When Bilbo dropped the ring they used magnets underneath the floor so that it didn't bounce around but instead slams to a complete stop. I think Peter said they wanted to emphasise how much of a burden and weight it was to someone who carried it.
There are many such details one lightly oversees. Like how the intro basically tells us that the 9 men fell to the dark. It is the only cut were the image slowly turns to black.
Sam: "Cast it into the fire, Frodo! Destroy it!" Frodo: "I... I don't have it! I thought I had it on a necklace around my neck." Bilbo: "Oh it's... still in my pocket..."
@@phelopatirabdel-malak554 Gandalf and Saruman are the same race as Sauron,which is called Maia, they're the equivalent of angels, so I guess he was abandoning his old man appearance in a moment of anger.
In Frodo's defense, he had to actually CARRY the damn thing around his neck the whole time. Bilbo presumably didn't have it on his person all the time.
I believe it has to do with the ring not knowing what the fuck to do tbh. It's just kinda in the Shire in standby mode, waiting for Sauron's dementors to come and get it. Everyone also seems to forget that Frodo EASILY just puts it down at the council in Rivendell, he jus' kinda drops it off without hesitating and actually feels relief. It's when he gets closer to Mordor the ring goes batshit crazy like "Nigga put me on. Do it. Do it you little shit"
In the books, its more like 20 years. Once Gandalf finds out about the ring and leaves the shire, he goes on a decades long quest to see if it truly is the One ring. Not just that, but also the closer one gets to Mordor, the stronger the Ring becomes.
@@Waltersop it is unclear if someone becomes immortal possessing the ring. All we know is that to a mortal it brought very long life (see Gollum)and delays aging.But even if it made you immortal, at that time nobody knew that anyway since nobody knew for sure it was the one ring including Bilbo. He just thought it was a random ring that seemed to have some magic powers.
Yeah, you see a similar thing when the ring’s finally destroyed. Frodo hasn’t been able to mentally picture the shire, because the ring is all he can think about. When it’s gone, he says “I can see the Shire!” To Sam, and that’s when we know the ring truly is gone. It’s like an addiction, it just takes everything you are.
3:09 In all of middle Earth, Bilbo was the only being to literally 'give up' a magic ring. He didn't give it to someone else to use (Cirdan to Gandalf) or pass it on as a heirloom (Thror to Thrain) He meant for Frodo to have it, yes, but the key point is he DROPPED it first. He didn't hand it over. He walked away from it. Bilbo left the Ring. I would say Bilbo was the strongest of all.
I think he dropped it because that was the only option. He couldn't have gone back to his mantlepiece and put it in the envelope, or waited to hand it to Frodo directly. It's grip on him was too strong. He had to choose between walking out of Bag End with it in his hand, or getting rid of it _right now_. He didn't even set it down on a table, that would have been too much effort. Simply turning his hand until the ring fell out was the most he could muster under the strain.
Sorry, but it was Sam Gamgee who, of all the people in Middle Earth, voluntarily gave up the Ring. Bilbo did, but only after Gandalf partially threatened him, and partially helped him. Sam gave it up willingly, when he could have kept it (Frodo was in no shape to take it from him).
@@brucecoulson3757 Circumstances aside, only Bilbo and Sam, when asked, relinquished the ring. I imagine its power to control makes it extremely difficult to relinquish without a friend to guide you. That's what Gollum lacked - a friend to steer him right.
Bilbo is easily the strongest character in terms of at least mind in this whole story. Men who only had the ring for a day couldn't give it up, they resorted to murder before losing it. Gollum became obsessed with the ring the day he got it, and over hundreds of years he was never able to give it up. Sauran couldn't give it up. Gandalf was so afraid of it's lure and powers he wouldn't even touch the ring, least he becomes like all the rest. Then Bilbo, who has had it for decades, just drops it on the floor and leaves.
Sauron was never under its power because it was a part of him. He wouldn't make something that has power over him as he desires control. However, he was dependent on it as it was important to his plans and its destruction would bring his end
The image of him wandering off into the night is magnificent. As a kid, the thought of going on an adventure into the unknown was truly charming. Thank you, sir Ian. Thank you.
the books are vastly superior to the movies in some ways--as good as the movies are. In both the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings, one could truly feel that all roads could lead home, but that the converse was also true: all roads could lead eventually to Mordor.
The ring is powerful enough to influence those just standing near it like Boromir. Bilbo having the mental/spiritual strength to give up the ring willingly is a testament to how strong he is.
@@kylegriffiths5990 bilbo is not strong gandalf scared the shit out of him made him give up the ring n even asked him to pull out his pocket tge strongest is sam he resisted the ring when he had it in his pocket even frodo was weaker then bilbo cause the sauron called out to frodo. Manipulated him to bring the ring that why he said he will take it cause sauron was calling him at the end. Frodo decided not to destroy it until gollum catch him bite his finger off n then frodo try fighting gollum for the ring n gollum slip off the ledge bring frodo down with him except frodo caught the ledge n gollum fell with the ring so if gollum didnt go there frodo wouldnt of not destroy it
He retains his sanity after so many years of keeping the ring and that's an accomplishment in its own right. Compare it to Smeagol who outright murder Deagol only after watching it for few minutes.
@@djayscruggs8786 I disagree. The circumstances are not comparable. Gandalf is a Maia. Bilbo is mortal. Sauron had not regained full power the majority of the time when Bilbo held the ring. Frodo is the one who had to deal with the mental, physical, and spiritual consequences while taking the ring to an evil land. The ring literally was able manipulate Frodo, because Sauron is also a Maia, and upon regaining his power, was much more powerful than Frodo. Samwise had no ulterior desire or motive, other than to help his boss/friend out. This too could have eventually been perverted, but Sam did not have possession for a long time. Moreover, he also had protection of Lady Galadriel with him.
I never realised it when I first watched it, but 3:09 is truly the mightiest battle of the entire trilogy. Bilbo could easily have given into the ring, slipped it on his finger and disappeared out of Gandalf's sight. But you can see on his face here his willpower literally overpowering that of the ring's (Sauron's). He may have been a tiny man, but there's no denying Bilbo Baggins was the mightiest person to ever walk Middle Earth. PS. it's ironic that Gandalf The Grey was the only person to actually witness the only person in history to give up the ring willingly, after holding onto it for so long. I think he really meant it when he said "And I'm sure you will, my dear friend."
As there were only three long time bearers other than Sauron I think that Faramir, Samwise, Galadriel, Bombadil, Aragorn and Gandulf deserve honourable mentions for resisting and allowing the ring go.
I like the way you put it, and you can also see that the ring is fighting to remain with bilbo almost glued to his hand. From the point of view of the ring, he is truly powerless after falls in the ground, he has no one to corrupt and control at that moment
2:03 The creaking sounds here are just brilliant. Gandalf's outburst is making the wooden structure of the hobbit hole bend and flex, almost to the point of breaking under the strain.
One of the reasons it's among my favorite LOTR scenes. I love how the area around him gets darker as if he's absorbing the ambient energy around him and growing more powerful in his anger. It's SO well done.
Its stunning seeing Ian Mckellen act so brutal and convincing after seeing how gentle and kind he is in real life. Such and amazing actor and human being 💗
That and the darkening of the ceiling really struck out to me too when i first watched this scene. Idk who's a Bleach fan here but that was some spiritual pressure right thur
This scene for me as well as gollums transformation both show just how evil the ring itself is. Even after the outburst and recovery, bilbo STILL tries to deceive gandalf and then smirks nastily when he gets caught out. And yet bilbo is so honest and innocent.
I always interpreted that moment as him unconsciously keeping it rather than trying deceive Gandalf, like the many moments where Frodo involuntarily tries putting on the Ring
@@ef2293 he looked sheepish when gandalf pointed it out tho, not surprised, so he was at least aware of what he had done even if it was a subconcious decision.
@@jolienvsndijk Yes, exactly - he looked sheepish. In the trajectory of his mind at that moment - in the wake of Gandalf's show of power - he thought somehow that he could still walk out with the ring. He saw how force and aggression were both impossible to accomplish his goal, and so he resorted to conniving stealth. Easily found out, of course, by the wizard. And then the way he brings the ring out and shows it to Gandalf "innocently"......it's a last attempt to downplay its power. But the way Gandalf is advancing slowly on him, unsmiling and deadly serious, brings him to his senses, and he starts to tilt his hand downward...
I've listened to BBC's LOTR my entire life. Grew up listening to Ian Holm voice Frodo Baggins. So grateful that some else knows this and acknowledges his other LOTR role.
@@lebatman790 Orson Bean: Played Bilbo, then Frodo. Ian Holm: Played Frodo, then Bilbo. And both of them passed away in the same year. Rest in peace, Bilbo/Frodo.
Not many people talk about the scene at 3:08 . The Lord of The Rings is so massive that it’s understandable, but that part has always been one of my favorite parts of the movie. The amount of effort you can see on Bilbo’s face just to turn his hand is incredible. I’ve struggled with a certain addiction before, so I can relate to that a lot.
