In the book Bilbo won on a lucky accident. With the time riddle, Gollum was about to call himself the winner, and Bilbo, wanting more time to think, simply burst out "time" in a panic, to which Gollum got angry at him saying the correct answer, and Bilbo just went along with it
I like how they changed that in the film but it's still Gollum's fault for trying to eat Bilbo. In the book it's made clear that it was Gollum's pressure what made Bilbo say simply "time" and here it is him saying "time's up".
@@h20deliriousvr19 Gollum freaking out like that is almost similar to a schizophrenic child i remember working with years ago, his babysitter used to let him watch alot of horror movies, and therefore he grew a fascination for werewolves, so much so that it influenced his behavior in a negative way, whenever he got pissed off or someone got him mad he would suddenly start spurting out "He's a werewolf! He's a werewolf!" This meant in his mind he was becoming a werewolf and was a precursor that he was about to go apeshit on someone. Suffice to say Gollum could very well classify as a schizophrenic patient in my eyes.
If and when you get a chance, he did an audiobook reading of the entire story. It's here on youtube. I thought it a gem when i found it and listened on a long road trip. He does an excellent job of reading as well as the well known voice of gollum and other characters in the story. It's free here on UA-cam
Matthew 11:15 KJV He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. Are you saved? Where will you go when you die? Heaven or hell? The Gospel, which means the Good News is the news that God Almighty, the Creator came in the flesh as Jesus Christ to take away the sin of the world. The one God is a trinity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son came and laid down his own life to save ours. His sacrifice on the cross paid the price for our redemption with his own blood. On the third day he rose from dead and offers the gift of salvation and forgiveness to those that repent and trust in him. Although God's creation was created perfect, having no death, sickness and disease, the creation became corrupted through Adam and Eve in them disobeying God. In this rebellion the creation became fallen through the curse of sin and mankind became separated from God. This world is fallen, but God offers reconciliation to him through his provision at the cross. Ultimately God will restore his creation to perfection when he returns but those that who reject his offer of redemption will remain condemned by their sins and go to hell. John 1:1,14 KJV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. [14] And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, 1 John 3:8 KJV He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Isaiah 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. John 1:10 KJV He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and THE WORLD KNEW HIM NOT.
0:16 I love how genuinely happy Smeagol looked when Bilbo said he wanted to play. He's been alone in the Misty Mountains for 500 years and finally a real person comes along who's actually being kind to him and wants to do some riddles. And yeah, he also wants to eat him, but at least it’s the closest thing he’s had to a friend since he found the Ring.
I recently started reading the Fellowship of the Ring and gandalf makes such a heartbreaking point about this moment. Since Smeagol was not much different from a hobbit once, those riddles connected him with a tradition and a culture that he knew. That this little part of him was still there, hiding from the ring. I just made myself so sad.
In the books that was literally a horror scene, it was terrifying. In the movie they made it a little more funny but kept the tension, which is very good to ease the situation and then make a boom when Gollum realises he's been stolen his Precious.
The 70's animated Bakshi version of this scene is more like that. There's no hint of the Smeagol childlike personality. Gollum is creepy as hell in that version.
Well interestingly enough originally it wasn’t, it was a sort of like the movie’s scene. It was actually a scene where bilbo beats Gollum at riddles and then Gollum gives him the ring as a reward, but then he wrote lord of the rings and re-wrote this scene entirely for the re-release that coincided the lord of the rings release so it would be more in line with those stories.
@@sethzwicker3631 Especially with the "green glowing eyes" and when he paddles on the lake, furious, his eyes fiery, fixated on Bilbo. I can't imagine being in Bilbo's shoes at that moment.
That's why I enjoy this scene too. They didn't try to complicate things, and didn't just skip to Bilbo getting ring and then getting out, because we know that happens. Instead they decided to make the scene entertaining with the riddles.
Fun fact: In Middle-Earth lore, some of the oldest and most popular riddles were made up by the elves, who actually put some magic into them which made you forget the answer after a while, so the riddle could be asked time and time again. It's no coincidence that the riddles in "the Hobbit" were universally poems, they're more akin to magic formulas than trick questions from a lore perspective.
I have a book of Mother Goose rhymes, and a bunch of them are riddles, but I would never have figured them out without the answers being printed right there. 😅
I love how Gollum symbolizes Smeagol's fears and anxiety, when Bilbo mentions that he indeed does want to play, Smeagol comes out and is very happy. But when Smeagol starts being thrown tricky questions, he fluctuates between the two characters.
All of Gollum's riddles stem from his isolation in the mountain and the ring's influence on his mind. The mountain is where he's been trapped by it, the wind is what he heard before he entered the mountain, and time is what has lost meaning to him, due to the ring extending his lifetime.
anyone else notice at 5:25 he throws the rock he was about to kill Bilbo with after being stumped by the question. Bilbo looks and laughs like "Yeah but you were about to kill me with that rock dickhead"
I also love how Gollum just curls up in a ball on the floor and petulantly whines like a child when he loses the game and realizes he won’t get to eat the hobbit for dinner. Yeah, he’s a villain, but he’s got some standards. LOL!
