A narcissist does not care what hurt or harm their blackmaleing ,and if you love them ,they only care what they want from you regardless if you want to give it ! Let's remember they intentionaly seek out people they see as kind and given and weak ! They plot before you ever get to be anything with them , you either comply with their demands or you will be punished with anything you care about , So no they will never feel guilty or admit lies EVER ! Just be ready for the worst abuse they will put on you and stay strong in being a good person and keep your Morales and values close becouse they will use those first to make you look like what they tell everyone ,useing all their flying monkeys ! They have already made you look like them to others , so I would focus on hideing while you have departed and just let them say and do becouse you can't stop them and sticking around to prove them wrong just gives them many chances at makeing themselves look like the poor victim or make you mad and they send you to jail ! They don't care if they look wrong ! All they care about is getting to put in the last act ! Just save your self and any little bit of dignity you have left ! You will have to start from scratch if you married one but just think about getting to be a happy human person released from hell !
They leave a lot of serious destruction behind them, then press the reset button to do it all again. Normal people don't do that and get to live healthy lives. That's their Karma.
They won’t change anyway, so yes they should be punished/ be on the receiving end of negative consequences. The alternative is they just keep on being horrible destructive human beings with no consequences and that doesn’t seem right.
I totally agree. There should be consequences for the pain they cause others and the destruction they leave behind them. Everyone should be responsible for their actions. It would appear the narcissist is not.
I want my ex to experience the kind of hurt and mistreatment he showed me. I already know he will get his comeuppance, maybe not in this life but the next one. If he could experience the hell on earth he put me through and perhaps understand what he did was so very wrong, that would be fine by me. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be nice. I'm not sorry that I want him to hurt. He didn't care when he was hurting me, so I won't be sorry if he gets a taste of his own medicine. Thanks, Ben.
Right. Cuz when you wish harm on others, it actually comes back to you. Old saying: when you spit up in the air, the same spit comes back in your face. Gross, but true.
Just want to mention that some of us don't necessarily want punishment so much as we want them to understand so that they feel compelled to STOP being hurtful.
They do get there karma sometimes in old age! I have personally witnessed a narc who abused his children, some became narcs and others codependent empaths. In his old age the Narc was severely abused and murderd by his narc son, the golden child who was after the house, money. It’s very sad what happened but you shall reap what you sow!
I want my ex to understand the enormous pain and suffering he put me through. The anguish,the tears,the misery. I want him to feel what it's like to hurt deep inside like that. It's the only way he could understand exactly what he puts me through.And still,the nightmares don't stop. I'll always have to look over my shoulder now. If there's any justice at all,one day life will force him to understand everything he puts me through on a daily basis. His sadistic streak,the lies he tells,the secrets he shared. I hope it comes back on him. Because people like that NEED to realize that there's consequences for bad behaviour. The dumbest thing was that I loved him. Even in spite of everything. I'm really really angry at myself for giving him so many damn chances to change. All for nothing. My love was shit on and considered worthless. 😢
I see karma as a flow of human interaction. The way things are going these days though, maybe power does confer right? Whether antagonistic jerks get negative karma is something I'll have to see to believe though, because while the school bullies grow up to become successful and are forgiven for being kids back in the day, their less aggressive victims have to deal with depression and failure for life and are usually the ones who are supposed to forgive others.
Exactly! This sounds 100 percent like my neighbour Denis. There was no chance in hell of sustaining a friendship with him, because he is too mean-spirited. He hates just about everyone, but most of all, himself. I avoid him like the black plague, and I NEVER want to have anything to do with him again.
@@nickolaszissimos1189 Yes, Denis is toxic like the day is long. He said a number of hurtful things to me, and would then bombard me with love letters that he would slip under my door, only to reset. He called me stupid, naive, a dirty Italian, and he even called me a bitch in front of a past roommate, a woman I befriended. He even accused me of being asexual because I expressed disgust over the neighborhood "Easy Evie", and it was because of him that I woke up with bedbug bites!
@@victoriasegall3404 He is a plague, isn't he, yeah vengeful people like him for no reason need to be left alone so that they have no choice but to face themselves. They focus on others to distract themselves from doing that. I am the opposite, Iprefer to br alone allot and probably like introspection a little too much.
Punishment brings pain. Pain builds perseverance. Perseverance builds character and healing. So be thankful. Just as you learned lessons from your horrific experience with a narc, they will learn their lesson when they face consequences sooner or later, and be thankful.
