Це відео не доступне.
Перепрошуємо.
Comparing Doctor Who: "Power of the Daleks" - 1966 vs 2016
Вставка
- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- A side-by-side analysis of the original and animation of The Power of the Daleks!
📱 Socials:
⭐Patreon: patreon.com/JoshuaSnares
⭐Twitter: @josh_snares
⭐Instagram: @joshsnares
⭐Facebook: JoshuaSnares/
Doctor Who clips are owned by the BBC, and music licensed from Artlist
Thanks for watching!
Are we going to see more of these comparisons? They’re brilliant!
*WE WILL GET OUR POWER!*
I’m doing all the ones with surviving telesnaps!
That's great news, Josh! I'm sure you will do a great job. Looking forward to the rest.
@@JoshSnares Can we expect an updated version of this one now we have the updated animation?
A three-way comparison, if you will?
The worst thing to me is that the animation leaves the best scene out. That's where the Doctor and companions lie down amongst the dead bodies in the corridor, and pretend to be dead, as a Dalek inspects the bodies for signs of life, its eye stalk going from corpse to corpse, ready to blast away at any movement. Truly terrifying to a seven year old, I can tell you.
RIP Edward Kelsey (who played Resno) 4th June 1930 - 23rd April 2019
He was the marvellous Joe Grundy in the Archers as well.
I legit reckon Singapore has heaps of Who and no one knows where.
Here's hoping. The first one to be found will be The Macra Terror....!
The Daleks's Masterplan 🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞 Fury from the Deep 🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞 Underwater Menace 🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞 Power of the Daleks 🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞 The Moonbase 🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞 Marco Polo 🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞
THE SPACE PIRATES 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
Storm Singapore, they can't stop all of us!
"I Think you'll find milions of children will not be watch doctor who"
The BBC needs to make an animation of Evil Of The Daleks, the final Dalek rebellion battle would be insane to see!
Hopefully that'll be next
And low and behold!
it WAS!
I like the fact that the BBC is doing animated episodes to fill the gaps, but, I wish they would spend a little money and get better quality animation.
This seems, IMHO, to be cheap half measures.
The animation was made to look as if had been drawn back in 1966. Keep it faithful to the series as a whole.
It's especially bad if you consider that an "amateur" animation package like MMD, even in 2016, could have done **FAR** better work than this. OpenToonz was released as open-source (based on the Toonz package) in March 2016. And Toonz is what Studio Ghibli uses for their computer animation. Really, there's NO excuse for such shoddy work.
About the only thing that would look more stilted, clunky and un-lifelike would be the acting, scripting and direction in the latest two seasons of DrWho.
@@SenileOtaku I agree.
There's no excuse for those animated episodes to have been done that badly except not wanting to spend a little money to do it right.
@@Ozzy_2014 I think it was just not wanting to spend the money to do it right.
I don't know if you are familiar with the Johnny Quest cartoon series from the 1960s but that animation is over 50 years old and is MUCH better than what has been pushed on these Dr. Who episodes.
Hey, its better than Web of Fear 3
I saw this story as it was originally broadcast in Australia in 1966. I was living in Newcastle( NSW) at the time and was 5 years old. I did not hide behind the sofa; I hid behind the kitchen door, which was in turn behind the sofa and peered occasionally around the corner despite myself. This story and The Moonbase remain seminal for me in regards to Dr Who. I had seen the final two or three Hartnell stories, including of course the Tenth Planet, but it's these early Troughton stories that are imprinted upon me.
You’re so damn lucky, this is in my top three all time based solely on the animated recon, I will never get to see the original 😢
BBC: I have orders to destroy those master tapes
The fan who Is disguised as an employee: But I am the examiner, I am here to examiner
I've heard a lot of comments on poor animation, but I think they have done a decent job on the majority of animations so far. As someone who isn't interested in reconstructions, this is the only way I will get to see these lost episodes and stories, unless they miraculously find them.
the animation I feel doesn't match the same feel of the surviving clips. They're also pretty choppy. I hope it gets done again one day.
Wish granted
8:52 Don’t worry dude, I like The Underwater Menace as well.
Shame it wasn't animated...I absolutely hate telly snaps lol. I remember me and my brother when children... saying we hoped one day they would animate them or use CGI and it would be like watching the real thing....the second idea hasn't happened yet but we are getting there lol.
