Me two damn there shit is mean as hell and using only two carbs he keeps saying carbs are expensive well create that’s the point behind doing things like this
heya Migs , Now this is 100% better , a more slower pace and more thought going into what you are doing , Stock airbox can be used for a time being thing , gotta remember you running it without an airbox the engine gets a lot more air but still has the stock jets so its going to be out, spluttery , high idle etc etc. i would say throw the stock box on for now atleast you will know everything works well that way. ( dual carb mod uses 2x mikuni VM34 carbs but they will need to be re-jetted ). Please Please please look into using the original brake caliper , i want you to be 100% safe buddy and that one you have fitted is just NOT fit for the purpose intended. you now have a 100 weight motor sitting in that frame and when your doing upwards 70mph thats a lot of forward momentum that small brake caliper has to deal with, its going to overheat seize up and brake fade on you leaving you with no stopping power what so ever.
It's a gravity feed fuel system and any fuel pressure over 1 psi will disrupt the kneedle an seats then leak fuel constantly out the overflow. Either a bypass regulator or a return line back to the tank will work with that fuel pump.
You need to learn something about metals before you start welding random stuff together, you can't weld brass and steel together, steel to steel, aluminum to aluminum, and brass is either braized or soldered. Watch some welding videos on here, they help put a lot with techniques and how to get the right settings for your welder.
Put a tee in the line to carbs so excess pressure can go back to tank.otherwise it will over pressure the needle valves and flood carb unless it's under about 3 psi.
I really enjoy watching you work through your build. A lot of learning experiences for you. The one thing I would recommend is not promising a test drive in every video or making an assumption on when you will. Take your time buddy build that thing right and work steady. It's coming along nicely and please make sure you have excellent working brakes before the first drive. I've seen way to many accidents in home builds...
I've learned that on karts it's better to use pattle shifters it's just like liking brakes just get the mount for the steering wheel and and hook it to a ball cable and you should be good if not you could use bicycle levers and cables that could work too but it's ur project take as much time as need man 💯🙏
Have you considered mounting your clutch on your shift lever. You might even be able to use the handle bars from the motorcycle for your shifter lever and then put the original clutch lever back on.
And reuse the MC clutch cable. Win- Win here! As well as sharpening up your welding knowledge, get a bolt strength chart and learn to use it; the junk box bolts you used on the sprocket repair are several different grades and may well fail again- what you need are bolts that have a high shear strength and I don't see that in your present assembly. Read up, be safe and know that all those pesky math classes and geometry will now give you tools to figure out your "car" problems! Good Care, Good Luck, and May the Force be with You!
Ok I’m confused here, why is he running a fuel pump when he could mount the gas tank above the carbs and have it gravity fed. What am I Not understanding here?
about the fuel pump, i tried that one with a 450cc Yamaha engine, did put a little too much pressure for those carbs, simple test, just let it run, if the carbs overflow, you need a regulator, if not, its fine, i made a bypass from the pressure line, with a brakeline, back to the tank, so that the puel pump can circulate, a brakeline diameter is way smaller, works great
If you would just watch the Cars and Cameras build, it would answer alot of your questions and help you solve some of your problems. You might as well throw those carbs in the trash.
Hey, pro tip if you take the cable it should be a steel cable and just weld it to the pedal and clutch for a test run that what i did on my shifter cart and then I made a solid steel line that pulled the clutch afterward
You will need to move the fuel cell and put the pump level or below the fuel tank. It’s extremely hard for a pump that small to pull up and then push the fuel into the carb.
Buy a aluminum tank mount it above the motor behind. You're head you don't want your coils arking out on the motor my friend did a cart like that but with a racing cart frame also used the clutch Handel idea to works great
Needs a nice fuel pump. Then it needs to run to a y fitting. Run one of the ends of the y fitting to the carbs. And the other one needs to run back to the tank so they won’t build up at idle and stuff
What events do you plan on going to with this hack job lol. I like the channel. But if I were you, I definitely couldn’t settle and leave that jackshaft how it is
And the clutch mounting should just run under along the driver side to the steering and and the. You could put harnesses in it but you could go to harbor freight and get an air filter and paddle shifters are on go power sports
Ha n still far from done,but still wants to cheap out on parts,obviously can't see that trying multiple quick fix or alternative ideas can add up n cost as much if not more
You should convert the clutch to the hydraulic i know they sell the slave cylinder on amazon for like 20 bucks and that should help out alot with the clutch
Hey to let you know that you should put a regulator of some sort or shut off for your fuel pump because it will force fuel into the balls causing them to overflow I’m not sure in video if why it wasn’t
Mount the tank higher than the carbs and you shouldn’t have a problem, was that a hole on the #2 carb cap, if so you have to plug it as the slides require vacuum to operate, coils have to be mounted to the frame via other ground wire or directly mounted to the frame, get rid of the fuel pump
migs the gas tank you got is really bad. i have one on my bike and it dents really easily, the gas cap leaks because it doesnt have a seal, and the studs on the bottom will either strip, break, or both if your not careful.