Punishment also brings pain which often can lead to trauma and a lot of other things... Discipline is about helping versus punishment just gets conformity.
I don't wish Karma however, I do wish they understand who they are and get help to have a better, productive life, make healthy choices, create a loving and non toxic relationship for themselves and another.
Yes punishment BUT also we all just want to be understood. We need to accept that they will NEVER feel what we feel and how deeply we feel, their brain won't allow it. The ONLY karma they will understand as punishment is in complete loss of their supply. Supply goes No contact, stays gone = narcissist's Karma/punishment.
No, I don’t want him punished, I just want him to understand what I’m feeling, so maybe not to do or say those things anymore. If he could understand this without going through what I do I would want that instead. I don’t want ANYONE to feel and go through what I do. But it seems that only someone who has gone through it understands it. So that’s what I mean when I say I want him to go through or I wish he would go through what he has put me through. I just want him to stop hurting me. To stop treating me the way he does. I don’t want to have to leave, and I wish he would get it. That’s all. I don’t want anyone else, including him, abused…
Living a lie is a punishment in a big way. Must be exhausting. Mostly? I pity him. He’s incapable of love? That right there IS karma. What a sad & empty existence.
My mother is a narcissist, amongst several other diagnosable conditions, and her house recently burned down. She turned that into an opportunity to feed on more people. Let that be a lesson in itself narcissists will always turn tragedy, even their own, into opportunity.
Hurting never helps. I wish she was aware... Then reach out to me so i can show her that real people will forgive and have no expectations. We have boundaries, but we actually care about others. Maybe she would learn from it. Maybe it could help her to heal what it is inside her that keeps her from being able to love properly and help her to work on her impulsive behaviors. She may be a narc, but shes still a human. We all are.
They do get their karma. They do get punished, I've seen it happen many times in many ways. Personally I don't care whether they change or not. It's not about them, As long as we have changed for the better who cares what happens to them? As long as we see justice happening, even if it is for a moment, it's OK. They can go on narking until they are blue. Who cares what eventually happens to people like that?
I have to admit that "I" do wish Karma on him.. . Not punishment exactly BUT for him to experience JUST what HE DID to me somehow - By either getting with a partner JUST like them OR at least reach a level of acknowledgement & remorse & understanding.. . Maybe even an apology?🤔 I thought that they would understand by feeling or living it themselves! I've learned impossible for Narcicists!🤣 But.. . I did have some hope.. . Once upon a time!🙃
Mine did he broke his shoulder in a fall coming here to see me in FL from TX and then he was going to visit his new supply right after he left here she also lives in FL. Was incapacitated for months.
Ugh I have to forgive them and just pray for them privately or when I feel negative energy I pray for that to go away and UA-cam is great for sharing so thx for the reminder
Karma is the everlasting emptiness one gets for the half hearted. You can't feel someone else's pain. If you caused the pain, would you love to see them drown in misery? I take no pride in others pain and suffering. Karma speaks to everyone. When you point the finger, the finger may be pointing at you. Nothing begets violence, but violence. Same for aggression.
I don't want them to get punished or hurt. I wish they would at least try to understand the pain and confusion and how damaged that they leave us in. I wish that they would be self aware and get help so they can be TRULY Happy and the Best version of themselves that they can be. The world is FKD up enough without everyone playing tit for tat.
Sowing - All people "Reap what they Sow" That CANNOT be stopped !!! ... Good seeds bring blessing... Bad seed brings hurtful circumstances Oh Well - One gets what they Sowed... Get ready for your "consequences"... Look in the mirror and blame ONLY who you see...
The narc punishes us the entire relationship. So yes they need to be punished for as long as they betrayed us. But vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord and He will punish those who hurt the weak and the children of His kingdom. My narc spouse is a true fake Christian and his facade can’t fool me much less the Lord Almighty. This man doesn’t even know what the gospel is when you ask him. He hates when I speak about God. Now he’s got demons around him apparently visible and he’s scared. He can’t walk through the front door of this house without running right back out cuz he gets dizzy and nauseous. Vengeance is the Lord’s and He will punish the wicked for me.