Mark Lyne Originally, Planet 55 wanted to animate The Underwater Menace, but they didn't have the budget, so they just simply made a very low-quality Tele-snap recon.
Vincinel the Seventh warrior I already know that.
I love underwater menace
Brandon Tyler NOTHING IN THE WORLD CAN STOP ME NOW!
Even back in the Troughton era people complained about changes and made cocksure claims that it would result in the end of the show, yet the show is still incredibly successfull. The more things change the more they stay the same, am I right?
This is why I don't take anyone who says that Chris Chibnall (and Jodie Whitakers doctor) will be 'the death of doctor who' seriously.
But Chibnall really IS a crap writer. With his writing, Jodie Whitaker didn't stand a chance.
@@schragemusik bro this comment is 3 years old, I didn't even remember the video
But also still disagree, all the writers have strengths and weaknesses, some are gonna appeal to others more or less. But you do you
Love the videos! Just a slight correction about the 35mm film. Although episodes like Power 6, Wheel 6, and Space Pirates 2 were recorded to that format, they were still 625 line SD signals from the cameras, just using a different storage medium from tape. So none of them can be represented in HD. But for the ones that survive, at least they are master recordings, and not telerecordings where 16mm cameras were pointed at TV screens, like the other surviving 60's episodes.
Still cruel that Power 6 is not among the survivors, of course.
Surely even worse quality than that, given they were still using 405 lines at that time
@@benschreckermusic9072 You're right of course. Of the examples I gave, Power was 405 lines and the other two were after the switch to 625.
Would be better if the animation wasn't so stiff. I too wish the BBC didn't go with 100% videotape.
Yeah, imagine if Warner Bros animated it.
@@leemoser2446 Or an anime studio.
@@Ennis85 No.
Reinhard von Lohengramm why?
@@AB-xj3rc Anime just doesn't fit with Dr. Who's style, especially classic Who. I say this as someone who watches anime on a regular basis.
Some of the ideas from the draft scripts sound really interesting in particular the reference to Susan would've been cool, and don't worry you're not the only one who likes The Underwater Menace, hopefully one day the missing episodes from that will be found or at the very least we'll get a proper animation of them. Great video as always dude.
I took my family to watch Power of the Daleks in the cinema - they had a one-off showing that I managed to get tickets to. Apropos of nothing, back in the late 90's, I was friends with a fellow Aussie who did classic DW reconstructions under the name Change of Identity (taken, of course, from the episode of the same name in The Reign of Terror). He did excellent reconstructions and I still have VHS copies of The Savages, The Power of the Daleks, The Moonbase and The Enemy of the World. Ironically, the missing five episodes of The Enemy of the World was discovered intact in a television relay station storage room in Nigeria, so the reconstruction is now rendered moot, but it's still an interesting watch. He did very thorough work, so all the clips from Power are included in his reconstruction. I've often wondered if there was a way to transfer VHS to digital, but I've tried several different ways without success. :-(
You might be able to use a capture card?
@@JackWolf10 I'll have to google that. Thanks!
THE MOONBASE!!!!! IT'S THE BEST CYBERMAN STORY AND DESERVES PRAISE
I second that
I haven't seen The Moonbase yet, but so far I think The Tenth Planet is the best Cyberman story in my opinion.
BobaTennant Love The Moonbase but The Invasion is my favourite.
Thanks Josh,
I was having a genuinely crappy, CRAPPY day today at work, then, on a quick break, I checked my UA-cam subs and saw this!! Thanks; some of my favourite things; Doctor Who, Daleks and your great vids. You are on peak form with this one, you genuinely made me laugh.
Thanks, Jon.
I remember watching this animation for the first time and thinking: "The Daleks eye zooming in like that is so unrealistic. They would never have done that in the orginal" and then seeing that the real footage is even better and creepier made fall in love with 60s Doctor Who even more.
And another thing! Would be cool if you would discuss The invasion animation and its history (and maybe why it took them 6 years to do another) or the Ice Warriors and maybe have a rant about how bad it is!
The Ice Warriors animation gets Victoria's facial emotions right in my opinion.
