeling alienated and irrelevant. :( Remember Warriors of Light, if Thancred asks, you know about his Nutkin boon companion. Given I played Dark Knight during Shadowbringers and Paladin during Endwalker just like the promo, when I finally got to have Thancred show up during the Duty Support for Aetherfont, he wasn't in the party - and the way he tells Zero the obvious? ... I feel like that's where they're going with his story arc. While Y'shtola is living life to the fullest every expansion, no matter what the aetherial sea has to say about it, Thancred's getting... tired. :( (Never mind how his heroics went in Ultima Thule compared to Y'shtola.
Furthermore, the lyrics give a hint at the extremes going beyond this merely being a competition for the Scions.
"We're gonna walk right to the end, from a trial who we'll face. Turn back and transcend, or then give me a sign of faith."
Turn back and transcend (Light/Umbral/Stasis), or give me a sign of faith (Dark/Astral/Change)
I feel the others are along for the ride. But even their clothing's color schemes (as well as the emphasis on wearing white during Thancred's short story on the Lodestone, from Tales of the Shadow) contrasting with Y'shtola's deepest black... (note, her short story is also worth reading from Tales of the Storm. Even in the short stories, there's a keen contrast between them) It's going to reflect their ideologies. Now with everyone who's guided them on their quest to save the Realm since joining the Circle of Knowing since the days of Louisoix either joining the lifestream or becoming more colleague than mentor... how do these two extremely opposite characters get along? The perfectionist purveyor of knowledge taking life as she will, or the devil-may-care debonair finally feeling himself care hugely, muddled with grief and anger, and responsibility, especially for Ryne after over a decade of being the center of it.
Ultimately, I think Y'shtola's reckless abandon will catch up with her (especially in contrast to Athena's story arc in Pandaemonium, if you see how that ended), up against Thancred finally reaching a boiling point. Remember, he was the first of us to sympathize with Fandaniel at the Great Works...
I wouldn't post this anywhere else, but this is where we're exploring what we think will be coming in 7.0... And that's what I think it'll be.
Y'shtola - Dark
Thancred - Light
Not to mention, the fact that the Thirteenth and the First are a linked chain now, offering light to dark and dark to light, this contest is likely the domino to set off a new conflict of Light and Dark.
That's my conclusion. If I'm wrong, I'd be fascinated to see how the writers make use of the points I point out. But that's the root of the main conflict I think. And our answer for this contest will define who we are now to the reflections, not just the Source and the First: the Warrrior of Light, or the Warrior of Darkness.
Any updates on ff14 being single player?
I don't have a problem with Viper but I wouldn't be surprise if there are people moaning and groaning that it's another class with swords.
Krile is non combat. She we dont even know he job for sure, much less get a Change. Allise will likely be the new Caster Job. She complains about lack of personal growth towards the end of shadowbringers
They actually changed how uriang looks
thought: the nutkin isn't a squirrel, it's a chinchilla. they're native to the Andes mountains which would mean it would have every reason to exist in Tural
also you're showing your tank main mindset when you bring up monk stances.... monk hasn't had stances for a while now ;)
This theory based only on one concept and my wild imagination, but I want to share it nonetheless.
Listen - ALIENS. What if this violet colored structure in one of concept is actually a base belonged to the race, who (crash)landed on Etheirys long time ago, perhaps even escaping from Meteion? Somehow, they detected that great force destroying prospering stars approaching them and they decided to flee, it would explain why this "purple nation" look so distinct from any old civ we know. Not ancients, not allagans either.
As to why this camp looks suspiciously military-like (not unlike garlean castrum), perhaps there was some internal struggle between members of the race - some wanted to peacefully coexist with natives, some wanted to retake for themselves by force. The latter won in this theoretic conflict and started to build armies and machines (Eliminator enemy definitely their creation). Somehow they went extinct - or destroyed by opposition - before they can reach three continents from their crashsite on Tural.
I won't be surprised if this race is a predecessor of modern Mamool Ja.
But hey, it's just a theory
Maybe a Karellian colonyship that left before Meteion arrived at their planet? Like Midgardsormr, they realized their homeworld was beyond recovery, so they explored other stars, only to encounter the devastation that the Meteia also witnessed, until finally ending on Eitherys. Yet while they were able to build a city, it was destroyed in one of the earlier Rejoinings. (Maybe Hyurs are descendants of these Karellians... we never actually get to see their faces during Endwalker...)