I think people want them to feel what you feel. You hit the nail on the head. I don’t if that’s punishment or not, but I think that’s what everyone wants to see
I agree that punishment and revenge aren't going to help anyone. I've known a few (with traits and the "typical" manipulative behaviors; but I've never known anyone who was officially diagnosed with NPD) who feel that boundaries are a type of punishment or revenge. That's a hard line to navigate, especially when I cannot tell with certainty which ones truly feel my boundaries that way vs those who are just putting on an act.
I one upped my ex NARC to the point he was in tears and threatened suicide. His career was on the line and prison. Even that did not change him!!! He went back to pointing fingers at others, gaslighting, all the same BS.
So do they get kamar? You didn't fully answer the question... The narcissist gets karma when the end up with another narcissist and they are on the recieveing side of the abuse by a more advance narcissist. They usually bounce up those kinds
Everyone gets karma . The NARC’s karma is to DIE ALONE. In a lonely banana boat in the middle of the vast ocean with out Hope~ Prof Sam Vaknin said that.
Sorry but pathological narcs don't have a great life..😂consider all the Problems that they have with them self... They justact like everything is fine and wonderful with them and their life..thats just gas lighting of society😁
You don't know what is happening behind the closed doors. It may appera all hunky dory to you. But such people they carry themselves wherever they go. They won't be any different with the other person.
All that glitters isn't gold when it comes to this lot of people. Everything is done for show. It is illusory. I have seen this many times, including with my estranged brother, who, btw, is a malignant narcissist. He got 3 divorces, his daughter and his son cut him off and now take their mother's last name, he's a 63 year-old alcoholic and cocaine addict, and he has no friends. Only acquaintances. Lastly, his good looks went down the toilette! Lol! 😆
This is so true, things that happened to the narcissist that might humble the average person,like the death of his only child, only made him more evil and relish in all the sympathy that was shown to him. No change behavior just demonic and manipulative as always.
My narcissist got krama and inside I was enjoying every moment. After 20+ years of marriage he was having a 6+ month affair. We were trying to work it out and keep our marriage when he had a prostate cancer scare. Thankfully he did not have any cancer but the 15+ biopsy samples taken from his prostate that day put me in full bliss. Payback for straying from the marriage.
I'm sorry to hear that. It is tough and takes a lot of effort to deal with that experience. Thank you for sharing. I wish you the best on your journey!
I thought I wanted him to be punished until I found out he was shot 3 times in the chest and killed by the cops last week. Now I'm filled with so much pain.🥺😭Lord help me.
In my view the be a narcissist is karma . This is already karmic for them for what they became instead of what they could have been and the fact that they cannot change this . The emptiness inside them is a lack no one wish to have and be this way for all their lives . I don’t . So if you want them to suffer for what they are doing , know that they are already in their soul . But they will get their own share in one way or another because the nature of life is balance . . Maybe we are the one paying for something we did in a past life to someone else ? But certainly a relationship who show our own trauma or our own lack of self value and where we need to work on ourselves. No one forced us to be in this type of relationship. We are responsable for our own life. Take it back . That’s your mission . That’s your karma . Peace .
The purpose of punishment is to show the narcissist what they did was harmful and also for them to experience some sort of emotional upset so they feel and understand our pain. So the question is What type punishment that will elicit an emotional response from the narcissist that will cause change in them ? From what I experience don't ever seek revenge it only hurts you leave the matter to God he will Handel it better than you ever can! Move on to your new relationship, heal be happy. Don't tell the narcissist about your happiness, the less they know the better. You happy hurts them the most. While maintaining no contact. From what I have watched of all the videos 1) No contact; 2)Structured and cold responses, short and clear unwavering 3) Emotional Control -No response 4)Shaming them infront of others because image is everything, you hurt the image they show others and show ppl who they really are its painful 5) Criticism from others publicly That's what I learn so far!!!
Misleading! People with NPD are "dead shells " for life already.Their capacity to feel is limited between anger,envy and entitlement. They are children who lived through abuse,but sold their authentic selves to fantasy in order to survive. All they do,is just trying to relive and actually seperate from their "dead mother".But unseccsesfuly every time. There is no revange or karma needed. They are suffering constantly and will never have capasity to truly love
I don't think i wanted it to be punish but more like their lives represents the evil they are. They hurt everyone around them yet they thrive. Well at least my ex did.