@@damonedrington3453 Apparently they managed that by having a powerful magnet under the floor, that's why it "snaps" into place so hard. Similar with that extreme closeup of Boromir picking up the ring from the snow close to the camera, the ring in that shot is huge, like a foot across or similar. Some very clever ways to give the ring a sense of weight and importance. :)
Fritobandito858 In my opinion, which is not held by most. We see here how Bilbo conquered "in spite" of it's temptation. With Frodo however, he conquered "through" it. Gollum was the dualistic nature Frodo needed against the ring's oneness.
I CANNOT believe that line isn't in the book. It's one of my favorite lines ever. And I happen to agree with you guys. Bilbo was strong. The most important sign of it: he actually let it go... and *DIDN'T COME BACK FOR IT*. That area was his home for 111 years, I'm preeeeetty sure he knew how to head back and steal it from Frodo; killing his younger cousin if he had to. 0_o
+Misty Lou The way I see it I find that Bilbo did at the time have a stronger will than Frodo as Bilbo experienced more hardships through his years he had the ring, escaping Gollum to even watching one of his best friends die and going as far as keeping it for many many years after his adventure with Gandalf. Frodo was just an innocent lad who was given such an immense and dangerous responsibly of destroying the ring and ridding the world of the terrible evil. Bilbo just knew the ring as a ring that had powers which meant he didn't know the weight he was bearing while Frodo was told "You need to take this ring that can wipe out the race of man, dwarf and elves and destroy it. We'll come with you but it's up to you to do it." and that was always in the back of his mind. Granted at the beginning of the hobbit Bilbo was also just an innocent lad however he wasn't tasked to the "Save the world" job However you can argue that because Frodo knew what he was responsible for and how he used the ring more than Bilbo AND STILL remained uncorrupted for so long that he also has a very strong will.
When Bilbo gives out that little cry and runs up to Gandalf it tears at my heart. You can see and hear in that small moment where he snaps away from the rings lure back to the present and is terribly frightened of himself.
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It's accurate and I understand that nowadays it's a wearisome way of ending a story whereas the book was written long ago and influenced its over-usage now, I admit that I didn't consider it that when I wrote my comment.
That quote hits me deeply after reading and watching The Hobbit...Bilbo has lost his dear friends which have caused him grief, add to that the burden of bearing the One ring. Maybe he's just longing and wishing for that happy ending.
Isn't it beautiful that Bilbo can only come up with the ending: "and he lived happily ever after" after he lets the ring go. Such a wonderful, subtle way to show the huge weight that's been lifted from his mind.
I never noticed that! When I was younger I loved these films as an epic spectacle of magic and swords and battle (rightfully so). Now, in returning to them years later, I realize they're exemplars of an art, crafted with a passion shockingly un-warped by rapacious obsession with profit, destined for a place of honor in the history of film no less than its source holds in the annals of literature.
In the book he says it some time before putting the ring in the envelope. Gandalf never even tried to touch it once, for he had suspicions of the ring even then. But yes I agree.
Although it's not in the book I like the bit where Bilbo apologetically hugs Gandalf, and prehaps a hug out of fear for what the ring has been doing to him. Either way it makes their friendship much more prominent and Bilbo more innocent and caring.
I love that Gandalf has a very strong command of his emotions. In one second, Gandalf can be extremely intimidating and shows that he is not afraid to call out wrongdoing, but then can immediately be gentle and reaffirm his love and friendship once the issue has been resolved.
Except that in the books he doesn't seem to age at all between gaining the ring and parting with it. He was in his 50's during the Hobbit (about 30 or so in human years) and half a century later he's supposed to look mostly the same. Then when Frodo meets him again (~20 years after parting with the ring) Bilbo has aged rapidly. The movies are fantastic, but the timescale is very different and the life preserving power of the ring isn't as pronounced.
@@MrJethroha probably mainly a result of waiting so long between the movies. Frodo is also a lot younger in the movies and feels less like he's in his hobbit 50s :)
To Bilbo's credit it took him decades to become this corrupted. Gollum/Smeagel became corrupted almost instantly and killed his own cousin the moment he saw the ring.
Frodo never really did any wrong with the ring and understood what he needed to do from the start, at least he had the courage to do the harder task, bilbo just kept it from anyone else, i think the reason the ring had more of an effect on frodo was because he got closer and closer to the eye as the movies went on
***** Also Bilbo kept the ring on a shelf for the majority of the time he had it, lessening the effect it had on him. True, Frodo kept it in an envelope for most the twenty-some years he had it, but he also had to carry it on his neck for a couple years. Still, the ring did eventually corrupt Frodo, and Bilbo was one of the few people to willingly give up the ring, and the only one to give it up after having it for a number of years.
Jacob Manahan I could be wrong, I haven't read the books in a long time, but I thought Frodo tried to give the ring to Gandalf after Gandalf told him what it actually was and he refused to take it, saying something like "don't tempt me". And didn't Frodo also try to give it to the elf chick, Galadriel (or something like that) and she refused to take it? He tried to give it willingly, just no one would take it at the time.
What these films managed to capture so unbelievably well was the "innocence" of hobbits. They are grown "men", yes, but they still exhibit child-like behavior and mentality. It's reflected in Howard Shore's masterful soundtrack and also in scenes like this where Bilbo, after Gandalf "yells" at him, hobbles toward him with a whimper and hugs him like a child would after dad scolded him.
Pingas Pearce With a name like that you obviously know all about drugs. But I think the ring is like drugs. I'l give Gollum as an example. He loved and hated the ring he was driven crazy by at and it destroyed him as a person but he still was obsessed over it.
BennyNeb Gollumn was driven mad by the rings power. The ring entices men with dreams of supreme power and control. But can only answer to one master. To me, the ring appeals to everyones greed. Something I havent heard of a drug doing.
3:21 Brilliant directing. I love how that tiny ring has a resounding thud sound. Really makes you feel relief in the following shot when Bilbo walks out of his house as a free man.
@@AJ-bg6ko I thought that might be how they did it. It's an inspired touch, along with the 'resounding thud' mentioned above. The makers of these films were operating on a different level.
This use of Gandalfs magic is so well done, it's not an outward show of force or extravagance but it's still supremely intimidating the way the world darkens and groans. It's like the world is straining under the weight of his incredible power.
When beings as strong as Gandalf (and stronger) used their full power, a half of the continent was sunk and destroyed. (The War of Wrath in the First Age). Gandalf here is using just a bit of his full potential.
I’ll say here again what seems to have been said a million times- Bilbo was the true lord of the rings, as he was the only one capable of bearing it for so long in silence, yet still possessed the resilience and strength to let it go, and as it lay there teeming in power, was able to walk away and never look back. Brilliant:) RIP Ian Holm
@@user-kg3ug8xu1x He meant to go re-visit the places he saw when he was on his own adventure, but ends up only going to Rivendell and stay with the elves there. Eventually, when he was quite old, he went with Gandalf, Frodo, and Elrond to the undying lands across the seas.
I think Bilbo let go of the ring because he saw what the arkenstone did to Thorin and realised that the ring was having a similar effect on him, I think he learned from his old friends mistake
Hmmm, interesting point you make. Bilbo is the sort of person who, from reading the Hobbit, seems to be rather teachable and tries to make things work out. These traits also help him to be a good "author" for the Hobbit (according to the story).
Bilbo also was without the real passion of wanting things. Some people might call it greed. The rings most destructive aspect is insinuating greed in the hearts of those, who carry it.
He didn't do it alone, Gandalf stated that Bilbo required all of his help. But in the end, he let it go willingly & felt better at once. He still felt it was very useful, because he escaped unwelcome visitor's like the Sackville baggins.😂 But I don't think Bilbo ever thought of it as dangerous since he had it for so long. Hobbit's tend to be quite resistant to it's evil, so probably his heritage helped too.
That is also an interesting theory. I think it would go well with mine. Bilbo didnt like being Compared to gullum even if it wasnt mentioned by name. You could see it struck a nerve. And the finaly decision to turn his hand you could say he had That Going through his mind
3:20 Notice how the ring doesn't bounce or roll around when it hits the floor. It hits the floor and falls still like a heavy brick. Perfectly shows the weight of the burden that is to carry the ring.
I absolutely love the little cinematic and audio “trick” that Jackson and crew pulled when Bilbo finally lets the ring go and lets it fall. It does not *bounce* as a normal ring would. It THUMPS to the floorboards with a much heavier sound. Never in the books did Tolkien write that the ring had more actual mass or that it weighed more physically. He does speak of the weight and burden of carrying it. But that was always just a spiritual thing. And that’s how it’s treated in the movies too for the most part. But I love that here, just once, they give it a physical weight. Just to let the audience know that this ring is WRONG somehow without anyone yet actually saying it. Brilliant!