This is a bit unnecessary scene since Gollum was always gonna try to kill him and obviously Bilbo was never gonna let himself eaten just because he lost a bet. But building up tension nicely rather than having just another chasing scene.
yeah, it is one of the tricks the films use to make the character of Smeagol more appealing compared to Gollum. One of the other ones being the voice. Great catch!
It makes him look more innocent than Gollum; between the two, Gollum is more conniving, sly, and overall unpleasant. Narrowed eyes often give people that impression, especially if the narrowing is obviously intentional. ‘Innocent’ figures in media like television and cinema often have dilated pupils or eyes in general, to make them seem more adorable/relatable/pitiable. Sméagol is the more trusting of the two, with a better nature, and the dilation of his pupils underlines that. We feel sorry for Sméagol and his predicament, and we can feel that more clearly when contrasting him to Gollum.
@Johnt Schmichal I did not say that I believed Sméagol to be innocent. You’re only proving my point, as was the point of the character. Feeling bad for him was intended, and no matter the character trait, the intention was so, as produced by Tolkien’s hand and the film. The special effects of the film make him seem that way, to lure the viewer into a false sense of security, as Frodo was, in a way. The contrast is a distraction; the obvious ill-intent of Gollum is a diversion, so the two, with the same ultimate goals, may achieve them, most notably, acquiring the One Ring. Also, there is only evidence that Sméagol was corrupted by the Ring, as he did evil, as we saw, only after seeing it. I know not of solid proof to show that Sméagol was evil before encountering the One Ring.
@@allsmilesguy That's just gross disrespect to the movie's entire VFX Department, everyone else who contributed, and to the amount of hours they put into post production. 🤦♂️
@@andersonii4478 Yeah I get what the guy was trying to do but giving credit to Serkis alone, let's just say the sentence could've been better written.
I love this, the three of them in a game of deathly riddles; Gollum obviously the brain and cunning, while Smeagol is just having fun playing and waiting for his meal, while Bilbo fights for his life
I'm glad that despite its flaws, The Hobbit Trilogy got the two most important scenes in the book right: Riddles in the Dark and Conversations with Smaug. And this is one of the few reasons I don't hate and dismiss the Trilogy completely. It's scenes like these, and some other details that they did right, that makes it worth a watch for me.
@@sarov7658 similarly me as well I liked both because I watched them in order . I m now finding that people somehow hated this masterpiece Maybe because of nostalgia with lotr
I do think The Hobbit Trilogy isn't good, it's really only The Unexpected Journey. I think it should've been 1 movie, cut all filler, 3 hours and enough time in preproduction, it would've been an amazing film on par with the OT LOTR Trilogy. However, I really like The Unexpected Journey, it's not outstanding but damn, it's solid, The movie is underrated and deserves more love despite the outcome of the rest of the trilogy. Also the conversations with Smaug in The Desolation of Smaug movie are sick and The Barrel Scene is tight, I don't care what anybody says.
@@michaelluisalbaladejo6319 The artists deserve equal or maybe even more credit. Without them, this wouldn't have been possible in the first place. The level of co-ordination this requires is extremely hard.
I love how this perfectly balances golemes playful cute personality with his sadistic border line horrifying personality for example the line 'If bangingses looses we eats it whole.'
Martin Freeman is one of the best actors of this generation. He’s obviously done well for himself but I can’t help but still find him underrated. He’s got incredible talent.
1:00 Such masterful acting/animation. You can see that Gollum is considering jumping Bilbo now that he's put his sword away, but Smeagol wins the argument and he becomes cheerful again and starts the game. It's such a subtle change on his face but you can easily understand exactly what is going through his head.
0:43 - 1:00 I love Gollum's tone of explaining the obvious to Smeagol that they'd eat him and then how Bilbo seems to consider whether to play or not. "...if I lose I get eaten; if I win, there's a chance he won't keep his word and kill me anyway; if I refuse, I have to fight him and even if I win I still don't know the way out...guess I really have no choice." Also, very polite of Smeagol to let his guest go first!😆
In the book Gollum actually said “we only has six” referring to his teeth. I love how happy he was when he figured the riddle 😍 his reaction is cute also the way he add an S to every plural, handses, eggses, Hobbitses 😂
I’m gonna be quite honest! I love BOTH The Hobbit films and the LOTR films. However, the LOTR films are objectively better. If there’s anything I absolutely love about the Hobbit films it’s Martin Freeman and Richard Armitage! The Middle-earth series is definitely a series I’ll always love and cherish!