This is a “I told you so” bait build. I’m not goin to do this to you but I’m really glad you are starting to understand metallurgy and the importance of using nuts n bolts for stress areas of your build. Your not totally using them because you are quick to use welding as a worthy and sensible way to connect your pieces. I hope your finding out welding isn’t Always your answer. Your jackshaft still worries me because it’s a welding job. Good luck with that. Maybe I was a little bit harsh but I’m only concerned about the safety of what your doing and not doing everything so cheaply. Going fast won’t last. Going slow is the way to go. Personally I think your frame is not strong enough for that motor. I think that thing will be hard to handle above 35mph. I’m hoping the frame doesn’t collapse. Good luck. Your exhaust system needs to be tight and be routed out the side. My suggestion is connect all four exhaust pipes to one exhaust pipe a quadruple connection to one pipe , the four pipes from the exhaust ports should be short but long enough to clear the cooling fins,then take a long single pipe and weld the 4 short pipes from the exhaust ports and route it to the whatever side you choose or do this as a dual way to do it and have two exhaust pipes coming from the engine. Very old school on motors back in the day. It’s crude but it’ll work. Then build heat shielding to go over the pipes or wrap it with muffler wrap. It’s your best option in that tight area. Be safe
If carbs still act up do it like cars and cameras. they used diffrent carbs and made something themselves. they used the same engine I'm pretty sure so their solution might work for you to.
You will never get this engine to run right with a fuel pump. The carbs need to be gravity fed from above like they originally were on the bike. To test if your clutch is frozen put the engine in gear and start it on jack stands. Just use pliers or something to push on the clutch lever and see if the wheels stop turning. But chances are it needs to be taken apart and cleaned. It shouldn’t be that hard to move
On the topic of a regulator I think you should just test it without and if it works don't use one, if it doesn't use one. OR if you just want to be safe get a regulator.
the fuel pump has to be no more then 2psi, if it is it will blow past the needle and flood, how much it pumps does not matter as much as what pressure it pumps at.
I think its running too lean because of the exhaust system with almost no restricion and no air filter or air box, i wouldnt bother with the air fuel mixture until he has it drivable and stoppable and when the exhaust and airbox/filter is how he wants it
You should make an air box like cars and cameras are using on the cross kart.
I keep saying the same thing
Just put air filter on! Thats fine!
Regards
Roadracing driver!
Me two damn there shit is mean as hell and using only two carbs he keeps saying carbs are expensive well create that’s the point behind doing things like this
heya Migs , Now this is 100% better , a more slower pace and more thought going into what you are doing ,
Stock airbox can be used for a time being thing , gotta remember you running it without an airbox the engine gets a lot more air but still has the stock jets so its going to be out, spluttery , high idle etc etc. i would say throw the stock box on for now atleast you will know everything works well that way. ( dual carb mod uses 2x mikuni VM34 carbs but they will need to be re-jetted ).
Please Please please look into using the original brake caliper , i want you to be 100% safe buddy and that one you have fitted is just NOT fit for the purpose intended. you now have a 100 weight motor sitting in that frame and when your doing upwards 70mph thats a lot of forward momentum that small brake caliper has to deal with, its going to overheat seize up and brake fade on you leaving you with no stopping power what so ever.
same thing I thought. thats a pocket bike brake. no match at all for this beast of a kart.
Just throw these carbs in the trash put a 2 mikuni carbs on it change sparkplugs like cars and cameras did you will be flying !!!!