Shame after they tried to get rid of the Daleks in Evil, they basically when with the simplified stalk design .. miss that old zoom and resize thing as if they’re staring a judging..at least NuWho had brought it back somewhat
Love this story as the Daleks come across so cold and calculating compared too the Daleks in later stories and defo in NuWho. lol
Yeah daleks were prob at their best in this or evil
They're pretty cold and calculating in Series 1, but afterwards lose a lot of their scheming and menace.
another brilliant, professional video, well done Josh.
Will there be a triple comparison after the Special Edition is released?
I hope so
Yet another great review Josh !! 😊I love how close this is to the telesnaps !! And it’s a great story ! Shame it no longer exists in the BBC archives 😢😢
I find it interesting that even in the 60's people moaned about the Doctor changing.
As for what I want to see compared next? What if you compared The Ice Warriors 2 & 3 to their reconstructed counterparts?
This.
i love that you look at things going on in the era when these episodes aired - there is so much lost in time!!
Needed something to talk about for 14 minutes! 😂😂
I love how you add humor, it’s very important ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I love your videos
Screw 'storm area 51', let's storm Singapore and take back the missing episodes that are rightfully ours!
Singapore No Longer Has Those Dr Who Episodes Sadly, Either They were Junked Or More Likely Sent To Other Countries.
I give the animation team credit they did fantastic job doing all this job, The Daleks are of course the best part, They got the movement of the Daleks right.
The Colorization Channel That’s way worse.
This animation is COMPLETE CRAP.
joseph abrams Are you talking about this?
@@SegaNintendoGuy64 yes I am. This animation is complete crap. The animation is not smooth and seamless. It looks like a group of high schoolers got together and did this for a project.
Completely agree with Joseph. The animation is something someone could whip up in Flash in a couple of weeks. It's pure garbage.
Fantastic video as always. I wish I had a large enough disposable income to hire a translator and head to Singapore to see if I can dig anything up. Recovering all the lost episodes of Broomstick Cottage is my proudest media preservation moment, but man, what an achievement finding some lost Who would be...
I always thought that the additional faces in the Brain of Morbius were just Morbius’ prior regenerations. I never saw it any other way!
So the “something else more terrible - something I can only half remember” is a stand-in for the whole, I’m not sure if they destroyed my home planet or not cos me and Susan ran away line. It’s kinda funky to think that some prominent Who writers were already figuring the Daleks into the grander mythos of the show and sort of revising the fact that he seems to meet them for the first time in The Daleks.
Anyways that little comment about the absolute CLOWNERY, TOMFOOLERY AND RIGGOURY (sp?) of Pat Troughton could well be a quote from some UA-cam rantsona today 😅 it’d do well with the algorithm!! Great video as always
Another great video.. I'd love to see The Tenth Planet next please.. I quite like Power of the Daleks and I've seen at least seven different recons of it including this animation. (COI, Loose Cannon, Richard Devlyn, Richard Landen, David Spornoff, 2xBBC versions).
😊 Ah, Patrick Troughton is my Fave! Also his was the first Doctor I ever watched.
All the way back to that summer night in 2001
It always bothered me how Troughton is blatantly wearing different clothes from moment he regenerated, with Hartnell's cape just thrown on over the top.
New Regeneration: Are you sick of regenerating and wearing your previous self’s tasteless clothes? That will never be a problem again with Regeneration v2! (coming to a store near you)
That actually brings up another point from Time of the Doctor.
Regeneration energy can blow up a Dalek ship, but doesn’t damage cotton. 🤷♂️
tconlon251
Donna: it’s you
10: oh yes
Donna: you’re naked
10; ohh yess
@@BH-98 Ah, back when the show used to be a fun adventure each week.
@@lesigh1749 You mean every four or six weeks (usually)?
I love love love The Power of the Daleks, it's such s cracking story and probably the best of the Dalek stories. 👍😎
As you brought it up in this one, The Invasion would be pretty good to do next. The Cosgrove Hall situation etc.
Thanks for putting so much effort into these, Josh
Telesnaps don’t exist for The Invasion!
@@JoshSnares Aagh, you're right. Shame.
Yet again brilliant!