I love how when Bilbo offers to play a game of riddles, saying "Just you and me" Gollum/Smeagol looks around and whispers "Just-just us!" As if there's anyone else who might feel left out and want to partake in their private game.
I think he says that because he needs Gollum in the game, to win. If it was a game of riddles between just Smeagol and Bilbo I have no doubt Bilbo would win easily, the addition of "Gollum" (the cunning, clever, malicious part of Smeagol) meant his chances were far better
Honestly, one of the best scenes in the entire trilogy. The dynamic between these two is epic. Actually 2 of the best scenes involve these two. The other one is when Bilbo chooses to show Gollum mercy.
Smeagol in this film is a CG master piece. The best CG and motion capturing I've ever seen. The detail on his skin, his eyes, his expressions. It is an achievement in film history in my book.
@@VinthechadI love how you can see his thought process on his face. First he is stun-locked by the brazenness of Sméagol telling the price of losing, then he wants to object, stops himself and considers the absurdity of how he even got into this situation and that death probable in any outcome he took. “… Fair Enough.”
I love the desperate mumbling in the end of this scene where Gollum guesses "fish bones, shelles, batwings"... it says a lot about his whole world of reference for the last 500 years if he thinks Bilbo might be carrying batwings in his pocketsess 😂. A hilarious moment in an otherwise very dark scene 😄
Gollum had already asked the first riddle before the game started, which is why Bilbo has the last riddle and Gollum says ‘last chance’. If Gollum had gotten that one correct they would have tied.
I know the Hobbit films aren’t very good on average, but this first film honestly came a lot closer than the others to capturing the charm of the book. I think this scene is genuinely a great adaptation, just two great actors being allowed to just act out the excellent interactions between Bilbo and Gollum. It’s genuinely incredible that this is the same trilogy that included that awful romantic sub plot or all those video game action sequences (one of which this bit sadly had to share screentime with!)
Gonna be honest, yes I know the Hobbit overall wasn't as good as Lord of the Rings, but boy when the Hobbit nailed it in scenes like this one, perfection.
4:09 is close to the book: “Is it nice, my preciousss? Is it juicy? Is it scrumptiously crunchable?” Tolkien, J.R.R.. The Hobbit: 75th Anniversary Edition (p. 77). Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. Kindle Edition.
I feel so bad for gollum, can you imagine being cursed, killing your cousin, living for 600 years, having a split personality, wanting to eat things that are alive? Couldn’t imagine
Gollum's "That's not fair, it's against the rules!" reminds me so much of playing board games (like Monopoly) with siblings and friends as a kid and constantly arguing about "house rules"
I LOVE Andy's hand-animated performance in LoTR. I really do. But this Gollum is better. Goes to show motion tracking really is the new rotoscoping. Gives a life-like accuracy to the movement that you don't get with key-framing, no matter how good the CG artist is.
I know they lit the scene to display the incredible job they did with the animation and Serkis' acting... But just to see what it would've been like, I watched this scene with the brightness WAY down, to the point where it was difficult to see more than very dark glimpses and close facial zooms. Gollum feels MUCH more intimidating when you feel like he is capable of moving around in the darkness with ease while Bilbo should be struggling to see at all. If you've ever been in a cave you know that ANY light is honestly unrealistic, but even the book describes Bilbo as being able to see the green glint in Gollum's eyes. I felt that a tiny bit of light, just enough to where it is still pretty difficult to make out what you're seeing on screen during this scene, felt the most like I remember imagining when I first read the book.
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In the book Bilbo won on a lucky accident. With the time riddle, Gollum was about to call himself the winner, and Bilbo, wanting more time to think, simply burst out "time" in a panic, to which Gollum got angry at him saying the correct answer, and Bilbo just went along with it
I like how they changed that in the film but it's still Gollum's fault for trying to eat Bilbo. In the book it's made clear that it was Gollum's pressure what made Bilbo say simply "time" and here it is him saying "time's up".
Gollum gollum!!!
@@h20deliriousvr19 Gollum freaking out like that is almost similar to a schizophrenic child i remember working with years ago, his babysitter used to let him watch alot of horror movies, and therefore he grew a fascination for werewolves, so much so that it influenced his behavior in a negative way, whenever he got pissed off or someone got him mad he would suddenly start spurting out "He's a werewolf! He's a werewolf!" This meant in his mind he was becoming a werewolf and was a precursor that he was about to go apeshit on someone. Suffice to say Gollum could very well classify as a schizophrenic patient in my eyes.
@@torytellstales let's hope that kid doesn't grow up to be a furry
They honored that to the best of their ability I thought
Andy serkis playing as Gollum was an amazing performance
Truly iconic!
