Why Optimus Didn't Revive Jazz
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- In this video we will be talking about, why Optimus Prime chose not to revive Jazz
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I preferred the idea of Megatron eating Jazz's spark whole from the literature. His ending in the movie seemed *halfhearted*
Bruh
Now I’m feeling a little creeped out I can imagine all the energon and blood falling off his mouth as soon as he eats jazz spark 😰
I actully like that idea too. It really makes him feel evil.
Ba dum tss
Comedy 100
Megatron eating sparks would show how more evil megatron in the movie is... I guess that's the theme of movie decepticons are killer alien metal monsters. And I think instruments of destruction music would fit them more since they're metal monsters killing lol
No it would have shown him to be an animal, something Megatron isn't.
having Megatron eat sparks doesn't make him more evil (at least in my opinion) i would rather have him crush an autobot in front of prime's eyes to prove how much we wants to hurt prime and what lengths he would go to torment his enemy.
@@mikathomo391 well he ain’t no animal but he is one heck of a beast in the 1st and 2nd movie
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Cannibalism among the transformers has always been reserved for the Sharkticons and Unicron.
I can’t believe Optimus and Bumblebee are the only ones left that’s sad Jazz Ironhide and Ratchet were all killed
😔
As a fun fact,they all were killed in the same order Optimus introduced them
@@busterwolf9528 really I never noticed that
Well you still got sideswipe and deino, in a removed part of the script for age of extinction, when the ship crashes it crashes where sideswipe and deino are hiding with a few other autobots who helped repair the ship but didn't wanna come on the ship, it was removed because there where issues with the government from where it was supposed to be recorded
@@nicholasgregory8658 Optimus Didn't Introduced Himself After Jazz
My original theory was that he wanted to let his oldest friend rest. Optimus saw an honorable death in combat as a far superior fate than being revived to live out the remainder of your life in war. Jazz and Optimus were friends before the war began and Optimus didn't Jazz to be condemned to war.
That makes sense
Orrrr maybe Michael bay just didn't want to put that in the script .
@@troycutter2534 That also makes sense
@Tom Arrow remember this is two years later. Even if two years is insignificant for a Cybertronian, a person can still fundamentally change for the worse in just one day.
@Tom Arrow your a decepticon 😐
I’d like to say jazz is a very iconic character despite how little he was utilized in the movie, people remember jazz as the cool, badass autobot with a smile on his face at all times,not scared of anything. And there are those who take his sacrifice as a damn joke, which is horribly presented based on how his character was handled in mission city. Jazz had the most potential out of every character in the movie series. I’d like to say, Rest In Peace jazz, you will always be my role model even if it was 14 years ago, I will always live to do everything with style or not at all 😔🙏🏾
Jazz was a badass, even in the videogames.
69 likes lol I love jazz
Dope ass Pontiac too helps alot
why black emoji?
@@guysupur2221 Why Not?
The idea that Optimus was willing to let Jazz stay dead out of respect for his sacrifice to Earth and the Autobots is honestly quite heartwarming - Prime, at the end of the day, is someone who understands when someone wishes to go out doing the right thing. The fact that Jazz stayed behind to weather the Decepticons while the Army and Autobots forced a tactical retreat to keep themselves alive and plan for a better attack is worthy of a heroic death, even if Megatron gave him a very painful one in the end.
I feel like Optimus doesn’t revive any of the dead Autobots is because he honors their sacrifice so reviving them would make their sacrifice completely pointless unlike the Decepticons who are basically expendable as shown in ROTF how they revive Megatron they’ll just rip each other apart to revive someone more important
You are right i didn’t because i wanted to honor them
@M488 Thunderbird uhm meeeeeeeee because I’m fabulous also Galactus might give a run for our money but he’s nowhere near my level
I see u everywhere wtf
@@matgrill9085 I have a lot of free time as a planet eating Sith Lord
@@Lord_Galvatron lol
Shortly after the first film came out, it was revealed that the studio had pressured Bay to use the Pontiac Solstice, which he considered puny. Giving the character - the car - a brutal and final death was Bay's way of responding to the studio's pressure.
That’s pretty hilarious.