Viper seems very techinical, higher skill ceiling.
hope they finally remove positionals tho
I'm still not really that excited about Viper, largely because I kind of think that swords have already been heavily overplayed in FF14 (and most fantasy settings) as a 'safe bet' weapon. Not only do we already have a dual-blade wielder in ROG/NIN, but we have PLD, DRK, SAM, RDM (and arguably GNB too) who also already use swords/swordlikes in general. I would have loved to have seen them give some other weapon type a bit of love, such as an actual warhammer/mace user (be it 1 or 2 handed), maybe flails to add some extra flare, or possibly even a Whip user since imo it would suit the 'explorer' image quite fittingly considering we're basically going on an "Indiana Jones" style adventure in search of a City of Gold. lol
Either way I'm sure Viper will be fun in it's own right, but I always get a little disappointed when fantasy games have twice as many swords as any other type of weapon since there are SO many to choose from throughout history.
The funny thing to me is, until the Viper reveal, I've seen people requesting it for years. As recently as last expansion, people were asking for "another sword DPS Job, maybe a dual wielder or something" saying we only had SAM and complaining because the other sword Jobs were all tanks (PLD, DRK, and GNB all using a type of sword) and debateably RDM (since most people consider its melee to be a small portion of its kit and it to be borederline using a magic staff instead of sword).
People have also been asking for a rogue/thief/swashbuckler Job for years now, complaining that ROG upgrades to NIN instead of something more like a D&D Rogue.
Then Viper was revealed and...I've seen tons of people complaining. Granted, lots of people seem extremely excited about it, it's just such an odd dichotomy to me since people have been asking for it for literally years now, but now that it's here, people are coming out of the woodwork to say it's uninspired, an overused weapon type, "do we really need another sword user", and so on.
I do agree more and less "normal" weapons are always nice to see (I love seeing axes more, and stuff like flails, spears, halberds, maces, staves as an actual melee weapon, whips, etc), but it's just very strange to me to see so many people saying this NOW.
Still disappointed it isn't Corsair
GIVE ME MY MUSCLE CAT MOMS, GAME.
I feel pretty neutral about viper. But the setting alone is enough to excite me
If gaming has taught me anything, then it's to seriously reign in any 'hype' and expectations. It's okay to be excited, but raising the bar will typically not end well.
Not even in FFXIV. The new job will probably be a very cool addition glamour-wise, that has me excited. As for its gameplay: I won't know until I play it.
And Endwalker has taught me how important gameplay is, since my preferred playstyle had been almost completely nuked (again). In the past 3 expansions and 6 years, Endwalker is - by far - the expansion I played _the least_ other than MSQ progression on my main and progressing on an alt.
I have a very bad feeling about the kirito job
I really think it was a missed opportunity to call the new job Swashbuckler rather than Viper.
Love your video as always!
Personally, I was disappointed in Viper. I really didn’t want more swords. There are so many weapons they could have used to provide different flavor and glams. Swords… we already have: Paladin, Dark Knight, Gunbreaker, Samurai, Red Mage, and Ninja (let’s be real, most of Ninjas weapons in the game are long enough to be swords, they aren’t daggers any more).
Something like whips or nunchucks or 3-section staff/spear would have been suuuuper cool imo (and more snake/viper like tbh). So many weapons out there and they did more swords.
at least the sword attach together that something somewhat unique
its a great time to be an omni-melee rn. personally, i think viper is infinitely cooler than the original speculation of corsair, as i hate pirate archetypes.
great video
Do you really honestly think Viper looks interesting?
It looks like the most uninspired rote job I could possibly imagine. I cannot imagine what specifically anybody is excited by.
That's like uh.. your opinion, man
Pretty uninspiring.
you could be an outlier, most statics are fighting for whom will use Viper next tier (heck, they kicked me out of melee to give the viper slot to one of our tanks haha)
I know a lot of people are really happy to have a dual blade of this style. I don't think we know enough about the skillset to find that inspired or not, but people being happy to see a weapon they want is very valid. A weapon is probably the most valid thing to be excited about for a new job when you think about a job's identity and theme.
When you say it is uninspired what you mean is it isn’t flashy. You can’t gauge the gameplay yet which at the end of the day is what actually determines the level of complexity and, for me at least, fun. For all of its flashiness the reaper, like the summoner, is a slow brain dead job that gets boring fast. And that’s not inspired it’s style over substance. I don’t mind that the job doesn’t glow in the dark. If the loop is fun I am in.
Another big fat L for classes. When will we get a new heavy armor 2handed dps with a real weapon (reaper LMAO!)