If and when you get a chance, he did an audiobook reading of the entire story. It's here on youtube. I thought it a gem when i found it and listened on a long road trip. He does an excellent job of reading as well as the well known voice of gollum and other characters in the story. It's free here on UA-cam
@@lilmike2710 oh yeah I’ve listened to it the riddles in the dark chapter is awesome with Serkis narrating
@@StreamOnMax I got his voice it sounds like stitch a lil bit right?
Matthew 11:15 KJV
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Are you saved? Where will you go when you die? Heaven or hell?
The Gospel, which means the Good News is the news that God Almighty, the Creator came in the flesh as Jesus Christ to take away the sin of the world. The one God is a trinity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son came and laid down his own life to save ours. His sacrifice on the cross paid the price for our redemption with his own blood. On the third day he rose from dead and offers the gift of salvation and forgiveness to those that repent and trust in him. Although God's creation was created perfect, having no death, sickness and disease, the creation became corrupted through Adam and Eve in them disobeying God. In this rebellion the creation became fallen through the curse of sin and mankind became separated from God. This world is fallen, but God offers reconciliation to him through his provision at the cross. Ultimately God will restore his creation to perfection when he returns but those that who reject his offer of redemption will remain condemned by their sins and go to hell.
John 1:1,14 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. [14] And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us,
1 John 3:8 KJV
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 1:10 KJV
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and THE WORLD KNEW HIM NOT.
0:16 I love how genuinely happy Smeagol looked when Bilbo said he wanted to play. He's been alone in the Misty Mountains for 500 years and finally a real person comes along who's actually being kind to him and wants to do some riddles. And yeah, he also wants to eat him, but at least it’s the closest thing he’s had to a friend since he found the Ring.
But he still wanted to kill bilbo, dats sad
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I recently started reading the Fellowship of the Ring and gandalf makes such a heartbreaking point about this moment. Since Smeagol was not much different from a hobbit once, those riddles connected him with a tradition and a culture that he knew. That this little part of him was still there, hiding from the ring.
I just made myself so sad.
Gollum: stop playing with your food.
@@neckdaily3292 i feel bad for smeagol
In the books that was literally a horror scene, it was terrifying. In the movie they made it a little more funny but kept the tension, which is very good to ease the situation and then make a boom when Gollum realises he's been stolen his Precious.
The 70's animated Bakshi version of this scene is more like that. There's no hint of the Smeagol childlike personality. Gollum is creepy as hell in that version.
Well interestingly enough originally it wasn’t, it was a sort of like the movie’s scene. It was actually a scene where bilbo beats Gollum at riddles and then Gollum gives him the ring as a reward, but then he wrote lord of the rings and re-wrote this scene entirely for the re-release that coincided the lord of the rings release so it would be more in line with those stories.
@@sethzwicker3631 Especially with the "green glowing eyes" and when he paddles on the lake, furious, his eyes fiery, fixated on Bilbo. I can't imagine being in Bilbo's shoes at that moment.
@@maggiesinthemud5638 Yea that's very interesting, but I think the version you're talking about exists, although it's not in sale.
@@maggiesinthemud5638 So, the first edition of the book has Gollum simply handing over the ring willingly?
And then he changed it for a reprint later?
I loved this scene. Even though you know Bilbo wins, you feel the tension.
Yess..., just just us?
yess me loves it tooooo
“If Baggins loses we eats it whole “ -Gollum
“Fair enough “- Bilbo
Best reply that was ever replied
Bilbo doesn't win
That's why I enjoy this scene too. They didn't try to complicate things, and didn't just skip to Bilbo getting ring and then getting out, because we know that happens. Instead they decided to make the scene entertaining with the riddles.
Fun fact: In Middle-Earth lore, some of the oldest and most popular riddles were made up by the elves, who actually put some magic into them which made you forget the answer after a while, so the riddle could be asked time and time again. It's no coincidence that the riddles in "the Hobbit" were universally poems, they're more akin to magic formulas than trick questions from a lore perspective.
Betting that was something Tolkien would have loved in real life, which is why he wrote the idea
I have a book of Mother Goose rhymes, and a bunch of them are riddles, but I would never have figured them out without the answers being printed right there. 😅
This sounds like a necessity to keep from getting bored from living for thousands of years
@@JohnPeacekeeper Elven minds are different; they don't need such tricks.
Can you give a source for Tolkien saying that?
Gollum: "Three guesses, precious. It must give us three."
*Only two fingers up*
lmao reminds of that princess gameshow scene from Shrek
@@Nobodyyoucarabout "pick number three, my lord." *holds up two fingers*
@@immydubby5789 *three fingers up*
The opposite of king louie in jungle book when he said "have two bananas" but holds up three fingers.
30 white horses but we only got sixes teeth
Freeman and Serkis absolutely killed it in this scene 😊
Just like they did in Black Panther!
@@jamesplunkett8912 Wow, I didn’t realize that Klaw and Gollum were played by the same guy.