Jazz was a hero he knew the consequences and decided to go out as a hero may he rest in peace 🕊️
Jazz 😔.
🕊🖤
*pieces
Man I still can't get over Jazz's death. His design and style was just so awesome....
he was rly similar to his g1 design but not Porsche 911 but Pontiac solstice and silver collor
Could u imagine if jazz's body was near the blast from the shard and we got a scene where he wakes up only to be killed again by megaton. That would have been brutal.
That would be kinda like the "such heroic nonsense" scene.
Jazz:hmmmm,okay if i can crawl to rachet i can-"spark exploding"..........goodbye,optimus.
I still haven't gone over Jazz's death. So this video gave me some form closure. Jazz is one my most favorite character in the franchise. I have the MPM Jazz and I love it even if it was a KO version. When I did broke him, I really try to fix him. I guess it show how much I love the character.
I never even noticed how different Optimus was in the 2007 film compared to the rest of the films, until I started watching more and more of your videos. I do love the idea that he chose not to bring Jazz back from death because that would just be messed up to bring him back to life after he just did an heroic act and was completely okay with dying for the safety of humanity. Thanks for making me realize how different Optimus is by the way... I still love the Bayverse Optimus but my ideas of him have changed greatly.
Rest in peace Jazz a brave hero will never been forgotten that save humanity to sacrifice himself
Rules of being resuracted:
1. Must be a leader
2.Must be bot that has more screen play
3.Must fan favaurite
4.Ask Optimus if he wants do it
Sure
Another reason (though not in-universe) is having a character with personality like Jazz would feel redundant because of the Twins and Prowl.
Do you mean Sideswipe??
@@capricornkiller Besides fighting style, Sideswipe is nothing like Jazz personality wise
@@hemiheke4920 i think they meant the random mention of prowl
Imo it felt unjustified and unearned to kill Jazz. He was just introduced and had barely a minute of screen time including his background. At least let him live one movie so we can get to know him. He had no character growth and less than ten lines...Keep in mind he was one of the most popular G1 characters. I don't like to think about the "Megatron eats Jazz's spark" thing that was in movie adaptations is strange. The fact you brought up that Jazz died of energon loss is tragic and I wish we would have gotten a scene of Jazz dying in Ironhide and Ratchet's arms. I wouldn't be crying🤧You would!
God I never truly realised how violent Jazz's death really was. Those parts flying off him gives me the chills.
At least give Jazz more of an honourable memorial by burying somewhere not in the sea but at a nice hill side with a nice view of earth but hey at least they shown respect by putting him in a coffin
Next theory idea: Do Transformers have infinite Ammo? (Ex. Ratchet simply pulling the charging handle of his gun to reload and then firing a bunch of bullets, bumblebee always being able to shoot no matter what)
Likely if they have enough energy, yes, throughout most transformers media they use energy based weapons like the Null Ray's and Megatron's Fusion Cannon. So if the transformer in question has the energon for it. They have infinite ammunition, I think the exceptions are weapons like Hound's since he Carrie's spare ammo and you can see shells dropping from his guns when he shoots them.
Maybe they can manufacture their own ammunition within themselves?
i've always thought that after this movie Prime realized there was no saving Megatron. (especially after he saw Jazz, amongst other things in the next movie) prime would then want to end Megatron once and for all. to protect the humans, and stop the war. the Autobots just wanted to chill, not fight for Eons, i really feel for them, even if they are just fictional
As much as I love the Bayverse, killing Jazz was one of the worst decisions.
same
Killed off one of the only characters that was similar to the original g1 designs
Sideways:am i a joke to you?
@@Whackshit Sideways only looked cool, we knew nothing about his character
I feel exactly the same.
I definitely agree that jazz was still alive once he got pulled apart, in transformers revenge of the fallen, jetfire sliced mixmaster in half with his axe and he was still functional until jetfire stomped his head off, Great video Trans!
Man I wish Jazz survived also Trans Theories did you know that Transformers Rise of Unicorn is happening but it's going to be made by fans 😎😎😎. It's coming out sometime in 2023 😁😁😁.
Yo what
In 2022
@@tonybolognahead1194 No that’s the release date for Transformers Rise of The Beasts not Rise of Unicron 👀👀.