I dont know if you notice this, but theres a difference on bilbo face after he let go the ring.. he seem noticeably wrinkled than before he let go the ring.. its very subtle
I really like the way the burden and influence of the One Ring was portrayed. How Bilbo could swap from acting perfectly cheery and natural, and then snapping to defensive, hostile and possessive of the ring. The sheer willpower it took for Bilbo to drop the ring, and how Gandalf had to remind him to leave it and obscured it from view so Bilbo wouldn't go back for it. You really see the ring clinging to his skin as he turns his hand, like it's reluctant to let go of him. Clinging desperately to its bearer in the hope of being reunited with its true master. How it has to be turned to the side fully, before reluctantly slipping from Bilbo's hand. That slamming sound they give the ring and the way they make it go straight down and avoid bouncing is brilliant. Really highlighting how heavy a burden it is.
2:07 was among the greatest Gandalf scenes of the trilogy. The big ring tries to take control of little Bilbo. And still, he could let go of it. And he lived happily ever after to the end of his days.
G E T R E K T 905 Do you also enjoy kicking puppies? Let people enjoy whatever belief and expression of comfort they can give each other with those beliefs and stop shitting all over them just to prove you are “edgy”. Fine - you’ve made your point and you’ve made almost the exact same comment on every thread where people are just trying to express themselves poetically in Tolkien’s words at the passing of Mr. Holm. Here’s a newsflash. You were never edgy. You aren’t even a good troll. You are instead a tiresome bore not adding anything of worth or even of remembering.
I like to revisit this scene every once in awhile because of how much I can relate to Bilbo letting something precious and evil go. Him dropping the ring was me letting go of my addiction. 6 years later, I’m still on an adventure of uncharted territories just like Bilbo walking into the night.
I love how the ring drops with a thud, as though it's inflexible and extremely dense. Most rings and round objects would bounce a couple of times before coming to rest on the floor, but the One Ring doesn't. It's an eerie feeling, watching that. It really gives you a sense of how powerful and how much more than just an object it is. This was a great scene altogether.
Since the shot was a close up when the ring fell you can imagine that you're hearing the sound of the ring from an objective point of view as if you were as big as the ring and right next to it.
Trisket He gave it more willingly than Bilbo. He hesitated yes but he did give it willingly, he did not yell he did not become a rude prick when he was told to hand it over. So in my book he gave it willingly. He did not have to be scared out of his pants to give it up. The chance is Frodo never gave him a chance to really give it willingly, if he would have waited little longer Sam would have.
“It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.” Rest in peace Ian Holm
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3:09 man I love this little part of this scene... its actually such trivial, letting a little ring fall out of your hand, but with this heavy meaningfull music, the tense, the overlong laying ring on this hand, it even feels like the ring stick as longest possible to Bilbos hand and than fall and land with such a heaviness, like it would weight tons. So great!
Both of them are so incredible at emoting. I love the way McKellen’s face slowly turns from concern, to suspicion, then horror as he sees the desperate attachment Bilbo has to the ring
I love how Gandalf does what he has to to bring Bilbo back to his senses by scaring him, but immediately comforts him with a hug and reassuring words. They don’t have many scenes together, but you can easily feel the strength of their friendship.
Sadly, they didn't act much of the scene together as they needed smaller and taller actors to get the ratio right. And later on professional performers for the real longer embraces. I think they were edited out though.
"Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it. " "White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise. " Farewell dear Bilbo
@G E T R E K T 905 It doesn't mean it is a lie. He is describing how Tolkien viewed death. The elves sailed over the sea, and that, for him, is a beautiful experience. He explains over and over how Middle-Earth becomes more shadowy and the light of the Eldar becomes fainter. Dying as a mortal to Tolkien, as a Catholic war veteran must be something that became beautiful in a sense, inevitable, and something that he worked with over and over in the myths he worked with in OE, ON, OW.
Bilbo let it go after 60 years of having it with him. Like a guy having to quit smoking after doing it for so long. Must’ve been hell for him just letting it drop from his hand.
Well, it actually represents addiction perfectly, but the main thing the Ring represents is power. Everyone is lured by it, and once they have it, they can't let it go. It can get them or buy them anything they want.
@@madgang201The problem with this theory is that its said in the book that hobbits were somehow not as susceptible to the rings powers as humans were. The reason gollum still had a sliver of humanity left in him was because he was river folk which are closely related to hobitses.
The moment when he drops the ring is brilliant. It sticks ever slightly too well to his hand and drops like it's much heavier than it should be. Great, simple filmmaking.
NightBot Ban yes. The music , the pratical effects apply to make some strange impressions about the ring and the camera shots. All in this scene is pure brilliance
I enjoy watching these Bilbo/Gandalf scenes in LotR more after watching the Hobbit trilogy. Martin Freeman really brought the character to life and Ian Holm is a believable older version of the hobbit.
Javier Lopez they sailed to Valinor together man the first hobbits to set foot in the undying lands only one man landed on the shores of valinor & left with his life Earendil ( the father of elrond half elven) the others who sailed there had númenor swallowed by the sea (all by Saurons/at the time "the great chained wonders" "council" which got his body destroyed ) but he also got "the golden king" killed in the process
A perfect foreshadowing of Gandalf's actual power he later displayed when fighting Balrog. Gandalf really is a major force in the middle earth, even before he got the White Wizard buff.
Good rearrangement of that line. It was just an early thrown suggested ending, a random talking point before the Ring drama started, but here it really signifies Bilbo celebrating his liberty and embracing his mortality finally.
The pride on Gandalf's face after he sees that, despite the ring's corruption, his dear friend still has the honesty and goodness in his heart to be able to drop the ring, even if it took a lot of encouraging, is so heartwarming.
Obscure Entertainment Lol! That'd be funny! I bet in the lava pit the ring was like: " Awwwww. Come on! I didn't even do anything and you burn me alive?! If I had a hand to give myself to I'd make them give you the finger "
JRR Tolkien was really ahead of his time. I'm from Ohio where the heroin epidemic is at it's worst. And I've had old friends here behave as hostile as Bilbo does in this scene when I've asked them if they're sober and what are they hiding?And the corruption of the Ring is so strikingly similar to the heroin addiction that destroyed my hometown. Even the lands becoming foul and covered in darkness by the corruption of Sauron mirrors the heroin epidemic in Ohio and spreading across all the midwest. It's kind of sad really.
2:01 was how my friends would see me acting like an obnoxios idiot but in the end they all did it out of love and growth for me. Seeing this scene now shows that the true friends see the ugly out of you and do their best to get the ugly roots out of you.
3:15 I wonder if at that moment, Bilbo thought of Thorin and his sick greed over the Arkenstone and whether he’d end up like how Thorin was becoming if he kept the Ring.
Say what you will of the Hobbit trilogy (I personally thought they were very enjoyable and a fine addition to Jackson's Middle-Earth films, despite their flaws) but Bilbo's character in The Lord of the Rings has definitely benefited from them. Before I think the audience (at least, non book readers) did indeed view Bilbo as 'mad old Bilbo', as many hobbits do. The Hobbit trilogy makes you care more for him and makes you feel truly sorry that such a decent person has suffered the Ring's corruption.
True that, Going full-on CGI may have not been the best idea for the prequels. Jackson probably should have sticked with using practical effects as much as possible and only use CGI when necessary.
Unless, of course, you read the book. But Martin Freeman was an excellent choice to play Bilbo; he really fed a lot into the character. I just can't stand Desolation or BotFA for more reasons than the CGI overkill.
@thomas, you know what just crossed my mind when I saw this clip? When Bilbo says 'my precious' Gandalf says: it's been called that before, but not by you.' This is very strange after seeing all the hobbit movies, how does he know?
I read the hobbit before I ever even touched Lord of the Rings and I have to admit as much as I love all the characters no one touched my heart as much as Bilbo and absolutely this scene every time makes me cry because in my heart Bilbo will always be one of the best hobbits that ever lived.
3:23 this is one of my favourite moments of the subtle signs of the rings supernatural nature. The way it just hits the ground rather than bounce the way an actual ring would if you dropped it.
Even in the simple thing as showing Bilbo gives up the Ring, his reluctance and the almost thunder-like sound when it hits the floor...show just how immensely addictive its power is. 3:29 - Bilbo's sigh of both pain and relief as the Ring's grasp on him loosened, that little touch of detail made this scene.
I’ve seen this movie countless time and for 17 years I never noticed how warm and heartfelt it is that even though bilbo has the EVIL one ring. The whole reason he wanted to leave the shire is to go on one last big adventure to visit the dwarves of the lonely mountain and Elrond of Rivendell because he misses them
Super sad that he never got to see balin and others again. Im sure he was heartbroke after he heard that balin died later in moria not so far away of his home...
-...and he lived happily ever after till the end of his days. -And I’m sure you will, my dear friend. And so he did. Rest In Peace, Ian Holm. I do hope, that he finds another adventure in Grey Heavens indeed.
2:19 Ah I miss bilbo will respect gandalf most legendary thanks my memories and childhood we got LOTR series 3 Disc DVD movie collection thank you so much world everyone LOTR forever fans thank you and rest in peace.
