Big Doctor Who Poll - Tom Baker Years

[@TravellingTARDIS]

*Horns Of Nimon at #41?* Aight, ima head out.

[@JoshSnares]

SAME

[@klisher]

@@JoshSnares SAME.. LORD NIMON!!

[@hi-viz]

How the hell did Creature From the Pit get higher than Nimon?

[@AJDHelix]

@@hi-viz Lady Adrasta and Geoffrey Bayldon.

[@MichaelHickerson]

@@hi-viz The scene with Tom Baker and the protrusion?

[@olijeako4139]

I just realised that a vast majority of the top ten are Hinchcliffe era stories. Just goes to show how epic and influential his era was.

[@veteran0121]

Or how overrated his era was.

[@sampletext8229]

My faves are sers 17 mainly Douglas Adams Shada

[@claudiotamburri9977]

@@veteran0121 naw you’re
thinking of the Moffat era

[@hothemeep1219]

@@claudiotamburri9977 nah you're thinking of the RTD era

[@FeralWarmonger]

It's Doctor Who: Scarf Edition.

[@ShamrockParticle]

Arresting, isn't it? :D

[@julieeverett7442]

the greatest of them all ,in all his glory, but then even the great one can have an off day or two!!

[@Timelord007]

For me Talons & Seeds Of Doom are my favourite Fourth Doctor Tv Adventures, I adore Tom Baker his Big Finish audios are amazing he slips back into the role effortlessly like he never left.

[@TheElderBlotch]

The Hinchcliffe and Holmes collaboration gave way to a golden era of the show, rivalled only by Letts and Dicks in my opinion. As for my own Top Ten, it's nothing special but full of Hinchcliffes, since I'm a sucker for Gothic horror-
1: The Talons Of Weng-Chiang
2: Pyramids Of Mars
3: The Seeds Of Doom
4: Genesis Of The Daleks
5: The Robots Of Death
6: The Ark In Space
7: The Deadly Assassin
8: Horror Of Fang Rock
9: City Of Death
10: Terror Of The Zygons
Like I said, a predictable list but the highest 4 are in my Top Ten DW eps of all time, Baker is a legend, and it's those three earliest seasons of him, where his performance is brilliantly brooding yet alien and maniacal, that are just riveting television and absolutely iconic.

[@julieeverett7442]

I'd take out horror of fang rock, and put in image of the fendahl. but great list!

[@jasondancaster3296]

Thoroughly agree with your observations and your top 5 is bang on target. I'd exchange 'Deadly Assassin' and 'City of Death' (just don't like that one, annoying and completely over-rated imo) with 'The Brain of Morbius' and 'Hand of Fear' - 'The Sunmakers' and 'Stones of Blood' and 'Planet of Evil' making a perfect 13.

[@SegaNintendoGuy64]

I said it once before and once again I will say it, I still think Revenge of the Cybermen isn’t that bad.

[@nigelbrown8319]

Revenge is top 10 for me and Harry Sullivan is Awesome!

[@THIRV]

Me too mate. It’s my 3rd fav of the entire show, behind Talons and Genesis (Tom has six stories in my top ten). I kinda hear people’s criticisms about Revenge, but I just love the script, and the look of the story on screen.

[@geekdetritus5503]

I honestly think its criticism comes from the era that it's in. If you compare it to later 4th Doctor stories (or some of the 80's Who) it is very good, but when you put it in the same season as Ark in Space, and sandwich it between Genesis of the Daleks, and Terror of the Zygons, it does seem to stick out as being not as good, as those.
Much like the 2nd Doctor era, not having all that many bad episodes, so while there are episodes that are not as good during his run, many of his lesser episodes are still better than (I hate to do it, but it is true) a lot of the 6th Doctors run. (I do love Colin Baker, but he did seem to have a lot of dull episodes.... including the one with the 2nd)

[@hothemeep1219]

@@geekdetritus5503 nah mate, Revenge is one of the worst cyberman story ever. Even if it was in season 24, it would have been considered bad

[@RiainRamblez]

Saying Destiny of the Daleks didn't have budget for repairs is like sayin the Davros mask didn't fit. It's obvious by looking at it.

[@dubliam8064]

Let me guess one is Genesis or City of Death

[@candicedouglas9873]

Not surprised at all with the top 10. Seriously some of the best stories in Baker's reign as the Doctor and some of my personal favourites. Philip Hinchcliffe certainly left his mark as one of the series best producers.