@@capncake8837his real name is Andy Serkis
@@capncake8837 he also did ceasar
I love how Gollum symbolizes Smeagol's fears and anxiety, when Bilbo mentions that he indeed does want to play, Smeagol comes out and is very happy. But when Smeagol starts being thrown tricky questions, he fluctuates between the two characters.
Lol
Thanks Cpt Obvious
Damn
@@foxernator No, thank you for seeing a 3 year old comment and giving me an excuse to rewatch this scene. Love Andy's work as Smeagol.
@@BrotherCarver Good stuff
All of Gollum's riddles stem from his isolation in the mountain and the ring's influence on his mind. The mountain is where he's been trapped by it, the wind is what he heard before he entered the mountain, and time is what has lost meaning to him, due to the ring extending his lifetime.
Underrated comment! Excellent observation!
Noice one matey.
And in the book he asks one about fish: "Living without breath, cold as death. Never thirsty, always drinking. Clothed in mail, never clinking."
@@macksonamission1784 That one is used in one of the older animated films though. 🤔🤷 Sounds very familiar.
And Bilbo’s riddles remind Gollum of his former life as Sméagol. Teeth, food other than fish…
anyone else notice at 5:25 he throws the rock he was about to kill Bilbo with after being stumped by the question. Bilbo looks and laughs like "Yeah but you were about to kill me with that rock dickhead"
LOL!
ASK US ANOTHER ONE !!
I also love how Gollum just curls up in a ball on the floor and petulantly whines like a child when he loses the game and realizes he won’t get to eat the hobbit for dinner.
Yeah, he’s a villain, but he’s got some standards. LOL!
Ah yes the floor is made out of floor
This is a bit unnecessary scene since Gollum was always gonna try to kill him and obviously Bilbo was never gonna let himself eaten just because he lost a bet. But building up tension nicely rather than having just another chasing scene.
Have you ever noticed that when smeagol is in control his eyes are dialated and when is gollum they aren't?
Holy crap, I do now. I'm a little surprised I didn't notice before.
No…but I’ll be sure to look out for it
Edit: yup…there it is
yeah, it is one of the tricks the films use to make the character of Smeagol more appealing compared to Gollum. One of the other ones being the voice. Great catch!
It makes him look more innocent than Gollum; between the two, Gollum is more conniving, sly, and overall unpleasant. Narrowed eyes often give people that impression, especially if the narrowing is obviously intentional. ‘Innocent’ figures in media like television and cinema often have dilated pupils or eyes in general, to make them seem more adorable/relatable/pitiable. Sméagol is the more trusting of the two, with a better nature, and the dilation of his pupils underlines that. We feel sorry for Sméagol and his predicament, and we can feel that more clearly when contrasting him to Gollum.
@Johnt Schmichal I did not say that I believed Sméagol to be innocent. You’re only proving my point, as was the point of the character. Feeling bad for him was intended, and no matter the character trait, the intention was so, as produced by Tolkien’s hand and the film. The special effects of the film make him seem that way, to lure the viewer into a false sense of security, as Frodo was, in a way. The contrast is a distraction; the obvious ill-intent of Gollum is a diversion, so the two, with the same ultimate goals, may achieve them, most notably, acquiring the One Ring. Also, there is only evidence that Sméagol was corrupted by the Ring, as he did evil, as we saw, only after seeing it. I know not of solid proof to show that Sméagol was evil before encountering the One Ring.
5:57 “Knife! Oh shut up!”
I remember the audience and I laughing in the theatre when we first heard that!
1:20 the animation is simply phenomenal
It's all thanks to Andy Serkis and his unmatched acting in motion capture
@@allsmilesguy That's just gross disrespect to the movie's entire VFX Department, everyone else who contributed, and to the amount of hours they put into post production. 🤦♂️
Marvel should take notes
And the swing between Smeagol's pure glee and Gollum's malice is excellent.
@@andersonii4478 Yeah I get what the guy was trying to do but giving credit to Serkis alone, let's just say the sentence could've been better written.
1:22
Am I only one Who Finds Gollum’s Thinking Expression kinda Cute?? 😄😊
I love his face when he says, “ooh, we knows!”
@@katygaston8777 Shut up 😂😂😂
@@migosgang8497 I didn’t say anything
@@The1Dragonprincess i wasn't talking to you 😂
Mixed feelings 😅😄😕🤢
I love this, the three of them in a game of deathly riddles; Gollum obviously the brain and cunning, while Smeagol is just having fun playing and waiting for his meal, while Bilbo fights for his life
One of the many scenes that made me respect Bilbo even more
The cuteness with which he says
' if baginsses loses, we eats it whole'. Damn. 😂
I'm glad that despite its flaws, The Hobbit Trilogy got the two most important scenes in the book right: Riddles in the Dark and Conversations with Smaug. And this is one of the few reasons I don't hate and dismiss the Trilogy completely. It's scenes like these, and some other details that they did right, that makes it worth a watch for me.