Episode 1 0:00
Episode 2 2:56
Episode 3 5:31
Episode 4 7:40
Episode 5 9:48
Episode 6 12:29
Thank you!
I always loved the daleks going through the corridor so scary
I hope you'll do more of the comparing videos and I hope in the future they're will be Evil Of The Daleks
10:17 It's both brilliant and silly that the animation went to the trouble of recreating the cameraman tripping up.
12:30 Unfortunately though, it was recorded onto film from the video cameras' output, so it would be true HD footage of an SD monitor playing the episode. It would still look and sound much better than the majority of the 60s episodes.
Another great thing about the animation was hearing those dalek chants from episode 5/6 in 5.1!
Episode 6 was actually on 35mm film. The first 625-line episodes. The videotape cameras were still 405-line. And they still were until they made The Enemy of the World where all episodes of that story are 625-line videotape.
mrchips2301 It seems that the 'Daleks, conquer and destroy chant' is different from the original version. In the original, Peter Hawkins recorded the line twice and it was relentlessly overlayed, but in this version, it seems that the same recording has been used over again.
9:03 not ignoring it anymore
This is now one of my favorites
Hi All. Could someone explain what 'telesnaps' are and what purpose they served?..many thanks!!
I explain it in my Missing Episodes series, in the first part. Scroll through and look for “John Cura”
Again well done
Anyone else notice a character magically appear at 1:42?
I mean Power of the Daleks is pretty damn amazing
This is my favorite second doctor who story
It did air on BBC America in black and white
Excellent as always! Could you also do the colour version?
Will you do a new comparison video for the new animation?
The first 2nd Doctor story I saw as a child was the old VHS Unedited "Movie" of "The Seeds of Death." It only had the opening theme on episode 1 and the closing credits on episode 6. I remember when they stopped doing this and panicked when they did it in episodes. I thought I only had 2 episodes on a VHS. days before internet lol......good times. My fav Doctors are 2nd, 6th (earliest memories is the final season of 5th) grew up with 6th. And of course the only man who IS the Doctor...Jon Pertwee!!! he has a song to say so lol.
"I am the Doctor!"
Great video as always! I think you should compare The moonbase next.
It’s coming!
Thank you!
:All of the daleks WE WILL GET OUR POWER WE WILL GET OUR POWER
Do you think you can do a comparison of fury from the deep and the faceless ones animations any time soon
I kinda wish they did some sort of hybrid episodes with both animation and the recovered 8mm/16mm clips. Just to fill in the blanks.
Kinda like what they is with The Animated Shada.
Problem is with Shada we had full scenes so the jumps between animation and live action would only occur at the end of a scene. With the power of the Daleks on the other hand, we only have random snippets of footage from the scenes so the jumps between animation and live action would occur in the middle of scenes and probably feel a lot more jarring
great video
I love the underwater menace too!
i just realised that i am not subscribed. i don't know how i never realised that
+1sub
Would be interesting to compare this to the new version that’s coming out
This animation is good! I'd say it'd be a 9/10, I don't really like how they widened the screen to 16:9, it doesn't match with some of the other episodes, like if you're watching the show and it's 4:3, then it's all of a sudden 16:9. Also I didn't expect how at 1:07 the animated doctor matched with the background doctors legs lol😂.
8:31
the Underwater Menace? I could've sworn I remember a certain group of Pirates from Space...
Ooh, contraversial..
The Jacal Indeed. Although I can take the fact that they made The Space Pirates as a huge budget saver for The War Games, the only things that save it are the main villain only being represented through production stills, random things here and there in the serial, Milo Clancy (I wasn't joking when I said that), and the paring of The Doctor, Jamie, and Zoe. Other than that, it's not that interesting, and is litterally my least favorite missing serial.
I laughed when you said OKAI!
Great comparison here
What was blue peter, I heard of it a lot, but does not know what it is
Children’s television show
i enjoyed the fact, that you know what you're talking about, for a change here.
Do you plan to do a comparison vid for Faceless Ones and Fury from the Deep!?