Came to pay my respects to the actor who played Bilbo here. "Sir Ian Holm". Thank you for your skills and may your next journey be full of adventure. My condolences to his family.
I always got bugged by that. Elves are beautiful and wise, dwarves are wealthy and master artisans, hobbits are domestic and welcoming...yet humanity has only one trait. Corruptable. Thanks, Tolk. Way to shaft your own race. Unless...he -wasn't- human.....
When Bilbo dropped the ring they used magnets underneath the floor so that it didn't bounce around but instead slams to a complete stop. I think Peter said they wanted to emphasise how much of a burden and weight it was to someone who carried it.
Ourumov1 Cool. I like how much detail they put into those films.
Ourumov1 So it wasnt a sound effect they added to that! Such amazing detail!!
There are many such details one lightly oversees. Like how the intro basically tells us that the 9 men fell to the dark. It is the only cut were the image slowly turns to black.
it was not a regular size ring in that shot but a big ring
A gold plated lead ring wouldn't bounce much .
Sam: "Cast it into the fire, Frodo! Destroy it!"
Frodo: "I... I don't have it! I thought I had it on a necklace around my neck."
Bilbo: "Oh it's... still in my pocket..."
Nater K oof
What does its have in its pocketses?
What has it got in it’s nasty little pocketess?!
What is he, Macho man randy savage?
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Gandalf raising his voice for the first time, the whole room darkening and the house cracking is one of my favorite scenes
It was the perfect amount of energy to get his point across without scaring him too bad.
What is Gandalf doing exactly in that scene? What magic is that?
@@phelopatirabdel-malak554 Gandalf and Saruman are the same race as Sauron,which is called Maia, they're the equivalent of angels, so I guess he was abandoning his old man appearance in a moment of anger.
@@phelopatirabdel-malak554^that is the perfect explanation to what happened. He dropped part of the costume for a second
@@sebastianmunozochoa1485 I see. Just like he did I the Hobbit.
Carried the One Ring for decades and manged to leave it behind willingly.
***** But Bilbo especially. Even Frodo couldn't give up the ring and he carried it for less than a year and he knew the importance of destroying it.
In Frodo's defense, he had to actually CARRY the damn thing around his neck the whole time. Bilbo presumably didn't have it on his person all the time.
I believe it has to do with the ring not knowing what the fuck to do tbh. It's just kinda in the Shire in standby mode, waiting for Sauron's dementors to come and get it.
Everyone also seems to forget that Frodo EASILY just puts it down at the council in Rivendell, he jus' kinda drops it off without hesitating and actually feels relief.
It's when he gets closer to Mordor the ring goes batshit crazy like "Nigga put me on. Do it. Do it you little shit"
In the books, its more like 20 years. Once Gandalf finds out about the ring and leaves the shire, he goes on a decades long quest to see if it truly is the One ring. Not just that, but also the closer one gets to Mordor, the stronger the Ring becomes.
Because Tolkien knew man at his core was corrupt and highly aroused by evil... So that's why the hobbits exist in LotR
"And he lived happily ever after, to the end of his days" really takes on a different tone now. Farewell Sir Ian Holm, you will be missed.
And I am certain that he did. Rest easy, Ian!
Missed, but never forgotten
RIP Lmao :')
I will miss Ian so much I love his performance as Bilbo.
More great heroes should get to say this instead of getting unceremoniously bumped off.
I love that he thinks of the ending for his book as soon as he drops the ring. Unloading that burden gave him an immediate sense of clarity.
What was happening when Gandalf was angry after bilbo accused him?
@@traveller4life123 gandalf showed his magic power to make bilbo understand
It’s also important to think that it might be because Bilbo knows he’s no longer immortal and that the end is coming
@@Waltersop it is unclear if someone becomes immortal possessing the ring. All we know is that to a mortal it brought very long life (see Gollum)and delays aging.But even if it made you immortal, at that time nobody knew that anyway since nobody knew for sure it was the one ring including Bilbo. He just thought it was a random ring that seemed to have some magic powers.
Yeah, you see a similar thing when the ring’s finally destroyed. Frodo hasn’t been able to mentally picture the shire, because the ring is all he can think about. When it’s gone, he says “I can see the Shire!” To Sam, and that’s when we know the ring truly is gone. It’s like an addiction, it just takes everything you are.
“Goodbye, dear Bilbo”
Hits a little different now, doesn’t it?
RIP Ian Holm
Until our next meeting.
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Just came back after the news :/
We lost one of the greats 😢
3:09 In all of middle Earth, Bilbo was the only being to literally 'give up' a magic ring. He didn't give it to someone else to use (Cirdan to Gandalf) or pass it on as a heirloom (Thror to Thrain) He meant for Frodo to have it, yes, but the key point is he DROPPED it first. He didn't hand it over. He walked away from it. Bilbo left the Ring. I would say Bilbo was the strongest of all.
I think he dropped it because that was the only option.
He couldn't have gone back to his mantlepiece and put it in the envelope, or waited to hand it to Frodo directly. It's grip on him was too strong.
He had to choose between walking out of Bag End with it in his hand, or getting rid of it _right now_.
He didn't even set it down on a table, that would have been too much effort. Simply turning his hand until the ring fell out was the most he could muster under the strain.
only after gandalf scared him shitless
@@greenleafe1238 One would argue that Bilbo could've gotten defensive and threw hands with Big G, but he didn't, he gave up the ring.
Sorry, but it was Sam Gamgee who, of all the people in Middle Earth, voluntarily gave up the Ring. Bilbo did, but only after Gandalf partially threatened him, and partially helped him. Sam gave it up willingly, when he could have kept it (Frodo was in no shape to take it from him).
@@brucecoulson3757 Circumstances aside, only Bilbo and Sam, when asked, relinquished the ring.
I imagine its power to control makes it extremely difficult to relinquish without a friend to guide you. That's what Gollum lacked - a friend to steer him right.
Bilbo is easily the strongest character in terms of at least mind in this whole story. Men who only had the ring for a day couldn't give it up, they resorted to murder before losing it. Gollum became obsessed with the ring the day he got it, and over hundreds of years he was never able to give it up. Sauran couldn't give it up. Gandalf was so afraid of it's lure and powers he wouldn't even touch the ring, least he becomes like all the rest. Then Bilbo, who has had it for decades, just drops it on the floor and leaves.
I'd say sauron couldn't let anyone else have it, because then he'd have a rival to his power.
Why would Sauron give it up? The ring was loyal to him. Giving it up would be dumb
Sauron was literally the Ring lol why would you gave yourself up?
Because Sauron was true master of the ring.
Sauron was never under its power because it was a part of him. He wouldn't make something that has power over him as he desires control. However, he was dependent on it as it was important to his plans and its destruction would bring his end
"And he lived happily ever after, to the end of his days"
RIP Ian Holm 1931-2020
And I’m sure he did.
“I think I’m quite ready for another adventure”
I want to use Ian Holm's ring for about 60 years. He's so golden and stupidh0t here it's crazy.
O7
"Until our next meeting, in The Heavens"
bilbo is the single most powerful person in middle earth, simply for being able to let go of the ring.
'till he nearly relapses when he meets Frodo again.
Shanethefilmmaker but even then... he could contain himself in the end.
Tom Bombadil...
what about sam?? he took the ring and he gave it back to Frodo in the orc tower =)
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Hell he didn't even get tempted by it. He just treated it like some trinket he needed to borrow for a while.
"BILBOOO BAGGINS!!!!" Gandalf said calmly.
Lol
i see what you did there
Hahahahaha
Man, this is such a good joke I'm at a loss for words.
DILDO SAGGINS!!!
The image of him wandering off into the night is magnificent. As a kid, the thought of going on an adventure into the unknown was truly charming. Thank you, sir Ian. Thank you.
Beautiful when you think they're both Sir Ian
Until you hear the high pitch buzzing
Wonderfull....truly wonderfull
the books are vastly superior to the movies in some ways--as good as the movies are. In both the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings, one could truly feel that all roads could lead home, but that the converse was also true: all roads could lead eventually to Mordor.
@@stevedavis8329 I think Fellowship of the Ring is the only movie as good as books
Bilbo Baggins is the best ever.. hes so kind, innocent, yet so strong.
The ring is powerful enough to influence those just standing near it like Boromir. Bilbo having the mental/spiritual strength to give up the ring willingly is a testament to how strong he is.
@@kylegriffiths5990 bilbo is not strong gandalf scared the shit out of him made him give up the ring n even asked him to pull out his pocket tge strongest is sam he resisted the ring when he had it in his pocket even frodo was weaker then bilbo cause the sauron called out to frodo. Manipulated him to bring the ring that why he said he will take it cause sauron was calling him at the end. Frodo decided not to destroy it until gollum catch him bite his finger off n then frodo try fighting gollum for the ring n gollum slip off the ledge bring frodo down with him except frodo caught the ledge n gollum fell with the ring so if gollum didnt go there frodo wouldnt of not destroy it
@@djayscruggs8786 Its true, Samwise was the true hero.