Hot take as someone watchd chronologicaly i loved Hobbit more than lotr
@@sarov7658 similarly me as well
I liked both because I watched them in order .
I m now finding that people somehow hated this masterpiece
Maybe because of nostalgia with lotr
I do think The Hobbit Trilogy isn't good, it's really only The Unexpected Journey. I think it should've been 1 movie, cut all filler, 3 hours and enough time in preproduction, it would've been an amazing film on par with the OT LOTR Trilogy.
However, I really like The Unexpected Journey, it's not outstanding but damn, it's solid, The movie is underrated and deserves more love despite the outcome of the rest of the trilogy.
Also the conversations with Smaug in The Desolation of Smaug movie are sick and The Barrel Scene is tight, I don't care what anybody says.
@@sakibmir5360 I don’t hate it, but it’s unnecessarily bloated (being a short children’s book, my edition has 289 pages; Half of fellowship)
@@sakibmir5360 same i watched them before reading and i was surprised how much people hated it
fun fact: in the book it's mentioned that all of the riddles were old hobbit riddles, this subtly references Gollum's/smeagul's origins as a hobbit
All we are saying is give us a chance, precious, give us a chance!
This scene is so tense and frightening. Especially when Gollum figures out what Bilbo has in his filthy little Pocketses.
Yeah, definitely. One of the few scenes in which Gollum was a threatening villain.
naughty hobbitses
@@Jubiedanny47 Nasty little hobbitses, as my mom likes to use to describe the dreary weather in our area whenever it occurs.
His birthday-present!!
I love how CGI has improved so well that you can see Andy's face at times, his expressions mimicked so well with the mocap.
Gollum CGI is upgraded but not for the orcs lol
Just when you think Gollum’s CGI couldn’t get any better, Weta does it again with The Hobbit.
Weta wouldn't been able to achieve the greatness of creating Gollum without the great Andy Serkis.
@@michaelluisalbaladejo6319 The artists deserve equal or maybe even more credit. Without them, this wouldn't have been possible in the first place.
The level of co-ordination this requires is extremely hard.
@@michaelluisalbaladejo6319 So, saying that is ignorant.
@@vampirethespiderbatgod9740 And WETA has said that they woulda never achieve it without Andy
@@vampirethespiderbatgod9740 To deny Weta's claim about Andy is ignorant.
I love how this perfectly balances golemes playful cute personality with his sadistic border line horrifying personality for example the line
'If bangingses looses we eats it whole.'
0:50 wait why was that so cute omg this is so adorable... How can he literally say he will eat him whole and still be so cute
An excellent film..Andy Serkis was made for that role. Also Martin Freeman played a brilliant young Bilbo.
Martin Freeman is one of the best actors of this generation. He’s obviously done well for himself but I can’t help but still find him underrated. He’s got incredible talent.
Its a diamond in the ruff of the other Hobbit movies as I've always held it as
Gollum; "If Bagginses loses, we eats it whole"
Bilbo; "Fair enough" 🤣🤣 What a reaction!! 😅
Peak Martin Freeman
1:00 Such masterful acting/animation. You can see that Gollum is considering jumping Bilbo now that he's put his sword away, but Smeagol wins the argument and he becomes cheerful again and starts the game. It's such a subtle change on his face but you can easily understand exactly what is going through his head.
0:43 - 1:00 I love Gollum's tone of explaining the obvious to Smeagol that they'd eat him and then how Bilbo seems to consider whether to play or not.
"...if I lose I get eaten; if I win, there's a chance he won't keep his word and kill me anyway; if I refuse, I have to fight him and even if I win I still don't know the way out...guess I really have no choice."
Also, very polite of Smeagol to let his guest go first!😆
I feel like he was more taken back by gollum wanting to eat him whole. He seemed confused how gollum would manage to eat him whole
3:05 gollums thinking is incredible
In the book Gollum actually said “we only has six” referring to his teeth. I love how happy he was when he figured the riddle 😍 his reaction is cute also the way he add an S to every plural, handses, eggses, Hobbitses 😂
I’m gonna be quite honest! I love BOTH The Hobbit films and the LOTR films. However, the LOTR films are objectively better. If there’s anything I absolutely love about the Hobbit films it’s Martin Freeman and Richard Armitage! The Middle-earth series is definitely a series I’ll always love and cherish!
Well jackson only wanted to do 2 movies, they forced him to stretch it to 3 and rather last minute
@@disturbed157 i would have rather seen guillerma del toro do the 2 films as originally planned
@@StrangerBlocks yeah Del Toro has a thing for practical effects too so I think they would also look quite a lot better.