I like to believe that after TLK with Jazz being in a coffin Prime went to recover his old friend and used the Matrix to give his spark energy but not to revive him but rather for a new bot to be born
If Jazz was still alive, he would've saved Ironhide from being killed by Sentinel.
I would like to see that ending in the movie’s
Yeah. Ironhide's death infuriated me. He deserved better
Yeah and cause water works
Sentinel dominated Optimus. I doubt jazz would be any kind of problem
No doubt, Jazz would likely be the one to bite the Rust if he lived through all the way to dotm.
“We lost a great comrade, but gained new ones.” -Optimus Prime 2007
So after he was torn in half he still alive to feel megatron trow him into a building!? poor jazz.😭
It was a real rip off 😏😔
@@mistylover7398 HAHAHA!!.....ya
@@mrBluesky1986 jazz : I tried to fight but he tore me apart 😏
I guess Prime dint revive Jazz with the shard because he probably thought that it was the only shard left in the whole universe, so he kept it just in case of an extreme emergency.
Hey Trans, I got a couple video ideas for u
More interesting ones:
- Wat if Lockdown survived?
- Wat if Sentinel Prime never joined the decepticons/ he survived but still sided with the decepticons?
- Wat if Jetfire survived?
Less interesting ones:
- Wat if Que/Wheeljack survived?
- Wat if Skids and Mudflap survived?
Random ideas I had in mind:
- Wat if Optimus Prime still have his trailer?
- Wat if Shockwave survived?
- Wat happened to Optimus Prime battle axe?
- Why did Bumblebee rarely use his shoulder cannon missiles?
Sorry if I asked too much, Im just a curious person
But I would love to see u do videos about the more interesting ones that I have just mentioned, ur the Transformers mastermind
And also, Jazz will be missed
Lockdown was only in toy form in rotf, he was never in the movie.
Yes he was lockdown was the reason ratchet died, have you seen the movies???
@@sillyman5796 I have seen the three canonical films, and lockdown was in none of them. He only had a figure in the rotf line and that was it for him. Also ratchet never died I the movies. He was still alive and well at the end of dotm.
@@s0uverains95 there are 5 canonical movies
@@s0uverains95 Did you watch age of extinction and the last knight?
We all loved Jazz's manner of speech and fighting style even though he was short lived in the franchise.........jazz🥺😢
I personally think his spark was already gone, and the reason why Megatron came back was because he's the strongest and the decepticons would go absurd lengths to revive megatron even Frankensteining him
so megatron eating Jazz's spark is basically the same as me walking up to you and biting you your ribs to eat your heart, jees
I always wondered what happened to the Xbox 360, Soda Machine and Steering Wheel decepticon/cybertronian's when Sam dropped the cube after the first film. It'd honestly be a cool theory.
I plan to do a vid on that
@@Theorymus I wonder if the Xbox 360 Cybertronian made it to Revenge of the Fallen. Honestly. Maybe there's a PS3 autobot lol.
Jokes aside Those three were awesome. Though we only see them in that one scene. I would think they were quickly eradicated by the autobots.
@@Theorymus If both shards contained the history of their race, wouldn't the shard used to revive Megatron also have the location of the matrix?
they are all killed after the human since they resemble animals more than civilized cybertronian and is dangerous for everyone including even the autobot, think of them as rabid apes and dogs. its shown in the comic.
@@Theorymus If you remember when the other Autobots (Optimus Prime, Jazz, Ironhide, and Ratchet)
came to earth and Jazz investigates a nearby Car Dealership there is a Silver Car right next to the Pontiac Solstice and if he scan the Silver Car (that was next to the Pontiac Solstice) he would have been a lot bigger and would been able to stop Megatron and survive and we would see him at the end of the film.