The first time I saw well here this episode was the full audio CD with descriptions which listening to it at night had a very creepy feel to the story the animated story was good
I personally don't really like the animation, I watched the power of the Daleks the other day and opted out of watching the official release and instead watched the loose cannon version. It is a brilliant story but something I noticed is that much like the myth makers there is an 8mm clip of the Doctor saying "are you coming or are you not?" And he puts a hat on his head but this is not from the first scene in the TARDIS it's actually from later in the Mercury swamps because you can tell from the background, I think he actually says "come on you two"
Also great video by the way!
Would you ever consider doing some missing episode videos in the style of your missing episode series but this time you look at episodes like enemy of the world or tomb of the cybermen, ones that were missing for a while but were eventually recovered? I suppose it might not work as well...
Another 8mm clip was wrongly identified too. A The Myth Makers Death of a Spy clip was identified as part of the slitting throats censor clip in Episode 2 Small Prophet, Quick Return. We only have a partial clip of that.
I don't think any censor clips exist of The Myth Makers but I have read into a misplaced clip of the myth makers...
No 16mm ones anyway. The 8mm clips captured part of the clip that was cut in Australia or New Zealand.
No, 8mm clips were recorded by fans off the TV screen, Australian censor cuts were 16mm film.
Did you not understand what I said? The fans who recorded Myth Makers captured the scene that Australian censored had cut from their film.
Watching this, I'm wondering if the daleks would be edible. Been toying around with the idea of Sixie taking in an androgum tween who acts like a typical kawaii little girl, but she loves to eat, has no concept of danger (and is a danger to herself and others) and she thinks daleks might be tasty. Been imagining her cracking open a dalek while yelling "Cream filling! Cream filling!" without any guile at all, and then taking out the tentacled thing and whacking it over and over with a rock - while it's still alive... all as if she's struggling to open a jar.
If you could go back in time to the 60s and save 5 stories in there entirety (any 5 stories does not have too be in one season)
Mine are Evil Of The Daleks, Power Of The Daleks, Toymaker, dalek masterplan and The Tenth planet
I own the color version and despite the fact i enjoyed the story, I wish it was in black and white. More atmospheric
But the releases came in black and white and colour? I’m so confused 😂
Just lower the saturation or colour settings on your TV for black and white!
@@JoshSnares i know but the only thing i could find at jb hi fi was the colour version and i couldn't be bothered to wait to find the black and white at the time
It should be a two disc release, one DVD has black and white, and the other DVD has colour.
There's another small nuance, in regard to variant edits of the animation, in that a movie version was produced for theatrical release. That's version I first saw; I kept waiting for the first cliffhanger, and thinking, wait, shouldn't it be _there_? No? Maybe I was misremembering?
I remember going to the BBC Shop to buy the cassette tapes of this one. I was on a, get everything Dalek I could binge. Apart from Tom I couldn’t make head nor tail of what was going on. To my ears the sound was really bad. I had to keep stopping and rewinding to listen to bits again and again. It’s a miracle the tapes didn’t get eaten by the machine 😁
Wher is this animation I can't find it
on blu ray and dvd
now we need a 1966-2016-2020
Seeing those blurry clips and tele-snaps, it brings it all back to me. I was lucky enough to watch The Power of the Daleks when it aired live in 1966. (I was aged 5). I can actually recall a few moments - especially the first regeneration of the Doctor. The animations look OK. But for me, alas, (having seen the original), I don't think I'd ever be able to watch the animated version. It's just not the same! I hope they find the real thing one day.
Great video:) Can you compare "The Invasion" next please?
The Invasion doesn’t have telesnaps!
Have you compared the Invasion yet? I feel like that would be a good one to look at, since it was the first one to be animated
Invasion doesn’t have telesnaps
This serial is the one serial that I'd love to return. It is the pinnacle of Classic Who!
I really appreciate that we are getting all of these old stories animated. I really do. And I try to be kind about the animations, but it's frustrating that the issue with the animation quality is just little things letting it down. So much of it is really good, they put heaps of effort into things like backgrounds, but so little care seems to be put into things like walk cycles. I get that they need to cut corners somewhere but they cut corners in the wrong places. It's a real shame honestly.