@@grandmasterkaiju3821 ya there is an interview of him nearly crying talking about how he didn’t make them and saying it’s like being widowed
I first loved the hobbit then lotr and to Tolkien their creator.
I love how when Bilbo offers to play a game of riddles, saying "Just you and me" Gollum/Smeagol looks around and whispers "Just-just us!" As if there's anyone else who might feel left out and want to partake in their private game.
I think he says that because he needs Gollum in the game, to win. If it was a game of riddles between just Smeagol and Bilbo I have no doubt Bilbo would win easily, the addition of "Gollum" (the cunning, clever, malicious part of Smeagol) meant his chances were far better
You can really see so much of gollums dual personality in this scene it’s incredible
Honestly, one of the best scenes in the entire trilogy. The dynamic between these two is epic. Actually 2 of the best scenes involve these two. The other one is when Bilbo chooses to show Gollum mercy.
I daresay it's the best and one of the few good moments in the entire trilogy.
gollum is an old man and a child at the same time and his expressions are amazing
4:36 The way he said *”Times up.”* was literally so menacing and terrifying
Time...Time, the answer is Time.
for me that was his cutest moment of all time.
Smeagol in this film is a CG master piece. The best CG and motion capturing I've ever seen. The detail on his skin, his eyes, his expressions. It is an achievement in film history in my book.
"If Baggins looses, then we eats it whole. :)"
👁👄👁
"Fair enough."
That part always makes me chuckle every time. Martin Freeman's body language & expressions says it all
*loses
@@VinthechadI love how you can see his thought process on his face. First he is stun-locked by the brazenness of Sméagol telling the price of losing, then he wants to object, stops himself and considers the absurdity of how he even got into this situation and that death probable in any outcome he took.
“… Fair Enough.”
The calmest response ever😂😂😂
I love the desperate mumbling in the end of this scene where Gollum guesses "fish bones, shelles, batwings"... it says a lot about his whole world of reference for the last 500 years if he thinks Bilbo might be carrying batwings in his pocketsess 😂. A hilarious moment in an otherwise very dark scene 😄
5:45 this is a nice detail included from the book. Bilbo also had his hand in his pocket when this happens and he quickly pulls it out
As tense as this scene is, it was nice of Gollum to let Bilbo go first.
Yeah that's a big advantage. Although I think that was Smeagol, because he was so excited about the game
Gollum had already asked the first riddle before the game started, which is why Bilbo has the last riddle and Gollum says ‘last chance’. If Gollum had gotten that one correct they would have tied.
I know the Hobbit films aren’t very good on average, but this first film honestly came a lot closer than the others to capturing the charm of the book. I think this scene is genuinely a great adaptation, just two great actors being allowed to just act out the excellent interactions between Bilbo and Gollum. It’s genuinely incredible that this is the same trilogy that included that awful romantic sub plot or all those video game action sequences (one of which this bit sadly had to share screentime with!)
Always loved the bit at 2:49 where he calls the question nasty 😆
The cgi in this movie is incredible. Gollum's skin looks very real
I love his face when he say "time's up" 🤷🏻♀️ 🤭
You pretty 😊
“Teef? TEEF!!! Yes, my precious!”
Teef
I got 1000000000 teeth
2:09"Oh, oh! We knows! We knows!
Shut up!" 😂
But we, we.. only have...nine!
@@havenspringer lol
Gonna be honest, yes I know the Hobbit overall wasn't as good as Lord of the Rings, but boy when the Hobbit nailed it in scenes like this one, perfection.
6:07 - Me when I ask my mom for McDonald's driveby but she passed over it
LMAO!
I love how Gollum throws his murder weapon rock in a tantrum, and Bilbo reacts to it like a bemused parent telling off his grouchy kid.
I live the delivery of the line “if baggins looses we eats it whole”
And then Bilbo's response
@@eryvac0074 fair enough! 😂😂
@@alexandermacdonald499 meanwhile, in his head: (in a Texas accent) "we sure as hell ain't in the shire anymore"
“Is it scrumptious??” in Gollum’s voice! OMG 😂❤️
3:06 me when im taking a dump
0:11 , I love this shot of Gollum becoming Smeagol.
I have not watched the movies, but read the book, everyone said this scene is iconic and this scene was exactly how it is described in the book
Probably the best scene in the entire trilogy. Which isn't saying much
expressions on gollum's face is precious.....
@5:41 you must give us 3.
“Holds up 2 fingers” 🤣
He held up 3, though, didn't he? Half his hand isn't on screen
2:08 best part of the movie hands down...
absolutely, made me laugh out loud all by myself! 😂
🤣🤣🤣
I love the egg riddle just cause Gollum went from murderous charge to excited hearing the riddle and then to thinking deeply of the answer....
and the subtitles in this video give a very different answer lmfao
at 5:00 , the second time gollum says : Ask us !!
it always give me chill, such a great scene and great performance.
that was so funny
This scene was more captivating than the whole battle of the five armies.