[@blackwoodrichmore4531]

I say, would you care for a jellybaby?!.

[@philrobinson3441]

Can’t believe androids of Tara is so well up the list considering it’s like wallpaper paste compared to some listed lower but some tastes differ over time.loved some of the rare shots even I haven’t seen often

[@custard_timelord2896]

That opening gets me every time 😂😂

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

Gotta admit tho, K9 on a Mission is one of the series’ best pieces of music.

[@AJDHelix]

*Shows picture of Erato from Creature from the pit
UA-cam: Age-Restricted Video

[@vincinel114]

Understandable.

[@DalamReviews]

They were planning to kill Sarah Jane?!?! :0 That would NOT have been okay!

[@TheZodiacz]

and the Brigadier!

[@mrjekyllandhyde9941]

@@TheZodiacz they also palnned to kill the Brig in "Battlefield" 7th doctor story but that didn't happen either

[@shortangel333]

I honestly live for these, waiting each week with anticipation, keep going, it's great.

[@Kytori95]

..."Wouldn't be a good send off for his character"
AND TURNING HIM INTO A BLOODY CYBERMAN IS!?!?!?

[@geekdetritus5503]

Just realized, while watching this, that today marks the third anniversary of me watching Horror at Fang Rock. I didnt plan it that way, it just ended up being a great episode for Halloween

[@klisher]

i wish i had thought of that.. maybe next year.

[@dalcon555]

Honestly I'm really here to see that fabulous Joshua Snares intro

[@cameronrhodes604]

Those actions Josh makes when introducing himself are as hilarious as they were in the last video. Great video mate

[@mekonta]

_"You say Erayto, we say Erato, let's call the whole thing off!"_

[@SegaNintendoGuy64]

At first I thought Pyramids of Mars ‘my personal favourite’ wasn’t going to be on the list, But that prove me wrong, Glad it’s on the Top 3, Also Genesis of the Daleks At #1, Very Predictable.

[@SegaNintendoGuy64]

stephen noonan Was that the quote from The Deadly Assassin?

[@SegaNintendoGuy64]

stephen noonan I know.

[@Percyfan1998]

It would’ve been on the list regardless :D. This is for ALL of his stories, albeit I’m not sure if you meant to say on the top 5.

[@APEABOUTSIMS]

So glad Horror of Fang Rock and Stones of Blood are so high, such good serials that I feel we’re overshadowed.
No bad costumes, no bad acting. Stones of Blood had a great mystery behind it, and was such an adventure The small english countryside was such a eerie feeling, and the sets were actually really good and didn’t feel cheap.
I grew up watching Doctor Who on ABC during the early 00’s in Australia and Stones of Blood always stuck with me as a gripping episode ugh. Wish Modern Who could have a good episode where there’s more than one threat and layers as the story unfolds.
I’m babbling 😂

[@darrentodd2698]

I love all your stuff .
Its so refreshing seeing someone from the younger generation interested in old-school Doctor who.
You get props over here!!!

[@velahtielredfang9417]

Doctor Who was pretty big here in Australia. I recently just turned 20 and I have been a Classic Who fan for as long as I can remember. I have all 7 Classic Doctor episodes (Including the picture missing ones of the 1st and 2nd Doctor era) downloaded and like to watch them in my free time.

[@darrentodd2698]

@@velahtielredfang9417 props to you also im in Adelaide old school who is the best!

[@JoeSiegler]

Also, Josh, is it bad that I wish more episodes would go missing, so we could get another of your videos on missing episodes? Those were bloody brilliant!

[@IsaacWhittakerDakin]

I'd have put The Invasion of Time at the bottom, Underworld may have bad CSO but at least its mercifully short! My personal favourite is The Talons of Weng Chiang, but The Sunmakers at 30? That decision is everything wrong with this fandom! 😂

[@TheZodiacz]

I was surprised Sunmakers was so low too. Maybe a lot of tax auditors entered the poll? I predicted Underworld being last but thought Invasion of Time would be second bottom. Power of Kroll should have been a little higher- first Dr Who I ever saw so I have a soft spot for that one.