I don't care if it changes anything.....cuz his actions put him in jail .......and he will go to prison bc of his history.....not mine ......he's dangerous so as long as Im safe I don't care
Tbh I don't care if it doesn't change anything or only makes them conform. I would love nothing more than seeing them humiliated and having their lives ruined. I don't care about high minded ideals, I just want them to suffer for what they did to me.
@@RawMotivations I've heard it said that "letting go" is not the same as saying that what was done was ok, but that strikes me as an empty and vacuous platitude. If there's no consequence for the abusive actions, then I don't really see any meaningful difference between telling someone to "just let it go" and "go pound sand", only that the latter is less condescending.
@@pattycannon6171 a alcoholic seems to love being drunk but it still destroys them their body and relationships. You can enjoy toxicity and still be a slave to it.
Nothing CAN change inside them.
I agree. See, we can walk away from them, but they cannot walk away from themselves. That is their lifelong punishment.
Golden words💜💜
A narcissist does not care what hurt or harm their blackmaleing ,and if you love them ,they only care what they want from you regardless if you want to give it ! Let's remember they intentionaly seek out people they see as kind and given and weak ! They plot before you ever get to be anything with them , you either comply with their demands or you will be punished with anything you care about , So no they will never feel guilty or admit lies EVER ! Just be ready for the worst abuse they will put on you and stay strong in being a good person and keep your Morales and values close becouse they will use those first to make you look like what they tell everyone ,useing all their flying monkeys ! They have already made you look like them to others , so I would focus on hideing while you have departed and just let them say and do becouse you can't stop them and sticking around to prove them wrong just gives them many chances at makeing themselves look like the poor victim or make you mad and they send you to jail ! They don't care if they look wrong ! All they care about is getting to put in the last act ! Just save your self and any little bit of dignity you have left !
You will have to start from scratch if you married one but just think about getting to be a happy human person released from hell !
Fact.
They leave a lot of serious destruction behind them, then press the reset button to do it all again.
Normal people don't do that and get to live healthy lives.
That's their Karma.
They won’t change anyway, so yes they should be punished/ be on the receiving end of negative consequences. The alternative is they just keep on being horrible destructive human beings with no consequences and that doesn’t seem right.
You change your ways if your willing the accept what you done and hold yourself accountable
I totally agree. There should be consequences for the pain they cause others and the destruction they leave behind them. Everyone should be responsible for their actions. It would appear the narcissist is not.
100 percent.
I want my ex to experience the kind of hurt and mistreatment he showed me. I already know he will get his comeuppance, maybe not in this life but the next one. If he could experience the hell on earth he put me through and perhaps understand what he did was so very wrong, that would be fine by me.
I'm not holding my breath, but it would be nice. I'm not sorry that I want him to hurt. He didn't care when he was hurting me, so I won't be sorry if he gets a taste of his own medicine.
Thanks, Ben.
I dont wish them harm, I just never want to see them ever again.
Right. Cuz when you wish harm on others, it actually comes back to you.
Old saying: when you spit up in the air, the same spit comes back in your face. Gross, but true.
Deb Mac Me too! ❤
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Just want to mention that some of us don't necessarily want punishment so much as we want them to understand so that they feel compelled to STOP being hurtful.
Exactly
I NEVER WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING THEIR KARMA. YOU GET SERVED WHAT YOU DESERVED, IN DUE TIME.
God gets the best revenge. Leave it in His hands.
I used to tell him : i don't need to waste my energy getting back at you or being mad, Life will take care of you .. he used to hate this so much 🤣
Because it’s true.
I like that! I will write it down. 😊
Being a narc IS their karma, they always have a void and are never happy.
They do get there karma sometimes in old age! I have personally witnessed a narc who abused his children, some became narcs and others codependent empaths. In his old age the Narc was severely abused and murderd by his narc son, the golden child who was after the house, money. It’s very sad what happened but you shall reap what you sow!
I want my ex to understand the enormous pain and suffering he put me through. The anguish,the tears,the misery. I want him to feel what it's like to hurt deep inside like that. It's the only way he could understand exactly what he puts me through.And still,the nightmares don't stop. I'll always have to look over my shoulder now. If there's any justice at all,one day life will force him to understand everything he puts me through on a daily basis. His sadistic streak,the lies he tells,the secrets he shared. I hope it comes back on him. Because people like that NEED to realize that there's consequences for bad behaviour. The dumbest thing was that I loved him. Even in spite of everything. I'm really really angry at myself for giving him so many damn chances to change. All for nothing. My love was shit on and considered worthless. 😢
I see karma as a flow of human interaction. The way things are going these days though, maybe power does confer right? Whether antagonistic jerks get negative karma is something I'll have to see to believe though, because while the school bullies grow up to become successful and are forgiven for being kids back in the day, their less aggressive victims have to deal with depression and failure for life and are usually the ones who are supposed to forgive others.