I was just about to comment this lol
Definitely if these carbs don’t work out on my final attempt to use them, I will do that dual carb set up👍🏻
I would imagine they are easier to sync and tune because there are two not four carbs to sync
i cant believe ive been watching your channel for a little over 2 years
Just living and learning here . I like your attitude
Im excited like its my nascar build homie keep up do good work 🔥🤙🏽
And this channel is worth a lot more than 86 k subs
I really love motomigs ...I do ..but I wish grindhardplumbing had this chassis and motor ...jus sayin
Same
They would put a snow mobile engine in it
Hell yeah or probably about 20 other channels on youtube ,would most likely be done in 10 vids
@@dwaynecallow8152 yo he dose not even look like he's 20 yet he just cant spend all his time on this just be happy he's documenting
@@cameronjarina4596 right lol
bad spot for the tank the exhaust is going to make it hot and pressurize it move it please before it becomes a fire ball
kelvin Kight I think it’s only temporary. I hope 😂
kelvin Kight yes
It’ll be temporary for the time being, I was thinking that as I was putting it on, I definitely do not want it to become a fire ball 😂
It's a gravity feed fuel system and any fuel pressure over 1 psi will disrupt the kneedle an seats then leak fuel constantly out the overflow. Either a bypass regulator or a return line back to the tank will work with that fuel pump.
That jack shaft makes me cringe
Your name makes me cringe "bro".
You need to learn something about metals before you start welding random stuff together, you can't weld brass and steel together, steel to steel, aluminum to aluminum, and brass is either braized or soldered. Watch some welding videos on here, they help put a lot with techniques and how to get the right settings for your welder.
I think you miss worded this a bit. You most definately can weld steel to steel and aluminum to aluminum (with a tig welder or special wire feed)
I ment to say that you can weld steel and steel, aluminum and aluminum, etc. together. Sorry for the misunderstanding
Hey look at cars and cameras 750 cross cart build...they made an air box using pvc piping. Came out great
Awesome Video Brotha Keep em coming!!!
Thanks! I will!!
you need to fill that hole on top of that carb they sell hydrolic clutch kits on ebay that will replace the cable
Ok I’ll fill in that carburetor hole and then look into the hydraulic clutch kit, thanks man!
@@motomigsofficial no prob that hole could also solve some of the running problems
Also if you extend the rails engine is on to the rear would be a good spot for the battery to stay and keep the cranking leads short for best results
Put a tee in the line to carbs so excess pressure can go back to tank.otherwise it will over pressure the needle valves and flood carb unless it's under about 3 psi.
I really enjoy watching you work through your build. A lot of learning experiences for you. The one thing I would recommend is not promising a test drive in every video or making an assumption on when you will. Take your time buddy build that thing right and work steady. It's coming along nicely and please make sure you have excellent working brakes before the first drive. I've seen way to many accidents in home builds...
Thanks for the support, and I definitely will, safety first! 💪🏻
I like to see this with a yz80 motor,it be fast as hell,and a lot easier to build,but good build hang in there,be safe man
I've learned that on karts it's better to use pattle shifters it's just like liking brakes just get the mount for the steering wheel and and hook it to a ball cable and you should be good if not you could use bicycle levers and cables that could work too but it's ur project take as much time as need man 💯🙏
A fuel pressure regulator would help deliver the right amount of fuel. Great job on your project looks like fun
Keep up the good work and content. And waving a hand from the jet City.
Thanks man! 👋🏻👍🏻
Have you considered mounting your clutch on your shift lever. You might even be able to use the handle bars from the motorcycle for your shifter lever and then put the original clutch lever back on.
And reuse the MC clutch cable. Win- Win here! As well as sharpening up your welding knowledge, get a bolt strength chart and learn to use it; the junk box bolts you used on the sprocket repair are several different grades and may well fail again- what you need are bolts that have a high shear strength and I don't see that in your present assembly. Read up, be safe and know that all those pesky math classes and geometry will now give you tools to figure out your "car" problems!
Good Care, Good Luck, and May the Force be with You!
You are very smart buddy! Great content as always!
@@markcollins5026 We are not talking about you now.
U should ride with a youtuber love the vids man keep it up hpoefull u hit 1mill
Love the new music. You should definitely keep it
Gettin there fella nice n steady
Keep it up 👍🏻
From notts modified car channel
Thanks!
Ok I’m confused here, why is he running a fuel pump when he could mount the gas tank above the carbs and have it gravity fed. What am I Not understanding here?