[@IsaacWhittakerDakin]

@@TheZodiacz I have a soft spot for Horns of Nimon so seeing it second from bottom hurts me as well! 😥

[@Jasonm25870]

Sun Makers should have at least been in the top 20

[@IsaacWhittakerDakin]

@@Jasonm25870 agreed! I'd take it over Robot and The Pirate Planet

[@vincinel114]

@@IsaacWhittakerDakin Same.

[@Cyber_Smoke]

One thing these polls show me is that some fans might love certain stories whilst others might love the stories the other fans hated.

[@CineScarborough]

Genesis of the Daleks definitely had to be number one here. I would have been shocked if it had been anything else.

[@TheZodiacz]

I thought it was going to be 1. City of Death, 2. Genesis of the Daleks, 3. Pyramids of Mars, 4. Weng-Chiang. So close to getting it right. Never underestimate Davros!

[@mythme01]

Weng-Chiang went by so fast I missed it the first time around. Surely there's a little more to say about this one!

[@nigelbrown8319]

Number 1 all day long!!

[@immoralq]

Again, the top 10 were all my favourites! Co-incidence? Or does everyone who entered the poll just have supremely good taste? Can't wait for the Peter Davison years!

[@lashed34]

Pretty much as I voted. Seeds of Doom deserves a slightly higher spot for me because it's such a great 2 & 4 part story.

[@blackwoodrichmore4531]

So... of all the classic series Doctors, did the 4th Doctor have the longest & mightiest pole of all?! 💈 🏆 🗼 🎣

[@julieeverett7442]

heheheheheheheheheeeee!Very good, and yes!

[@vincinel114]

Me before looking at the list:
*Time for the end of the world.*

[@velahtielredfang9417]

Ya'll got the fandom in 2 over a war between either 4th's original scarf or his late series scarf.
I be sittin' here enjoying my Terror of the Zygon's scarf.

[@andrewf1145]

Gensis of the Daleks; once again taking it's rightful place as the *SUPREME POWER OF THE UNIVEEERRRRRSE!*

[@ShamrockParticle]

Soldeed said it better 🤪

[@SwiftTrick1]

Pirate Planet is a lot higher than I was expecting, given what some fans have said about it. Could not agree more with the top 6 and it could only be Genesis at #1. No competition. You seemed to be in an awful rush on Talons of Weng-Chiang 😂

[@michaelsegal7443]

I didn’t know Robert Hones wanted to leave after the deadly assassin. Wonder what changed his mind

[@kimba4962]

The Dalek Master Plan is at first place AGAIN? This is seriously getting out of hand!

[@JoshSnares]

It’s just THAT good!

[@vincinel114]

@@JoshSnares I bet it's gonna be first place on the next one too!

[@THIRV]

Thanks Josh, you really are the ONLY person doing something which is truly keeping the show alive and vibrant. Your presentation skills are world class.

[@dubliam8064]

Just realised 41, 42 and the last place in The Pertwee poll are apart of the same boxset.

[@JinzoCrash]

The Ark in Space was pretty good.

[@Gallifrey1991]

Some of these are in the wrong position for me but it’s a fair ranking overall 😍😍

[@carealoo744]

Why am I not getting notified of these?!

[@Joshml98]

Ok so not watched yet but I want to make a prediction that alot of later stories will be in the low end of the scale while his older stories take higher positions.

[@hothemeep1219]

Indeed, his earlier seasons tend to be overrated

[@tayloredwards7441]

Come on, Androids. Come on! You can make it into the top 20!....YES.
What, I'm not nerdy? ;) Largely I agree with this. I was proud of how Graham Williams era stood up to Hinchcliffe.
My top 5 Tom Baker DW stories? In no order:
City of Death
Face of Evil
Deadly Assassin
Androids of Tara
Stones of Blood

[@apilgrim8715]

I liked Face of Evil and Keeper of Traken more than most.

[@marionbaggins]

I am calling it...The Best 5th Episode will be The Caves of Androzani!!! What else will it be?!!!

[@christopheralthouse6378]

It HAS to be! That story is regarded as one of the TRUE GREATS of Classic Who...if not the show's BEST serial! 😁
While 5th Doctor haters do exist (sadly), it isn't even for his departure that it rates so highly...this is the ONE and ONLY story where Peter Davidson gets to take center stage and truly BE The Doctor...and it shows that when given the chance, he goes from strength to strength! There's nothing really uncharacteristic about his Doctor, he's still played as vulnerable and not-always-certain, however, he is faced with impossible stakes in a situation where there is NO right answer to the central problem at hand, everyone is against him...hell, the closest thing he has to an ally is Sharez Jek and he's considered the main villian! The only thing The Doctor can do is save Peri...and even as it becomes more and more obvious that he himself won't make it, he stops at NOTHING to achieve this one and only goal.
Suitably bleak and amazingly epic, "The Caves of Androzani" simply CANNOT take any spot other than No. 1...👏👏👏👏😍😍😍😍😁😁😁😁

[@TimothySamJolly]

“The quest is the quest....” Name a better quote, I’ll wait ;)
Great stuff as always!