Until we realize? The cool kids? Not really all that cool.
@@courtneyawalsh I think you might have replied to a comment you had no intention of replying to.
Living within their own minds is punishment enough
The way I see it, a narcissist is already punishing themself. They hate themselves, they hate everyone else, they don't let go.
Exactly! This sounds 100 percent like my neighbour Denis. There was no chance in hell of sustaining a friendship with him, because he is too mean-spirited. He hates just about everyone, but most of all, himself. I avoid him like the black plague, and I NEVER want to have anything to do with him again.
@@victoriasegall3404 Yup, that is a narcissist or at least some sort of toxic person.
@@nickolaszissimos1189 Yes, Denis is toxic like the day is long. He said a number of hurtful things to me, and would then bombard me with love letters that he would slip under my door, only to reset. He called me stupid, naive, a dirty Italian, and he even called me a bitch in front of a past roommate, a woman I befriended. He even accused me of being asexual because I expressed disgust over the neighborhood "Easy Evie", and it was because of him that I woke up with bedbug bites!
@@victoriasegall3404 He is a plague, isn't he, yeah vengeful people like him for no reason need to be left alone so that they have no choice but to face themselves. They focus on others to distract themselves from doing that. I am the opposite, Iprefer to br alone allot and probably like introspection a little too much.
@@nickolaszissimos1189 you and I both!
Punishment brings pain. Pain builds perseverance. Perseverance builds character and healing.
So be thankful.
Just as you learned lessons from your horrific experience with a narc, they will learn their lesson when they face consequences sooner or later, and be thankful.
Punishment also brings pain which often can lead to trauma and a lot of other things... Discipline is about helping versus punishment just gets conformity.
I don't wish Karma however, I do wish they understand who they are and get help to have a better, productive life, make healthy choices, create a loving and non toxic relationship for themselves and another.
Exactly
Yes punishment BUT also we all just want to be understood.
We need to accept that they will NEVER feel what we feel and how deeply we feel, their brain won't allow it.
The ONLY karma they will understand as punishment is in complete loss of their supply.
Supply goes No contact, stays gone = narcissist's Karma/punishment.
Then they just get a new target & commence to making the new supply: crazy. And on & on.
If they don't need punishment, what do they need? And they do know hurt. They're narcissists for a reason.
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No, I don’t want him punished, I just want him to understand what I’m feeling, so maybe not to do or say those things anymore. If he could understand this without going through what I do I would want that instead. I don’t want ANYONE to feel and go through what I do. But it seems that only someone who has gone through it understands it. So that’s what I mean when I say I want him to go through or I wish he would go through what he has put me through. I just want him to stop hurting me. To stop treating me the way he does. I don’t want to have to leave, and I wish he would get it. That’s all. I don’t want anyone else, including him, abused…
Living a lie is a punishment in a big way. Must be exhausting. Mostly? I pity him. He’s incapable of love? That right there IS karma. What a sad & empty existence.
My mother is a narcissist, amongst several other diagnosable conditions, and her house recently burned down. She turned that into an opportunity to feed on more people. Let that be a lesson in itself narcissists will always turn tragedy, even their own, into opportunity.
Do you not find punishment effective at all then? Would you raise your children without punishment? What is the alternative you're offering
Hurting never helps. I wish she was aware... Then reach out to me so i can show her that real people will forgive and have no expectations. We have boundaries, but we actually care about others. Maybe she would learn from it. Maybe it could help her to heal what it is inside her that keeps her from being able to love properly and help her to work on her impulsive behaviors. She may be a narc, but shes still a human. We all are.
They do get their karma. They do get punished, I've seen it happen many times in many ways. Personally I don't care whether they change or not. It's not about them, As long as we have changed for the better who cares what happens to them? As long as we see justice happening, even if it is for a moment, it's OK. They can go on narking until they are blue. Who cares what eventually happens to people like that?