There is a body that goes over the entire cart. He is trying to fit everything under it.
Ismaak5 I know that but it’s easier to have it gravity fed, or he can mount it above the carbs and also under the body, “keep it simple stupid”
@@budgetbuildz4191 I don't think there is enough room above the engine for anything. Literally the top bar is where the roof of the body bolts to.
Mark Collins exactly he should make a custom tank and bolt it on his helmet
Love the vids
Thanks!
Looking good!!
about the fuel pump, i tried that one with a 450cc Yamaha engine, did put a little too much pressure for those carbs, simple test, just let it run, if the carbs overflow, you need a regulator, if not, its fine, i made a bypass from the pressure line, with a brakeline, back to the tank, so that the puel pump can circulate, a brakeline diameter is way smaller, works great
If you would just watch the Cars and Cameras build, it would answer alot of your questions and help you solve some of your problems. You might as well throw those carbs in the trash.
While the engine is out. You should give it a fresh paint job 😊
Hey Moto migs I have watched so long I love you vids fallow you dreams
Thanks for sticking around homie, and you are right, always follow your dreams! 🙌🏻
Thanks for reply
Hey, pro tip if you take the cable it should be a steel cable and just weld it to the pedal and clutch for a test run that what i did on my shifter cart and then I made a solid steel line that pulled the clutch afterward
That’s a good idea, if I can’t get it to work with something else I’m going to try with it, I’ll definitely try out your idea, thanks!!
Love you bro would love you to see you do a video ok a ‘motorized bike kit’ would be sick 🇦🇺
Amazing videos
Again no test run. Bummer...
You will need to move the fuel cell and put the pump level or below the fuel tank. It’s extremely hard for a pump that small to pull up and then push the fuel into the carb.
And don't listen to these dudes saying replace carbs and spark plugs that's what makes the project so special
If he wants to get it running right the smart thing to do is get all new carbs
Do you have any basic understanding of how a gasoline engine works? Can't even tell if this is a troll that's how stupid this comment is.
Nice
Buy a aluminum tank mount it above the motor behind. You're head you don't want your coils arking out on the motor my friend did a cart like that but with a racing cart frame also used the clutch Handel idea to works great
Needs a nice fuel pump. Then it needs to run to a y fitting. Run one of the ends of the y fitting to the carbs. And the other one needs to run back to the tank so they won’t build up at idle and stuff
No no and no everything just no. Save time and do it the right way. Buy the the right parts.
I agree
@@rcracer55o what's up g
Also clean it later
Is that a hole in the top of the second carb top?i agree with moving the tank too its too close to the headers.
What events do you plan on going to with this hack job lol. I like the channel. But if I were you, I definitely couldn’t settle and leave that jackshaft how it is
And the clutch mounting should just run under along the driver side to the steering and and the. You could put harnesses in it but you could go to harbor freight and get an air filter and paddle shifters are on go power sports
Use a pressure regulator set at 2-3lbs and run a return line that way the needle and seat won't will not be over worked
Talk about milking a series 24 videos????
Ha n still far from done,but still wants to cheap out on parts,obviously can't see that trying multiple quick fix or alternative ideas can add up n cost as much if not more
You should convert the clutch to the hydraulic i know they sell the slave cylinder on amazon for like 20 bucks and that should help out alot with the clutch
Put a spring on the clutch to relieve some tension
Fuel regulator will be needed...gravity flow carbs,electric pump is gonna be a pressure load
Cool
Where the hell is the test drive !!!!!!!!!??!??!
If i had to make a suggestion for a clutch cable try a thick brake cable for the rear brake on a vip 50cc moped they are really strong cables
Bro make like a handle that u can shift with n put the clutch handle on that too. Watch go hard plumbing co videos
U need to throw those carbs in the trash and get mukuni carbs
Why not mushroom air filters?