He retains his sanity after so many years of keeping the ring and that's an accomplishment in its own right. Compare it to Smeagol who outright murder Deagol only after watching it for few minutes.
@@djayscruggs8786 I disagree. The circumstances are not comparable. Gandalf is a Maia. Bilbo is mortal. Sauron had not regained full power the majority of the time when Bilbo held the ring. Frodo is the one who had to deal with the mental, physical, and spiritual consequences while taking the ring to an evil land. The ring literally was able manipulate Frodo, because Sauron is also a Maia, and upon regaining his power, was much more powerful than Frodo. Samwise had no ulterior desire or motive, other than to help his boss/friend out. This too could have eventually been perverted, but Sam did not have possession for a long time. Moreover, he also had protection of Lady Galadriel with him.
I never realised it when I first watched it, but 3:09 is truly the mightiest battle of the entire trilogy. Bilbo could easily have given into the ring, slipped it on his finger and disappeared out of Gandalf's sight.
But you can see on his face here his willpower literally overpowering that of the ring's (Sauron's).
He may have been a tiny man, but there's no denying Bilbo Baggins was the mightiest person to ever walk Middle Earth.
PS. it's ironic that Gandalf The Grey was the only person to actually witness the only person in history to give up the ring willingly, after holding onto it for so long. I think he really meant it when he said "And I'm sure you will, my dear friend."
well put it makes this scene even stronger when we know he goes to the undying lands
As there were only three long time bearers other than Sauron I think that Faramir, Samwise, Galadriel, Bombadil, Aragorn and Gandulf deserve honourable mentions for resisting and allowing the ring go.
Didn't Sam give it up willingly as well?
Turns out a hobbit is the only being which can contend with the will of Sauron
I like the way you put it, and you can also see that the ring is fighting to remain with bilbo almost glued to his hand.
From the point of view of the ring, he is truly powerless after falls in the ground, he has no one to corrupt and control at that moment
It was so cute when Bilbo ran over to hug Gandalf
@BlueTeamPlayer yeah me too after he screams at me first
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He was so scared of what that ring had done to him.
2:03 The creaking sounds here are just brilliant. Gandalf's outburst is making the wooden structure of the hobbit hole bend and flex, almost to the point of breaking under the strain.
Great comment!
One of the reasons it's among my favorite LOTR scenes. I love how the area around him gets darker as if he's absorbing the ambient energy around him and growing more powerful in his anger. It's SO well done.
Well it actually makes a lot of sense because in the book it describes him straightening out to his full height in this scene
Its stunning seeing Ian Mckellen act so brutal and convincing after seeing how gentle and kind he is in real life. Such and amazing actor and human being 💗
That and the darkening of the ceiling really struck out to me too when i first watched this scene. Idk who's a Bleach fan here but that was some spiritual pressure right thur
This scene for me as well as gollums transformation both show just how evil the ring itself is. Even after the outburst and recovery, bilbo STILL tries to deceive gandalf and then smirks nastily when he gets caught out. And yet bilbo is so honest and innocent.
Just like the drug cocaine.
I always interpreted that moment as him unconsciously keeping it rather than trying deceive Gandalf, like the many moments where Frodo involuntarily tries putting on the Ring
@@ef2293 he looked sheepish when gandalf pointed it out tho, not surprised, so he was at least aware of what he had done even if it was a subconcious decision.
@@jolienvsndijk Yes, exactly - he looked sheepish. In the trajectory of his mind at that moment - in the wake of Gandalf's show of power - he thought somehow that he could still walk out with the ring. He saw how force and aggression were both impossible to accomplish his goal, and so he resorted to conniving stealth. Easily found out, of course, by the wizard. And then the way he brings the ring out and shows it to Gandalf "innocently"......it's a last attempt to downplay its power. But the way Gandalf is advancing slowly on him, unsmiling and deadly serious, brings him to his senses, and he starts to tilt his hand downward...
The Ring is evil, as Gandalf emphasized.
Tolkien cleverly shows it's the evil in men and hobbits who desire it.
Who's here after the terrible news?
He really did live happily ever after, until the end of his days.
Merciless Freak That was the first part I thought of...
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Did you saw the full movie
Not just him but Orson Bean as well. 2020 was not good for Bilbo
He's not gone. He's just on another adventure!
RIP Ian Holm.
Fun fact: Bilbo was not his only LoTR role. Ian Holm also provided the voice for Frodo in a 1980s radio play by the BBC.
I've listened to BBC's LOTR my entire life. Grew up listening to Ian Holm voice Frodo Baggins. So grateful that some else knows this and acknowledges his other LOTR role.
Thé newphew becomes the uncle and thé uncle becomes the newphew
Almost like he was destined to be a Baggins....
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Orson Bean: Played Bilbo, then Frodo.
Ian Holm: Played Frodo, then Bilbo.
And both of them passed away in the same year. Rest in peace, Bilbo/Frodo.
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Not many people talk about the scene at 3:08 . The Lord of The Rings is so massive that it’s understandable, but that part has always been one of my favorite parts of the movie. The amount of effort you can see on Bilbo’s face just to turn his hand is incredible. I’ve struggled with a certain addiction before, so I can relate to that a lot.
Me too. When you have an addiction watching Lord of the Rings hits differently.
Cum addiction
I also love the way the ring despite weighing probably a couple dozen grams slams into the ground with a thud like it’s a chunk of iron
@@damonedrington3453 it's like a subtle metaphor showing it's power and how it weighs down on the bearer's ability to part with it.
@@damonedrington3453 Apparently they managed that by having a powerful magnet under the floor, that's why it "snaps" into place so hard. Similar with that extreme closeup of Boromir picking up the ring from the snow close to the camera, the ring in that shot is huge, like a foot across or similar. Some very clever ways to give the ring a sense of weight and importance. :)
"Bilbo Baggins! Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks, I'm not trying to rob you. I'm trying to help you."
Look what the ring did to Frodo. He nearly lost a friend and had his own finger bit off. I find it disturbing after all that, Frodo still wanted it.
Chris Epperson we see how strong Bilbo is
Fritobandito858 In my opinion, which is not held by most. We see here how Bilbo conquered "in spite" of it's temptation. With Frodo however, he conquered "through" it. Gollum was the dualistic nature Frodo needed against the ring's oneness.
I CANNOT believe that line isn't in the book. It's one of my favorite lines ever.
And I happen to agree with you guys.
Bilbo was strong. The most important sign of it: he actually let it go... and *DIDN'T COME BACK FOR IT*.
That area was his home for 111 years, I'm preeeeetty sure he knew how to head back and steal it from Frodo; killing his younger cousin if he had to. 0_o
+Misty Lou The way I see it I find that Bilbo did at the time have a stronger will than Frodo as Bilbo experienced more hardships through his years he had the ring, escaping Gollum to even watching one of his best friends die and going as far as keeping it for many many years after his adventure with Gandalf. Frodo was just an innocent lad who was given such an immense and dangerous responsibly of destroying the ring and ridding the world of the terrible evil. Bilbo just knew the ring as a ring that had powers which meant he didn't know the weight he was bearing while Frodo was told "You need to take this ring that can wipe out the race of man, dwarf and elves and destroy it. We'll come with you but it's up to you to do it." and that was always in the back of his mind. Granted at the beginning of the hobbit Bilbo was also just an innocent lad however he wasn't tasked to the "Save the world" job However you can argue that because Frodo knew what he was responsible for and how he used the ring more than Bilbo AND STILL remained uncorrupted for so long that he also has a very strong will.
When Bilbo gives out that little cry and runs up to Gandalf it tears at my heart. You can see and hear in that small moment where he snaps away from the rings lure back to the present and is terribly frightened of himself.
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@Matteo-wv1ti you said Bilbo so I said that
"I'm not trying to rob you! I'm trying to help you"
Best line in the movie for me
Looks like something you can say to a drug addict, when taking from them all the drug
And that line broke Bilbo's obsession with the Ring and made him feel horrible for yelling harshly at Gandalf hence why he hugged him.
That part brings me to tears
"And he lived happily ever after... To the end of his days."
Great quote.
yeah very touching
It's accurate and I understand that nowadays it's a wearisome way of ending a story whereas the book was written long ago and influenced its over-usage now, I admit that I didn't consider it that when I wrote my comment.
Perhaps it could also correlate to someone with addiction.
@@dlucey123 You obviously don't know much about hobbits, then xD
That quote hits me deeply after reading and watching The Hobbit...Bilbo has lost his dear friends which have caused him grief, add to that the burden of bearing the One ring.
Maybe he's just longing and wishing for that happy ending.
Isn't it beautiful that Bilbo can only come up with the ending: "and he lived happily ever after" after he lets the ring go. Such a wonderful, subtle way to show the huge weight that's been lifted from his mind.
I never noticed that!
When I was younger I loved these films as an epic spectacle of magic and swords and battle (rightfully so). Now, in returning to them years later, I realize they're exemplars of an art, crafted with a passion shockingly un-warped by rapacious obsession with profit, destined for a place of honor in the history of film no less than its source holds in the annals of literature.