Yes, Yes, Yes. Totally agree with you. 💜💜
I have to admit that "I" do wish Karma on him.. . Not punishment exactly BUT for him to experience JUST what HE DID to me somehow - By either getting with a partner JUST like them OR at least reach a level of acknowledgement & remorse & understanding.. . Maybe even an apology?🤔
I thought that they would understand by feeling or living it themselves! I've learned impossible for Narcicists!🤣 But.. . I did have some hope.. . Once upon a time!🙃
Mine did he broke his shoulder in a fall coming here to see me in FL from TX and then he was going to visit his new supply right after he left here she also lives in FL. Was incapacitated for months.
Ugh I have to forgive them and just pray for them privately or when I feel negative energy I pray for that to go away and UA-cam is great for sharing so thx for the reminder
I just wish they'd get healthy.
Please don't stop posting, your helping me heal
Karma is the everlasting emptiness one gets for the half hearted. You can't feel someone else's pain. If you caused the pain, would you love to see them drown in misery? I take no pride in others pain and suffering. Karma speaks to everyone. When you point the finger, the finger may be pointing at you. Nothing begets violence, but violence. Same for aggression.
I don't want them to get punished or hurt. I wish they would at least try to understand the pain and confusion and how damaged that they leave us in. I wish that they would be self aware and get help so they can be TRULY Happy and the Best version of themselves that they can be. The world is FKD up enough without everyone playing tit for tat.
Sowing - All people
"Reap what they Sow"
That CANNOT be
stopped !!! ...
Good seeds bring
blessing...
Bad seed brings
hurtful circumstances
Oh Well - One gets
what they Sowed...
Get ready for your
"consequences"...
Look in the mirror and
blame ONLY who you
see...
The narc punishes us the entire relationship. So yes they need to be punished for as long as they betrayed us. But vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord and He will punish those who hurt the weak and the children of His kingdom. My narc spouse is a true fake Christian and his facade can’t fool me much less the Lord Almighty. This man doesn’t even know what the gospel is when you ask him. He hates when I speak about God. Now he’s got demons around him apparently visible and he’s scared. He can’t walk through the front door of this house without running right back out cuz he gets dizzy and nauseous. Vengeance is the Lord’s and He will punish the wicked for me.
I think people want them to feel what you feel. You hit the nail on the head. I don’t if that’s punishment or not, but I think that’s what everyone wants to see
Justice & balance. Fairness.
I agree that punishment and revenge aren't going to help anyone. I've known a few (with traits and the "typical" manipulative behaviors; but I've never known anyone who was officially diagnosed with NPD) who feel that boundaries are a type of punishment or revenge. That's a hard line to navigate, especially when I cannot tell with certainty which ones truly feel my boundaries that way vs those who are just putting on an act.
Great points !!
I one upped my ex NARC to the point he was in tears and threatened suicide. His career was on the line and prison. Even that did not change him!!! He went back to pointing fingers at others, gaslighting, all the same BS.
So do they get kamar? You didn't fully answer the question...
The narcissist gets karma when the end up with another narcissist and they are on the recieveing side of the abuse by a more advance narcissist. They usually bounce up those kinds
Everyone gets karma . The NARC’s karma is to DIE ALONE. In a lonely banana boat in the middle of the vast ocean with out Hope~ Prof Sam Vaknin said that.
They won’t get karma. My ex nar got an amazing life
Sorry but pathological narcs don't have a great life..😂consider all the Problems that they have with them self... They justact like everything is fine and wonderful with them and their life..thats just gas lighting of society😁
You don't know what is happening behind the closed doors. It may appera all hunky dory to you. But such people they carry themselves wherever they go. They won't be any different with the other person.
Yeah I don’t buy that. It may look good but it probably feels off.
All that glitters isn't gold when it comes to this lot of people. Everything is done for show. It is illusory. I have seen this many times, including with my estranged brother, who, btw, is a malignant narcissist. He got 3 divorces, his daughter and his son cut him off and now take their mother's last name, he's a 63 year-old alcoholic and cocaine addict, and he has no friends. Only acquaintances. Lastly, his good looks went down the toilette! Lol! 😆
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This is so true, things that happened to the narcissist that might humble the average person,like the death of his only child, only made him more evil and relish in all the sympathy that was shown to him. No change behavior just demonic and manipulative as always.
Yeah,that's typical. They don't truly cry either,but they enjoy putting on a show of everything.
Sometimes yes. Sometimes no.