Can't wait to see the Special edition with improved animation
Though I greatly enjoyed the animation, you do highlight some of the issues with the first episode -, particularly around the inconsistencies withTroughton's animated rendering. Clearly, attempts were made to closely match the post-regeneration depiction of the actor with the 8mm film, but it just ends up jarring with the rendering used for the remainder of the serial. Character movements are also at their weakest here and that's not even mentioning the clothing error. Hopefully, this particular episode will be tidied up a bit for the inevitable Season 4 Bluray boxset.
Would have liked to have had a mention of some of the different *versions* of this animated feature. There were some animation and character model differences between the aired US/UK versions and the later home video releases. It was annoying, I think the more final fixed versions *weren't* the one released on home video.
Wait.... the BBC actually fixed something for their home-media release?
The reverse from what I remember. It's actually messed up. One of the mistakes is Ben and Polly in the wrong clothes in a scene. BBCAmerica.com had two versions available on demand through their website: the black and white and the color version. Sometime after they had those online, BBC America aired yet *another* color version of the serial. That version had them in the correct clothing in that scene. From what I understand, the home video release may still have the mistake, at least in one of the versions of it (The black and white?). You can see a screencap of the two ondemand versions and the second later color version they aired. imgur.com/83bc7MG
@@AH-yn6ip The UK DVD/Blu-ray has the error on the black and white version and the corrected shot on the colour version. Reportedly they fixed the VoD versions after the original release.
I think it would be interesting to compare The Reign of Terror animation to the reconstruction, as I always thought The Reign of Terror's animation was the worst of the animated episodes due to so many awkward jump cuts.
One of my all time favourite Daley stories.
Interesting video. I know it would be asking a lot but it would be nice to have a consistent animated version of Polly. This one is not too bad but the version in Macra Terror is nothing like her facially.
I have this one on blue ray it’s really good if u enjoy classic who if u like new who u might get bored
Can you discuss part one of The Invasion? I am curious as to why Wendy Padbury is wearing the wrong costume in this episode. I often wonder if it was a genuine mistake, yet there is plenty of supporting material (not least) from the extant episodes to have got this correct.
The animation with the Daleks are pretty good, but the human part reminds me too much of the Archer cartoon series where I'd be expecting Pam Poovey to make an appearance.
Quality content, 1000 reznos out of ten
I love the video tape look! - film isn’t the be all and end all 😂
i would like to see a comparing of the reign of terror or the ice warriors
Reign of Terror doesn’t have telesnaps, but I’ll be doing Ice Warriors!
Would your disappearing DVD joke constitute a "Lost, Lost Episode?" :-)I thought that Robert James was superb as Lesterson. So blinded by what he is doing that he fails to see just how dangerous the Daleks are. Watching him descend into madness is chilling and it is just so appropriate that his final line is "I am your servant"...Great analysis as always!
Robert James gives an equally unnerving performance as Ven Glynd in the first episode of Blake's 7.
He had a great skill in bringing his characters very close to the edge, didn't he? A very underrated actor.
I feel like we were spoilt by Macra Terror
It was finally getting to look like a proper animation, and then... 8 don't even know what happened, but faceless ones felt like a huge step back
Hello josh there is a recently discovered episode I think you should cover. In planet giants, there was ment too be a fourth part it was spliced together with clips from episode 3. The unused print was recently discovered you can find out more about it if you go on the lost media wiki and search "Doctor who" in the search bar you will find an article about it
Not gonna lie, I appreciate the amount of effort put into these animated reconstructions and I love your comparison videos but....I kind of prefer the loose canon reconstructions.
The quality of the sound in these 60s stories is poor compared to later episodes, and it becomes jarring to watch the high quality animation over the audio from the episodes- they just don't synch in my mind. Not to mention as great as the animation is it always looks a bit stilted to me (the one exception of this being the recent Macra Terror release). I appreciate the work and Im glad they're doing this since other fans love them but I do still prefer the telesnaps.
With that said I'd LOVE a fully animated version of Marco Polo or Fury From the Deep.
There were gonna show previous incarnations, they ignored it and did it in the brain of Morbius which people ignored but in 2020...
From what I saw in the first 2 minutes the animation was so true to the telesnaps. I might understand the need to be economical in the animation, eliminating the closeups would lesson the limited animation short comings, however, from the Loose Canon reconstruction of what does survive of the original live action clips should have been preserved, my humble opinion. A small criticism, however.