[@klisher]

"nuzing in the ze vurld can stop me now!!" underwater menace.

[@TheKandyman]

Seeds of doom is my favourite

[@nigelbrown8319]

Golden era Dr.Who and excellent "Bad Guy" in that one!

[@nigelbrown8319]

Candy man being top 5 villians also 😉

[@TheKandyman]

Yeah Harrison chase has to be top 20 villain material, glad I'm not the only one who loves the Kandyman

[@nigelbrown8319]

@@TheKandyman I watched it and video recorded it when it first came on . Was it late 88 or 89?
Re visiting it in dvd 3 times now, Candyman has not lost his charm lol if thats the word!?
I Wont even lie . I was 12 at the time and he scared the crap outta me "GILBERT"
LOVE IT!!! 😉🍭

[@nigelbrown8319]

@@TheKandyman Harrison chase is a total class act too! Golden era Who that one!

[@verdiguy]

Pyramids of Mars and Talons of Weng-Chiang, especially for Jago and Litefoot are my two favourites from this era but Michael Wisher and Peter Miles in Genesis of the Daleks are quite possibly the finest performances of the Baker years. Another fair assessment of Tom's years.

[@derJOgelle]

Ah, yes! I looove how high up the Hinchliffe/Holmes era is!

[@ireallydidntwanttomakeanac575]

Man, are we really this predictable?

[@ShamrockParticle]

The 60s console room was pared down because it was too large. By Mandragora, the sardine tin size set that had been around since 1971 is mow replaced by something smaller. But a year or two later they'd return to the larger sardine tin size with new and better looking walls but getting the doors back from the rubbish tip just in time :)

[@Ozzymayhem4]

Underworld dead last? It's not a great story, but certainly not the worst, The Leisure Hive takes that spot for me, it's so goddamn boring!

[@kimba4962]

The Leisure Hive is one of the best (well, a second-stringer at least).
My pick for the worst one is Invisible Enemy followed by Nightmare in Eden.

[@ShamrockParticle]

Meow! It's easy to see why some like the story bit others don't. Neither side is wrong.

[@rassilontdavros3004]

Of the ones I’ve seen, which is probably 70% or so, I’d put “Invasion of Time” dead last.

[@eleventythree]

WTF Horns of Nimon is GREAT these people are WRONG.

[@finnsempire5671]

I Think That When Matthew Saw Lalla Her Hair Was So Long.

[@marshallhuffer4713]

11:57 - while that spin-off never happened onscreen, Big Finish would end up doing a Jago & Lightfoot spin-off series years later.

[@retrodude1131]

Good to see Logopolis rated higher than usual - that story has really grown on me since the Season 18 Blu-Ray boxset came out. But honestly, I don't really agree with how low some of the Williams' era stories are rated. I get a kick out of a lot of them, even if some are more humurous than others. Maybe I'm just not that big of a Hinchcliffe era fan, since I prefer pure sci-fi stories to gothic horror stories.

[@daryljoyce1211]

Personally I'd never have The Ribos Operation languishing at no.25 - It has a great setting and it has all the hallmarks of Robert Holmes at his best: great characters, great dialogue, and an amusing and interesting plot. It is everything Doctor Who should be. It would make my top ten of the Tom Baker years every time.

[@horaciosi]

Fourth Doctor: Guys, I can explain.
Sixth Doctor: You've got 7 seasons?! I only had 2!
Ninth Doctor: 2? I only ever had 1 season!
I'm the shortest-running Doctor!
Eighth Doctor: You guys have seasons?

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Pyramids of Mars is my number one.

[@Joey15811]

I honestly don’t agree with a lot of this list. Slot of the under rated and overlooked ones are below literally unwatchable ones and dullier ones. While I find City average I know that one is extremely popular but I literally don’t know a single person who rated Leisure Hive

[@shortangel333]

Episode 1's cliffhanger, need I say more?