@@Zlarel u say what..let me eat my cereal
In the book he says it some time before putting the ring in the envelope. Gandalf never even tried to touch it once, for he had suspicions of the ring even then. But yes I agree.
@@cleanserofnoobs4162 He actually does hold it once: Right before he throws it in the fire to reveal the Black Speech. That's the only time, though.
Yet later in the film, we see the ring still has a hold on him
Although it's not in the book I like the bit where Bilbo apologetically hugs Gandalf, and prehaps a hug out of fear for what the ring has been doing to him. Either way it makes their friendship much more prominent and Bilbo more innocent and caring.
Same, it was a nice detail
I love that Gandalf has a very strong command of his emotions. In one second, Gandalf can be extremely intimidating and shows that he is not afraid to call out wrongdoing, but then can immediately be gentle and reaffirm his love and friendship once the issue has been resolved.
It's actually really easy to see Bilbo here as an older Martin Freeman
Ian Holm and Martin freeman
Agreed: it's the dialogue, to a large degree, that helps.
Noah i know right? Martin conveys a younger Bilbo so perfect.
Except that in the books he doesn't seem to age at all between gaining the ring and parting with it. He was in his 50's during the Hobbit (about 30 or so in human years) and half a century later he's supposed to look mostly the same. Then when Frodo meets him again (~20 years after parting with the ring) Bilbo has aged rapidly. The movies are fantastic, but the timescale is very different and the life preserving power of the ring isn't as pronounced.
@@MrJethroha probably mainly a result of waiting so long between the movies. Frodo is also a lot younger in the movies and feels less like he's in his hobbit 50s :)
To Bilbo's credit it took him decades to become this corrupted. Gollum/Smeagel became corrupted almost instantly and killed his own cousin the moment he saw the ring.
That's why I like Bilbo better than Frodo
Frodo never really did any wrong with the ring and understood what he needed to do from the start, at least he had the courage to do the harder task, bilbo just kept it from anyone else, i think the reason the ring had more of an effect on frodo was because he got closer and closer to the eye as the movies went on
***** Also Bilbo kept the ring on a shelf for the majority of the time he had it, lessening the effect it had on him. True, Frodo kept it in an envelope for most the twenty-some years he had it, but he also had to carry it on his neck for a couple years. Still, the ring did eventually corrupt Frodo, and Bilbo was one of the few people to willingly give up the ring, and the only one to give it up after having it for a number of years.
Jacob Manahan yeah could not of said any better myself
Jacob Manahan I could be wrong, I haven't read the books in a long time, but I thought Frodo tried to give the ring to Gandalf after Gandalf told him what it actually was and he refused to take it, saying something like "don't tempt me". And didn't Frodo also try to give it to the elf chick, Galadriel (or something like that) and she refused to take it? He tried to give it willingly, just no one would take it at the time.
1:59 I will forever love the fact that Bilbo was going to square up to Gandalf
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What these films managed to capture so unbelievably well was the "innocence" of hobbits. They are grown "men", yes, but they still exhibit child-like behavior and mentality. It's reflected in Howard Shore's masterful soundtrack and also in scenes like this where Bilbo, after Gandalf "yells" at him, hobbles toward him with a whimper and hugs him like a child would after dad scolded him.
I don't think he whimpers because of Gandalf's magic.
He whimpers because he's an addict. That ring is basically like heroin.
Manic Tiger The ring is nothing like heroin Bilbo is simply driven mad with greed and power.
Manic Tiger plus the ring has intent. Something no drug can have.
Pingas Pearce With a name like that you obviously know all about drugs. But I think the ring is like drugs. I'l give Gollum as an example. He loved and hated the ring he was driven crazy by at and it destroyed him as a person but he still was obsessed over it.
BennyNeb Gollumn was driven mad by the rings power. The ring entices men with dreams of supreme power and control. But can only answer to one master.
To me, the ring appeals to everyones greed. Something I havent heard of a drug doing.
3:21 Brilliant directing. I love how that tiny ring has a resounding thud sound.
Really makes you feel relief in the following shot when Bilbo walks out of his house as a free man.
And it doesn't bounce! Really conveys the idea that it's not just some innocent trinket
@@Procrasti... they had to put magnets under the floor
@@AJ-bg6ko I thought that might be how they did it. It's an inspired touch, along with the 'resounding thud' mentioned above. The makers of these films were operating on a different level.
@@Procrasti... Well said; my thoughts exactly!
This use of Gandalfs magic is so well done, it's not an outward show of force or extravagance but it's still supremely intimidating the way the world darkens and groans. It's like the world is straining under the weight of his incredible power.
When beings as strong as Gandalf (and stronger) used their full power, a half of the continent was sunk and destroyed. (The War of Wrath in the First Age).
Gandalf here is using just a bit of his full potential.
@@professorx3060 "THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM"
@@professorx3060 half continent? Gandalf helped to build the UNIVERSE (EÄ)
What is Gandalf doing exactly in that scene? What magic is that? He did that in the Hobbit movie.
@@phelopatirabdel-malak554 He's letting his true form creep out, just a small bit.
I’ll say here again what seems to have been said a million times- Bilbo was the true lord of the rings, as he was the only one capable of bearing it for so long in silence, yet still possessed the resilience and strength to let it go, and as it lay there teeming in power, was able to walk away and never look back. Brilliant:) RIP Ian Holm
Not only that,he use the ring to help his friends in the hobbit
@@regayudafitra6236 hey can you tell me where was he head to or what happened to bilbo after this? Or is this the final scene of bilbo?
@@user-kg3ug8xu1x bilbo leave the middle earth and searching for his happily ever after life,sounds good
@@user-kg3ug8xu1x He meant to go re-visit the places he saw when he was on his own adventure, but ends up only going to Rivendell and stay with the elves there. Eventually, when he was quite old, he went with Gandalf, Frodo, and Elrond to the undying lands across the seas.
@@user-kg3ug8xu1x He finally took the boat to cross the sea and lived with the elves until he died. Gandalf and Galadriel and Elrond sailed with him.
I think Bilbo let go of the ring because he saw what the arkenstone did to Thorin and realised that the ring was having a similar effect on him, I think he learned from his old friends mistake
Hmmm, interesting point you make. Bilbo is the sort of person who, from reading the Hobbit, seems to be rather teachable and tries to make things work out. These traits also help him to be a good "author" for the Hobbit (according to the story).
Bilbo also was without the real passion of wanting things. Some people might call it greed. The rings most destructive aspect is insinuating greed in the hearts of those, who carry it.
He didn't do it alone, Gandalf stated that Bilbo required all of his help.
But in the end, he let it go willingly & felt better at once.
He still felt it was very useful, because he escaped unwelcome visitor's like the Sackville baggins.😂
But I don't think Bilbo ever thought of it as dangerous since he had it for so long.
Hobbit's tend to be quite resistant to it's evil, so probably his heritage helped too.
That is also an interesting theory. I think it would go well with mine. Bilbo didnt like being Compared to gullum even if it wasnt mentioned by name. You could see it struck a nerve. And the finaly decision to turn his hand you could say he had That Going through his mind
3:20 Notice how the ring doesn't bounce or roll around when it hits the floor. It hits the floor and falls still like a heavy brick.
Perfectly shows the weight of the burden that is to carry the ring.
If you are interested in knowing how they did that they placed a magnet under the floor tile so it wouldn’t bounce or roll when it dropped.
@@shanestevens5352 I was convinced it was just a very large ring that they made specifically for this shot.
They did have a giant ring prop but it wasn't used for this scene.
Well said. I like that.
@@shanestevens5352 u read that one comment on here
I absolutely love the little cinematic and audio “trick” that Jackson and crew pulled when Bilbo finally lets the ring go and lets it fall. It does not *bounce* as a normal ring would. It THUMPS to the floorboards with a much heavier sound. Never in the books did Tolkien write that the ring had more actual mass or that it weighed more physically. He does speak of the weight and burden of carrying it. But that was always just a spiritual thing. And that’s how it’s treated in the movies too for the most part. But I love that here, just once, they give it a physical weight. Just to let the audience know that this ring is WRONG somehow without anyone yet actually saying it. Brilliant!
In return of the king you see the scares on Frodo from the chain because of the rings weight
I dont know if you notice this, but theres a difference on bilbo face after he let go the ring.. he seem noticeably wrinkled than before he let go the ring.. its very subtle
Not only that but the ring clinging to the hand, almost as if it wants to not be let go.