Dang now I really wish jazz stayed in the movies since now we know he could've came back, he was a dope character
The problem with the autobots who appeared in the first 3 movies , is that even if non of them get killed they would've probably have been all killed in AOE by semetery wind anyway , since the movie creators wanted to do somewhat of a reboot and bring in new bots while keeping bee and Prime
I think Jazz dying was apart of the emotional method used in movies in where someone close to the main character but not the main character is killed in order to play on audience emotions. This death typically create a sense of urgency and importance for the mission at hand or to summarize the sacrifice the heroes are willing to make. There was no intention of bringing the heroes back because of this logic. I think as fans we want a more elaborate reasoning that fits into the transformers ethos and script but in reality it's just Hollywood.
Haven’t watched vid yet, my theory is that Jazz has been through war, and prime didn’t want to revive jazz just so he could live through war AGAIN. The reason why the revived sentinel and optimus prime is because they needed a leader, jazz wasn’t a leader, so they let his spark rest.
I wish they didn't revive Sentinel. He literaly killed Ironhide in the most cowardely way possible: by shooting him in the back. He, a Prime, was afraid to face a regular soldier like Ironhide. He wasn't a leader, he was a coward.
@@ladyazari2785 Ironhide was one of the most experienced and strongest Autobots, at least in the Bayverse Transformers movies. I don't think that it would've been that easy for Sentinel to kill him. On the other hand, this sudden betrayal was cinematographical stronger than any open battle would have been. It's sad because Ironhide is one of my favorite Transformers. But based on the writing it was one of the stronger decisions. Even though, generally speaking, I think its most of the time weak to simply kill Autobots to make us feel one thing-> sadness. I think they could've found other ways to make us sympathise with the Transformers more.
To Sentinel's "revival" he wasn't dead, he was in a comatose state. Watch the scene where they go to the moon to get Sentinel back. He wasn't dead at that point, rather in a "sleep-mode" because of low energon reserves like Jetfire was in Transformers 2. Optimus on the other hand was revived with the Matrix, so it sure would work to revive Jazz. I think it would've been too much of a plot problem if they could simply revive EVERY Autobot who died. That's why they didn't bring Jazz back.
@@gordyrroy This doesn't make me feel any better. And I still hate Sentinel!
@@ladyazari2785 Also he killed the twins during his destruction in the Nest Base
@@Imanaliyev34 And he didn't kill them in a merciful way. That was even worse.
If jazz was still alive he may have fought the fallen by himself too😂
Soundwave: how many cakes you want lord megatron?
Megs:….. I WANT TWO
Sound familiar
Jazz was amazing I liked when he jumped on brawl
Jazz : I'm not touching you I'm not touching you I'm not touching you.
@@mistylover7398 Jazz:(in vehicle mode) Speeds to Brawl.
Also Jazz:(transforms and leaps onto Brawl) COME ON DECEPTICON PUNK.
@@broderick6633 lol
Probably because his body was only in half good condition
T.R.F. the transformers reaction force?
For some reason Jazz was my favorite character in the bay verse films. So, for him to be the first one to die in the bay verse films really hit me hard.
Hopefully we'll se Jazz again in Transformers: Rise of the Beasts.
Yeah
Michael Bay doesn't like black acting Autobots!!!
@@jabarijones7871 micheal bay dosen't make the decisions anymore hes a producer for the movie not director
Theory: the alkspark shard would still revive him but the Energon loss.
@Dog Man_YT true but I think age of Extinction Energon is basically like the liquid version of transform and I mean like a Transformers blood which Energon powers a Transformer and and its ship but in the TV shows they say that
Thank you so much for making us learn about the Transformers Cinematic Universe
Happy to help
Yeah when i watch the movie in theaters i heard my sister crying in full tears that her favorite character jazz died an for me i just kept cheering for Megatron seeing him split Jazz into 2 pieces was hilarious
I love that you mention the movie tie-in comics, the comics are amazing and it really ties up some loose ends left from the movies
jazz was one of my top favorite, small but strong. Very smart and likes fighting bigger people
I think that that would probably be the best explanation. It kinda gives the dynamic between the Autobots and the Decepticons with the Autobots respecting their fallen soldiers, while the Decepticons just don't care. It also adds some more story to Prime, since Jazz was Primes luitenetent and close ally.