[@kimba4962]

Yeah, you undersell Leisure Hive's popularity.

[@Joey15811]

Kimba I really don’t. I never see any love for the story

[@kimba4962]

Well, you see here.

[@capmodesty]

As soon as I clicked the video I thought City of Death or Genesis of the Daleks should be top, good to see I'm not alone in that

[@tomgriffiths2622]

Doesn't Tom still own the show?
Top 3 are correct

[@DoktorSean]

I think I'd give Terror of the Zygons the top spot. I still can't get over how good the Zygon costumes are, and the atmosphere is phenomenal. What an absolute TREAT. Favourite monsters to this day.
And indeed, my memories of Underworld are it being boring and looking godawful.

[@XanderWhovian]

usually, i'd vastly disagree on the idea that killing off a character would upset younger viewers, but in this case, i'd make an exception, because killing off sarah jane would have robbed us of her future in K9 and Company, the five doctors, those big finish audios, 21st century who, and the sarah jane adventures.

[@Akito01]

As a child with a great pre-pubescent crush on Sarah Jane, I would have been very upset indeed if they'd killed her off!

[@Morphstock]

5:11 - I doubt that's true of Ian Marter , he wasn't part of the UNIT period as such and had only left a few months before.

[@strataseeker2981]

Awww, Poor Underworld. So sad to see it at the bottom, as I have a particular soft spot for that one.

[@darthknight1]

Well done, Josh Snares!

[@MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio]

Cool video! I agree largely with the ordering of the episodes. However... hint: not every photo you use has to move. The up and down motion of the photos made me seasick by the end.

[@PipsyProductions]

11:29 and that showed the character options fans going on about how the krynoid was just a repaint

[@davidbarry9690]

Thought genises would be no 1 my fave was android invasion very atmostheric

[@pjgathergood6987]

'The Talons of Weng-Chiang', my personal Fourth Doctor favourite story (in fact, possibly my favourite Who story ever) comes in at #4 and I'm happy with that. In fact, I'm happy with the whole Top 10 (actually, 11 onwards), some of Who's best ever stories and my personal favourites.
A little surprised that 'The Creature from the Pit' comes in at #38 and not bottom considering some of the flack it's got over the years but hey, I'm fine with that. :)

[@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN]

6:12. Did he write the space pirates and the talons of weng-Chiang?

[@TheZodiacz]

Yes, well he had to do something to make up for the space pirates

[@custard_timelord2896]

Genesis is good and all, but am I the only one who goes 'ugh' whenever it wins stuff (I.e. all the time) 🤔 and I cant believe how low Sontaran experiment was!!!

[@APEABOUTSIMS]

Custard_Timelord I think because people rate it due to the moral complex, that redefined the show in a lot of ways. It’s still there in New Who today.

[@CineScarborough]

The Sontaran Experiment is pretty dull IMO.

[@immoralq]

I think it deserved a place in the top 10, and it is one of my favourite stories, but I agree its a bit overrated. If I was doing this as a personal ranking, I would probably have put City of Death, Pyramids of Mars, or even Terror of the Zygons in the top spot.

[@bananasaregood8655]

i would happily watch meglos over the leisure hive, keeper of traken and logopolis. those 3 stories are so DULL!

[@danielcox3152]

Great video. I was a bit confused about your pronunciation of "Erato" at first ;)

[@srothbardt]

Finished "Shada" is my fave.

[@davidbanan.]

lets be honest, Seeds of doom is one of if... THIS WAS 2 YEARS AGO?! What daphaq, anyway, one of the creepiest stories in the series

[@SpectrumStorms]

Why is Sun Makers so low? Should be in the top 15, if not top 10.

[@Yetaxa]

Easy top ten
One of holmes's best

[@lesigh1749]

They should have just filmed underworld in Wookey Hole. Free caves, ready made.

[@DTM-Books]

Horns of Nimon should be waaaay higher on this list. It’s great fun, the villain is so wonderfully over the top, and did anyone else notice that the fourth episode looks just loke Quake? ID totally stole the design from Dr. Who.

[@lexezlao]

the android invasion not being a good send-off to unit dissappoints me

[@fatcat8033]

Strange , I always thought the victorian Tardis set was way bigger and would have taken up more studio space ...

[@AubreySciFi]

The console was so tiny it made the rest of the room look bigger!