Yeah, I heard in one of the Making Of segments that they put a magnet in the floor to ensure it wouldn't bounce. Amazing filmmaking.
well heck, that's one great detail i was to ignorant to notice
I really like the way the burden and influence of the One Ring was portrayed. How Bilbo could swap from acting perfectly cheery and natural, and then snapping to defensive, hostile and possessive of the ring. The sheer willpower it took for Bilbo to drop the ring, and how Gandalf had to remind him to leave it and obscured it from view so Bilbo wouldn't go back for it. You really see the ring clinging to his skin as he turns his hand, like it's reluctant to let go of him. Clinging desperately to its bearer in the hope of being reunited with its true master. How it has to be turned to the side fully, before reluctantly slipping from Bilbo's hand. That slamming sound they give the ring and the way they make it go straight down and avoid bouncing is brilliant. Really highlighting how heavy a burden it is.
2:07 was among the greatest Gandalf scenes of the trilogy. The big ring tries to take control of little Bilbo. And still, he could let go of it. And he lived happily ever after to the end of his days.
Rest in peace Ian. Death is just another path. One that we all must take.
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@@mouktaralbert7062 Could also be Tolkien recalling his return to England after WWI, referencing the White Cliffs of Dover.
G E T R E K T 905 Do you also enjoy kicking puppies?
Let people enjoy whatever belief and expression of comfort they can give each other with those beliefs and stop shitting all over them just to prove you are “edgy”. Fine - you’ve made your point and you’ve made almost the exact same comment on every thread where people are just trying to express themselves poetically in Tolkien’s words at the passing of Mr. Holm.
Here’s a newsflash.
You were never edgy. You aren’t even a good troll. You are instead a tiresome bore not adding anything of worth or even of remembering.
Uhh Ian mckellan is very much alive
It’s not about the path you, but rather the destination where you end up
“I regret to announce - this is The End. I am going now. I bid you all a very fond farewell.
Goodbye.”
Things when taken in different context can change the entire meaning of the sentence.
RIP Ian Holm
In loving memory of Ian Holm
- After citing a dozen of awesome Hobbits families twice if not more :V.
I like to revisit this scene every once in awhile because of how much I can relate to Bilbo letting something precious and evil go. Him dropping the ring was me letting go of my addiction. 6 years later, I’m still on an adventure of uncharted territories just like Bilbo walking into the night.
Congratulations! Wishing you strength and happiness in the days ahead.
IF it's not too much to ask, which type? I'm dealing with something specific right now so it's just curiosity
Congratulations!!
I love how the ring drops with a thud, as though it's inflexible and extremely dense. Most rings and round objects would bounce a couple of times before coming to rest on the floor, but the One Ring doesn't. It's an eerie feeling, watching that. It really gives you a sense of how powerful and how much more than just an object it is. This was a great scene altogether.
Also, the way it seems to cling to his hand both refusing to let go and demanding that it be kept. A character unto itself.
Pineappletaco almost everything in Middle Earth is a character the way J.R.R Tolkien wrote it. Even Middle Earth it's self is a character.
it's symbolic since it's bilbo literally and figuratively letting go of a great weight…a great burden...
Since the shot was a close up when the ring fell you can imagine that you're hearing the sound of the ring from an objective point of view as if you were as big as the ring and right next to it.
The floor in this scene was magnetized, to show the weight of the Ring. That's why it didn't bounce.
So Bilbo is the only character who gave up the ring willingly.
+Trisket No actually. Sam was also carrying the ring for awhile and he gave it back to Frodo willingly.
King Wacky Frodo had to rip the ring out of his hands.
Trisket
He gave it more willingly than Bilbo. He hesitated yes but he did give it willingly, he did not yell he did not become a rude prick when he was told to hand it over. So in my book he gave it willingly. He did not have to be scared out of his pants to give it up. The chance is Frodo never gave him a chance to really give it willingly, if he would have waited little longer Sam would have.
Nah don't forget about Sauron. He gave it up pretty willingly after Isildur cut off his finger XD
+Trisket Boromir gave the ring back to Frodo willingly, too.
*Bilbo had the Ring for decades. It corrupts anyone with time. The act of letting go shows a great amount of character. He had a wonderful heart.*
Note to self: Never piss off Ian McKellen.
i thought that was donald sutherland
don’t take him for some conjurer of cheap tricks fam
Supposedly the lights weren't going to dim. Mckellen is just that powerful.
Brendan Fligger LoL that’s a good one
oh that dude will make you pay... i love how the room gets dark whenever he gets that angry
2:08 “I’m not trying to rob you, I’m trying to help you”
I felt that
“It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.”
Rest in peace Ian Holm
"Trust me, as you once did." - Most powerful words ever :).
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3:09 man I love this little part of this scene... its actually such trivial, letting a little ring fall out of your hand, but with this heavy meaningfull music, the tense, the overlong laying ring on this hand, it even feels like the ring stick as longest possible to Bilbos hand and than fall and land with such a heaviness, like it would weight tons. So great!
Both of them are so incredible at emoting. I love the way McKellen’s face slowly turns from concern, to suspicion, then horror as he sees the desperate attachment Bilbo has to the ring
Yes, it's utterly brilliant.
I love how Gandalf does what he has to to bring Bilbo back to his senses by scaring him, but immediately comforts him with a hug and reassuring words. They don’t have many scenes together, but you can easily feel the strength of their friendship.
Sadly, they didn't act much of the scene together as they needed smaller and taller actors to get the ratio right. And later on professional performers for the real longer embraces. I think they were edited out though.
Gandalf: “I got your back bro for life, but don’t you ever raise your fists at me again.”
So cute when Gandalf smiles and Bilbo goes in for a hug 🤗
3:08 Howard Shore is one of the few musicians that could somehow make dropping a ring the most stressful and epic thing in the world.
Please please do you know the name of the soundtrack? I can find it and im searching for it quite a time now
@@moritztabor1678 it might be Farewell Dear Bilbo.. I'll have a look
@@TheRuddster95 I have found it. It is called "keep it secret, keep it safe". Thanks for your effort, friend
Yes dropping a ring piece is truly an epic occasion to witness. Bilbo really was Lord of the ring piece.
This is the music I think of when a character is fighting some sort of inner struggle or demon.
"Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it. "
"White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise. "
Farewell dear Bilbo
@G E T R E K T 905 It doesn't mean it is a lie. He is describing how Tolkien viewed death. The elves sailed over the sea, and that, for him, is a beautiful experience. He explains over and over how Middle-Earth becomes more shadowy and the light of the Eldar becomes fainter. Dying as a mortal to Tolkien, as a Catholic war veteran must be something that became beautiful in a sense, inevitable, and something that he worked with over and over in the myths he worked with in OE, ON, OW.
"Well... that isn't so bad."
Every life comes with a death sentence but until then whos in charge.....me!
@@MrImastinker No, no it isn't.
That Ring has to represent Addiction. Showing that those who choose willingly to let go of it are some of the strongest of people
Bilbo let it go after 60 years of having it with him. Like a guy having to quit smoking after doing it for so long. Must’ve been hell for him just letting it drop from his hand.
It represented greed for power and money in Tolkien’s head. But you can perfectly relate with the addiction, it works too.
That ring is meth
Well, it actually represents addiction perfectly, but the main thing the Ring represents is power. Everyone is lured by it, and once they have it, they can't let it go. It can get them or buy them anything they want.
@@madgang201The problem with this theory is that its said in the book that hobbits were somehow not as susceptible to the rings powers as humans were. The reason gollum still had a sliver of humanity left in him was because he was river folk which are closely related to hobitses.
The moment when he drops the ring is brilliant. It sticks ever slightly too well to his hand and drops like it's much heavier than it should be.
Great, simple filmmaking.
NightBot Ban yes. The music , the pratical effects apply to make some strange impressions about the ring and the camera shots. All in this scene is pure brilliance
Rest in peace to our bilbo, have a safe journey to the undying lands.
i think im ready for another adventure! :D
that hug he gives gandalf hits harder after rewatching the Hobbit and what they went through together
I enjoy watching these Bilbo/Gandalf scenes in LotR more after watching the Hobbit trilogy. Martin Freeman really brought the character to life and Ian Holm is a believable older version of the hobbit.
watching these old lotr videos from a different perspective now that i've also seen the hobbit trilogy.
***** and look really really close
Yes but is kinda of sad the way they ended up because of the ring after all they went trough
Javier Lopez they sailed to Valinor together man the first hobbits to set foot in the undying lands
only one man landed on the shores of valinor & left with his life Earendil ( the father of elrond half elven) the others who sailed there had númenor swallowed by the sea
(all by Saurons/at the time "the great chained wonders" "council" which got his body destroyed ) but he also got "the golden king" killed in the process
That outburst was absolutely terrifying
Demitrium when gandalf gives a mere glimpse of his true power
Gandalfs full power on middle earth is not truly his full power!
I Think You Mean't Funny!😂
Demitrium your mom was absolutely terrifying
A perfect foreshadowing of Gandalf's actual power he later displayed when fighting Balrog. Gandalf really is a major force in the middle earth, even before he got the White Wizard buff.
2:19 That scared, sad little whimper Bilbo makes when he hugs Gandalf... I wanted to give him a big hug, too. Ian Holm nailed the role so perfectly.
And he lived happily ever after, until the end of his days
And I'm sure you will my dear friend..
Goodbye Gandalf.