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As optimus said when bumblebee was captured by sector 7, jazz had asked optimus about bumblebees fate and optimus had said that he would honor his comrades death in vain, so optimus would honor jazz's death because if it wasn't for jazz's sacrifice the autobots wouldn't of won the battle at mission city
There's nothing better than a trans theories video on a sunday evening
True
It’s almost as good as heating up a corn dog on a Thursday afternoon
Optimus prime seeing jazz alive after being ripped in half would creep him out also love your videos keep them up
Another great video Trans really wished Jazz was able to get revived but it’s all good he will never be forgotten 🙌🏼
Also new video idea when the time is right 4:51 what happened to the symbols in Sams head after ROTF it’s something that has had me wondering as a kid growing up watching these series
The symbols were a map to the matrix so when he found the matrix they would leave his mind since there is no need for them anymore
I believe Magatron ate his spark as he was low on energon. It was minutes before Optimus showed up after Jazz was ripped in half, so off screen, Megatron would have had time to do that.
As for the cube shard being able to revive him, it'd have needed a spark to do so. The Decepticons used EVERYTHING from Scrapper, including his spark to be able to revive Megatron. This is also seen with Optimus after the Forest battle. His spark was completely destroyed from Megatron's sneak attack, and his revival was the Matrix acting as a spark. That explains why when it was forcefully removed, Optimus was struggling. He was literally shutting down as there was not enough energon left to sustain him, and Jetfire's spark was used as a replacement while he was being repaired and upgraded with the old bot's parts.
With all that in mind, I don't think it would have been possible to revive Jazz even if they wanted to.
No, the matrix was not acting as the spark, the matrix is the only thing that can revive a transformer's spark. Optomus can indeed survive without the matrix of leadership
I was literally just thinking about why, thank you for answering
Anytime
I like to think that when optimus suggested reviving him the other auto bots were just like “nah screw that guy”
You bring up a good morality point. But optimus could've revived jazz and then gave him a choice to serve or to retire
There's this question "Why did they kill off Jazz?" He was the best character in the first Transformers movie. I would've love to see him in Transformers 2 and 3.
Ah yes, love getting that post notification for a new theory. Love ya man!
Thx
6:48 even if he was revived with the decepticons, they would gang up on him and killed him lol
Because Micheal Bay doesn’t like having good characters.
Tell me your mr.bean
Michael Bay doesn't like black acting Autobots!!!
He was one of my favorite autobots.
Well... he was ripped in half... and he was long dead before prime got the Matrix... do yeah... Jazz was dead ever since Megs ripped him in half...
Darth maul : so did I and I got up still 🤨
The real reason is because the filmmakers, Michael Bay especially, didn't think to do it, or at least if they did still didn't care to go through with it. This is the same series that already forgot about Barricade's entire existence for ROTF and somehow returned without explanation in TLK after all. Realistically, he should've been revived by the end of ROTF or the start of DOTM, which is exactly why stuff like him being in the tie in game in the former and even an exclusive toy for the latter came up. Literally everyone agreed that he should've came back except the filmmakers themselves. In no logical scenario is leaving him dead when he is second in command only to Optimus a good idea, especially when it would be relatively easy to do. Also, if you really want to be pessimistic about it, Sideswipe is basically his direct replacement, who also disappeared without any real explanation. (Him dying to Lockdown is a theory in of itself) I'd even go as far to say that the films would've had an extra layer if Jazz came back and saw his other friends dying, (Ironhide and Ratchet especially) but Michael Bay couldn't write a good let alone consistent story even if his life depended on it... EDIT: Another thing I just thought of is that even if he was considered for DOTM, he probably wouldn't have came back for that one anyways because of negative stereotype backlash after Mudflap and Skids. (I don't agree with that since Jazz is much more tame in comparison, but that's another factor) So really, ROTF was his only real shot, and knowing that absolutely incompetent for that film, (More than the others until TLK which is saying something) he was destined to be screwed.
the reason why Optimus Didn't Revive Jazz cause jazz got some damage on him and plus to me i don't think they have more parts or wires to repar him. thats my opinion
Sooo injury too great?