Keep an eye on the gas tank the caps are notorious for leaking
Maybe u should get a bit of small fuel line and start it to see how much fuel and how fast it uses it
Hey to let you know that you should put a regulator of some sort or shut off for your fuel pump because it will force fuel into the balls causing them to overflow I’m not sure in video if why it wasn’t
You're exhaust needs to go under the motor in-between the axel and out to the end of the cart it will give you back pressure for the valves
When I had a Honda cm200, I was able to shift it into 1st without using the clutch, really bad for it but, hey it worked 😂
it was reving a little high, but only running on two cylinders
Mount the tank higher than the carbs and you shouldn’t have a problem, was that a hole on the #2 carb cap, if so you have to plug it as the slides require vacuum to operate, coils have to be mounted to the frame via other ground wire or directly mounted to the frame, get rid of the fuel pump
migs the gas tank you got is really bad. i have one on my bike and it dents really easily, the gas cap leaks because it doesnt have a seal, and the studs on the bottom will either strip, break, or both if your not careful.
Is the magna for sale!?
First
Hey Migs, Please plug that little hole on the top of that carb , you really dont want that open
The best
Put a fuel return line so the carbs Don't overflow
I was the 194th lone the videos
Love
This is a “I told you so” bait build. I’m not goin to do this to you but I’m really glad you are starting to understand metallurgy and the importance of using nuts n bolts for stress areas of your build. Your not totally using them because you are quick to use welding as a worthy and sensible way to connect your pieces. I hope your finding out welding isn’t Always your answer. Your jackshaft still worries me because it’s a welding job. Good luck with that. Maybe I was a little bit harsh but I’m only concerned about the safety of what your doing and not doing everything so cheaply. Going fast won’t last. Going slow is the way to go. Personally I think your frame is not strong enough for that motor. I think that thing will be hard to handle above 35mph. I’m hoping the frame doesn’t collapse. Good luck. Your exhaust system needs to be tight and be routed out the side. My suggestion is connect all four exhaust pipes to one exhaust pipe a quadruple connection to one pipe , the four pipes from the exhaust ports should be short but long enough to clear the cooling fins,then take a long single pipe and weld the 4 short pipes from the exhaust ports and route it to the whatever side you choose or do this as a dual way to do it and have two exhaust pipes coming from the engine. Very old school on motors back in the day. It’s crude but it’ll work. Then build heat shielding to go over the pipes or wrap it with muffler wrap. It’s your best option in that tight area. Be safe
Yeah man keep it and try it. Out make a new cable or a different kind
If carbs still act up do it like cars and cameras. they used diffrent carbs and made something themselves. they used the same engine I'm pretty sure so their solution might work for you to.
Where can I find a scale cart like this.
Great work but it’s so funny to I me that you are using your drill to take off bolts
Haha, it gets the job done!
it will be fine
You will never get this engine to run right with a fuel pump. The carbs need to be gravity fed from above like they originally were on the bike.
To test if your clutch is frozen put the engine in gear and start it on jack stands. Just use pliers or something to push on the clutch lever and see if the wheels stop turning. But chances are it needs to be taken apart and cleaned. It shouldn’t be that hard to move
On the topic of a regulator I think you should just test it without and if it works don't use one, if it doesn't use one. OR if you just want to be safe get a regulator.
That’s true I can give it a shot and see how it is with/without a regulator, thanks!
Where can I find a cart like this one
Cars and cameras used that gas tank and had to replace is cause it didn't give enough fuel and they have the same engine
Why couldn't u use the one sprocket of the motorcycle tire
Just throw air filters on carb
The next video has to be a real test drive.
Why not move the rear axle back a little bit an get rid of the jack shaft. It would help you a shit ton down the road.
New plugs new carbs and coils and you'll have a good engine
Go to cars and cameras youtube they built a cross cart and look at their carb set up it's really nice
Yyy do u get so manny dislikes l love ur vids
Because he takes to long making amateur mistakes..it could be done in a week...i wish someone else was doing this project
the fuel pump has to be no more then 2psi, if it is it will blow past the needle and flood, how much it pumps does not matter as much as what pressure it pumps at.
Literally every one told you that you can’t weld steal to aluminum😂
Use suspension for rear and front end
Run the fuel pump to a toggle switch
How did you come across this kart
I had found it for sale on Facebook marketplace and I knew I had to get it!
You got a hole on your carburetors on the top part
That engine is fouling ir running to rich bad air and fuel mixture
I think its running too lean because of the exhaust system with almost no restricion and no air filter or air box, i wouldnt bother with the air fuel mixture until he has it drivable and stoppable and when the exhaust and airbox/filter is how he wants it
New plugs or coils or carbs
Get a atc 250r
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You should use clutch cable from a car
Or reuse the one from the MC along with clutch lever and handlebar end!