[@Greg_94]

Josh I really bloody enjoy your videos it must be said. Will we get a full “ranking” of all the stories after you’ve finished releasing the videos?

[@JoshSnares]

Yes! It’ll be released after we’ve gone through each doctor :)

[@JD-wg5oq]

Meglos at #39? That is so wrong

[@petemarr824]

Absolutely loved that :) Brilliant!

[@DialHForHorror]

I watched ALL of these between 1979 and 1981 when they came to America. I was 13-15 at the time. Frankly, there were no true misses in these 7 seasons, only some episodes were poorly planned, lamely scripted, and rarely--badly acted. Tom Baker's run had a wide variety of great premises and lively design. I agree with the bottom of this list more than the top, but they are difficult to pick from. His first 4 seasons were close to perfect, his last three were vacillating between great episodes and boring/campy ones. The one I always found disappointing to rewatch was indeed UNDERWORLD; all the worst elements came into play during that show, combining to make a truly lackluster (but not bad) Doctor Who serial. Earlier Who wasn't as good, later Who became more campy or distrait. If you had lived through the late-70s and early-80s of American TV, you would understand why Doctor Who became a titanic underground cult in the USA. I still look back at the Baker era and think it is better than most all TV made since.

[@shushpuppai]

Aw, the little Keeper of Traken that could :- )

[@kaimacdonald1041]

I am doing the vote while I am watching the 4th doctor on brit box

[@slumdogjay]

Talons is number one for me.

[@supacharredmatt6799]

11:42 UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH which scene? Was it the cliffhanger to episode one??

[@rodneyhrvatin9621]

What kind of sick, perverted fans vote to put Underworld that high up???

[@hi-viz]

This is one of those lists where I can pretty much agree with the top 10. It's the ones lower that strike me as odd. I would never have thought Keeper of Traken would be that high, and Nimon would be that low. I feel like Shada's reputation is what gave it it's spot more than anything else.

[@FenrirInFlowers]

The top 10 is something that most fans would pretty much agree with overall. After that personal opinion varies widely, so I think we all find some of those rankings shocking. I think that you underestimate the love for Douglas Adams as a writer when talking about Shada. One of the reasons I love the Shada story so much is how well his humor and wit meshed with Tom Baker's performance. For example, lots of us found the Doctor trying to play dead with the computer to be pure gold. Even with all the humor, the story itself was solid with enjoyable twists. I dig the concept of the Time Lords having a hidden prison planet. There's interesting potential and mythos in that. Great cast in the episode. I love Shada for lots of the same reasons that I love City of Death.

[@willimations277]

So...Deadly Assassin at #7 is a choice. But I suppose the people have spoken

[@Joey15811]

Why is leisure Hive above watchable stories. That one is literally so bad it’s unwatchable!

[@gussyt1761]

Joseph Gillott but we love long opening scene on Brighton Beach

[@Joey15811]

GussyT17 they scene was too long. It dragged out way too long

[@shortangel333]

BUT Episode 1's cliffhanger is the best

[@kimba4962]

What? Leaisure Hive is the best-looking Series 18 serial after Logopolis. It has great direction, some of the best in Tom Baker years.
Episode 1 cliffhanger is also one of the best in Classc Who.
LH has a weak ending, but so does Genesis and no one complaining about that one. It still belongs in top 10 Baker stories.

[@TheKandyman]

Horns of nimon is at least incredibly watchable with the villain out doing TOM BAKER for goodness sake. The leisure hive(from what I remember) was an utter bore....

[@leemarriott7961]

how is keeper of traken not last? how???

[@alexandermcdowall3896]

10:31 oh so I guess no send off at all is better then

[@thejacal2704]

City of Death should be number one, it's just great, and I live in Paris! Genesis is great, too long imo. Zygons is wonderful too. And I love Nimon... Shame, but hey.....

[@BenS-dy9eq]

Meglos is fun, you guys are just mean

[@JoshSnares]

True

[@TheZodiacz]

I will agree it's the best sentient cactus story I've ever seen

[@ShamrockParticle]

Thank Tom for that! :)

[@karkatvantas9557]

Meglos is mind-numbingly dull and stupid.

[@BenS-dy9eq]

Karkat Vantas mmmmm okay then. I will agree it’s pretty stupid, but one of the things I loved about it is how faced paced and entertaining it is compared to most of classic Who