It was my favourite chapter in the book. I'm happy to see it's my favourite moment of the Hobbit trilogy. Peter Jackson really nailed the scene.
1:32 this is a cool premonition on how gollum is about to call bilbo at, when he finds out what's inside Bilbo's pocket.
4:09 is close to the book:
“Is it nice, my preciousss? Is it juicy? Is it scrumptiously crunchable?”
Tolkien, J.R.R.. The Hobbit: 75th Anniversary Edition (p. 77). Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. Kindle Edition.
It's amazing how clever Smeagol is.
*Handses!*
*Nothing!*
"that's not fair! it's against the rules!" lmao gets me every time
0:36 The way Gollum says he's gets to eat Bilbo if he loses is hilarious!💯😂😂
Gollum is cute in an ugly way whenever his mind switches to Sméagol
He’s definitely adorable.
His facial expressions are so cute. 😂❤
GOLLUM IS SO CUTE 😂
I feel so bad for gollum, can you imagine being cursed, killing your cousin, living for 600 years, having a split personality, wanting to eat things that are alive? Couldn’t imagine
Well he basically just became a junkie. He does not care about anything real as long as he stays alive somehow and can get high over and over.
They excluded the last part of the last riddle. It also said “slays king, ruins town, and beats high mountain down.”
No, I heard that part of the riddle here.
This and Bilbo's conversation with Smaug are the two best scenes in the entire trilogy
Gollum's "That's not fair, it's against the rules!" reminds me so much of playing board games (like Monopoly) with siblings and friends as a kid and constantly arguing about "house rules"
Yeah, the Sméagol side of his personality is like an excited little kid or happy puppy dog.
the emotions are so funny after gollum says give us a chance
Thank you HBO max for uploading this whole. Had to keep watching it in three separate videos.
Gollum is one of the best characters ever created. Definitely one of my faves. I can do his voice perfectly.
'knife'. "Oh Shut Up". Loolll 😂😂
After learning more about gollum and bilbo I’m finally starting to realize how legendary this scene actually is
That was a amazing scene.
What a Great Acting
Lmao at Bilbo using the old "Pick a number im thinking of, 1 through 10!" To win this
I LOVE Andy's hand-animated performance in LoTR. I really do. But this Gollum is better. Goes to show motion tracking really is the new rotoscoping. Gives a life-like accuracy to the movement that you don't get with key-framing, no matter how good the CG artist is.
The bones surrounding his "lair" are super creepy, like he doesn't even bother to just chuck them in the lake. He doesn't care.
2:42 He said bulls**t 😂
4:35 love the calm, casual "times up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
1:10 get yourself someone who looks at you like Gollum looks at Bilbo
Someone who looks at you like food?
@@hercules2606hd he seemed inlove with it
Look at how happy smeagol gets when bilbo says he had love to play with him
Subtitles: "AXES!" HBO showing their incompetence once more.
*Smeagol:* "Oh, oh, we knows, we knows!"
*Gollum:* "Shut up!"
Best scene in Hobbit series
I know they lit the scene to display the incredible job they did with the animation and Serkis' acting... But just to see what it would've been like, I watched this scene with the brightness WAY down, to the point where it was difficult to see more than very dark glimpses and close facial zooms. Gollum feels MUCH more intimidating when you feel like he is capable of moving around in the darkness with ease while Bilbo should be struggling to see at all. If you've ever been in a cave you know that ANY light is honestly unrealistic, but even the book describes Bilbo as being able to see the green glint in Gollum's eyes. I felt that a tiny bit of light, just enough to where it is still pretty difficult to make out what you're seeing on screen during this scene, felt the most like I remember imagining when I first read the book.
Gf: why did you stop?
The 10 second guy: 4:36
Bruh this made me snort my drink
I don't get it
@@abhinavsumesh2549 performance on the bed. You know........
I love the way Gollum’s face kept changing as he thought of an answer
I love the accuracy with the fact that Bilbo only accidentally asks him what's in his pocket then goes with it
"Eggsies... grandmother taughts us to sucks them!"
It hits differently when you think about how long Smeagol's mind was enslaved by the ring.
I like how Gollum just melodramatically whines in annoyance when he loses to Bilbo. That’s actually a pretty human reaction.
Andy Serkis is a god for playing Gollum so perfectly
Smeagle: EGGSES
Captions: AXES. 20 LITTLE AXES.
Gollum played a trick on us
Gollum is the only fictional character that can give me insomnia and anxiety attacks in the middle of the night.
Why? I find him adorable in a weird way
@@alomtz4359 yeah, he is. But u wouldn't want him to be hangin around while u sleep right?
WHY Gollum, of all fictional people?
Nahh facts he's pure nightmare fuel 😂
I want him as a pet.