My narcissist got krama and inside I was enjoying every moment. After 20+ years of marriage he was having a 6+ month affair. We were trying to work it out and keep our marriage when he had a prostate cancer scare. Thankfully he did not have any cancer but the 15+ biopsy samples taken from his prostate that day put me in full bliss. Payback for straying from the marriage.
I'm sorry to hear that. It is tough and takes a lot of effort to deal with that experience. Thank you for sharing. I wish you the best on your journey!
I thought I wanted him to be punished until I found out he was shot 3 times in the chest and killed by the cops last week. Now I'm filled with so much pain.🥺😭Lord help me.
In my view the be a narcissist is karma . This is already karmic for them for what they became instead of what they could have been and the fact that they cannot change this . The emptiness inside them is a lack no one wish to have and be this way for all their lives . I don’t . So if you want them to suffer for what they are doing , know that they are already in their soul . But they will get their own share in one way or another because the nature of life is balance . . Maybe we are the one paying for something we did in a past life to someone else ? But certainly a relationship who show our own trauma or our own lack of self value and where we need to work on ourselves. No one forced us to be in this type of relationship. We are responsable for our own life. Take it back . That’s your mission . That’s your karma . Peace .
U are absolutely right honey💜💜💜👍🏻
Yes I'm guilty of this
I know its wrong to think that way
So then when and how do the scales to get balanced??? How can they keep getting away with hurting people day in, day out? How do they get karma?
We all face consequences when we hurt another person on purpose.
The purpose of punishment is to show the narcissist what they did was harmful and also for them to experience some sort of emotional upset so they feel and understand our pain. So the question is What type punishment that will elicit an emotional response from the narcissist that will cause change in them ?
From what I experience don't ever seek revenge it only hurts you leave the matter to God he will Handel it better than you ever can! Move on to your new relationship, heal be happy. Don't tell the narcissist about your happiness, the less they know the better.
You happy hurts them the most. While maintaining no contact.
From what I have watched of all the videos
1) No contact;
2)Structured and cold responses, short and clear unwavering
3) Emotional Control -No response
4)Shaming them infront of others because image is everything, you hurt the image they show others and show ppl who they really are its painful
5) Criticism from others publicly
That's what I learn so far!!!
Yup!
Question do narcissist have defiant disorder or is that two different disorders? Thx
Proverbs 13:24
so violent guy doesnt get punishment because law is a lie, he should hide loc
KARMA COMES.
Misleading!
People with NPD are "dead shells " for life already.Their capacity to feel is limited between anger,envy and entitlement.
They are children who lived through abuse,but sold their authentic selves to fantasy in order to survive.
All they do,is just trying to relive and actually seperate from their "dead mother".But unseccsesfuly every time.
There is no revange or karma needed.
They are suffering constantly and will never have capasity to truly love
Not punishment...remorseful
So what does change them?
I don't think i wanted it to be punish but more like their lives represents the evil they are. They hurt everyone around them yet they thrive. Well at least my ex did.
God sees all and is not mocked as a man sews so he shall reap
I don't care if it changes anything.....cuz his actions put him in jail .......and he will go to prison bc of his history.....not mine ......he's dangerous so as long as Im safe I don't care
I dont even want karma. It would break my heart to see the ones I know hurt in any way or any kind of pain.
A truck will help
They definitely deserve it but not to be like them and not carry the hurt...we pray for them and walk away
Tbh I don't care if it doesn't change anything or only makes them conform. I would love nothing more than seeing them humiliated and having their lives ruined. I don't care about high minded ideals, I just want them to suffer for what they did to me.
The hard part is when you put yourself in that state, you rob your self from actual healing
@@RawMotivations I've heard it said that "letting go" is not the same as saying that what was done was ok, but that strikes me as an empty and vacuous platitude. If there's no consequence for the abusive actions, then I don't really see any meaningful difference between telling someone to "just let it go" and "go pound sand", only that the latter is less condescending.
SMH…😕
They will get their karma its a matt8of time
Still don’t get it
U feel the Narc gets karma , however u didn't speak on karma !
They have to live being a slave forever
@@RawMotivations shouldn't count ," they seem to enjoy it"!
@@RawMotivations wow. SO true. Slave to their own BS. Yup. Brilliant.
@@pattycannon6171 a alcoholic seems to love being drunk but it still destroys them their body and relationships. You can enjoy toxicity and still be a slave to it.