The reason why I think he didn't revive Jazz is because Optimus knew that Jazz could finally rest from the war, But Ratchet died the worst way possible and Optimus wanted to revive him but knew it was to late.
love the content keep up the good work
I do agree with the fact that Optimus having higher morals in the first movie than the sequels. But I also believe that there was fear in the fact that the all spark, a object that can give life killed Megatron. Right in front of them due to the amount of energy stored within it. It could be said that even if Optimus was willing to go through with the revival, the act could just destroy his remains, desecrating the body of Jazz. This unsurtenty could have also easily swayed Optimus's hand.
R.I.P. Jazz, one of the autobot's greatest heroes, you will be missed.
I’m glad they didn’t show megatron eating jazz’s spark in the movie but now I know why he couldn’t revive jazz back keep up the good work
Rest In Peice Jazz
Hes dead but still alive in our hearts
Everything about Jazz’s death has always been funny to me, from the way he dies getting ripped in half with a pun to the way that he gets handed to Optimus and he takes a half in each and and kinda just goes “ah, rats, what a shame, oh well”
Wtf?
@@Blasian_guy AM I WORNG!???? He literally gets handed his two halves and half heartedly says “ah, jazz” 😕 like wtf man that’s hilarious
I watch Transfomers (2007) so many times on HBO Max
Man I just want to see a movie or show where jazz and cliff jumper are alive and well. We got to see this in the fall of cybertron game and I loved it. I also wished that cliff would actually be in transformers prime for more than 1 episode. Was deeply sad when he didn't even make past the first.
I like this theory ^^ it’s nice that you can admit when there’s something proven to be technically impossible and give more character building reasons for it. I absolutely love bayverse optimus truth be told even if he can be a bit dumb and this makes him more interesting
Happy to help 🤟
All the autobots that were killed in every movie made their own sacrifices to becoming a autobot hero like jazz, Jetfire,chromia,arcee,elita , jolt, and many more autobots .
i miss jazz 😔
I love the G1 reference at the start as always R.I.P Jazz.
The real reason why Jazz wasn’t revived.
Micheal Bay didn’t think of it.
Thanks for clearing this up, I remember requesting for this theory back in 2018 or something and now I got it
Happy to help
Will you do your OWN theory of what happened to sam and HOW he's STILL alive?
Maybe
@@Theorymus 1 more thing, do you think sswp, dno, jlt, skds, and mdflp, rdbstr, and sam ARE still ALIVE
@@Theorymus did you get my messages?
I honestly saw that they tried the replace Jazz with Sideswipe because out of all the other auto bots he had some of the “most” screen time but come on a silver speedy sports car the similarities are uncanny
Getting down to basics, Jazz was torn in half at the joint between his torso and legs, not a critical point. His spark and processor are both intact at this point. No reason for him to be dead. Energon loss cannot be compared to blood loss in humans, machines work different than biologicals, plus, alien machines.
Man Jazz was the Transformer I had before I even saw the movie so I was devastated. Thanks for this.
Rest in peace jazz you'll be missed 😓
How twisted would it be if the deceptions revived Jazz in ROTF to serve as an inside man?
On his g1 colored toy bio it was said that he got revived by ratchet and chose a new paint job because the silver cracked too easily
But that isn’t canon
This makes.... Sence. I always wondered why, and at last I finally get an answer. It is reasonable response, and I respect it
Now I know why prime didn’t revive jazz
Thanks for the heart
To be honest you are the best transformer UA-camr in the entire world you are the one that brought me back to the transformers trilogy one day you become a director
Optimus when ratchet dies: THEY KILLED RATCHET! (Kicks something down can’t remember what it was)
Optimus when jazz dies: aw jazz. Actually you know what we have gained new allies who gives a krap
😆
That was the best video Trans Theories. i would cry to see Jazz,Iron hide and Rachet die in the movies!
Ironhide is much important as jazz even he's rusted he also deserves to be alive!💯
Idk why but I when I was little I always thought dotm Soundwave was an evil version of jazz
Megatron eating jazz’s spark should’ve been in the movie, it would’ve had him stand out from other versions of Megatron.
I think another reason is Jazz was a Pontiac solstice, a company that died a few years after the movies release, the others seems to stick to the same type of model or brand majority of the time, can't have a new Jazz without a new Pontiac.
The channel name being trans theory is sending me
This is a really good theory, man! Keep up the great work!