@@rufousthefox9766 "good bye,
*Grabs your hand*
My dear Bilbo."
Good rearrangement of that line. It was just an early thrown suggested ending, a random talking point before the Ring drama started, but here it really signifies Bilbo celebrating his liberty and embracing his mortality finally.
This comment aged well
"All your long years, we've been friends. Trust me as you once did... Let it go."
Bilboooo, the ring is still in your pocket.
The pride on Gandalf's face after he sees that, despite the ring's corruption, his dear friend still has the honesty and goodness in his heart to be able to drop the ring, even if it took a lot of encouraging, is so heartwarming.
The Ring: I'll miss you... Your house is so much nicer than the Dark Tower...
Lol true
or the firey forge of Modor!
Probably why it never left Bilbo by choice.
I wish someone would add subtitles to the movie so we know what the ring is thinking.
"Hey Bilbo, you dropped me. Wait, come back! the floor is cold!"
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Lol! That'd be funny! I bet in the lava pit the ring was like: " Awwwww. Come on! I didn't even do anything and you burn me alive?! If I had a hand to give myself to I'd make them give you the finger "
JRR Tolkien was really ahead of his time. I'm from Ohio where the heroin epidemic is at it's worst. And I've had old friends here behave as hostile as Bilbo does in this scene when I've asked them if they're sober and what are they hiding?And the corruption of the Ring is so strikingly similar to the heroin addiction that destroyed my hometown. Even the lands becoming foul and covered in darkness by the corruption of Sauron mirrors the heroin epidemic in Ohio and spreading across all the midwest. It's kind of sad really.
Very well said
I'm from Ohio too
Mtz Master You on my level about this then too?
+downtoearth x I mean sure why not?
+downtoearth x what part of Ohio are you from
2:01 was how my friends would see me acting like an obnoxios idiot but in the end they all did it out of love and growth for me.
Seeing this scene now shows that the true friends see the ugly out of you and do their best to get the ugly roots out of you.
2:07 - Me at work when customers think I, a lowly cashier, am trying to cheat them out of their savings by enforcing company policy
love that reference!
He's finally gone off for a holiday, a very long holiday, and I fear he won't be coming back. R.I.P. Bilbo Baggins (Ian Holm)
G E T R E K T 905 like butter scraped over too
much bread.
G E T R E K T 905 two eyes 👀, as often as I can spare them.
G E T R E K T 905 yes, yes it’s in an envelope over there on the mantle piece
G E T R E K T 905 I think you should leave the ring behind. Is that so hard?
G E T R E K T 905 there’s no need to get angry?..
3:15 I wonder if at that moment, Bilbo thought of Thorin and his sick greed over the Arkenstone and whether he’d end up like how Thorin was becoming if he kept the Ring.
19/06/2020
Today is a very bad day...
Goodbye, dear Bilbo.
Goodbye, dear Ian.
And thank you. For everything..
Say what you will of the Hobbit trilogy (I personally thought they were very enjoyable and a fine addition to Jackson's Middle-Earth films, despite their flaws) but Bilbo's character in The Lord of the Rings has definitely benefited from them. Before I think the audience (at least, non book readers) did indeed view Bilbo as 'mad old Bilbo', as many hobbits do. The Hobbit trilogy makes you care more for him and makes you feel truly sorry that such a decent person has suffered the Ring's corruption.
yup absolutely, after watching the hobbit films and coming back i actually got alittle emotional watching bilbo become corrupted by the ring
True that, Going full-on CGI may have not been the best idea for the prequels. Jackson probably should have sticked with using practical effects as much as possible and only use CGI when necessary.
Unless, of course, you read the book. But Martin Freeman was an excellent choice to play Bilbo; he really fed a lot into the character. I just can't stand Desolation or BotFA for more reasons than the CGI overkill.
@thomas, you know what just crossed my mind when I saw this clip? When Bilbo says 'my precious' Gandalf says: it's been called that before, but not by you.' This is very strange after seeing all the hobbit movies, how does he know?
I read the hobbit before I ever even touched Lord of the Rings and I have to admit as much as I love all the characters no one touched my heart as much as Bilbo and absolutely this scene every time makes me cry because in my heart Bilbo will always be one of the best hobbits that ever lived.
3:23 this is one of my favourite moments of the subtle signs of the rings supernatural nature. The way it just hits the ground rather than bounce the way an actual ring would if you dropped it.
it's like it weighs a few kilograms or something. i think it looks like that to make it feel like a literal weight just fell off bilbo's shoulders.
"Precious? It's been called that before, but not by you." Hmm, lets see...Gollum, Smaug...
Isildur also said it was precious to him
When did Smaug called it precious?
Lord Robert Smaug never said that in the book... it was added js
Even in the simple thing as showing Bilbo gives up the Ring, his reluctance and the almost thunder-like sound when it hits the floor...show just how immensely addictive its power is. 3:29 - Bilbo's sigh of both pain and relief as the Ring's grasp on him loosened, that little touch of detail made this scene.
The hug Bilbo gives Gandalf in apology always makes my eyes water
_"And he lived happily ever after, to the end of his days."_
Like letting go of all the cigarettes, porn, alcohol at the same time.
Green-island96
Never smoked nor drank in my life (other than on a few occasion.) but quitting porn one strikes to close to home for me.
Let’s see... that’s one hippy and one porn hub premium member.....
hell I’m meeting all kinds of people here, let’s keep this comment section going😂
It's tough to let go of a bad habit but you cant just quit habits, you replace them. Hopefully into a good habit😁
Averon God of fire
I don’t use pornhub; I try to stick to google images; the porn industry is ran by “””👃””” and it’s evil and abhorrent.
I strive to be as wise as you
Walking away from that ring would be like walking away from an addiction of decades! Only a hobbit could do that.
The fact that Frodo almost gave in makes it even more tragic. :(
@@madgang201 and shows just how strong Bilbo's willpower is. Even when he was tempted to take it from Frodo again, he was able to come to his senses.
I’ve seen this movie countless time and for 17 years I never noticed how warm and heartfelt it is that even though bilbo has the EVIL one ring. The whole reason he wanted to leave the shire is to go on one last big adventure to visit the dwarves of the lonely mountain and Elrond of Rivendell because he misses them
Super sad that he never got to see balin and others again.
Im sure he was heartbroke after he heard that balin died later in moria not so far away of his home...
Rip.
Bilbo - one of most powerful characters in history of movies and books.
Why is this film soooooooooooo much better than Rings of Power? Because of scences like this. Not always action but heartwarming and relatable.
Farewell Bilbo Baggins, to your new adventure towards white shores and beyond. RIP Ian Holm.
-...and he lived happily ever after till the end of his days.
-And I’m sure you will, my dear friend.
And so he did. Rest In Peace, Ian Holm. I do hope, that he finds another adventure in Grey Heavens indeed.
When Bilbo hugs Gandalf I lose it everytime it's just so god damn wholesome he just wants to help his friend
RIP Sir Ian Holm. 6-19-2020. I'm really sad now seeing this. "To white shores and beyond"
Lies a far green country.
RIP Ian Holm. Part of the greatest trilogy ever made.
2:19 Ah I miss bilbo will respect gandalf most legendary thanks my memories and childhood we got LOTR series 3 Disc DVD movie collection thank you so much world everyone LOTR forever fans thank you and rest in peace.
"And he lived happily ever after, to the end of his days"
Rest in peace Ian holm ;(
Ian Holm did something really special with this role.
I like the thing the actor does with his mouth at 3:28. Really shows how reluctant/disappointed he was at giving it away.
RIP IAN. This scene hits differently today...
"And he lived happily ever after... To the end of his days." Hope you did, hope you did indeed.
R.I.P sir Ian Holm 1931-2020
2:01 my Grandfather hardly ever raised his voice especially at the grandkids so when he did it really felt like we were bilbo in this scene.
And he lived happily ever after to the end of his days
RIP Ian Holm
Bilbo was very far from Mordor, Frodo was constantly getting closer and closer and was dealing with a lot of evil on his way to Mount Doom.
Came to pay my respects to the actor who played Bilbo here. "Sir Ian Holm". Thank you for your skills and may your next journey be full of adventure. My condolences to his family.
I love how the ring can be a metaphor for addiction.
And how a good friend can help you get rid of your addiction.
you said it my friend
Bilbo..the only person on Middle-Earth to actually let go of the One Ring.
Sam returns it to Frodo after he had been bitten by the spider
PrimeAliProductions he never possessed it long enough for credit
PrimeAliProductions Sam only had it for around a few minutes, and hasn't been corrupted by its influence.
Boromir had it too and gave it back to Frodo, and he's a man, "who are so easily corrupted"
I always got bugged by that. Elves are beautiful and wise, dwarves are wealthy and master artisans, hobbits are domestic and welcoming...yet humanity has only one trait.
Corruptable.
Thanks, Tolk. Way to shaft your own race.
Unless...he -wasn't- human.....
"Guess I quite ready for another adventure,"
You will be missed Ian.